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Giant Mexican Telescope Launched

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the they're-watching-you dept.

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SilentOneNCW writes "A new telescope has been unveiled in Mexico by President Vicente Fox. The Large Millimeter Telescope will be used to pick up electromagnetic radiation known as millimetre waves emitted 13 billion years ago, when the first stars burst into existence, astrophysicists say. The $128M telescope is a joint project between Mexico and the US. With an antenna diameter of 164 feet, the LMT dwarfs existing millimetre-wave telescopes and should be able to pick up signals from the faintest objects in outer space."

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Mexican scientists must be humble (5, Funny)

Salvance (1014001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976780)

If they are trying to impress people with its size, you'd think they'd come up with a better name than "The Large Millimeter Telescope".

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (2, Funny)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976804)

You have never seen a Mexican Millimeter I can see...

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (2, Funny)

NerveGas (168686) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977500)

A Mexican Millimeter? Is that when it's really a millimeter in Mexico, but only worth a few micrometers in the U.S.?

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977558)

Actually, it's the SI unit for measuring Mexican Waves [bbc.co.uk]

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (4, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976820)

The Mucho Grande Telescope? Sounds like something you get at Taco Bell, either off the menu or in the restroom.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977184)

Telescope Surpeme? Si!

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977228)

well what do you expect from wetbacks anyways and their primitive el estupido language? lol

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

cool_arrow (881921) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978974)

Hey Einstein, if they're still in Mexico their backs are still dry.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16979362)

you are primitive, no racism here please.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

Ruff_ilb (769396) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977690)

Looks like someone decided to Supersize that order.

Why the racism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977814)

Mucho Grande/Taco Bell/bathroom.. really, now, this is offensive and racist. I am shocked to see how it has been promoted.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (4, Insightful)

Simon Garlick (104721) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978820)

The reality that an underdeveloped country like Mexico is placing such a high importance on scientific research while the the United States of Jesusland lobotomizes itself really burns, doesn't it? A Third World country is trying to work out how the Universe works while the USA is teaching its children that everything was created by an invisible superhero who lives in the sky.

But don't let me interrupt you. Please continue making jokes about Taco Bell.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

Barkmullz (594479) | more than 7 years ago | (#16979518)


Even though I agree with your post in general, Mexico is not [nationsonline.org] considered a third world contry. According to Wikipedia, Mexico is a Newly Industrialized Country [wikipedia.org] (NIC). This may not matter much, but I think it weakens your argument somewhat.

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

wwwillem (253720) | more than 7 years ago | (#16979484)

Do you want to supersize your telescope ???

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

sporkme (983186) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976868)

Giant Mexican anything is an alarming headline! At first I thought a new mutated species of something had been discovered, and was set to enslave us.
TFA:
The Large Millimeter Telescope (LMT), which cost $120m, was partly funded by the US.
What other space and astrology projects does Mexico host?

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (2, Informative)

moco (222985) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977192)

For starters, UNAM, the largest university in mexico has it's institute of astronomy here [astroscu.unam.mx] .

There are lots of observatories around mexico, it seems they like astronomy because of all that prehispanic tradition. Anyway, i live in mexico and this telescope was big news last night. The name in spanish is "Gran Telescopio Milimetrico" which translates better (IMO) to "Great Milimetric Telescope".

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

genooma (856335) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977516)

I think that "Big Milimetric Telescope" would be less ambiguous than "great" in the context it was used.

Launched -- How? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16976924)

The telescope is built on the 4,580m (15,026ft) summit of an extinct volcano called Sierra Negra - the fifth highest peak in Mexico


Oh, so they plan to use that old extinct volcano comes to life and launches the telescope propulsion technique. Isn't that kind of optimitistic?

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977154)

Well, in Spanish, it would be the "Telescopio Milímetro Grande", which sounds much more impressive.

