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Wikipedia Closes Wii, PS3, Sony Entries

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the stop-fighting-live-together-it'll-all-be-over-soon dept.

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GameSpot reports that Wikipedia has closed the next-gen console entries because of nigh-onto constant defacement from angry fanbois. From the article: "Last week the complete Nintendo company page was replaced with the phrase "Nintendo Sucks!!!!!!!!!" briefly before the Web site reloaded the original entry. Previous vandalism efforts include someone doodling on a Hitler moustache and horns on the photograph for the entry for Bill Gates, and the sentence "Microsoft is Zomg T3h Suck0r!!!!!!" briefly replacing the computer software company's page. All of the next-generation consoles make it into the company's top 40 list of most revised pages, with the Nintendo Wii at number 10 (12,780 revisions), the PS3 at number 21 (9,894 revisions), and the Xbox 360 at 25 (9,481 revisions.) Interestingly, the Wii seems to attract more conflicts of opinion on the site than the subjects of Scientology (8,475 revisions), God (7,537 revisions), and even Britney Spears (9,886 revisions.)"

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The lesson to be learned (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843372)

Never underestimate the voracity of fanbois.

Re:The lesson to be learned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844084)

The population of fanbois has tripled in the last 6 months--fact!

Re:The lesson to be learned (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844150)

How fitting that you included a piece of vandalism that was quickly fixed, showing how Wikipedia works.

Re:The lesson to be learned (1)

angrykeyboarder (791722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849056)

Yeah, but as I fan of "Wikiality", I still found it amusing.

Re:The lesson to be learned (2, Insightful)

Tweekster (949766) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846946)

you mispelled "idiots"

Re:The lesson to be learned (2, Interesting)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848414)

I like the idea of treating people who editorially vandalize (or just edit-while-stupid) categories such "God" also being considered "fanbois." I guess we can consider "fanbois" as a secular, popular-culture version of a Jihadist.

GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16843388)

GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia
Zeikfried - Associated Press, Nigeria

In a week which shall be recorded in Wikipedia infamy (and then vandalized and redirected to clitoris), the oft persecuted and never defeated internet missionaries of the Gay Nigger Association of America [www.gnaa.us] struck yet another powerful and telling blow against the powerful forces of bigotry and racism. Most notably, the growing zionist community on renowned internet pissing yard wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] .

And the records have indeed tumbled, with an unheard of third successful survival from the digital shitheap that is "Votes For Deletion" [wikipedia.org] . Coming in spite a heinous act of self promotion and cyber terrorism by Pat Gunn/Improv [dachte.org] (formerly known as Aharon Meshenstein prior to his infiltration of the United States), who listed and inspired mob vandalism upon the GNAA's entry [wikipedia.org] .

Fresh from his promotion of Wikipedia's $50,000 fundraiser for arms and supplies to the Jewish state of Israel, Improv launched a series of unprovoked and slanderous attacks against the well loved organisations leadership, all the while using foul and unholy necromancies to enlist the dead themselves to vote the entries deletion. Names such as "Wolfman" and "Demonslave" only adding to the damning list of evidence linking Mr Gunn to the occult.

Though Improv's actions gained him a small majority, a shock last minute intervention from Pope John Paul II spared the pages untimely fate, although as yet unconfirmed reports have indicated that several hundred 8-year old negro children were driven to the Basilica to secure the pontiffs support. Others point towards the black curse cast upon the deletion campaign by the support of infamous Brawl Hall mouthpiece "Yoyo [brawl-hall.com] " as the main driving force behind the salvation of the aforementioned entry.

But the details are likely to cause few sleepless nights among the group, only one of whom was willing to speak to the press. Namely GNAA Wikipedia contributor Popeye, who interrupted his drawing of pornography to give a brief dismissal the controversy: "Even with Improv's shady dealings, the sheer size and girth of a swollen GNAA phallus enables it both an identity and a vote of it's own. Making such discussion moot".

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Re:GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844348)

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Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16843456)

Wikipedia is Zomg T3h Suck0r!!!!!!

I can see why they reverted it. (5, Funny)

CaseyG (97275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843460)

The editor misspelled "Suxx0rz".

  -c.

Re:I can see why they reverted it. (2, Funny)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846792)

That's the beauty of Wikipedia. You can edit it and write "Suxx0rz" correctly.

