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Making the Jump From Web To TV

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the cewebrities dept.

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PreacherTom writes, "No stranger to the tech-savvy, video bloggers are the next phenomenon to go from online to the mainstream. For example, Internet celebrity Amanda Congdon just finished broadcasting her cross-country relocation from New York to L.A. on the Web. The former host of Rocketboom, one of the most popular of the video blogs, with roughly 211,000 daily viewers, has a new gig as a contributor for ABC. She's not alone. In fact, major movie and TV studios are increasingly looking to the Web for new talent for both on- and offline projects."

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This is new? (0, Troll)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844390)

Wow. Hot young chick does a demo tape (video blog), and a network picks her up. This is new because...?

Oh, right..it's on the Internet (TM)

There's another way (3, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844434)

There's another way to make the jump from web to TV. I think Dateline NBC has been running shows on it. [msn.com]

Re:There's another way (1)

ConsumerOfMany (942944) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844524)

I cant wait till the host of that show gets stabbed or shot on air. Its only a matter of time.

Re:There's another way (1)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845162)

I cant wait till the host of that show gets stabbed or shot on air. Its only a matter of time.

I thought the same thing about that show "Cheaters", and damn if Joey Greco didn't get stabbed in the gut within a month.

Re:There's another way (2, Insightful)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845220)

Although I hate the way the host tries to question people about why they decided to come and have sex with a 12 yr old because it's pretty pointless I actually believe it is one of the few programs that actually does a good public service fear of public humiliation will definitely deter some of the potential pedophiles out there, not all, but I'm sure a few will think twice before they try picking up some 12 yr old on the internet.

Re:There's another way (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 7 years ago | (#16849420)

I think it would be hilarious if somebody posed as a pedophile simply to get this guy to show up.

Maybe a "Surprise, douchebag!", maybe even a camera crew too.

Seriously, stigmatizing people with such deviant behavior does not make the behavior go away; it simply drives them farther to the margin. If you're going to single out individuals, you're an ass for not giving them an option to seek help in place of humiliating them---yes, that's blackmail, but if you insist on fighting what you perceive as a wrong with another wrong...

(No, I DWTFS.)

Rock On! (1)

noahisaac (956470) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844464)

Yes! It's my chance to become famous! After all, everyone wants to watch a geek sitting in front of a computer writing code. Man, now THAT's entertainment!

Rock On!-Rocks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845790)

"After all, everyone wants to watch a geek sitting in front of a computer writing code. Man, now THAT's entertainment!"

Especially one handed!

yawn... (-1, Troll)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844486)

"famous video blogger..." who?

Page hits are notoriously bad, especially for people with a trillion little images and what not.

She probably gets 1000 [unique] visitors at most a day. The world has over 6 billion people in it.

Guess what. NOBODY CARES.

Why is this on /.?

Tom

Re:yawn... (1)

Bertie (87778) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845066)

Clearly you're not familiar with the wonder of Mademoiselle Congdon's breasts.

Re:yawn... (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845438)

Yeah cuz porn is so hard to get on the net...

I'm so hard up that I have to watch some b-rated barbie talk on her blog ...

Tom

Re:yawn... (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846264)

Rocketboom didn't belong to her, and was more akin to a newsmagazine. She was the newsreader, so it is not surprising she's going to be doing similar on TV.

Who? (4, Interesting)

British (51765) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844522)

Raise your hand if you haven't heard of Amanda Congdon until now. If she's been seen by 211K people, I guess I'm not one of them. 211K people is a small # of tv viewers, and even smaller segment of web surfers. I think more people would recognize the Star Wars Kid, or that Numa Numa dork. Or, I could be completely wrong.

"Internet celebrity", uh, yeah... Just what we need, more Paris Hiltons and people who are famous for something trivial, or even nothing.

All I know is I wish I could view youtube clips on my TV without any file conversion(making it look worse), or hooking up my ipod, etc. I watch YouTube clips 100 times more often than Comcast's skimpy "On Demand" programming. I wonder if some day people will say "watch youtube" instead of "Watch tv".

Re:Who? (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844926)

No really, it was a bid deal when she left Rocketboom, which itself was a big thing in vodcasts.

