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Zune Not Compatible With Windows Vista

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 7 years ago | from the dungeons-but-not-dragons dept.

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danimrich writes "According to a report by AppleInsider and a Microsoft support document the software for the Zune player is not compatible with Windows Vista."

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Irish Not Compatible With Keith Curtis (1)

Keith Curtis (923118) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859040)

Fucking drunk ass Paddy O'Pisstank

Re:Irish Not Compatible With Keith Curtis (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859794)

Sure'n yer mother be compatible with me meat shillelagh, boyo.

That's ok... (4, Funny)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859042)

...because I'm not compatible with Vista either.

all's not lost (2, Funny)

gregtron (1009171) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859096)

You can still use the Zune! You'll never want for DRM restrictions again!

Re:That's ok... (1, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859238)

Zune zune zune!

Re:That's ok... (2, Funny)

dolson (634094) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859634)

Oh man, I hope they hire the Zoom-Zoom kid that Mazda did!

Re:That's ok... (5, Funny)

Salvance (1014001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859302)

Hehe ... apparently Steve Ballmer isn't compatible with Zune: "I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's [an] experience". Does he even know how the Zune works? There should be a rule against putting the word 'Squirt' in a sentence with Steve Ballmer ... ugh, nasty.

Steve Balmer wants to squirt you his pictures??? (5, Funny)

Jabrwock (985861) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859422)

"I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's [an] experience," he said.

I'll bet it is. I think I'll pass though. I don't want Steve Balmer squirting things at me.

Honestly, what strange part of his brain thinks that even SOUNDS right?

Is that him wanting to be someone else? (5, Funny)

remmelt (837671) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859514)

I always wondered if that was the sound of Steve Balmer wanting to be someone else... You know the one. He's also called Steve.

Re:Steve Balmer wants to squirt you his pictures?? (1)

Svippy (876087) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859820)

Honestly, what strange part of his brain thinks that even SOUNDS right?

Perhaps he threw it away when he ran out of chairs. Or perhaps he squirt the chairs with that part of his brain? Or I am mixing to words together!

Oh noes, I am not compatible with Steve Ballmer!

Re:That's ok... (5, Funny)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859494)

steve ballmer squirting at me?

Thanks for that mental image :-(

Re:That's ok... (4, Funny)

bobdotorg (598873) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859706)

Hehe ... apparently Steve Ballmer isn't compatible with Zune: "I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's [an] experience". Does he even know how the Zune works? There should be a rule against putting the word 'Squirt' in a sentence with Steve Ballmer ... ugh, nasty.

In other news, Balmer's secretary's Zune was RMA'd today when a chair was forcefully squirted at it.

Re:That's ok... (1)

MrMarket (983874) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859770)

You know, it's like squirting pictures through the internets tubes.

Ob Nelson (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859048)

HA HA!

All that needs to be said about that... (0, Offtopic)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859052)

can be seen right here [allposters.com]

Well... (5, Funny)

AltGrendel (175092) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859058)

Looks like Vista will be a Zune killer app.

Yes, i know that Vista is an OS, not an app.

FUD! (4, Informative)

thepotoo (829391) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859898)

Fud, all fud.

I read on digg about three seconds ago, that it in fact does work. Set the installer to XP compatibility mode, and BAM! It works!

Now, I'd love to see vista flop, but it looks like Zune won't be it's downfall. A simple patch can fix the installer.

Full blog at http://vistazune.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]

As If... (-1, Flamebait)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859064)

As if you didn't already have enough good reasons to avoid Vista for a long time to come.

Of course, there are already enough good reasons to avoid Zune, so it's rather a wash.

Re:As If... (5, Funny)

diersing (679767) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859254)