Re:I can see why they reverted it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16848774)

And you misspelled 'Teh'

Re:I can see why they reverted it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16851778)

What?! I always use "sux0r"! Clearly I am right because I am me! I challenge yuo to a revert/edit war!!11

This is scary... (3, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843466)

Interestingly, the Wii seems to attract more conflicts of opinion on the site than the subjects of Scientology (8,475 revisions), God (7,537 revisions), and even Britney Spears (9,886 revisions.)

I think I know what console the tabloid writers are going to get.

News? (4, Informative)

interiot (50685) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843482)

I'm not sure how this is news. Anonymous and very new users can't edit the entries, but all accounts older than 4 days can, so the articles are still updated almost as fast as before. And numerous pages [wikipedia.org] are semi-protected every day as vandalism flares up and dies down. Judging by semi-protection only, the consoles aren't any worse off than Lucille Ball, Tundra, or Michelangelo...

Re:News? (2, Funny)

Snowmit (704081) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846172)

It's news because certain Wikipedia articles are STILL getting vandalized despite the fact that Wikipedia vandalism was solved [everytopic...ickens.com] .

Re:News? (1)

marshallbanana6 (992780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848758)

Ryan North is my hero.

Re:News? (4, Insightful)

Swanktastic (109747) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846224)

I found it interesting that the Wii was 10th on the most edited list. I suppose the "newsworthiness" of this is not the fact that vandalism is happening- period. The interesting fact is the magnitude of the vandalism.

I wouldn't find it interesting that a subway car got spray-painted. I would find it interesting that all the subway cars in NYC got vandalized overnight.

Re:News? (5, Informative)

Mitaphane (96828) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846744)

It isn't news. First, it's inaccurate; the article talks as if the PS3 and Wii articles are locked away from any editing at all. For some reason journalists still can't get their facts straight when it comes to the two kinds of page protections(protecting and semi-protecting) Wikipedia has. Second, this isn't an event of any significance as it happens all the time; Wikipedia often protects [wikipedia.org] and semi-protects [wikipedia.org] articles that are on controversial topics, topics covered heavily in news media, or topics that draw a huge number edits from random users.

Re:News? (1)

angrykeyboarder (791722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849088)

It isn't news
If the Zonk [slashdot.org] ster says it's news, then by golly, it's news!

Old news (1)

the linux geek (799780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843514)

It's been like this for some weeks now, the PS3 for longer then Wii.

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845592)

The fact that it's been like this for weeks IS the news.

Re:Old news (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845940)

The fact that it's been like this for weeks IS the news.

Can you provide any evidence to support this entry?

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846270)

Dude, I don't want to hear about how long your Wii is. Oh...wait...I see. Never mind.

You just know ... (5, Funny)

KSobby (833882) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843534)

That those idiots went bragging to their friends that they hacked a site.

See? (5, Funny)

aarku (151823) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843558)

This is concrete proof that the Enyclopedia Brittanica is superior. They have exactly zero [britannica.com] revisions to their Wii page! No vandalism in sight. They really have their [britannica.com] priorities [britannica.com] straight [britannica.com] .

Re:See? (3, Interesting)

theantipop (803016) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844066)

I was going to point out that Britannica also lacks rules for calling shotgun [wikipedia.org] , but even more shocking is that the results page for the same search on Britannica [britannica.com] returns more Google ads than articles.

Re:See? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844990)

But neither of them have articles on the George bush themepark [uncyclopedia.org] or the McHaggis clan [uncyclopedia.org] .

Re:See? (1, Funny)

Trogre (513942) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846074)

Americans are funny things. Apparently apart from the obvious firearm reference, Shotgun means "riding in the front passenger seat"? Well, okay...

Then again Americans also call Arkansas "Arkensaw" and solder "sodder", and about half of them seem to pronounce the Internet as "Ennernat".

Re:See? (4, Informative)

crotherm (160925) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846740)


Americans are funny things. Apparently apart from the obvious firearm reference, Shotgun means "riding in the front passenger seat"? Well, okay...


It is a reference to the guy sitting next to the stage coach driver. That guy carried a shotgun to ward off bad guys. Hence the term.

