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Gamestop To Be Resupplied With PS3, Wii

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the more-next-gen-on-the-way dept.

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GameSpot reports that GameStop will be resupplied with Wii and PS3 units within the next few weeks. They have some details on how the two console did in comparison (more games bought with the Wii than the PS3), and point out the best sellers for both systems. From the article: "The executives also recapped the launch performances of the two systems. For the PS3, Sony's Resistance: Fall of Man and Electronic Arts' Madden NFL 07 were the biggest sellers, while Nintendo's The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Ubisoft's Red Steel stood out from the pack of Wii launch titles ... While GameStop and its EB Games brand collectively account for about 25 percent of the US gaming market, the company believes it didn't receive that much of either system's day-one shipments. Executives said that they've never been satisfied with their launch day allocation of any new machine, but added their main concern now is the flow of follow-up shipments — which both Sony and Nintendo have promised will come at a steady pace."

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126 comments

best strategy for getting one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16941042)

So, can someone share their slashdot wisdom and tell us what we need to do to get a wii (at the retail price)? Get up early Sunday morning and go to Walmart? Is Costco a better bet? Call in the morning to ask about restocks? I'm sure someone here as relevant experience getting consoles post-launch when they're still in high demand like this.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (4, Funny)

ENOENT (25325) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941110)

First, learn to play the banjo. Once you have mastered the art of banjo playing, it should be easy to purchase a Wii or PS3.

Unless you already know how to play the banjo, that is.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (5, Funny)

Perseid (660451) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941830)

Nuts to that. I'll just wait for Banjo Hero to come out.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (2, Funny)

MagusSlurpy (592575) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945720)

Hot damn! I bet "Dueling Banjos" from Deliverance will be the final track! I just hope it doesn't make me squeal like a pig. . .

Re:best strategy for getting one? (1)

Perseid (660451) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945756)

The really sad thing is...I'd probably buy that.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (2, Funny)

MagusSlurpy (592575) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945828)

I was following the joke, but, you know, you're right. I would, as well. *sigh*

Re:best strategy for getting one? (1)

Poltras (680608) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943740)

Damn that old tricks did the job for the PS2... but I won't reuse it this time, I promise! *banjo playing*

Re:best strategy for getting one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16941214)

I got my Wii at launch by checking www.ps3seeker.com/wii for supply numbers. As it turns out they were pretty accurate and I ended up waiting in line for 1.5 hours, sipping coffee and laughing at the dozen who slept in the street. Right now, your best bet is to call each store and ask about the new shipments. Ideally, you want to get over yourself and befriend a gamestop employee. This, as it turns out, is a wonderful way to find out about incoming shipments and, if you're friendly enough, have your gamestop buddy knock off a few bucks with his employee discount.

The world is a giant myspace, buddy, and friend requests are easier than you think.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16941340)

Go to your local Toys R Us and ask them to hold one back for you. It's just a regular product to them now, so you won't need to deal with bundles or anything like that. Our local Toys R Us is getting more Wiis today or tomorrow. (I just need more nunchucks!)

Re:best strategy for getting one? (4, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941560)

Relax this holiday season. Wait until after the New Year to get a new console. And if your kid won't stop crying [yahoo.com] , it's time to break out the coal and BBQ the kid.

My strategy (1)

patio11 (857072) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944146)

I've promised two younger brothers that I'll be getting them Wii's for Christmas. One of them told me, specifically, last year "Don't get me a present, just remember me when the Wii comes out". So he got an IOU, and thats coming due this year. The other one is off to college and can't share the machine with him, sadly, so I'm on the hook for those two. I'm also buying a Japanese Wii on the 2nd since I live in Japan and, umm, I want one for me.

My plan is that I'm going to take the Japanese Wii back with me and they can have fun using it over the Christmas vacation when I'll be home (its Wiigeon free for Zelda, and thats the only title that matters, right?). When I go back to Japan, I'll take the Wii back. By that time the stores should be getting their third shipments so they should be able to take the cash I'll give them and get their Wiis without having to wait in line or get shot by somebody wanting to speculate on eBay or whatever the stories of craziness are this year.

Re:My strategy (1)

jamar0303 (896820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944408)

If I use the Japanese Wii in the US does it still connect to Japanese services or does it detect that it's in the US and use US services (I remember virtual console having different line-ups in the US and Japan)? I'm wondering because I just KNOW that Japan will get funky games that the US won't and I'll want to play those games, but I also want the Japanese virtual console lineup because the US lineup isn't so good).

Re:My strategy (1)

iainl (136759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946924)

It's been pretty much confirmed that a US console in the UK gets the US lineup, so I'd say it looks pretty likely.

I'd still want to hear from someone who was successful first, however. Not least because I'd want to know for sure that the Japanese service will accept a non-Japanese credit card to buy the games.