Gran Teslescopio Milimétrico (1)

Baikala (564096) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977226)

"Gran Teslescopio Milimétrico" is his official name in Spanish. You can lern more about it in the official site [lmtgtm.org] (english version)

Re:Gran Teslescopio Milimétrico (1)

wolenczak (517857) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978208)

it's telescopio

Re:Mexican scientists must be humble (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977496)

If they are trying to impress people with its size, you'd think they'd come up with a better name than "The Large Millimeter Telescope".

Some millimeters are longer than others? No wonder we kept losing Mars probes in the 90's.
     

Two questions (0)

0jjjjjjjjjj0 (1024211) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976848)

From the article ...

President Fox said it would "put Mexico in the scientific and investigative vanguard in this field".

What's the difference between 'vanguard' and 'forefront' with regard to radio-telescopy?

The telescope is built on the 4,580m (15,026ft) summit of an extinct volcano called Sierra Negra - the fifth highest peak in Mexico.

How long has this volcano been 'extinct' for?

Bonus if the orbit decays... (3, Funny)

Asshat Canada (804093) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976858)

The Telescope will break open on reentry and spill out tonnes of delicious CANDY!

Re:Bonus if the orbit decays... (3, Funny)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977144)

It isn't in orbit and never will be unless the volcano it is bolted to erupts.

Re:Bonus if the orbit decays... (1)

Asshat Canada (804093) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977992)

Whatever. 'Facts' don't prove anything.

Huge Cloth (4, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976906)

They unveiled that monster? They must have lots of cloth if they were able to veil something of that size.

Re:Huge Cloth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977148)

> They must have lots of cloth if they were able to veil something of that size.

They recycled all their velvet paintings.

Re: WOW... what a great outgoing debate... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16978104)

I've never been a regular in slashdot...

And with the quality of the comments in this thread I think I'll never be...

For stupids:

1. Gran Telescopio Milimetrico.... translated to Large Milimetric Telescope... get a clue...
Great Millimeter Telescope is not a proper translation... it must have been made by a gringo that believes "cerveza" sounds funny...

2. The telescope was "unveiled" because during construction it was pointing upwards. They "unveiled" it because for inauguration it was made to point to one side.

And furthermore (1)

roystgnr (4015) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978808)

Parrots are not native to geographies where fjords are to be found, and so are unlikely to pine for them.

Frogs lack both the intelligence and the proper vocal cords to form human speech, much less to sing "Hello my lady, hello my darling..."

When attempting to inform another person of an easily misunderstood name, in a real conversation one would rapidly devise unambiguous statements such as "The name of the player on first base is spelled H - U." to avoid any confusion.

If anyone has any additional jokes that they would like Mr. Anonymous Coward or me to suck all the life out of, just let us know.

Grrr! (2, Funny)

Mikachu (972457) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976926)

The telescope is built on the 4,580m (15,026ft) summit of an extinct volcano called Sierra Negra - the fifth highest peak in Mexico.

I'll get you, Powerpuff Girls!

Re:Grrr! (1)

idonthack (883680) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977650)

Mojo Jojo has a Japanese accent, not Mexican.

Re:Grrr! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977872)

*swish*

More like (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978902)

I! Mojo Jojo! shall avenge this intrusion into my lair! Mojo Jojo will DESTROY YOU!

Astronomically scientifically interesting (5, Informative)

0jjjjjjjjjj0 (1024211) | more than 7 years ago | (#16976966)

Actually, it's much more interesting to look at the project's page [lmtgtm.org] than just read an article about it.

Some highlights of the anticipated LMT research are outlined below:
  • * solar-system planetesimals & planets
  • * extra-solar protoplanetary-disks
  • * individual Galactic star-forming regions
  • * the Galactic nucleus
  • * local galaxies
  • * active galactic nuclei
  • * high-redshift dusty starburst galaxies
  • * clusters of galaxies and their large-scale distribution.

This is a rather exciting endeavour for those with interest in anything "out there" as equipment of this magnitude is not readily available. Digging into the "building blocks" of inner and outer space, and everything in between, will no doubt yield some interesting surprises, as Hubble continues to do.