Then again I have a PSP and Rocketboom was one of the first vodcasts to have a PSP version one could download directly using the PSP's browser. Nowadays with the RSS and the /VIDEO folder that isn't picky about video without the sony atom in the header, one can just subscribe to the iPod version.

Re:Who? (1)

ben there... (946946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845022)

All I know is I wish I could view youtube clips on my TV without any file conversion(making it look worse), or hooking up my ipod, etc.

I'm not sure I understand. If you use component or DVI, then open YouTube, there's no file conversion.

Or do you download the .flv? You can play them directly in WMP if you like.

1. Download FLVSplitter [sourceforge.net].
2. Put flvsplitter.ax in \Windows\System32.
3. Run regsvr32 flvsplitter.ax
4. Associate .flv with WMP.

YouTube on your TV (1)

Phishcast (673016) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845332)

I recently discovered that with Xbox Media Center (http://xboxmediacenter.de) I can do just this. There are certainly downsides -- the browsing interface isn't as flexible as with a web browser, and searching kind of blows because you have to type in your search terms with your remote control via an on-screen keyboard. But it is YouTube on your TV. I was surprised at how decent it looked.

Have your very own Amanda! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846950)

Here you go [huffingtonpost.com], thwackers!

Re:Who? (3, Informative)

DustCollector (903185) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847638)

(Keeping hand down) Amanda Congdon preceded youTube. She can be considered the co-founder and Mother of the vlog... the other founder and Father being her estranged business partner Andrew Baron. I learned about RocketBoom from Scoble's blog (I expect more slashdotters are familiar with him) back in late 2004.

Rocketboom was a way cool and quirky 3 minute daily show. As I understand it, Amanda didn't get paid much doing the show, and was a struggling actress. ...very different from the heiress Paris Hilton.

I shouldn't say "was" as Rocketboom still airs, but with new hostess Joanne Colan.

Anyway, to all the slash dot cynics, Amanda has worked hard and has earned her success.

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16848362)

211k for a podcast is a hell of a lot, actually. It's incredibly difficult to earn those kind of numbers for a VIDEO podcast. I think you downplay that kind of achievement a little too much.

Re:Who? (1)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 7 years ago | (#16855570)

All I know is I wish I could view youtube clips on my TV without any file conversion

  1. Download video from YouTube (KeepVid [keepvid.com] will give you the download link).
  2. Connect TV to your Linux box.
  3. mplayer -fs foo.flv
  4. ...
  5. Profit!

Makes sence (-1, Flamebait)

0racle (667029) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844548)

When you get so used to putting crap on the air, its only natural to turn to people who put out crap in their free time to increase your crap production.

podcasts++, videocasts-- (1)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844568)

The beauty of podcasts is that I can listen to them in my car - videocasts demand my full attention. It's great to be able to keep up with the latest Java news [javaposse.com] while sitting in traffic; makes that time feel less wasted. This interview [blogs.com] wasn't too bad neither.

Re:podcasts++, videocasts-- (5, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845214)

You can watch videocasts whilst driving.
Its just one of many things possible now with powerful notebook computers and wireless internet.

Right now I am driving down the motorway typing on a full qwerty keyboard and theres no probl%^^^&^!"$^%$[NO CARRIER]

exactly who the fuck?? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844596)

That's what i said too, video bloger who? I mean i watch my share of video blogs but i've never heard of this chick.

Though i suppose it doesn't hurt that she's easy on the eyes and looks a bit like heather grahm.

Here is a little advice sweet heart when they say you have to sleep with me to get the part, it's a sham and you shouldn't have moved. ;)

then again this is ABC (Disney) so i'm sure she'll get some stupid ass show like hanna montanna or some other lame ass the wonder life of yak and pony or something.

I'm sooo sick of watching dumb beautiful people "act badly" on tv that i don't even watch but a handful of channels which are either documentary's, pbs news programs, or history oriented.

Well just another reason to NOT watch ABC in my book.

Ryan Seacrest OUT!.

Re:exactly who the fuck?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844810)

> then again this is ABC (Disney) so i'm sure she'll get some stupid ass show like hanna montanna

Are you seriously blasting a show written for 6 year old girls? I would hope you don't like Hanna Montana.