With XBox Live, you can just buy the points cards, so it's not a problem on that platform; I don't know how it works on the Wii yet.

Re:My strategy (1)

jamar0303 (896820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16947936)

YES! I imagine soon there will be services selling Japanese Wii point cards to those with imported consoles like there are sites selling Japanese iTunes cards.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16942022)

Go with a store that everyone else isn't thinking of too. So Best Buy, [insert game store here], and Wallmart are all out. I went to Fry's Electronics (an electronic superstore chain here on the west coast) at about 10pm Saturday night and was the first person in line; there were 150 people already camping at the best buy a block and a half away (and that best buy was to get around 60 units). Anyhow, our line grew to about 6 (for 27 units) until around 5am, when the line began to steadily grow until the store's opening at 9am.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (1)

C0rinthian (770164) | more than 7 years ago | (#16950278)

Circuit City was the same way for me. The Best Buy across the street had probably 100+ people waiting outside when I walked up to CC and was 10th in line.

Ironically, we could see them, and I'm sure they could see us, so I wonder why none of them defected to our side of the street?

Re:best strategy for getting one? (1)

necrognome (236545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946428)

If you live within a reasonable distance of NYC, try visiting the Nintendo World Store. That store and the Times Square ToysRus seem to have been well stocked.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16949920)

Keep the New York media happy. Always a good strategy. Companies get raked over the coals if reporters and media producers in New York can't get the fad toy for their kids right away.

Re:best strategy for getting one? (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 7 years ago | (#16951562)

Well, if you live near Chicago, all of the GameStops and EB Games around here are getting their shipment on Black Friday. The stores open at 7. Even in the malls. Good luck.

O RLY? (5, Funny)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941044)

A store that ran out of an item is getting more of that item?? NO WAI!!!

Re:O RLY? (1)

TrekCycling (468080) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941194)

"Stuff That Matters"

Stores restock when they run out of something.

I'm surprised this isn't on the CNN crawl.

Re:O RLY? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16941332)

YA RLY!

Re:O RLY? (3, Funny)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941370)

NO WII?! YES WII!!

Re:O RLY? (1)

hords (619030) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943790)

The article doesn't even say when they will be getting more PS3s in. My local Gamestop has been telling people there aren't anymore in until after the holidays. I wouldn't think they would say that if they were expecting more shipments. They do expect more shipments for the Wii though.

Re:O RLY? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16945418)

Black Friday. Wii's and (most likely) PS3's at your local GameStop. Very small numbers, but the "not until after the holidays" apparently is proving to only refer to Thanksgiving.

PS3 shipments will continue to be extremely minuscule, while Wii shipments are to be much greater and more frequent.

For a company that has the largest share of the video game market, it is very peculiar that the console manufacturers do not release larger quantities to GameStop. Especially considering that Best Buy has less than half the overall new video game share that GameStop does, it makes even less sense for them to have so many more systems on launch days. Without those critical software and accessory sales, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo don't make much (if any) money. Why not provide the company who is selling the majority of those software titles and accessories with a majority of the systems?

Re:O RLY? (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 7 years ago | (#16951690)

Um, at least around me, ALL Nintendo accessories except for the trays, covers, and bags are sold out.

Resellers (4, Funny)

fatty ding dong (1028344) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941090)

To all of the Ebay resellers that endured week long lines, biting cold, searing heat, slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, all for ownership of a PS3 that they might sell it for 400% of retail price before Christmas, I say unto thee: Ha ha! Pwn3d n00bz!

Re:Resellers (2, Informative)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942440)

To all of the Ebay resellers that endured week long lines, biting cold, searing heat, slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, all for ownership of a PS3 that they might sell it for 400% of retail price before Christmas, I say unto thee: Ha ha! Pwn3d n00bz!

Nah. The shipments will likely be very small, on the order of 10 or fewer consoles per store (more likely around 2-5 consoles). Given the demand and Sony's inability to satisfy, I think the ebayers will be fine at least through the holiday season and possibly as long as next spring.

We saw what happened when Microsoft had a problem with chip suppliers for the Xbox 360. That was just memory chips. Sony's having a problem getting blue lasers for the BD drives as well as suffering under low yields for Cell chips (some reports [com.com] have yields as low as 10-20%, though I doubt it's truly that bad). It will take a miracle for Sony to hit their estimate of 2 million consoles on the market by end of this year, and even if they do a fair number of those will fall after the holiday.

Re: Oh Really? (1)

tompaulco (629533) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943034)

I see ebay auctions with only a few minutes left closing in on the low 800s now. By the end of next week, ebayers probably won't be able to get retail for one.

Re: Oh Really? (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943204)

I see ebay auctions with only a few minutes left closing in on the low 800s now. By the end of next week, ebayers probably won't be able to get retail for one.