BG - OK guys, are we ready for the Zune launch?
Lackey - yes sir
BG - and we completed ALL of our testing?
Lackey - yes sir
BG - make it so
~~~~ 24 hours later ~~~~
BG - WTF guys, you assured me we tested it!!
Lackey - we did, but we test against, you know, released systems people are using
BG - ...
Lackey - can we work it into Vista SP1?
BG - we'll have to, push back SP1 release to 4Q 2009

wow, comes with soft porn included. (4, Funny)

yagu (721525) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859086)

Disclaimer from the article:

And for those wondering, the splash screen of three women in distress isn't our contributor's stab at a knee-slapper.

Cool, Zune comes with it's own soft porn.

All seriousness aside, I think I'd already heard Zune wouldn't work with Vista immediately. Is that really a big show stopper? I'm guessing they've laid plans to have it ready to go by the time the OEMs are rolling out Vista-installed machines. An embarrassment perhaps, but Microsoft has many bigger and better gaffes to be proud of (say Clippy, and Microsoft Bob!).

Oh, and back to the soft porn, it must have been approved by the Ballmer himself, just look at the quote from his quoted Q&A session from Business Week in the article:

"I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's [an] experience," he said.

I think Steve's been spending a little too much time on-line.

Re:wow, comes with soft porn included. (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859202)

Personally, I find this picture [roughlydrafted.com] more fitting for the Zune. :D

Re:wow, comes with soft porn included. (1)

ben there... (946946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859400)

Cool, Zune comes with it's own soft porn.

Well, now I have at least one reason to buy a Zune.

Re:wow, comes with soft porn included. (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859710)

Heh, true story, last time I installed MS Office on my wife's PC, I did it via the followin.. first, "run all from hard drive" on the main option, then change Outlook to "Not Available".. then change Office Assistant to "Not Available" .. continue install.... That evening, I was adding the stupid dog... (not clippy, she likes the dog).

Not yet... (4, Insightful)

Armando_Mcgillicutty (773718) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859090)

Dollars to doughnuts that there will be an upgrade for the Zune software that makes it compatable. as soon as you can actually buy Vista.

Re:Not yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859172)

Dollars to doughnuts that there will be an upgrade for the Zune software that makes it compatable as soon as you can actually buy Vista.

You know, if they were to opensource Vista, it would happen a lot faster than that.

Re:Not yet... (4, Funny)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859292)

You'll never be able to actually buy Vista, just a very limited licence to run it.

Not that anybody sane would want to...

Re:Not yet... (2, Insightful)

Jeff250 (986303) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859354)

Still, this means that for those who bought a Zune now and will use Vista later, their CD software won't work, and they'll have to search the Internet for working software (assuming this isn't just an issue with beta Vista but an issue with Vista in general). It's not a terribly big deal for most of us, but I know a lot of people to whom this would be a major stumbling block trying to get their Zune working.

Re:Not yet... (5, Informative)

VertigoAce (257771) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859592)

The first thing the Zune installer does is check to see if there is updated Zune software available. It does this before it does the OS check, so the CD installer will work as soon as Vista-compatible software is released.

From what I read they will be releasing a beta version of the Zune software that is compatible with Vista RTM sometime relatively soon (hopefully by the Nov 30 business release). The non-beta version will be available by the time Vista is released to consumers (Jan 30)

Re:Not yet... (4, Insightful)

el_gordo101 (643167) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859714)

What if I'm not online while doing the install? Methinks that this is a fairly major "oops" on Microsoft's part. Vista has been under development for how long now and they couldn't get the Zune software to work correctly? Ouch.

Re:Not yet... (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859800)

If you are not online, you can just go back to your iPod and go to the iTunes site and..oh...wait...

WTF ? (5, Insightful)

jfclavette (961511) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859092)

Please. That might be because the OS is NOT OUT YET, and that it will be added as a supported OS when it is ?

Yes. Of course, Microsoft won't support Zune on his next OS. Thanks Slashdot. That wins the 'biggest troll story ever' award.

Re:WTF ? (1, Redundant)

bassgoonist (876907) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859214)

I agree

Re:WTF ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859466)

<AOL>ME TOO!</AOL>

Re:WTF ? (2, Insightful)

setirw (854029) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859248)

Yes, but Vista ought to be backwards-compatible with documents readable on legacy devices. I agree, though, that this article is flamebait.

Re:WTF ? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859252)

Those Zune developers really should have talked to Microsoft when writing their software. I'm sure Microsoft would have given them some sort of corporate discount on a software development kit.

Re:WTF ? (1)

TFoo (678732) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859566)