Re:Astronomically scientifically interesting (5, Informative)

NixieBunny (859050) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977238)

I work on a couple telescopes of this type in Arizona, the old NRAO 12 meter scope on Kitt Peak and the 10 meter submillimeter scope on Mt. Graham. See them here. [arizona.edu] It's true that there aren't many scopes of this type available. There are a couple in Europe and one on Mauna Kea in Hawaii.

The NSF has sunk nearly all their money into the ALMA array in Chile, and we get the scraps. That's unfortunate because they'll never let students near the ALMA array, since it will cost gazillions of dollars per hour to operate. So it's nice to see another single-dish millimeter wave scope opening.

How does this compare to the Atacama array? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977046)

I hadn't heard of this Mexican effort before, but I've read a bit about the Atacama Large Millimeter Array [nrao.edu] being built in Chile. Is this a duplicative effort, or is ALMA supposed to be even more capable?

Uh yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977050)

should be able to pick up signals from the faintest objects in outer space

How do you say "We get signal!!!" in Spanish?

Tenemos señal !! (1)

Baikala (564096) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977318)

Tenemos señal !!

Re:Tenemos señal !! (1)

gotem (678274) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978084)

Pantalla principal enciendete
Como están caballeros? Todo lo que sus bases son pertenece a nosotros.
No tienen oportunidad de sobrevivir, hagan su tiempo.

Re:Tenemos señal !! (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978678)

Zero wing has a lot to answer for...

Large millimeters? (4, Funny)

jpellino (202698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977062)

Damn. Here I've been using the regular-sized ones all this time...

I don't think the telescope was "launched"... (2, Informative)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977066)

I don't think the telescope was "launched"; the pic in the article suggests it's a big radio disk attached firmly to the ground.

Re:I don't think the telescope was "launched"... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977758)

I don't think the telescope was "launched"; the pic in the article suggests it's a big radio disk attached firmly to the ground.

I was confused by that too. I guess they mean the project was launched. My first thought was "Mexico has rocket technology???". (Not that Mexicans are incapabale of technical innovation, I just don't recall hearing about any rocket launches they've over done.)

Where would /. be without tedious pedantry? (1)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978912)

I don't think the telescope was "launched"; the pic in the article suggests it's a big radio disk attached firmly to the ground.
So no software has ever been 'launched' either then.

Seti@home (1)

larry2k (592744) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977074)

Think Seti@Mexico. I'm trying to sell my computer because I lost my job thanks to seti@home. (The job part it's true)

Re:Seti@home (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977220)

Are you this guy? [slashdot.org]

Hmmm.... (3, Funny)

pr0nbot (313417) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977170)

Hmm... What could the Mexicans need the world's biggest mirror for...

Re:Hmmm.... (1)

LindseyJ (983603) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977326)

Maybe for picking up milimetre waves, but more likely it's for focusing the sun's rays to cook the wold's largest chalupa. Mmmm...

Re:Hmmm.... (1)

Hugonz (20064) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977860)

Sell it to the japanese...

Giant Mexican Telescoped Launched? (1)

Warg! The Orcs!! (957405) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977172)

Well God bless her and all who sail in her....

Cosmic microwave background radiation? (1)

kiyoshilionz (977589) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977232)

Are they doing the same thing that George Smoot did when he won the Nobel Prize?

He found/mapped out Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, the radiation left over from the expansion and cooling of the universe right after the big bang. It sounds as though the Mexican telescope is doing the same thing...

Re:Cosmic microwave background radiation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977306)

smoot didn't 'find' the cmbr - that was penzias and wilson from bell labs. smoot did make alot of headway in cmbr studies though.

where the lmt will really shine is in starburst galaxies both at present epochs and the early universe. it will use the cmbr at high redshift to study clusters of galaxies, and stuff (through an effect called the sunaeyev-zeldovich effect, though i'm sure i spelled the first name wrong, but you can google 's-z' effect) but i think most of the cmbr studies are being explored right now through a space-based telescepe, WMAP.