Just wait. There's an ebb and flow to these things. We're past the big launch weekend so supplies are high (in the hands of ebayers). As those supplies start to thin out, and with Sony unable to adequately restock retailers, and with breeders getting crazy as the holidays draw closer and closer and they still haven't gotten little Johnny his PS3 yet so he'll love them, ebay auction prices will go back up. They'll go down again after the holiday but should still remain somewhat above retail until Sony can fill the retail channels.

If you're sitting on a PS3 that you're going to ebay, I'd suggest you hold onto it for a week or two before putting up your auction. You're gambling against Sony's inability to fill the market, and the closer you get to Christmas the higher your potential selling price will be. Sell now and get a "guaranteed" $800-900, or wait and maybe get $1500+ but risk getting less than retail if Sony pulls a miracle out of their ass.

Re: Oh Really? (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 7 years ago | (#16948634)

"By the end of next week, ebayers probably won't be able to get retail for one."

Of course. Remember, this is eBay, would you place a bid on "Only $599.99 ($120 shipping and handling)?"

Re:Resellers (1)

justchris (802302) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943896)

To be fair, Sony reported about two weeks before launch that their blue laser production was back up to what they originally planned. I don't know if the Cell yields have improved any, though.

Whew - almost an hour passed w/o a Wii article! (0, Offtopic)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941118)

Whew - almost an hour passed without a random Wii article! Thank god we have another... (Somewhere, a Nintendo PR exec is smiling.)

Re:Whew - almost an hour passed w/o a Wii article! (4, Funny)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941258)

Well at least it wasn't footnoted: "Retailers dread getting in the evil PS3 from the demon company Sony whose black-magical DRM-Rootkit will steal your soul and make you gnaw on your grandmother's unearthed bones BWA HA HA HA HA HA. Remember, if you buy a PS3, you make God cry - Love, Zonk."

The surprises keep coming fast and furious here boy-howdy.

Re:Whew - almost an hour passed w/o a Wii article! (1)

AliasTheRoot (171859) | more than 7 years ago | (#16948994)

I object to the disparaging remark about gnawing on your grandmothers bones.

Re:Whew - almost an hour passed w/o a Wii article! (1)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16952592)

I did mentioned that they were unearthed. She wasn't alive after all - that would be crass.

Just Today... (4, Insightful)

spoonboy42 (146048) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941132)

Today I went to a local EB and a Gamestop, and the word seems to be that they'll get a new batch of Wiis on Friday. This sounded good, until I realized just what Friday this Friday is. I'm debating over whether it's worth fighting an army of irate grandmothers to get mine this week.

Re:Just Today... (2, Insightful)

Control Group (105494) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941242)

This very fact is what had me pull the trigger on hitting eBay for one. I was all set to wait it out...and then it occurred to me that my plan was to go out at 4:30 AM on Black Friday to wrestle with a screaming horde of deal-seeking madwomen intent on buying the perfect gift for spoiled little Geoffrey and armed with banshee wails and mama bear claws.

From that point of view, the $120 premium I paid to have it delivered to my apartment tomorrow suddenly seemed far more reasonable.

Re:Just Today... (4, Insightful)

brkello (642429) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941532)

Or you could just wait a week after that and not blow $120 on something that is constantly being produced. I seriously don't understand people who will wait in line or pay above the retail price for what will most likely be the most problem/bug prone verson of the unit. You are also legitimizing the whole buy it/ebay it which is bad enough on its own.

For running free software (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942388)

I seriously don't understand people who will wait in line or pay above the retail price for what will most likely be the most problem/bug prone verson of the unit.

Earlier versions of closed video game consoles generally have more easily accessible holes in their protection, allowing the use of free software or other freeware. Compare an early Xbox console to an Xbox version 1.6 [xbox-linux.org] , or compare a PSP with firmware 1.50 to a PSP with firmware 2.81 [wikipedia.org] . Even when the manufacturer supports the use of free software, as was the case with some PlayStation 2 consoles, the capability is often discontinued: Sony stopped making Linux kits for the PS2 and stopped making the full-size PS2 that was compatible with the hard drive. It remains to be seen how long Sony will maintain the "Other OS" installer for the PLAYSTATION 3 console.

Re:For running free software (1)

Rydia (556444) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943696)

This comment demands the inclusion of a (+1, Very Marginally Important Trivia).

Re:For running free software (2, Insightful)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944064)

The real reason that Sony built this into the PS3 was to avoid import tariffs. Their claim is that since you can run Linux (or whatever), the machine is technically a "computer". Of course, it's a sham: the "Other OS" feature is a virtualized environment that will (no doubt) be clamped down to a bare minimum of usefulness.

There is a bright side, however. If various governments (perhaps EU- or Nordic-types) get annoyed at these shenanigans, it could spur legislation that defines a computer as a computing device where the user has total documentation and control over the hardware. This would be a huge win for Free Software. I realize it's not likely, but it's a scenario we should work towards.