Re:See? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16851576)

All physical movements in the US are related to each other verbally with different firearms. The phrase "what a splendid view from the window" is "let's go sniping", "let's stroll through the park" is translated as "i've got my .38, let's go", etc.

Re:See? (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847232)

I've never heard that pronunciation of Internet, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear it in the South. As for shotgun, it refers to the frontier days when the front of a horse drawn stage coach always had a driver (holding the reigns of the horses) and a passenger with a shotgun (shotgun for protection from would-be robbers). This came to be referred to as riding shotgun, and the name stuck even after the passenger stopped carrying a shotgun and the vehicle switched to horseless carriages then to automobiles.

Re:See? (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847868)

Then again Americans also call Arkansas "Arkensaw" and solder "sodder", and about half of them seem to pronounce the Internet as "Ennernat".

You don't even want to know how we pronounce Gruene, Texas or Natchitoches, Louisiana. Or which Elgin in Illinois, Oklahoma, or Texas are pronounced with a hard G or a soft G.

Re:See? (0, Offtopic)

246o1 (914193) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849054)

Language trolls are small-minded idiots.

"XXXX people are funny things. Apparently there's a set of complex rules of pronunciation which are occasionally violated, God only knows how they know what they're saying to each other!"

Whatever country you are from, whatever language you speak, there will be things you say that other native speakers would say differently. In English the semi-regularity of our spelling leads some people to insist that the members of a certain group (Americans, Southerners, Welsh, Bostonians, Kiwis, blacks, whatever) don't know how to speak.

Of course, no Brits ever say "Isn't it stupid how we pronounce Worcester?" and few Ivy Leaguers from the northeast say "Ain't our taboos about completely intelligible double negatives and the word 'ain't' pretty stupid?"

Sorry for the little rant (not that /. isn't full of similar), but I was trained as a linguist and find this kind of thing sets me off now and then.

Re:See? (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844626)

Love their Scientology page, about as accurate description you can possibly give that wouldn't lead to being sued (ie not descriptive at ALL). Hell it didn't even bother to mention that Dianetics was intended to be SciFi.

Needs citation (1)

Strolls (641018) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846248)

Love their Scientology page... it didn't even bother to mention that Dianetics was intended to be SciFi.
The day I have points, and I can't find the "needs citation" moderation option.

Stroller.

Re:Needs citation (0, Offtopic)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847538)

Hell if you could prove it the church of scientology wouldn't exist at all. The book of Dianetics talks endlessly about "Scientology" and yet Hubbard wasn't initially a member nor did he belong to the church for a long time. He wrote it as some sorta crossover novel its intention was to be a "self-help" book for some alien species. It was never intended to be factual. But he thought it would be awfully clever to market it as a real book. He stupidly assumed people would understand it wasn't real.

But no I can't find anything to back it up, just what I was told by some people who lived around clearwater, fl (scientology headquarters) who wern't scientologist.

Re:Needs citation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16849434)

LRH was well known for making crap up. Anyhow, upper-level Scientologists get increasingly cut-off from anyone outside Scientology, so they have almost nowhere else to turn. Even if you could prove that they're wrong, well... Let's just say that when you can only get up to the leadership levels with the "psychic powers" the higher OT levels are supposed to get you, the leaders are either liars, deluded, some mix of both, or they flee the "church" even though they have nowhere to go...

The reason the higher teachings are supposedly "dangerous" is because if people knew how ridiculous the high OT levels were, they'd never get into it to begin with, but after they're cut-off from everyone they knew and are stuck on, say, those Sea Org ships... Of course, the teachings are flexible enough that they probably just rewrite them every time they leak so that they can "prove" that the ones out on the Internet are frauds or whatever.

As for citations, xenu.net has more concerning them than you probably want to know, as does Wikipedia, etc.

Re:Needs citation (1)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847570)

Hubbard initally brought up the theory in a magazine titled Astounding Science Fiction. I am not sure what he said in that article but... not exactly a mental health magazine, it is?

As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843576)

I'm really disappointed that they didn't lock down the Sega and Dreamcast entries too. We're still cool, right? Anyone? Anyone?

-Eric

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (4, Funny)

Mad Merlin (837387) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844078)

They didn't lock down the Sega or Dreamcast articles because the Dreamcast is so many orders of magnitude better than all of the other consoles, it's not even worth attempting to dispute. Even trolls are smarter than that, clearly.

