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VLC 0.8.6 Released

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the plays-almost-anything dept.

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h2g2bob writes "VideoLAN yesterday released a new version of VLC media player. A shout out goes to ffmpeg for many of the codec improvements." From the blurb: "Building on feedback from the 29 million downloads of VLC media player 0.8.5, we bring you version 0.8.6 with many bugfixes, as well as a couple of new features we think you will truly enjoy. Most prominent are probably Windows Media Video 9 and Flash Video. Other important changes are improved H.264 decoding, better Windows Unicode support, a Fullscreen controller, and Apple Remote support for Mac OS X."

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may this be a new record? (1, Troll)

hjf (703092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201786)

Slashdotted before First Post!

Re:may this be a new record? (1, Offtopic)

Progman3K (515744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201864)

Maybe the editors tipped of the site maintainer(s).
Videolan is a university project and I believe they have to pay for their hosting.

9th prost (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17201788)

9th Post retards!!

Already? (0, Redundant)

GusCrown (917301) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201792)

Slashdotted already?

Re:Already? (1)

DaveM753 (844913) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201872)

They're too busy watching movies on 0.8.6 to worry about downloaders... :(

Re:Already? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202230)

It was on Digg yesterday.

Re:Already? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202276)

Craptastic site

Anyone know the changelog? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202926)

Does anyone have a full changelog for the new version? I can't get to the site at all.

Hopefully, this version fixes the occasional crashes I see. And maybe, just maybe, they won't shuffle the playlist by default (or will make an option to turn that off). I hate when I queue up a bunch of episodes of something, only to have them shuffled out of order because I forgot to disable shuffle :(

Or else, does anyone know how to make it default to off? I couldn't find any option to get rid of that behavior in the documentation or configuration files...

Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (4, Interesting)

xjerky (128399) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201794)

I realize Flip4Mac exists for this, but does the new VLC implement Windows WMV9 DLLs for the Intel OS X version?

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (5, Informative)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201858)

FFMPEG now contains an open-source WMV9 decoder.

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (5, Informative)

KonoWatakushi (910213) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202098)

I have a PPC mac and it is great to have a native working WMV9/VC-1 codec. While I haven't tried it in VLC, I have used it in the recent MPlayer dev builds, and it is much better than flip4mac.

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (4, Interesting)

stuuf (587464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201880)

I think it uses the new WMV9 decoder added to ffmpeg for Summer of Code, so it doesn't need windows DLLs or any other platform-specific or legally shady methods.

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (5, Informative)

kosmosik (654958) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201894)

No. It would be illegal (in some countries) to use Windows files - they got its own license and it wold be sloppy. Instead VLC uses ffmpeg codecs which implement (partially) WMV9 decoding (but no DRM and no encoding *FIXME*). Ffmpeg codecs are another implementation (than Windows DLLs) achieved through reverse-engeenering (which also may be illegal to use in some countries).

As for now from ffmpeg documentation:
http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC23 [mplayerhq.hu]

WMV8 and WMV9 are "not completely working". But I think they may work well for 90% of media files out there.

So kudos for VLC team for another great release. :)

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202176)

The only illegality in question for the WMV3 decoder is patent infringement, but it's not like Microsoft makes any effort to posting the relative patents needed to license WMV3/VC-1 like MPEG does for its standards.

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (1)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202196)

You don't need to know which patents you're infringing; you just need to know that they exist and if you pay MS you get a license for all of them. :-/

Re:Hmmm....WMV9 on OS X? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202686)

Why should Microsoft publish a list of patents? It's not their job.

Relevant patents are held in a patent pool with at least 15 other companies. The pool is owned by an outfit called MPEG LA [mpegla.com] , which also manages patent pools for a number of other video standards. Unfortunately, VC-1 [mpegla.com] is still in their "Programs Under Development" section, so they don't yet have a patent list as they do for other standards such as MPEG-2 [mpegla.com] .

Maybe you should complain about MPEG LA not yet posting the list -- it's been a few months since they announced the license terms from the initial pool members -- but that's hardly MS's fault.

ffmpeg's WMV9 implementation (5, Interesting)

wesley96 (934306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201966)

Since it's using ffmpeg to decode WMV9 instead of using Windows DLLs, both PPC and Intel Macs enjoy native decoding of the codec in question. No wrapper, no drag.

Incidentally, it looks like the new version is finally available in Universal Binary as well as Intel- and PPC-specific builds. And it seems to load subtitle texts automatically from the get-go without mingling with the preferences settings (yes, I confirmed this by trashing the existing preferences file). I say job well done for the VLC developers.

slashdotted with no comments (1)

ukatoton (999756) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201802)

I guess I'll have to wait a bit before I can try it.

Re:slashdotted with no comments (4, Informative)

_Pablo (126574) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202004)

Re:slashdotted with no comments (1)

ukatoton (999756) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202100)

Woohoo! Even after enabling the fullscreen controls under options, there don't actually seem to be any. Maybe it's just my computer acting up, but I can't see any. Looks like I'll have to stick with the keyboard to control playback.

Re:slashdotted with no comments (3, Informative)

chrispl (189217) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202730)

I have not tried the new version yet but in the old version moving the mouse to the top right corner of the screen would pop up the controls.
Took me a while to figure that one out...