Re:For running free software (1)

(A)*(B)!0_- (888552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16952750)

Get your facts straight!
"The real reason that Sony built this into the PS3 was to avoid import tariffs. Their claim is that since you can run Linux (or whatever), the machine is technically a "computer". Of course, it's a sham: the "Other OS" feature is a virtualized environment that will (no doubt) be clamped down to a bare minimum of usefulness."
Really? Because the PS2 ran Linux and Sony tried to push the idea that it was a computer and it was found not to be in a court ruling, resulting in Sony being denied the exclusion.

So no, the PS3 is not considered a computer just as the PS2 wasn't. REFERENCE [gamepro.com]

Re:For running free software (1)

NuShrike (561140) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944162)

First and 2nd gen Playstation hardware were really plagued with faulty drive units from PS1 through PS2 generations. Remember the drive unit melting/wearing through the plastic rails of the PS1 so you had to flip it upside down to squeeze a bit more life out of it?

Remember the current big-size PS2 problems where the drive stops recognizing DVDs and well as PS2 games?

I rather wait for 3rd rev hardware, or something later, that's not going to quit on me for these early adopter prices than pin hopes they're not going to sneaky-background-flash upgrade the firmware protection like their CD protection schemes.

Re:For running free software (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16947814)

Oh boo hoo, you're going to have to wait an extra 3 weeks to 6 months to not pay for their software.

Re:Just Today... (1)

tknd (979052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942464)

I seriously don't understand people who will wait in line or pay above the retail price for what will most likely be the most problem/bug prone verson of the unit.
Supply and Demand [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Just Today... (2, Insightful)

Skreems (598317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942944)

Just last weekend I bought a PS2 for $120. I loaded up on games that had won Game Of The Year for $20 each from the "classics" section of Best Buy. Not only do I get many, many hours of top quality entertainment, but I get to laugh at jackasses who blow huge amounts of money on a system with maybe 2 good games. Summary: people are stupid.

Re:Just Today... (1)

Kyro (302315) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943044)

I did a similar thing except i got a Gamecube for $99 AUS and got heaps of new and used games for $30-$50 AUS each. I don't have an HDTV so the graphics on the gamecube (and my old PS2) look pretty damn good to me. I might get an xbox360 when it drops down in price and noise, and i'll probably get a wii when i've exhausted the library of GC games available. New GC games will get even lower in price after the wii has been out for a while.

Re:Just Today... (1)

ZzzzSleep (606571) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943630)

Just curious, where in .au are you buying gamecube games? Most shops near me (Melbourne) seem to have drastically scaled back their selections.

Re:Just Today... (1)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 7 years ago | (#16950530)

I assume people that go to movie theatres and buy books before they hit paperback are also stupid?

Or is it possible that someone would rather pay $50 to play a game now rather than wait a year or two?

Re:Just Today... (2, Insightful)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 7 years ago | (#16951848)

I bet all your friends love to talk about the TV reruns at the water-cooler too. Buying a game once it hits the discount rack also maximizes the number of people you'll find to play online... er if your game actually supported online play.

Playing Video games is more then just sitting in a dark room playing by yourself. Much of today's games, and more specifically today's consoles are based around multiplayer and beyond that a gaming community. Even if you only play single player adventure games the new crop of consoles brings the community aspect into it as well by allowing you to view your each others stats, and communicate with other gamers easily. Also many games are taking advantage of this new connectivity by creating new multiplayer experiences. For instance the Japanese RPG "Enchanted Arms" would normally be just a single player experience, but the game features an online option where you can pit the customized and leveled up members of your party against that of another gamer... Similarly Saint's Row which is an open ended GTA style game allows you to go online to create your own gang wars, etc.

With the added attention to the online and community aspects it becomes important to even casual gamers to own the game when it first comes out, much like seeing a TV show on the first night it airs, or seeing a movie the first week it opens. There an excitement about it and the community surrounding it is at it's peak. Some games will stay strong for quite some time, the Counter Strikes and Halos, etc. But most games will fizzle out after the first month or two, leaving you back to playing with yourself or constantly searching the servers hoping to find ANYONE to play with as opposed to when the game was recently released and you had your choice of opponents and could find others who you enjoyed playing with.

Entertainment is generally hollow unless you have someone to share the experience with, even if that form of sharing is recounting the experience to someone else after the fact.

Re:Just Today... (1)

Control Group (105494) | more than 7 years ago | (#16948954)

Or, I could decide that having the console and at least two games I want to play in time for Thanksgiving, so I can play with my family on one of the few occasions we're all in the same place at the same time is worth spending the extra ~0.001% of my annual household income on. And maybe the increased risk of having to re-buy the console, thereby losing ~0.003% of my annual household income is acceptable for that reward.

For fuck's sake, this is why I make money - so I can spend it on stuff I want.