Except that the developer builds (and betas!) for Vista have been widely available both inside and outside of Microsoft for quite some time. As an ex-employee of MS, I'll bet you that at least 90% of the developers at Microsoft are running Vista on one of their boxes right now. So the "not out yet" excuse really doesn't hold water here.

The first 20 minutes of the new user's experience is critical in a consumer application like this. Requiring Joe Customer to go and download an update so that their brand new Zune works with their brand new PC is inexcusable.

Sure (1)

remmelt (837671) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859598)

Sure, but how hard can it be? The OS is supposed to handle backwards apps compatibly, so that can't be the problem. Or are you telling me the Zune is not recognised as a storage device? Or might it be that the string comparison for OS in the Zune app does not let Vista pass through? So many ways to spin it.

But I agree, spin it is.

Re:Sure (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859934)

My understanding is that, no, the Zune is NOT recognized as a USB mass storage device like most other MP3 players. So you can't use it for transporting files, etc.; it must be used with its companion application (Zune).

Re:WTF ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859662)

I agree. This article is retarded. Vista isn't released yet, so it isn't listed as supported. Do you say that the apps that you write are supported under configurations that are not released yet? Really? You will SUPPORT someone who has a non-public, unreleased OS?

Article is -1 Troll, -100 Posted by a Moron

Re:WTF ? (1, Insightful)

Stephen Samuel (106962) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859798)

Yeah, and despite going 'gold', Microsoft still doesn't have access to a properly working copy of Vista.
... because the OS is NOT OUT YET, ...

Re:WTF ? (0, Offtopic)

Simulant (528590) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859876)

Yeah.. I agree.

Microsoft releases a new CLI for Windows (Powershell 1.0 available as of yesterday. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell [wikipedia.org] for more info) yet they've rejected that story at least twice and post trolls like this instead.

Why support an unreleased OS? (5, Informative)

bheer (633842) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859098)

Especially when Zune was developed by a team with very little connection with Microsoft's OS/Office side? Also, they've said they're going to have an app update for Vista users in time for its Jan 30 general release. This is a non-story.

Re:Why support an unreleased OS? (2, Insightful)

smithbp (1002301) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859316)

It might be a good idea to support an OS that you have had such a large number of people beta testing for the last several months. While not all of these people probably ran out and purchased a Zune yesterday, a good number may have. How do you think Suzy HomeMaker whose husband installed Vista on their home pc feels now that she can't use the brown brick she just brought home from the local WalMart? The majority of the readers of this forum sit and laugh at the stupidity of this, but the average customer would be extremely upset by something like this and call M$ to say "My Zune is broken!!!! What do I do???" All the while freaking out and getting more upset. Just in general, it's a good idea to make something compatible with the products you plan to release in say the next quarter. Six months would be a stretch, but three I don't think is too much to ask for in the case of compatibility.

Compatibility (1)

norminator (784674) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859806)

Just in general, it's a good idea to make something compatible with the products you plan to release in say the next quarter.

Especially when one of those products is The Flagship Product, which was supposed to be released... well... how many quarters ago?

vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859102)

what's this vista thing anyway?

Come on, feel the sarcasm (4, Insightful)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859104)

Given that the Zune is also not compatible with Microsoft's own "PlaysForSure" music initiave, and its own Urge music store, could this be a trend?

Clearly this is a visionary tactic on behalf of Microsoft, and we can only assume that they have something better and wonderful planned that will blow everything else out of the water. A paradigm shift in musical entertainment, if you will.

Re:Come on, feel the sarcasm... for Sure (TM)? (5, Informative)

mspohr (589790) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859404)

This week's Economist has a good article on the Zune and other things Microsoft.

My favorite quote from the article:

Zune is much more controversial, however, because Microsoft's pre-existing hardware and service partners are left high and dry. "I've never seen a business so blatantly screw its business partners," says Peter Sealey, a professor at Berkeley's Haas School of Business.
Economist http://economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?sto ry_id=8142987 [economist.com]

Re:Come on, feel the sarcasm... for Sure (TM)? (4, Funny)

ksheff (2406) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859486)

I guess this person hasn't been following MSFT very long.

Welcome, Economist, to our planet. (4, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859792)

Zune is much more controversial, however, because Microsoft's pre-existing hardware and service partners are left high and dry. "I've never seen a business so blatantly screw its business partners," says Peter Sealey, a professor at Berkeley's Haas School of Business.
Let me be the first to say: "You must be new here."