The PS3, Wii, and Xbox 360 (listed alphabetically) on the other hand are all pretty close, so there's plenty of argument to be had there.

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (1)

techpawn (969834) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844092)

Dreamcast WAS made by Sega...

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846392)

Dreamcast WAS made by Sega...

And? What didn't you understand? The PS3 is made by Sony and they get both articles locked anyways.

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (1)

techpawn (969834) | more than 7 years ago | (#16858142)

I concede the point

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844142)

Sometimes I put my Dreamcast back in its box, seal it up, and then open it again to get the same feeling I had on launch day. Long live the Dreamcast!

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844424)

I wasn't sure whether to mod you informative, funny, or insightful. Sadly, there is no option for "rock on, brother!"

Re:As the internet's last Sega fanboy... (2, Funny)

Eternauta3k (680157) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845264)

I wasn't sure whether to mod you informative, funny, or insightful. Sadly, there is no option for "rock on, brother!"
Those who can't mod, post.

Yes, but Slashdot is so much better (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Crowhead (577505) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843720)

1 in 3 stories by Zonk boil down to:

OMG Sony is teh suxors! (the rest seem to be usless top ten lists these days)

1 in 4 Slashdot stories boil down to:

OMG Micro$oft is teh suxors

or

OMG GW is teh suxors

Re:Yes, but Slashdot is so much better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846030)

Zonk gets a lot of things wrong. And yet you have succeeded in pointing out three things he got right. Rock on, Crowhead. Rock on.

What the? (2, Interesting)

keyne9 (567528) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843760)

"Vandals strike various Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia administrators act to prevent vandalism. Slashdot news at 11!"

Seriously. How the hell is this newsworthy? Random vandalism/reverts/locks are a fact of WP, and are far from anything important or new.

Re:What the? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844004)

How the hell is this newsworthy?

I think it was because Zonk was outraged at the thought of someone doodling on a picture of Bill Gates [slashdot.org] . Who would do something like that?

Misleading headline (2, Insightful)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843804)

They semi-protected three articles. This happens all the time, why the fuck is it on Slashdot?

To quote Digitiser.. (2, Insightful)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843808)

.. albeit in reference to Amiga Zealots... "Why are you so insecure? Anyone would think we'd dissed your girlfriend... Oh, now we understand!"

I mean, honestly - why the hell do people think consoles need their loyalty? The companies behind them are out to make cash, which is what corporations do. They have their own marketing budget, people paid loads of cash to sell games and consoles and so forth. And before anyone mentions 'viral marketing', this kind of crap would only serve to put me off buying a console.

Re:To quote Digitiser.. (4, Insightful)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845230)

Well, there is the usual adolescent desire for everyone to be the same. They'll pick on queers, blacks, nerds, tall people, short people, etc. ad nauseum.

However, there may be a bit of rationality behind it. I remember making fun of atari 400 and sinclair 1000 owners because they didn't have a real keyboard, TI owners for paying too much, and every time I'd meet a fellow commodore owner I'd get all exited and start trading programs. It felt good to find someone else who'd made the same decision that I did, and it had a payoff in terms of being able to trade experiences, techniques, and programs.

It is possible that this kind of behavior makes sense in a way. After all, if everyone owned a Wii there'd be more games for it.

I'll never understand it now that I'm not a kid anymore. I'll also never understand getting in a fight with someone over their religion, country, favorite team, etc., but it happens every day.

Re:To quote Digitiser.. (2, Insightful)

illumin8 (148082) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848086)

Well, there is the usual adolescent desire for everyone to be the same.
Adolescent desire? It's called human nature and it affects people of all ages. But yes, it is pretty childish when you think about it.

Re:To quote Digitiser.. (4, Insightful)

HeavenlyBankAcct (1024233) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845624)

I mean, honestly - why the hell do people think consoles need their loyalty? The companies behind them are out to make cash, which is what corporations do. They have their own marketing budget, people paid loads of cash to sell games and consoles and so forth. And before anyone mentions 'viral marketing', this kind of crap would only serve to put me off buying a console.