Re:Just Today... (1)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941322)

Oh - yes. To those who thought line-shootings were bad, here comes the estrogen army. You don't dare get in the way of a breeder with a mission: "To save my Bobby's Christmas". Be afraid - be very very afraid

Re:Just Today... (1)

mabhatter654 (561290) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941666)

really, the line shootings were just regular street thugs cashing in on long lines of people, in the middle of the night, loaded with cash, planning to pay for a $600+ toy. I'm surprised due to flagrant lack of security by the retailers there weren't MORE line muggings.. maybe the human race isn't as bad as I thought?

Re:Just Today... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16952296)

Well, maybe, just maybe, Little Bobby is more deserving of the console than some overpaid IT professional with loads of spare cash he has nothing better to do with than blow on a whim to get the latest gadget to fill his empty life for another week? Hmm?

Re:Just Today... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16941388)

My local GameStop got 9 new in this morning - picked it up after waiting around for an hour for it to be accounted for with the rest of the new delivery and unpacked :)

Re:Just Today... (1)

Knetzar (698216) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941602)

I can see deal seakers at the mall and at big retailers, but I doubt any will go to a strip mall with only a few stores in it.

Re:Just Today... (1)

scoopr (849708) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946196)

If you are like me, and have never heard of "Black friday" which this Friday apparently is, wikipedia tells this [wikipedia.org] :
Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving in the United States, is historically one of the busiest retail shopping days of the year. Many consider it the "official" beginning to the holiday season. Most retailers will open very early and usually provide massive discounts on their products.

Riiiight (2, Interesting)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941192)

Wii's I can believe - one gamestop got a few in today - but the rest are saying February for the PS3. If by weeks you mean months - then yes - I can stop trolling for typos.

Re:Riiiight (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941702)

Yeah, that sounds right. Sony isn't going to make and sell any more PS3s until February.

Wait, no, that doesn't sound right at all. A very slow flow I'll believe, but none for months just isn't plausible. Unless their manufacturing facilities blew up it can't possibly be true.

Resupply may be meager (1)

Rejemy (78237) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941304)

My local Redmond Bear Creek GameStop claimed they would be getting "very few" Wii systems on Friday, probably around 5 or 6. I'll try again after the holidays.

Re:Resupply may be meager (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942474)

My local Redmond Bear Creek GameStop claimed they would be getting "very few" Wii systems on Friday, probably around 5 or 6. I'll try again after the holidays.

If you're in Redmond, you should make friends with an NOA employee or DigiPen student (DigiPen students need an NOA employee for access to the store, but if they attend DigiPen then it's a safe bet that they know at least one NOA employee). The store discount isn't much, but Nintendo is good about having stock on hand for employees and friends/family.

Disclaimer: I'm not an NOA employee, but I have a friend who is who helped me get my Wii yesterday.

Re:Resupply may be meager (1)

Rejemy (78237) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942518)

Ha, thanks, I guess I'll loiter around outside the NOA building until someone takes pity or calls security. :)

Redmond folks = lucky? (1)

jchenx (267053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946684)

For those of us who live or work in Redmond, it's a nice boost to have two out of the three console makers in our backyard. If you're a DigiPen student, then chances are you know some folks from NOA and MS, meaning access to both their company stores. Lucky!

Re:Redmond folks = lucky? (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946966)

For those of us who live or work in Redmond, it's a nice boost to have two out of the three console makers in our backyard. If you're a DigiPen student, then chances are you know some folks from NOA and MS, meaning access to both their company stores. Lucky!

And then there's the fact that the two company stores are within a block of each other, and surrounded by both Nintendo and Microsoft buildings.

Whoa (4, Funny)

-kertrats- (718219) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941406)

Gamespot reports that Gamestop...*blink*

Anyone else had it up to here? (-1, Troll)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941418)

Fuck Xmas. The hard-core would have made for a sell-out on launch day on fucking EARTH DAY so fuck all the manufactureres in the EAR for pandering to the Xmas bullshit. A rumored to be good-guy who gets nailed to a tree's birth is so on-message with consumer electronics. Since the after T-day shoppers are fucked - why bother with this drama at all?

Put them out in the summer and get on with fucking business. Gamers want to play - not be the latest co-stars in My mommy cornholed santa and all I got was a Dreamcast - rated PG-13.

I started buying new consoles when the game I wanted was released, and ya know what? I had no problems finding my PSP at retail price. Granted Zelda fans are fucked, but if you bid on eBay you're part of the problem.

news? (2, Informative)

Toridas (742267) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941448)

So does this mean only Gamestop will be getting new systems? It seems kind of obvious to me, "Wii and PS3 to ship more units"

I am amazed! (-1, Redundant)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941466)

This is stunning news! The first shipment of the two newest, hottest consoles have sold out, and retailers who have sold out plan to get more!

I never would have expected this!