Lost in translation (1)

daskrabs (976610) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977246)

I'm sure "Large Millimeter Telescope" is just the crude English translation of a Spanish term meaning "The Anaconda of Astronomy."

Faintest objects indeed (0, Troll)

KanadaKid19 (886639) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977270)

With an antenna diameter of 164 feet, the LMT dwarfs existing millimetre-wave telescopes and should be able to pick up signals from the faintest objects in outer space.
See, it doesn't see anything fainter! Point out something this can't see! Can't? Well then, it must see the faintest objects now, right?

Homeland Security Press Release (2, Funny)

fishthegeek (943099) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977278)

They are probably using it this very second to scan for weaknesses in the American Over-Reactive Border Fence System.

Re:Homeland Security Press Release (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977462)

They are probably using it this very second to scan for weaknesses in the American Over-Reactive Border Fence System.

Over-reactive? Why do we have 12+ million illegals if they are "over-reactive"? Give them all the goddam caffein they want.
   

Re:Homeland Security Press Release (1)

fishthegeek (943099) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978244)

Yeah, and while we're giving them all the caffeine they want, we can finally give the white men all of those minimum-wage jobs cleaning the side of the road that those fraking Mexicans are taking too! The nerve of those people... feeding their families. We should shoot all of 'em.

Will it be allowed to cross the border? (1)

partenon (749418) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977280)

The reason it wasn't launched yet is because they are still trying to get a visa or work-permit to the telescope.

And Yet... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977286)

and yet the telescope being capable of spying on celestial bodies light years away, it has been carefully monitoring the job openning board at the nearest McDonald's on American soil.

Re:And Yet... (2, Funny)

LindseyJ (983603) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977380)

You've got your stereotypes all mixed up, man. Let me lay it out for you:

Black people and White trash work in fast food.
Hispanics work in agriculture and sometimes construction.

Come on man, you gotta do your homework to be a proper racist.

Re:And Yet... (1)

partenon (749418) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978584)

Sorry, I'm not an american (nor a racist) so, I don't know much details about what different people do in US. I was just trying to make a joke w/ the fact that people going from LAC (not just Mexico) to USA isn't allowed in most cases, but everything else is permitted :-)

Houston... (1)

PsyQo (1020321) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977296)

Houston, the burrito has landed!

Don't they have bigger problems? (1, Troll)

Mo B. Dick (100537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977360)

Poverty, crime, and corruption are major problems over there and they are wasting money on a space program? I know if I was running the country and people were trying to leave for the US en masse I would probably focus my attention on domestic issues instead of launching a space program which would be decades behind the most established programs in the US and Russia.

Re:Don't they have bigger problems? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977584)

You mean like creating jobs? Like tech jobs?
If only there was a way to do that, oh well, I guess we will waste money on a space program.

You might want to take 2 seconds and think about how you would implement changes to get a decent income to all your people before deriding this and wanting some sort of magic bullet.

Re:Don't they have bigger problems? (1)

RoloDMonkey (605266) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977634)

I have mod points, and I was just going to smack you down, but that wouldn't be the best way to respond to you.

First, this is not a space program. The summary is misleading by using the word launched. This is a earthbound telescope.

Next, the reason that they are doing is this is because they are investing in the future. There are thousands of Mexicans who do have the skills and education to use this, and those people can earn more money, pay more taxes, and encourage others to achieve. Hopefully someday this will snowball, and then they will have richer, better educated citizens.

Poverty, crime, and corruption are problems in the U.S. By your logic, we should spend all of our capital only on these problems, and stop all federally funded research and development.

Last, this is not decades behind. This is one of the largest moving telescopes ever built, and the technology is cutting edge. I have been around radio telescopes my whole life, and this one pushes the very limits of current engineering.