Re:exactly who the fuck?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846516)

your darn toot'n that i'm blasting a show for 6 year old girls cause 6 year old girls turn into 7 yearold girls, etc. so eventually they be stupid young women like paris hilton and knocked up wondering "what would montanna do ;) Not to mention that the whole premis is based on the girl lies to everyone, and that it's better to be famous than "normal". Regardless of the "on this very special episode of hanna montanna".........

How to get viewed (0, Troll)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844896)

Old model: have sex with agent and hope he puts your name around. New model: have sex with /. editor, hope your site gets slashdotted.

You have to wonder where the 211k viewers come from. If we subtract the slashdotting then there are probably about 5 hits.

Non-representative sample (5, Insightful)

tkrotchko (124118) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844604)

"Amanda Congdon"

I asked the twenty people around me if they'd ever heard of this person. No one has.

I went to her site. A lot of bandwidth to tell you that she's famous and will be on TV soon. She points you to her own entry on Wikipedia (which looks suspiciously like her web site). The web site says that she's famous and will be on TV soon.

I suspect one of the editors of /. just met her and is smitten with her. Now he can call and say "gee, I hope we didn't [nervous laugh] slashdot your site [more nervous laughter]"

Re:Non-representative sample (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844860)

she really is famous in the video blog set. I think Rocketboom was the #1 videoblog on iTunes and other places that rate videocats/vodcasts in part thanks to her.

Re:Non-representative sample (-1, Flamebait)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844974)

Emmanuel Goldstein [wikipedia.org] is famous in certain circles too. I doubt the average person knows who he is.

The difference? This person fights for your right to share and distribute information and has been doing os since 1983.

This female "blogger" is just some twat with an opinion.

Tom

Re:Non-representative sample (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847528)

Since Rocketboom was more like a newsmagazine she didn't really have an opinion, she was just a newsreader. Not that much different from Meredith Viera, or Katie Couric.

Re:Non-representative sample (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846146)

I suspect one of the editors of /. just met her and is smitten with her. Now he can call and say "gee, I hope we didn't [nervous laugh] slashdot your site [more nervous laughter]"

To be fair, it's BusinessWeek.com making the assertion that she's the "latest 'cewebrity'" - complete with the, uh, clever "cewebrity" joke. Slashdot is just reporting on BusinessWeek.com's story.

Although, based on the article over at BusinessWeek.com, simply replacing "/." with "BusinessWeek.com" provides a likely true statement.

I must be living under a rock... (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844624)

...because until now, I've never heard of these people. And even when I did, I didn't give a rats arse...

SNL has done it (2, Interesting)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844822)

This isn't exactly new. SNL recruited one of it's latest cast members from the internet, Andy Samberg (spelling?). He's the shaggy haired one that wrote the "Chronic-cles of Narnia" skit. I hadn't heard of him before, and I definitely have not heard of this lady, but it does prove that the internet can be useful as a place to audition your skills. You can direct casting directors to your web site for a more robust showing of your skills.

Re:SNL has done it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845052)

"SNL recruited one of it's latest cast members"

Can't help you with your spelling, but perhaps your grammar will improve when you stop writing IT IS in the wrong place.

Re:SNL has done it (1)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 7 years ago | (#16852266)

"Can't help you with your spelling, but perhaps your grammar will improve when you stop writing IT IS in the wrong place."

You could use some help as well. I am sure what you meant to say is "I can't help you with your spelling..." Also, using contractions in formal writing is generally frowned upon. Normally I would not consider a Slashdot post to be formal, but your nitpicking indicates otherwise.

Re:SNL has done it (1)

jalefkowit (101585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847264)

I think you've got it backwards. That skit ("Lazy Sunday [wikipedia.org]") was originally made by Chris Parnell and Andy Samberg for SNL. After it aired it became an online hit. In other words, Samberg was an SNL "featured player" already when he made "Lazy Sunday".

Re:SNL has done it (1)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 7 years ago | (#16852218)

Actually I've got it correct. Yes "Lazy Sunday" was made by Samberg and Parnell after they were already part of the SNL cast and the skit was originally written for and broadcast on SNL. However, Samberg was "discovered" by Lorne Micheals from his internet short films and parodies.