Next we'll see a story on sciece.slashdot.org "Sun expected to rise again tomorrow!"

Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (4, Interesting)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941642)

While GameStop and its EB Games brand collectively account for about 25 percent of the US gaming market, the company believes it didn't receive that much of either system's day-one shipments.

They won't get more than 25% of the ongoing shipments either. They used to be a specialty retailer that added excellent customer service to the product you could get elsewhere. Recently, the bent over backwards to please the game publishers under the mistaken impression that if they didn't give in to their demands the publishers would give preferential treatment to the big guys (Wal-Mart, Target, etc...). Now that they don't offer any additional value, the publishers not only don't need them, but they actually have incentive to push them out of the market to reduce used game sales. Now, they get crappy allotments, they have to take pre-orders on everything because they can't return unsold merchandise to the distributor, they can't take returns from their customers for the same reason, and instead of being helpful the employees are reduced to bullying their customers in order to meet the quotas that keep the company in the black. It's only a matter of time. In the meantime, you may as well shop for your gaming gear at Wal-Mart, because you'll get equivalent service, and Wal-Mart has better stock levels.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

cwj123 (16058) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942076)

I'm not too sure that WalMart necessarily has better stock levels (even though they have a huge market presence). Over a week after GoW came out all 3 Walmart's in my area were still sold out. I had to drive about a hour to the closest GameStop who happened to have a bunch of copies in stock. Now I'm not sure what this says exactly for GameStop's ability to move product, but the fact that they still had it in stock when my only other alternative (that's the problem with living in a town w/ only 10k people) was still sold out and uncertain as to when they would recieve more copies means that they'll be in business for a little while to come.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

wooden pickle (1006975) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942356)

O RLY?

GameStop Sales Nearly Double [gamespot.com]

I've had no problem returning anything, EVER. Even with no receipt.

Any time I go in to a GameStop or EB Games, I stay about 20 minutes longer than I intended because I end up chatting with the employees about what's out/fun/sucks.

And I'm pretty sure preorders exist so people like me reserve Gears of War there rather than try my luck getting it at Fry's or Best Buy, where I still have not seen a copy. Not to mention I walked in to EB Games at 10:00 on Sunday to pick up my preordered Wii, rather than camp out at Best Buy.

Avoiding the long lines and crowds at a big box is nice too.

I really don't think publishers care too much about the used gaming market anyway. I buy more games knowing I can sell them. And I rarely buy used games anyways since the new copy is typically only 5 bucks more. For new releases anyway. And I imagine your Microsofts realize that they'll be able to market the XBox catalog as a feature of the 360 for some time, knowing those title will actually be available.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (4, Interesting)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943006)

O RLY?

Is that English?

I've had no problem returning anything, EVER. Even with no receipt.

Either you've never opened the package, or you've never tried to return anything.

I used to shop at EB frequently. I'd spend thousands of dollars per year in my local store, and had friendly conversations with the employees. Then it changed. The return policy changed to exchanges for the same title only if the package was opened. The PC game selection dwindled. The manager admitted they sometimes had to turn away customers on release days if they didn't have a pre-order even if they had enough copies in stock in order to help convince the customer that they should pre-order next time.

And I'm pretty sure preorders exist so people like me reserve Gears of War there rather than try my luck getting it at Fry's or Best Buy

I'm 100% sure that you're wrong. Pre-orders exist because, unlike with every other form of media, the store cannot return unsold copies. If they could, they'd order more than enough and send back the rest (probably just the discs, and trash the packaging. Similar to how bookstores just send back the covers). Since it costs between $2 and $3 to print, press, and package a game and the associated materials, there is no reason not to make extras and allow returns minus the $3 cost.... But they don't and thus you have to pre-order because a small retailer like Gamestop can't take the hit if a $60 title doesn't sell.

Pre-orders for consoles are different than pre-orders for games. The only reason they sell pre-orders for hardware is to get you in the store twice. You're very likely to buy something each time, and since they make almost no margin on the hardware itself they need the extra boost. Otherwise it doesn't matter to them if you line up for the release, or if you line up for the pre-order. Both would have sold out in minutes anyway. As an added benefit, if they don't get enough units to cover your pre-order, they've still got you locked in as a customer and prevent the sale (with the profitable associated add-ons) from going to a competitor.

Additionally, it is almost never the case that the bulk of a game's sales occur on release day. Only super-hyped games have front-loaded sales, and the super hyped games are exactly the titles that are in stock in large quantites at Wal-Mart and Target. (Why would you try Fry's or BestBuy? Pick a retailer with high volume, or in the case of BestBuy, one that doesn't suck.) To use your Gears of War example, my local Target had twenty copies in stock the day after release. Purchasing one was no big deal.

Not to mention I walked in to EB Games at 10:00 on Sunday to pick up my preordered Wii, rather than camp out at Best Buy.

How long did you camp out for the pre-order?