Re:Don't they have bigger problems? (1)

Flaming Cowpie (830542) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978138)

Hey, they make fine fireworks. Tie a couple of those suckers together and you have a reasonable two stage rocket. Now they need to work on it not hitting the building next door. See! Plenty of space for our program. Oh. You meant higher than that tree over there?

Re:Don't they have bigger problems? (3, Funny)

wolenczak (517857) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978262)

Poverty, crime, and corruption ??? You are talking about Louisiana right?

Re:Don't they have bigger problems? (1, Interesting)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978890)

You're responding to a post about a:

(*) Technical innovation in a developing country
( ) Product shipped to a developing market
( ) General discussion about IT in the devbeloping world

The location is:

( ) Africa
( ) India
( ) Bangladesh
( ) China
( ) Somewhere else in Asia
( ) South America
( ) Central America
(*) Other __Mexico___

You're objecting to it on the basis that:

(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in that country yet
( ) American jobs will be lost

Your argument is bogus because:

(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in the developed world either, that doesn't mean we should halt all technological research
(*) This will not adversely affect any efforts to alleviate poverty
( ) This will help to alleviate poverty
( ) Poverty in that country isn't as widespread as you say it is
( ) The US does not have a divine right to keep all the cool jobs

Spellcheck (1)

alexhard (778254) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977492)

The Large Millimeter Telescopewill

Someone isn't using the spellcheck in FF2..

Re:Spellcheck (1)

SilentOneNCW (943611) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977712)

Actually I was. I just didn't notice that one. Also, it's driving me crazy with English/American spellings -- note millimeter/millimetre is spelt both ways. Sorry, Slashdot, I'll look more closely next time.

Re:Spellcheck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977798)

Infinite time means everything that can happen, will. You being you is absolutely incidental. You do not exist.

Ah, a fellow disciple of Borges.

This angers me. (1, Insightful)

Elandur (912973) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977588)

Mexico has much better things they could do with the money. Instead of spending all of that on a telescope program (Which will undoubtedly need a LOT more money for upkeep, operation and maintenance), they should spend it trying to get their people out of poverty. Maybe then they'll stop crossing the border illegally. And as for the US support of the program (The article said it was a joint effort), we should NOT be helping them. Mexicos leadership doesn't give a damn about all of the illegal immigrants coming over here. Until they try to put a stop to it, we shouldn't give them squat. Especially when it's something as trivial as a telescope.

Re:This angers me. (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977648)

The in won't be in there best interest to try and prevent there poorest from coming over here.

The support infrastructure for any space program requires higher paid employees, which means more money for spending, which means more jobs.

We should help them get good economical growth. That is the ONLY way to stop ilegal immigration.

As I'm sure you don't relize, illegal imigration is not as bad as people like to spout off about.

Did you know there are farms in new Mexico that pay 10.70 an hour with benefits and they still can't get legal citizens to work there? That they used to be worked by migration laborors that would come out of Mexico during the season and then return to mexico after the season?

The support infrastructure for any space program requires higher paid employees, which means more money for spending, which means more jobs.

Re:This angers me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16979300)

Your comment's ignorance angers me.

I, for one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977766)

I, for one, welcome our new milimeter sized telescoping mexican overlords.

Those poor Mexicans (-1, Troll)

ThoreauHD (213527) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977816)

It's so sad. All their women are ugly and eat beans. Why can't America live next to Korea or China or Sweden. Those girls are hot.

Re:Those poor Mexicans (3, Funny)

gotem (678274) | more than 7 years ago | (#16977966)

All their women are ugly and eat beans
Just the ones we show to tourists, the good ones we keep for ourselves. Same for the tequila.

De verdad? (1)

fuego451 (958976) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978284)

I can say that the women of the Mexican states of Baja California and Baja Califorinia Sur are among the most beautiful in the world. Oh, to be a young man in Baja again.

Re:De verdad? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978936)

Yes they are.

Thanks a lot for making me remember I'm old, bastard.