For the most part, here, you're referring to a group of people here who have great amounts of their personal identity onto their purchase of, and allegiance to, a particular product. This isn't anything new -- or relegated to gamers -- think of the grown men you know who would actively define themselves by their brand of truck. I think that when people are in a situation where they feel that they have no ability to carve out their own indentity -- be it feelings of impotence or just a general lack of creativity -- they will turn to external means to establish who and what they are in the eyes of others.

Quite simply, like any other group which defines shared identity as a similar product choice, or belief in a shared ideology, gamer fanbois are, at the root, confused individuals who are searching for a sense of belonging. There's a large population of the "gamer" population that's, quite frankly, socially awkward. Evangelizing a game system (or a brand of PC, or a genre of music, etc) gives these people an easy way to feel a "connection" with a social group that doesn't require any alteration in the way that they deal with the world or interact with other human beings.

When I was a teenager, I was really into hardcore music for the same reason. My skills of actually holding a conversation were fairly limited, but I knew that I could hang out with my "hardcore friends" or log onto a message board and 'communicate' in the way which I was comfortable. This in and of itself is fairly harmless, but the insular nature of these sort of 'product cliques' will almost always eventually turn to "us against them" codifications as the individuals within the group struggle to establish their own socially hierarchy. In my days as an elitist asshole, it was the 'corporate drones' who would 'actually buy this mass-produced music' that were the de facto topics of my rage. For these kids it's the 'idiots' who would 'actually buy [system].' It's the same motivation in both cases -- a desire for acceptance, at its root.

It diminishes the network effects (2, Insightful)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846606)

Other platforms decrease the amount of games available by taking developer mindshare, and introduces the risk that your chosen platform might become unprofitable and discontinued. So, in a very real sense, each platform decreases the value of all the other platforms. Once you choose one, it is in your interests to promote it.

So Sad (5, Insightful)

Chimp_On_Stilts (805726) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843954)

I find it disheartening that young gamers feel the need to find a single console and lock onto it with a religious fervor. We're all gamers, we all enjoy the same hobby, but a large part of the community spends its time decrying everyone else.

The only reason I can think of that this happens, immaturity aside, is that young gamers must rely on their parents to buy consoles and their parents probably limit them to one console of choice because of price. This may give the kid a need to prove to himself and others that he got the very best console possible and made the best decision, because if he didn't make the best decision he'll never be able to buy the other console(s) and fix the problem.

Too bad they can't just relax and enjoy the different experiences offered by all the consoles.

Re:So Sad (1)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844442)

Right - this never happened in the old days. When my Colecovision SO PWNED your sucky 2600. I blame George Plimpton for starting the whole mess.

Re:So Sad (2, Funny)

rvw14 (733613) | more than 7 years ago | (#16857784)

Until I got the colecovision adapter for my 2600, then I had the best of both.

Re:So Sad (1)

ShibaInu (694434) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844612)

Back when I was single and lived in my own apartment, I had an N64. I enjoyed 007 and Perfect Dark, and thought life was good. Then, a buddy of mine came over for some drinks and started giving me a hard time about my choice of toys. He was a Playstation guy and thought his toy was much better than mine. I was sort of shocked that anyone would actually care what my choice of game console was... It has gotten worse though...

Re:So Sad (2, Insightful)

NexusTw1n (580394) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844898)

In my youth I argued about the relative merits of:

Atari VCS vs Philips Videopac

ZX81 vs Vic 20

Spectrum vs C64

ST vs Amiga

Part of the fun of being a kid is having the energy and enthusiasm to cheer lead the system you own, while dissing the system your best friend's parents bought him instead. It's fun, and just because it's now progressed onto the internet doesn't make it any less harmless then it's ever been.

Re:So Sad (1)

Psychotext (262644) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845134)

Part of the fun of being a kid is having the energy and enthusiasm to cheer lead the system you own, while dissing the system your best friend's parents bought him instead. It's fun, and just because it's now progressed onto the internet doesn't make it any less harmless then it's ever been.

Correct. What's sad is the amount of adults that are professional PR for the corporations... but don't get paid for it.

Re:So Sad (1)

Mindspider (993974) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845198)

When I was a kid, me and my friends debated the merits of one Ninja Turtles lunchbox over the other, and fought over which chick in Mortal Kombat 3 was the hottest. I'm glad that I didn't have access to the internet then- I don't think that I want to know what sort of spam I'd be responsible for.