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

wooden pickle (1006975) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944944)

You got me. I've never returned anything.

Wal Mart never gets or puts stuff out on release day around here. Target is sold out by the time I'm off work. 20 copies of something ain't that many. So having the preorder is nice.

And you can get your preorder at GameStop/EBGames refunded, as I have done on several occasions. Have you never preordered anything?

I camped out for all of 10 minutes at EBGames in a mall. For some reason, not many people thought of the mall.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

DDLKermit007 (911046) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945660)

O RLY? is 4chan.org slang thats making it's rounds. I love it when I see people associating themselves with b-tards that came up with the meme.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

C0rinthian (770164) | more than 7 years ago | (#16950500)

Once that little phrase hit the WoW forums, it was all over.

Hell, there's an owl in the game named "O'reily"

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

MeanderingMind (884641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16950220)

How long did you camp out for the pre-order?


I arrived at the Gamestop near my work 4 minutes after they opened and got 7th in line for preorders. It made Saturday night much more relaxing I assure you.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944096)

It's generally never a good idea to shop at places like Wal-Mart. I prefer my local economy be controlled (mostly) by those who live here, not a handful of super-rich people.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16944802)

Hahah, right, Gamestop is controlled by people who live in your city. I'm sure you think that they and EB Games are competing, as well.

Re:Gamestop is dead... It's only a matter of time. (1)

y5 (993724) | more than 7 years ago | (#16953128)

That might be true with systems, but not with games. And unless the retailer is selling the console above the suggested retail price, they make 0$ profit on systems. Also, consider that many consoles purchased at Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc will be traded in to Gamestop to be resold for 20-30$ (US) less than the new units. The large retailers don't sell pre-owned items, which is a VERY profitable part of EB/GS business. So if you're basing your prediction on the number of new consoles Gamestop is receiving, then no, Gamestop is not dead.

Supply (1)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#16941828)

Supply is the greatest challenge facing both of these systems in the Console War largely because they both can (probably) sell any system they can ship because of how high the demand for the systems are; with it being "Christmas" and they're shiny and new they're in demand.

Typically, in the November/December timeframe a system will sell 4 to 6 times as many units as it will sell in any other 2 months in a year ( http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=PS2 &name2=&type=0 [vgcharts.org] ); not having enough units at this time of year can be a mistake that will take a year to recover from.

Wii topic background (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942560)

Can anyone tell me if they get dark blue on black for the Wii topic page? I can't read a damn thing of the article intro.

Re:Wii topic background (1)

DorkusMasterus (931246) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945894)

I'm getting it for both the Wii and the Playstation topics, perhaps more... I don't know what's up with that...

25% are there really that many suckers out there (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942674)

I really cant fathom that EB and Gamestop control 25% of the gaming public. If 1 in 4 people really are stupid enough to take 1/10 the resale value on their games to buy one at 15% more than they can get them elsewhere, then I can start to understand Bill O'Reiley's comments regarding gamers.

Wake up folks, EB and Gamestop are the video game equivalent of a pawn shop. Its there for the sole purpose of taking advantage of kids that dont know better, the poor or people with way more money than sense.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16944444)

Its there for the sole purpose of taking advantage of kids that dont know better, the poor or people with way more money than sense.

While I'll agree some locally owned places offer better trade-in prices, there's a lot of areas where there's no other way to sell used games, except for selling them between friends. My friends from college & I usually trade our games amongst each other until we've all played what we want, and then the original buyer will trade them in for some 'new' games...

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

iainl (136759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946904)

There's no other way to sell used games? That's sad. Hopefully, one day your country will have its very own branch of eBay, however.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#16949252)

It's not worth the time and hassle for me to use eBay. It also helps that I only trade in stinkers that I shouldn't have purchased in the first place. No one wants a stinker, but EB will still take them off my hands.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

iainl (136759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16950272)

Ah, fair enough then. I try to avoid ending up with too many stinkers, but when I traded in my XBox 1 and armfuls of games for my 360, I think I got more for the stuff than I would have through eBay.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#16952768)

I don't normally pick up too many, but I have a nasty habit of purchasing games that my wife wants when I know that she isn't going to play them for more than a few days. I sold off five of them for the Wii because they were offering an additional 20% towards preorders. Easy, quick and I was going to be there anyways.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16945540)

The problem with your thinking is that you are presuming everyone has huge sums of money for games. Most people don't. GameStop does not give 1/10 the resale value on games unless the sales rate for that title has plummeted while quantities of the game has soared. It's much closer to 1/2 the resale value. There are always places that will undercut MSRP for games, and thus not make any profit on them. But those places don't offer trade-ins, which by the way generated nearly $1 billion in credit for customers last year. That's $1 billion that could not have been spent otherwise.