Re:Come on, feel the sarcasm (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859492)

A paradigm shift in musical entertainment, if you will.

Payments for life of the author plus 70 years. It seems only fair that if the author's works are to support his heirs that your heirs should pay for your music.

KFG

Re:Come on, feel the sarcasm (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859526)

You also forgot about Napster, Real, Walmart, and all the other "music" companies that "partnered" with a company known for stabbing their "partners" in the back.

They have got to be loving Zune.

Now is the time for Apple to start licensing Fairplay to others. MSFT would choke. But that's not going to happen either. Jobs is to much of a control freak. Of course that is also why my hardware/software works so well. Where does one draw the line?

how sad. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859106)

two bloated wastes of developers time are incompatible. stuff that matters?

Article inaccuracy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859112)

Only the one woman is in distress and it's because she's been left out of the makeout session.

More important question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859116)

Why is the girl in the installer screen clearly in the middle of an orgasm? Seriously. W-T-F.

Re:More important question: (1)

ettlz (639203) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859390)

Well it seems to be doing something for Steve!

Re:More important question: (1)

ack154 (591432) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859556)

Well it seems to be doing something for Steve!

Ya, it would seem he's just squirting things all over the place...

*shudder*

Re:More important question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859674)

> Why is the girl in the installer screen clearly in the middle of an orgasm? Seriously. W-T-F.

No, that's her "I'm being fucked in the ass - hard" face.

Um... so? (1)

inotocracy (762166) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859124)

Vista isn't even being sold yet, why does it matter that it doesn't support it right now? Do you think the average Zune user has Vista installed?

Re:Um... so? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859204)

Do you think the average Zune user has Vista installed?

No, I'm guessing he doesn't.

Re:Um... so? (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859624)

Um....Yeah?

Since nearly everyone who uses Vista is a MS fan and probably dont have a iPod, they will all be wanting to get their hands on the Zune.

Re:Um... so? (1)

Tarkwyn (130064) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859936)

Vista isn't even being sold yet, why does it matter that it doesn't support it right now? Do you think the average Zune user has Vista installed?

You're right, the average user doesn't have Vista installed at the moment. However the average user is probably in one or both of the "thinking about upgrading to Vista" and "thinking about buying a Zune" camps. How do you think the marketing team for either Zune or Vista feel about the revelation that their products are currently incompatible?

Headlines like this will lower consumer preference to both Zune and Vista.

Yeah, right (0)

spacefight (577141) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859134)

... but Vista ist not yet released to retail and until then, it will support the Zune for sure...

Windows Vista is not supported at this time. Check back soon for updates.

Re:Yeah, right (1)

Gulik (179693) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859324)

... but Vista ist not yet released to retail and until then, it will support the Zune for sure...

I dunno; "ForSure" hasn't been the Zune's area of core competence, as it were.

Of course, that might be the joke you were going for, and I'm just a little slow on the uptake this late in the afternoon, in which case I beg your pardon.

Say it ain't so! (1, Redundant)

toleraen (831634) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859144)

You mean a piece of hardware isn't compatible with beta software?! This has never happened before, ever!

Re:Say it ain't so! (3, Insightful)

GFree (853379) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859242)

What? Vista's already finished, you can download the damn thing from torrent sites if you want to. It's done, yet the software is (apparently) still incompatible.

You could argue that since Vista's not legally available until the 30th November, there's no need for the Zune software to be compatiable, that'd be OK. But saying it's still in beta is incorrect.

Re:Say it ain't so! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859682)

um...actually vista is shipping to enterprise so technically it has moved out of the realm of beta. Just because consumers cant get it yet doesnt mean it isnt a shipping OS. But, the point of the article is: Microsoft was in a hurry to make the holiday rush that they havent made it compatible yet with vista -- it will require a software update. Therein lies the rub. Its as if they are showing us that they do not have an eye for little details like making the zune compatible with their next great OS. Oh wait they did do that didnt they.

Neither Zune nor iPod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859166)

Are compatible with Linux (officially), so why is this even news? We all know that software will be available to work with Vista by Jan 30th, when the OS is publicly released (for sale).

hmmm (1)

miamicanes1990 (1015925) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859210)

wow braking (see what I did there) news, zune wont work with Vista. Seeing the OS isnt even out yet. Top notch reporting.

The screenshot is on RC 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859258)