Re:So Sad (4, Insightful)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845948)

Part of the fun of being a kid is having the energy and enthusiasm to cheer lead the system you own

Part of the fun of being a parent is teaching you child why they shouldn't be little assholes so they grow out of that phase in their lives eventually. Instead we outlaw discipline, have pep-rallies, endzone celebrations in high-school football games, and encourage childish behaviors right up into early adulthood.

It is not harmless to let your kid be a little brat with no guidance on why it is wrong. Someday they will have to grow up and work with other people instead of having a need to one-up everybody.

Re:So Sad (1)

MeanderingMind (884641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846216)

You lose the internet, but win life.

Re:So Sad (1)

eddiebrentwood (976336) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848508)

yeah, people(kids) get so crazy about this stuff. They are all good products. wii, 360 and ps3

When I was young, it was kind of too coincidental how our families always alway chose competing products.
Beta vs VHS
Preview vs Star (early cable)
Pepsi vs Coke
Atari vs Intellivision
TI994a vs Commodore
Nintendo NES vs Sega Master System

only thing we both liked was Nike.

that spans about 5 years of feuding. I am going to buy PS3 so I am sure he has bought Xbox 360.

Re:So Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845426)

You can only use this argument if everything is a reasonable choice. I think if you saw two games

1. a modern console priced $400
2. a bucket of sand priced $400

and some people bought the bucket of sand, you'd be entitled to call them stupid, even if it's a "different experience".

Re:So Sad (1)

colganc (581174) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845740)

Whats wrong with sand castles? :)

It is indeed sad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845970)

... we all know Amiga still r0x0rs, and Atari sucks0rs, w00t!

Sad, sad, sad...

Re:So Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16847060)

Is Zonk still living in his parent's basement?

PS3 was locked first because of vandalism, then the Wii, and most recently the XBox 360. You can tell which console has the least mature and most religiously fanatical fanboys by the order in which they were vandalized.

Re:So Sad (1)

tfinniga (555989) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848114)

Yeah, I think that once again, penny-arcade says it best [penny-arcade.com] .

I saw a sig once to the effect that the average slashdot poster is an idiot, and 50% are below average. Certainly a troubling thought, if we're supposed to be an intelligent community, or something. But I think that the truth is that idiots are louder, and poorly conceived and ill-balanced arguments are easier to yell. You may have also noticed this in, say, politics. I imagine most people may have preferences, but a disproportionate percentage of the overly zealous are the ones that garner the most attention.

Re:So Sad (1)

twosmokes (704364) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848712)

It's the same with any perceived competition. Sports teams, politics, religion. People (not just kids) feel the need to belong to some amorphous group that likes the same thing they do.

If you constantly proclaim how the other side sucks, you'll feel like your backing the right horse.

I enjoy owning all the consoles. I get to play any games that are released. It's just the order in which to purchase them that becomes a tough decision for me.

Re:So Sad (3, Insightful)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 7 years ago | (#16850474)

I find it disheartening that young gamers feel the need to find a single console and lock onto it with a religious fervor. We're all gamers, we all enjoy the same hobby, but a large part of the community spends its time decrying everyone else.

The most astoundingly stupid argument you can hear in a console X vs. console Y vs. PC debate is hardware. For many people, hardware by itself is everything; it doesn't matter what kind of graphics it produces or what kind of games are available for the platform, as long as the specs are, at the very least, theoretically superior to other platforms. Doesn't matter that Neverwinter Nights 2 looks and runs like shit while several GameCube and Xbox games look a lot better, it only matters that NWN2 is being played on a AMD64 with dual GF 7900s, while the aforementioned consoles have inferior hardware. Doesn't matter that Resident Evil 4 is crazy awesome and looks great, the GameCube's hardware is inferior to the Xbox's, at least on paper. I can't play shit like that, what would people think? Now I can't even play the Xbox because the Xbox 360 is better!

For a real gamer, hardware is just a means to an end (PC), or entirely irrelevant (consoles). Sure, you can be enthusiastic about hardware, but as soon as you start saying shit like "I can't play the GameCube because it has a 485 MHz CPU," you become an asshat.