Re:De verdad? (1)

cool_arrow (881921) | more than 7 years ago | (#16979092)

You should take a trip to Altos de Jalisco. I don't know why, but it seems there are gorgeous women everywhere.

Sinaloa (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 7 years ago | (#16979256)

Darn, if there is a place in Mexico with the MOST beautiful women (and the concentration of them) is Culiacan Sinaloa just take a look at this pictures (no need español). [bellezaculichi.com]

Oh and about the telescope, in one side it is nince that they are doing something for science (hey I am in UK because of a scolarship I won from the Mexican government) but on the other side, I agree with the people that say that the money could be used for better things

You fail i7! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977824)

bo8bshell hit [goat.cx]

What's a large millimeter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16977994)

1.1 millimeters?

What about the small Mexicans? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16978030)

Now that the GIANT Mexicans have their telescope, won't the small Mexicans feel left out? Or have all of the small Mexicans finally made it to the United States of Azlan?

Mexicans are living proof that Indians fucked Buffalo.

MASA (1)

hoto0301 (811128) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978092)

This $128M project is a substantial step up from the $200 MASA was paid to send Jambu to the moon.

Re:MASA (0, Offtopic)

mkiwi (585287) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978168)

It was "whaleziak," kind of like Wozniak, but without the technical coolness. South Park Trivia :-)

you bastards! (1)

Repvblic (4658) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978308)

Now I know what those motherfuckers are buying with all the jobs they're stealing!

Re:you bastards! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16978596)

Americans, you think you own the world... pinches greengos mamones, engreidos, chingen su reputisima madre... translate that you moth...er!

Re:you bastards! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16978668)

mama me verga

Re:you bastards! (1)

partenon (749418) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978708)

Stealing? The right name for that is "capitalism", man :-) Ask your boss if he prefers one american "Sun Certified Java Programmer" or four mexicans/brazilians/indians "Sun Certified Java Programmer". Isn't the answer obvious?

And you call yourselves 'geeks' ? (4, Insightful)

ChibiOne (716763) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978350)

I was surprised to find less than 5 interesting and well-modded comments in this discussion. Most of you just made fun of the misleading headline, the rest made racist comments or criticized the Mexican government for spending funds in scientific research, instead of spening it in "more important things".

While I do agree that there are a lot of problems in Mexico, I also understand that scientific research is key for a country's development. As someone else already pointed out, skilled Mexicans will work at this telscope facilites, further exapnding knowledge and research, supporting the development of even more Mexican scientists.

Also of mention, should you'd read the fscking article, you'd realize it's not a space telescope, but rather a ground-based one.

And, what's with the racist comments? So it's not ok to make ethnic remarks about "african-americans", "native-americans" or "the latino population in the US", but it's perfectly fine to poke at your Mexican neighbors? What a bunch of hypocrats.

Re:And you call yourselves 'geeks' ? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978884)

it is sad.
Please remember that these post may not be from Americans.

Also, people like to get other peoples goat.

But yeah, it is disappointing.

To summarize (4, Insightful)

oliderid (710055) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978392)

If you ever wondered why Americans are considered ignorant and arrogant abroad, just read this thread.

That must be one big paper towel tube! (0, Troll)

rubberbando (784342) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978462)

That should go nicely with all of those 'Mexican Space Shuttles' (construction worker slang for porta-potties)

Mexican Astronomer Quotes... (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978530)

"Barlows? We ain't got no Barlows. We don't need no Barlows. I don't have to show you any stinking Barlows."

spend money on something else mexico! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16978696)

lol its not over-reactive, just stay in your own goddamned country, unless you do it legally. none of this fake id crap and coming in the back of vans and all this stupid crap ive seen.

as to the telescope, they should have used that on their people and not on the telescope.

Somewhere out there (0, Troll)

slicknick1986 (845339) | more than 7 years ago | (#16978952)

It's good to see the U.S. and Mexico working together. With this, we can finally find the planet our southern friends came from.