Rc 1 is not even close to the current version. Nice try guys.

Re:The screenshot is on RC 1 (5, Interesting)

ack154 (591432) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859446)

Out of all of the people complaining that Vista "isn't out yet" ... this comment actually makes the most sense to explain the incompatibility. There have been what... 2, 3 more builds since RC1 that have been available for public download?

That being said, it seems to be the actual Zune software that's not recognizing a supported OS - and not necessarily the OS allowing it to install. So the build of Vista may be irrelevant.

Troll article (0)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859262)

Vista isn't even out yet. It stands to reason that MS wouldn't have gone so far as to sort their player out for an OS that isn't even released to businesses, let alone consumers, yet. Indeed, the page at Zune's website pretty much says that they're working on it.

But of course, that doesn't make as good a headline on Slashdot, and doesn't inspire the same sort of 99%-baseless M$ bashing bukkake sessions that we seem to witness on Slashdot every fucking night.

Re:Troll article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859374)

'you cant have too much of a good thing' comes to mind

then again, so does smoking a blunt, but thats just me.
(and probably 30% of the worlds population as well)

XP/MCE only (4, Informative)

richdun (672214) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859268)

*puts on flamesuit*

So they don't "officially" support Vista. It isn't "officially" out yet. Big deal. They also aren't supporting anything other than XP SP2 and MCE 2005. ME, 2000, etc. are all left out.

What I want to know, is whether they plan to even attempt native Mac OS X support. At least Apple supports Windows with iTunes. After all the complaining about choice, DRM that goes too far, etc., MS is doing even worse.

But give them credit - the iPod was initially Mac-only, Firewire-only, and had no music store attached to it, and it started out fine. Sure, opening the flood gates with Windows + iTunes really propelled it, but this is the first edition.

Linux fans, there's an article about Blizzard banning WoW Linux users down a couple more on the front page. Don't even bother with this discussion. :)

Re:XP/MCE only (1)

HappyDrgn (142428) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859746)

"iPod was initially Mac-only, Firewire-only, and had no music store attached to it"
 
Good point. I never even considered getting an iPod until these three things changed... now I own two.

Re:XP/MCE only (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859836)

But give them credit - the iPod was initially Mac-only, Firewire-only, and had no music store attached to it, and it started out fine. Sure, opening the flood gates with Windows + iTunes really propelled it, but this is the first edition.

Yes, but that was years ago. Over those past few years, the bar has been raised by... well, the iPod. If Microsoft wants an "iPod killer", they should be working on something that does at least as much.

So what? (1)

Keith Russell (4440) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859276)

If a Vista-compatible Zune software package isn't available on the day Vista is available to the general public, then you have a story. I don't blame Microsoft for declaring a time-bombed, semi-public beta of an operating system to be unsupported. Time spent on making Zune compatible with a handful of Vista RC1 installs is time not spent on a product that will ship to millions in 2 months.

Alternate title for Digg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859286)

zune totally pwns Vista!!!

Compatible with Vista (4, Funny)

kaoshin (110328) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859326)

By the time Vista is released, the only things compatible with it will be in museums.

Apparently Works with Vista RC2 - details (5, Informative)

Jtheletter (686279) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859334)

As claimed by a blogger, you can in fact install the Zune software under Vista RC2. Here is a link to his blog [blogspot.com] , and the steps are included below to fend off karma whores and help save the guy a little bandwidth. Note, I do not have Vista RC2 or a Zune and have not tested this. Cheers.

1. Don't let the Zune CD autorun - instead right click on it in my computer and choose open
2. On the Zune setup .exe right click and go to properties
3. Click on the compatibility tab, then check "run this program in compatibility mode for:" and select Windows XP SP2
4. Hit apply, then ok and now go back to the opened Zune folder and run the Zunesetup.exe

Re:Apparently Works with Vista RC2 - details (1)

zlogic (892404) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859964)

If an app clearly states it's incompatible with Vista (and not just "we're not sure if this will work"), you're likely to run into problems. I tried to install an older, Vista-incompatible version of Nero this way and it crashed the installation and wouldn't uninstall. Had to clean all the files manually.

As "Fair and Balanced" as Fox News (1, Troll)

gotamd (903351) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859382)

However, Microsoft has also said that it will be compatible before Vista comes out for consumers. I don't see the big deal here.

The Zune speaks to me... (1)

Admiral Frosty (919523) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859470)

Its ok that the Zune doesn't work with Vista, urge, or playforsure. I never liked those things anyway. Now if it was compatible with somethings I do like (iTunes), then I wouldn't completely dismiss it outright. But it doesn't, so I do.