From the SNL castmember bio:
A native of Berkley, Calif., Samberg was one of three LA-based writer-performer-filmmakers (all childhood friends) dubbed "The Lonely Island" whose short films were showcased on the popular "untelevised television network" show and website: Channel 101.com. Some of their popular shorts included the "O.C." parody "The 'Bu" and their full length pilot "Awesometown." Samberg's "Lonely Island" cohorts Jorma Taccone and Akiva Schaffer now write for SNL as well.

Ze Frank is the bomb!!! (2, Interesting)

irritating environme (529534) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844872)

Why isn't Ze Frank being picked up? I'm surprised the Daily Show doesn't show his stuff.

Re:Ze Frank is the bomb!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845518)

There's no need. The writers for Stephen Colbert already steal his best material.

Blogs schmogs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845036)

Another success story is the people behind Consolevania [wikipedia.org] (a TV show about gaming) being picked up by the BBC to create a similar (successful!) show for the Real Telly (tm) [bbc.co.uk].

Gas in yer face! [youtube.com]

Yay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16845060)

We need more information about the latest fads please. Is this slashdot or E exclamation point?

(In case you missed the sarcasm, it's there.)

Eh? (4, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845146)

Making the Jump From Web To TV

Ew. I mean, why "jump" backwards?

TV (I'm not talking about the art of making movies here, I'm talking about television programming) is 99.99% meaningless mindsturbation. Of all the technologies humankind has come up with, surely television is the one that has almost completely failed to reach the potential it offered.

The web, on the other hand, is able to actually be endlessly engaging and at least does contain enormous amounts of worthwhile content available at any hour of the day if you simply seek it out. We can interact, as we do here, we can study endless hours, we can create content for others to study, we can visit other places and societies, we can search out reviews and counter-opinions. The web strongly defies the pressure from commercial entities to reduce it to its least common denominator.

Television... that is not the case. Television, as near as I can tell, is constantly reaching for the least common denominator, and what's more, getting there without any trouble at all. Faux News. Lost. Survivor. Infomercials. Religious broadcasts. Medium and Psychic Detectives. Blind Date. TV is like a sewer of the mind; all decayed, toxic matter, nothing suitable for human consumption.

Honestly, the most valuable thing I've seen on television in the last few months was an HGTV show that gave tips on how to go about room renovation. The only worthwhile news show on the box is the bloody daily show, and "science" on television seems to simply mean Yet Another UFO Show For Rubes.

Jump from the web to TV? No, I think the correct phrase might be "Fall from the web to TV", or "Slip from the web to TV", or even "Television claims another victim."

Re:Eh? (1)

GiMP (10923) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847152)

You're right, the next big thing (and its happening already) is internet television, already I'm watching Amazon's Fishbowl with Bill Maher [amazon.com], and downloading television shows on iTunes. ABC and FOX are putting their shows online for free, while other channels are putting promo episodes online. Sony's Musicbox replaces the now-defunct MTV, and YouTube has more than replaced public television.

Now, if only international copyright laws and/or paranoia would be cleared up enough that I wouldn't need to use proxy servers to get to this content from outside the USA.

Television's last great roar before it's death (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859892)

Personaly, I think television as it is is very primitive and even archaic compared to the web these days. Right now, we are still hearing all of this "hi-def" this and that, and people are being pushed by the media and mfgs. to buy a nice 60 inch silver colored super duper plasma High Def TV to out do the Jonses, and there seemes to be an usualy big wave of hype over TV these days (generated, suprise!, by the media mougls themselves) .

The reality is, this medium is dying, and sites like YouTube and the net in general is slowly but surely taking it's place. Most of what's on TV is insepid slop (watch enough daytime TV, and you will gleefuly remove your own eyes with an ice pick. Primetime isn't all that much better), you can't watch whenever you want, when you want it (DVRs and limited "on demand libraries" are just a kludge to fix this problem), most of the shit is one sided and you can be sure when they do allow call-ins, on spot interviews or whatever, they are very careful about what they allow on the air, and I'm not talking about swear words here, the only info you get is what they decide to pump out to you, and even the technology itself is extremely restrictive, and completely subject to the whims of corporations, politicians, and anybody who has a nice fat wallet, leaving the "regular" people out of the picture.