The /. racists are out in force (0, Offtopic)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 7 years ago | (#16979016)

I've just been scrolling through some of the comments on this thread. Absolutely disgusting. Interesting to see how racism is alive and well, even among people that are supposedly better educated. Aside from the standard ignorance ("hi-tech industry should be kept out of impoverished countries, the people can only get out of poverty by working in low-skilled, low-paid agriculture and manufacturing") I am struck by the willingness of some people to openly make fun of the concept of people with a slightly different appearance making progress in areas that usually involve good aryans and the master race. But don't let me wake you out of your trance. If 9/11 wasn't enough to wake you up to life outside the USA then maybe you'll sit up and take notice when places like Ireland, India, and (shock horror) Mexico overtake you in science and leave you looking like the British of today - i.e. imperial has-beens who left it too late to ditch the arrogant, superior, condescending attitude.

Re:The /. racists are out in force (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16979388)

A US Border Patrol Agent catches an illegal alien in the bushes right by the border fence, he pulls him out and says "Sorry, you know the law, you've got to go back across the border right now." The mexican man pleads with them, "No, noooo Senior, I must stay in de USA! Pleeeze!" The Border Patrol Agent thinks to himself, I'm going to make it hard for him and says "Ok, I'll let you stay if you can use 3 english words in a sentence".....Mexican Joke submitted by Alan. The Mexican man of course agrees. The Border Patrol Agent tells him, "The 3 words are: Green, Pink and Yellow. Now use them in 1 sentence." The Mexican man thinks really hard for about 2 minutes, then says, "Hmmm, Ok. The phone, it went Green, Green, Green, I Pink it up and sez Yellow?"

Why does a Mexican re-fry their beans? Have you seen a Mexican do anything right the first time?

Why does a Mexican eat Tomales for Christmas? So they have something to unwrap

What are the first 3 words in the Mexican national anthem? "Attention K-Mart shoppers."

What kind of cans are there in Mexico? Mexicans.

What are the first three words in every Mexican cookbook? "Steal a chicken"

An Englishman, Frenchman, Mexican, and Texan were flying across country on a small plane when the pilot comes on the loud speaker and says " We're having mechanical problems and the only way we can make it to the next airport is for 3 of you to open the door and jump, at least one of you can survive" The four open the door and look out below. The Englishman takes a deep breath and hollers "God Save The Queen" and jumps. The Frenchman gets really inspired and hollers "Viva La France" and he also jumps. This really pumps up the Texan so he hollers "Remember the Alamo" and he grabs the Mexican and throws him out of the plane.

Why did God give Mexicans noses? So they'll have something to pick in the winter.

Two guys are bungee-jumping one day. The first guy says to the second. "You know, we could make a lot of money running our own bungee-jumping service in Mexico." The second guy thinks this is a great idea, so the two pool their money and buy everything they'll need - a tower, an elastic cord, insurance, etc. They travel to Mexico and begin to set up on the square. As they are constructing the tower, a crowd begins to assemble. Slowly, more and more people gather to watch them at work. The first guy jumps. He bounces at the end of the cord, but when he comes back up, the second guy notices that he has a few cuts and scratches. Unfortunately, the second guy isn't able catch him, he falls again, bounces and comes back up again. This time, he is bruised and bleeding. Again, the second guy misses him. The first guy falls again and bounces back up. This time, he comes back pretty messed up - he's got a couple of broken bones and is almost unconscious. Luckily, the second guy finally catches him this time and says, "What happened? Was the cord too long?" The first guy says, "No, the cord was fine, but what the heck is a 'pinata'?"

Why doesnt mexico have a olympic team? Because every mexican that can run, jump, and swim is already across the border!

A Mexican guy and a Black guy are in a car. Who is driving? The cops.

My name is Pancho
I work on a Rancho
I make seven pesos a day
My girlfriend is Lucy
I play with her pussy
She takes all my pesos away
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