The people with more money than sense are the ones who buy systems at way above retail from eBay. If you think that GameStop is "taking advantage" of those people, then I'm terribly sorry you don't grasp the concept of a company being in business to make money. You don't become the largest video game retailer in the country by not providing a great service that benefits your customers. I think you've probably either never been to a GameStop/EB Games, or don't know at all how the trade-in and used system there works.

Re:25% are there really that many suckers out ther (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16947962)

I do agree that even considering bringing your used games to EB/Gamestop should warrant a few bullet holes in your kneecaps, but there have been occasions where I'll find a gem of a game in the used area for like $5.00. This is why I frequent EB/Gamestops in my area. I don't know about that 15% stat, but around my neck of the woods Walmart is the cheapest retailer, but only by about $0.30.

Holding Their Wiis? (1)

BumBiscuit (744070) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942910)

There are a couple of GameStop and EB Games locations in my neck of the woods that claim to have already received a second shipment of Wiis, but they aren't selling them. Instead, they're holding on to their supply for Black Friday.

I have to wonder whether they really have been resupplied, or if they're just putting it out there to draw in customers.

Even if they do have stock, I can't say I really understand the point of holding on to it. The only people who are likely to find out that GameStop has consoles are the gamers who have been poking their heads into every location and asking daily. Sure, they might come back Friday and buy a Wii, but they would just as soon have bought it today.

Meanwhile, the faceless shopping hordes will probably remain ignorant that GameStop has consoles in stock. If they're looking to get somebody a Wii for Christmas, they were likely going to head to a few specialty gaming shops anyway. So GameStop gets the same customer flow as they would otherwise, but manage to piss off their customer base in the meantime.

Not that I'm bitter...

Re:Holding Their Wiis? (1)

512k (125874) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943040)

If they sell them now, an employee is going to have to spend his time keeping tabs on the Wii situation, for phone inqueries, people walking in the door, people camping out etc..

if they wait untill friday, they can just say NO, untill then.

And murphys law says that a customer will call on the phone from the other side of the mall, finds out that one Wii is in stock, and while the clerk on the phone has his back turned, clerk2 sells the Wii to a customer in the store. Customer one will come running in, and flip out, when their Wii isn't availible, and clerk 1 didn't even have time to ask clerk2 what happened to the last Wii.

Re:Holding Their Wiis? (1)

affinity (118397) | more than 7 years ago | (#16943294)

If they are "Holding their Wii's" then, it's good plan as they will sell it friday or the day after.
The quanity is so little that it doesn't matter. However if they have some stock on Friday then "word of mouth" will help them, as other stores sell out more quickly. Their non-traditional customer may become repeat in the following days looking for thier "Wii".
As for pissing off traditional customers, the traditional customers already know they don't have any now, but there is a very good chance they can get their early on "Black Friday" to pick one up. As GameStop is not the destination of the the "Masses" (aka Wally World). Getting there earlier and picking up a "Wii" should be quick and painless.

I'm rambling at dinner sorry.. :D
I'm getting my son a cheap gamecube for christmas...so in a year or so I can get him the Wii v2....PS2 is just alittle to mature for him...

Re:Holding Their Wiis? (1)

Maul (83993) | more than 7 years ago | (#16949418)

Of course. They want people to come in to the store with the intent of getting a Wii or PS3, but since they'll sell out as soon as they open, will try to push other stuff on shoppers using the consoles as bait.

News of the Obvious (4, Funny)

jalefkowit (101585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16942988)

Video game store to receive shipment of video games! Film at 11!

PS3's already in stores (and gone again) (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16945716)

My local GameStop (Hays, KS) already got more PS3's. I don't know how many, but two of my friends that didn't get their pre-orders filled on launch picked up theirs this evening.

Re:PS3's already in stores (and gone again) (1)

Brigade (974884) | more than 7 years ago | (#16946720)

Yes, Gamestops are getting resupplied with PS3s .. but only enough to cover pre-orders. In fact, in my store we got in two today (for the last two pre-orders) and are under orders that if both don't get picked up (and paid off) the systems get shipped to another store to cover pre-orders that haven't been filled (yet). We're not going to see a 'free' shipment of PS3's until next year .. Sony's pre-launch promises are bunk (because the yields on working Cells are terrible). We're expecting to get in Wii's later today/tonight, and they'll go on sale Friday (since we're closed on Thursday for the holiday). We did get a shipment of Zelda's in yesterday, but those flew off the racks as fast as they were put up. Wii-motes and Joysticks are the same story (as soon as they're on the floor they're gone). I've told parents personally that if they're shopping for Christmas, they can afford to wait for Wii's (we're expecting shipments every week, and Nintendo has always been good about keeping up stock post-launch) .. Those hunting for a Sony .. well .. that's a different story.

Gamestop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16951844)

Many gamestops have gotten additional Wii in the past few days but have been forbidden from selling them until Black Friday. That's how they know they'll have more "after the holiday." This is straight from a store manager.
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