  TV's days are numbered, and as computer and network technologies continue to improve and broadband spreads, this dinosaur will just rot more and more until it get regulated to the
history books.

a better story (2, Funny)

ottc777 (1027218) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845182)

a better story would have been if that monkey that stuck his finger up his but, smelled it and fell out a tree got a movie gig. All Hail the Chimp!

Re:a better story (1)

Ana10g (966013) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845598)

a better story would have been if that monkey that stuck his finger up his but, smelled it and fell out a tree got a movie gig. All Hail the Chimp!

George Lucas?

this is no biggie (1)

DaveJay (133437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845218)

Eh. Talented people use tools available to them to develop a reputation and generate publicity. This type of thing predated blogs, and the web in fact.

what is this... (1)

paniq (833972) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845320)

What is this new "Television" everybody is talking about? Could this be the tube that I threw away 2 years ago?

Pure Pwnage (1)

DimGeo (694000) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845474)

I'd really like to see these guys taking some money for the effort. But after ep. 12, I don't know... Even if Jeremy agrees, and Kyle finds some other TV executives, they still have to deal with FPS Doug first. I suppose Jeremy could try a micro combo right before Doug fires that nintendo pistol, though.

No TV (1)

16K Ram Pack (690082) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845758)

You know what annoys me? That people can't accept that something being on the web is just fine. That it's only legitimate if it gets turned into a book or goes to TV.

I think it's a generational thing. Lots of young people are now tuned out of TV, tuned out of newspapers. Their default space is online - chatting via MSN, reading myspace, blogs, youtube. TV is something they switch to when there's something they really want to see.

Re:No TV (1)

rholland356 (466635) | more than 7 years ago | (#16855002)

You know what annoys me? That people can't accept that something being on the web is just fine. That it's only legitimate if it gets turned into a book or goes to TV.

Why does it annoy you that the web-successful are seeking an audience through a bigger screen size? Say, you don't suffer screen envy, do you?


I think it's a generational thing.


It's a money thing. A revenue thing. The profit motive gets diluted on the internet, so if you want to add some digits to your paycheck, you must seek the delivery channel that focuses the audience.

Cart before horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846326)

In my opinion the entire premise of this article is backwards and out of step with 21st Century
culture. The internet is the new mainstream, at least as far as myself, my family (who do not
own a TV) and many of my friends are concerned. The only meaningful way to jump is *from* the dieing
medium of television into the reality of internet culture. However, regardless of how much money
the mainstream players throw at marketing online they sem to fail because they don't understand the
culture of the internet. If you are already established in the online world why would anybody care
about television or radio these days?

I wont say she's a retard but (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16846342)

all this shit is. IS.
210k extra viewers for the MSM network.
Like The fuckers don't have enough food.

Dear Girl.
Quit paying 210K download bandwidth (Must be a huge bill) for your show and make a public access show.

SCREW THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

MAINSTREAM MEDIA BLACKOUT
ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE FAILURES
FUCK KATIE COURIC!
FUCK ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and yes FUCK PBS and it's little dog TOO!

You stupid fucking people don't get it.
WE ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY!
WE LOST the 4,5,6,7,8 AMENDMENTS OF THE CONSTITUTION.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

SUPPORT NET NEUTRALITY
SUPPORT PUBLIC ACCESS
SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION
DONT BREAK YOUR OATH OF OFFICE

Or fuck off and die you fucking facists.

wasn't it that TV was being brought to the web? (1)

netsfr (839855) | more than 7 years ago | (#16846846)

with all of this fanfair recently with YouTube and stuff, I thought it was going the other way...

Wake me up when Joanne jumps (1)

CityZen (464761) | more than 7 years ago | (#16847392)

I only started watching Rocketboom more recently.

I think Joanne Colan is fantastic!

Must watch more Rocketboom...

The last gasp (1)

symbolic (11752) | more than 7 years ago | (#16852998)


I believe that the minute a major network gets their hands on new talent, especially from the likes of YouTube or other vlogging community, it could very well end up in the removal of the elements that made the individual popular in the first place. Since their first priority is revenue, I'm convinced that they're likely to take whatever they get, and dumb it down to appeal to the widest possible audience. Therein lies the charm of YouTube et al. If you're not popular on YouTube, it's not YouTube's problem. YOU decide what to do about it, not the collective input of 10 managers at various levels of a corporate media company.
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