It reminds me of Windows Activation. It actively denies me the ability to use my legal copy of XP. It's almost like a divine nudge that maybe I shouldn't be subjecting myself to it anyways. So I boot into Kubuntu.

If Zune actually worked with Vista.... (-1, Offtopic)

8127972 (73495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859490)

.... Then the terrorists will win.

If Zune isn't compatible... (1)

weinerofthemonth (1027672) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859506)

Anyone want to lay odds on whether iTunes works with Vista out of the gate? It is rather surprising that Microsoft's own device isn't compatible with Vista given the priority Microsoft gives to backwards compatibility. It probably works fine if you can get it to install. I am sure the installer is simply checking the OS version, not seeing Windows XP and saying sorry, your platform isn't supported.

Re:If Zune isn't compatible... (4, Informative)

8127972 (73495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859548)

From http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_beta2 _04.asp [winsupersite.com]

"Apple iTunes and QuickTime Pro 7.1
Works: Yes (with problems)
Notes: iTunes installs but behaves strangely. The desktop and Quick Launch toolbar icons for the application are blank and cannot be fixed. Performance is horrible, even more so that iTunes' usual problems. Both iTunes and QuickTime Pro are incompatible with the Windows Aero user interface; when they are running, Windows Vista reverts to the Windows Basic UI. (See below for more information.)"

Does iTunes work with Vista? (1)

chrism238 (657741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859516)

If so, how has this been possible for a group even more 'outside' than the Zune group?
If not, it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for Apple's update.

Just an idea... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859518)

Maybe Microsoft should ask the PC Guy to talk to Steve Jobs on their behalf about product marketing and strategy.

Cost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859574)

You've got it all wrong. You have to pay EXTRA for the software to work with Vista.

This just in... (1)

the dark hero (971268) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859628)

Duke Nukem Forever not compatible with Phantom.

Damn.

In other news to care less about...

Hopefully.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859664)

This doesnt mean I *must* choose either Vista or the Zune. Becuase, quite frankly, I have no intention of using either one (or incidentally, anything else Microsoft)

Discussion (2, Funny)

Daemonstar (84116) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859680)

What I think is funny is the discussion about the article on the article's site is not about Vista and the Zune, but whether Oriental or Asian is correct (or offensive) to describe the girls in the picture. :P

Dirty old man! (3, Funny)

bstempi (844043) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859730)

FTA:
In a Q&A session with BusinessWeek last month, Ballmer offered similar sentiments on the wireless capabilities of his company's new digital media player.
"I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation. That's [an] experience," he said.

Am I the only one that finds Ballmer's quest to "squirt" me his kid...um...disturbing?

Brings back memories (3, Insightful)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859740)

Zune Not Compatible With Windows Vista

Reminds me of back in the late 90s when I was trying to use Microsoft Office products, I did use Word as far back as the late 80s. I kept having compatibility issues with other Microsoft products. I found third party software supported Microsoft formats better than Microsoft did. I finally got sick of it and dropped Microsoft products. Hard to believe a company of that size not supporting their own products. I've worked for large corporations and it generally comes down to departments not talking to each other. There tends to be a lot of internal competition inside the companies. Specifications are often treated as priviledged information even between different departments.

Um... (1)

thestudio_bob (894258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859756)

They're not supporting Mac OS 10.5 Leopard at this time either. Damn M$.

Going after Apple... (3, Funny)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859772)

"But boss - you said copy Apple, and Apple made sure their expensive little box didn't work on Microsoft Operating Systems..."

Surprise surprise, it's not PS3 compatible... (1)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859804)

... though whether it's down to Microsoft or Sony is unknown. But according to this article [gizmodo.com] it's detected as an 'Unknown USB Device' by the PS3.

New Apple Ad (1)

elmedico27 (931070) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859824)

I can see the new Apple ad now:

iPwned

Pics (1)

justkarl (775856) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859828)

That's some nice picture of some chick being traumatised from what seems to be the waist down. I hope that picture dosen't run through the whole install. A little disturbing!

not sure this all that exciting (1)

objwiz (166131) | more than 7 years ago | (#16859888)

Not sure this all that exciting. Vista wont be released to the general masses until Jan 2007. Microsoft estimates around 10% adoption rate, mostly from the sale of new computers. So most people wont be affected.

NSFW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16859914)

The Zune installer should give you a splash screen before the orgasmic girl and 2 making out that makes sure you know its NSFW. haha, gg M$
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