Re:So Sad (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16850628)

unfortunately it is difficult for the younger gamers to come up with the approximate $1250 to be able to enjoy all three from the get go. This leads me back to the argument that they (Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo) should just give away a certain percentage of their stock in boxes of cheerios. I mean, they're already paying out the ass to subsidize (well not Nintendo, but that's just how they roll) them, but the $500 in our pockets launch day could be better spent on software and accessories. . .

The reason this is reported on Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844328)

...is because the idiots vandalising the Wikipedia entries are probably all Slashdot readers. Yes, I am talking to YOU! Grow up. The rest of the Internets are not amused.

God and Jesus like PS3!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844382)

They hate losers who buy what?-only-$250?-that-shit-MUST-suck Wii or already-one-year-old XBox360 junk!!!

THEY HATE YOU!!!! You will burn in HELL!!!1111!!!!11

Slashdot needs better editors (0, Redundant)

WizMaster (974384) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845586)

There are many more news articles worth posting here. This isn't even news. Who's cock gets sucked to pass these articles through?

Does this mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845596)

So, does this mean that the Nintendo Wii population has not tripled in the last six months?

Two sides of the story (1)

octopus72 (936841) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845638)

Wikipedia is excellent for some content but sucks for other. Many pages are bloated with fanboyish crap (+/=useless details) while they miss some important facts and - often - lack any critical approach ("bad side" of story often gets deleted by fans). While it can be very useful and condensed source of information, Wikipedia should not be only source of information, especially for stuff of wide (non-expert) interest.

I think this just proves... (1)

Tinman_au (1004053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846300)

...that angry console fanbois are actually pretty retarded...and very angry...about shit that doesn't actually matter...

Seriously guys, go and get angry about something WORTH getting angry about :/

Re:I think this just proves... (1)

dukieduke (918198) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846518)

To be fair, what exactly is worth getting angry about on the console field today?

Price? (obvious) Games? (obvious) Availability? (will very soon be obvious) It is a slow day coming until the weekend.

Re:I think this just proves... (1)

Tinman_au (1004053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847164)

Heck, they're just game consoles.

I can understand people getting <b>annoyed</b> about stuff related to them, but angry? People are getting onto shakey ground (personality wise) if they really are getting angry about which console "rulz".

It's also a shame that some console owners feel the need to deface a public resource to validate the choice they made in the "war".

It's a shame more people don't get angry enough to get off their arses to go and vote. Or get angry about the other dozens of issues mankind is now facing.

But no, lets get angry about a plastic box that cranks out pixels which may, or may not, crank out pixels faster than another one...

Re:I think this just proves... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16860120)

You just discovered the internet this morning, didnt you?

I'll never understand solo-system fanboys (1)

Daimando (842740) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846754)

Always wanting to defend the system they worship, and blasting down the other systems. Ex: "GCN and PS2 are kiddie. X-Box the way to go." or "Nintendo is best, hands down. Sony, MS and 3rd parties can all rot in hell." or "Sony is KING! Nintendo and Microsoft sucks." I'll never, ever, understand them. Silly fanboys.

Re:I'll never understand solo-system fanboys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16860974)

We should support Sony and Microsoft's console business models then?

Reliability (1)

mqduck (232646) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847182)

TFA:
Wikipedia was set up in 2001, and initially there was much skepticism that an encyclopedia wholly written, edited, and peer-edited by the general public would be a reliable source of information, but it is now in common usage.

Now I love Wikipedia and think it represents the future of... stuff, and all, and I definitely think it's a good and legitimate place to do research, but this quote implies that those fears went away. If fact, the number or people vocalizing these fears have been growing since the beginning.

"Closed"? No. (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847588)

The entries weren't "closed", they were "semi-protected". From the headline one might assume the entries had been withdrawn. That would be notable, but restricting editing to registered users isn't very dramatic, so some idiot decided to sex up the story.

Bad Article Title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16848090)

It makes it sound as if the pages were removed. They aren't, they were locked to editing.

PCs for teh win! (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 7 years ago | (#16848614)

This just proves that PC gaming is superior.

Re:PCs for teh win! (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 7 years ago | (#16850004)

Who do you think is doing all the vandalising?

Re:PCs for teh win! (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16850360)

Console gamers. The type of people who think Halo is a good game.

Re:PCs for teh win! (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 7 years ago | (#16857616)

Via gamepads?

Re:PCs for teh win! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16852274)

lol

Re:PCs for teh win! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16862448)

"I'm a fan of any device that connects me to n00bs, and lets me pwn them"

Sony on Shakey Ground But Nintendo Must Follow Up (0, Offtopic)

tilandal (1004811) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849018)

With the PS3 launch Sony has left the door open for Nintendo to sweep this generation but Nintendo must follow up. For all of its flaws Sony has put together a nice piece of hardware in the PS3. If Sony had followed up with a good price point and a strong launch I have no doubt that they would have maintained thier lead in this generation. Unfortunatly for them they have misstepped. The combination of a high price point and tight supply will keep Sony from moving enough units to take a clear lead early in the consol race. This gives Nintendo the chance to show the world that this is the DS vs PSP all over again. When the DS came out people were interested in it but skittish because it was something there were unfamiliare with. Sony could have won right here but they misjudged. The PSP was expensive and, because of an LCD shortage, Sony could not make enough units. Both the PSP and DS languished. With no killer apps on either side there was nothing to drive sales. Then, Nintendo cane out with Nintendogs and everything just clicked. It was that simple game that brought home the whole Idea of the DS. Momentum from Nintendogs drove sales of the DS which, in turn, drove sales of other software. Because the DS was simpler to make then the PSP Nintendo was able to ramp up production and they ran with it. Now the DS is outselling the PSP 5:1 in Japan. Will we see the same thing happen with the Wii VS PS3? That depends on Nintendo. It looks like high price and production problems will keep the PS3 at bay for at least 6 months. If Nintendo can come up with the killer app they can gain the momentum. With the Wii being much easier to produce Nintendo can saturate the market and take the momentum away from Sony. If Sony looses momentum it becomes very hard to justify the $250 price difference and the market will fall to Nintendo. That is only one possible outcome though. If the Killer app fails to materialize, Sony ramps up production, and they are aggresive with price cuts Sony will probably run away with the market again. If Both Nintendo and Sony flounder we may end up with no clear winner this generation. But what about Microsoft? At this point it is very unlikely that Microsoft will pull off an upset. Here is why. Microsoft is positioned uncomfortably as the middle man. Not as powerful and sexy and the PS3 and not as affordable and invoative as the Wii. Any killer app Microsoft comes up with can be pushed onto the PS3 as well. On top of that, both the PS3 and the Xbox360 do not bring anything new to the table. Although the games look better they have not been intorducing anything fundementally new. As such it is becoming more and more difficult to create that one hit game. Microsoft is also still having problems with the Japaneese market. There is no way that then can push ahead of Sony without a significant presence in the second larget Video game market.

This isn't news (1)

patio11 (857072) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849798)

The number of semi-protected entries has tripled in the last six months.

The best scenario (1)

sherriw (794536) | more than 7 years ago | (#16853296)

IMHO the absolute BEST scenario would be if ALL of the next gen consoles rocked. If they were all spectacular and all had their own unique feature that adds to the world of gaming. This would encourage them all to work even harder to out-compete eachother for the next round. In then end, benefiting us all. Suppose one of them ends up killing all others by a huge margin. This will stifle competition- the top dog will get lazy and won't innovate so well for their next gen, and the losers won't have the money to innovate like crazy for the next round.

All in all- closer competition benefits all gamers. These fanbois defacing the wikipedia site are just idiots.

By the way, anyone know which console(s) Resident Evil 5 will be officially released on? RE4 was fabulous, can't wait for the next one.

Re:The best scenario (1)

gryfen (853155) | more than 7 years ago | (#16856900)

Best for whom? Rabidly attaching one's loyalty to what appears to be the coolest system is what fills the need (temporarily) of the fanbois to belong to and identify with a group and idea that is bigger and cooler than they are. Defacing webpages is a rite of passage that proves their loyalty and helps cement their self-image as belonging.

If all the consoles appeared equal, and there were no clear winners (based on whatever criteria a given fanboi was using), they would be confused and not know who to identify with, thereby causing an identity crisis.

And you think all this existential trauma is worth your being able to benefit from the ideal capitalist state (honest-to-god competition, resulting in businesses striving to put out unique and high-quality products)? How selfish can you be? ;)
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