Why is this under Linux? (5, Interesting)

drcagn (715012) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201810)

This program is cross-platform and this build has Windows- and OSX-specific features. Why is this under Linux? Just because it's open source?

Re:Why is this under Linux? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17201906)

Because you're a faggot with AIDS

That is why

Now go die Linux boy

Re:Why is this under Linux? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202186)

Go show your mom this comment. She will get you some help.

Re:Why is this under Linux? (2, Informative)

aero2600-5 (797736) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202118)

It's under Linux because VLC runs under Linux, and is possibly the best media player for Linux. Yes, there are versions for Mac and Windows, but that's for many reasons. First off is that a tarball will do you little to no good on either of those systems. More importantly, and I'm not 100% sure because it's slashdotted, there are probably things added to the Mac and Windows versions that just won't work under Linux. Should the software runs worse than it's capable of under Windows because it's intended for Linux? No. A perfect example is that not all web-browsers support advanced CSS techniques. Should we not create better websites that only the newer browsers can handle? We develop for both, one that the older browsers can handle, and one that the new browsers can make look even better. There is nothing wrong with developing for both. If you happen to look at the mirrors, there are .bz2 and .gz files, as well as a Suse version, in addition to the Mac and Windows versions.

Aero

Re:Why is this under Linux? (1, Interesting)

Chandon Seldon (43083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202404)

and is possibly the best media player for Linux.

Lots of things are possible. That's one that's possible and not true.

VLC Player is more likely to be the best media player under Windows, where stuff like MPlayer isn't native.

Re:Why is this under Linux? (1)

colfer (619105) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202752)

It looks like a win32 binary, not a tarball.

Re:Why is this under Linux? (2, Informative)

gQuigs (913879) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202412)

If I recall correctly, it started out being only on Linux and then was ported to the other two.

Re:Why is this under Linux? (1)

etrusco (576870) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202858)

Maybe because it's much more relevant in Linux, since in Windows and Mac there are more alternatives and more polished alternatives...

VLC is teh woohoo! (5, Interesting)

DaveM753 (844913) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201816)

> "a Fullscreen controller"

Woohoo! I've been a tad frustrated with the lack of control while in fullscreen. I suppose I could memorize all of the keyboard shortcuts, but I use several different viewers between the Mac, Linux and Windoze...it just gets too confusing. I can't wait to try this out!

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201898)

I've been frustrated by 0.8.5's inability to remember deinterlacing settings, and also it's tendency to spew out errors. I've had it crash several times in an evening.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (2, Informative)

Jherek Carnelian (831679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202032)

I've been frustrated by 0.8.5's inability to remember deinterlacing settings,

You have to do more than just set the deinterlace method.
IIRC:
You have to add the deinterlace filter.
You probably also need to change the default setting for files (there are separate settings for files and for streaming).

I really like vlc a lot, but like a lot of Free software, the user-interface could really benefit from improvement.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (1)

straponego (521991) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202262)

I really like vlc a lot, but like a lot of Free software, the user-interface could really benefit from improvement.

...as opposed to commercial software, which is harmed by improvement? :)

The main beef I had with VLC is that the default keyboard shortcuts seemed deficient, and the navigation shortcuts changed in full screen on Linux. But VLC has rapidly become the best media player out there IMO, and the fact that it's cross-platform is gravy.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (3, Interesting)

Miseph (979059) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202862)

I think the key phrase was user-interface. Most free software does need a lot of fixing up in the UI department, and most commercial software needs a lot of improvement in the functionality department.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (1)

Atraxen (790188) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202268)

Ironically, my issue is lack of control due to too fine of control... Whenever VLC's the active window, my mouse speed is roughly halved. I'm looking through the prefs now, but no cause yet.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (1)

injury0314 (797702) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202556)

If only they would implement Mplayer's keyboard controls and OSD, it would be the perfect windows media player. On Linux though, that's another story.

Re:VLC is teh woohoo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202900)

Don't get your hopes up - the best I've seen it do, is pop up the taskbar to get the controllerwindow, which then becomes buggy for me, especially in skinned mode (i.e. opening multiple instances of the videowindow - so maybe a problem with my dualcore).

But I'll still keep VLC for those faulty files that no other player can play, and the new .flv support is great too, for watching YouTube downloads.

nigthlies is up (5, Informative)

gerbalblaste (882682) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201838)

http://nightlies.videolan.org/ [videolan.org] is still online

Re:nigthlies is up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202706)

FTP server(s) are up and running just fine: download here-ish [videolan.org] (choose your release within).

Posted AC because people complain about karma whoring even when plus karma doesn't affect you anymore.

/.ng (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17201842)

Ok, it is time that you all stop covering software releases. You /.'d a college; now cut it out. My porn is of a greater urgency than your reporting.

Yay! (1)

Kiba Ruby (1037440) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201852)

Unfortunately, I don't have much to say there.

But yay!

VLC is a great piece software that probably play more format then many other media players combined.

I applaud the VLC team for making a new release.

Too bad it seem to be slashdotted. :(

How is this news? (-1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201884)

How is this news?
A media player goes from version 0.8.5 to 0.8.6 -> FRONT PAGE

WTF??

-d

Re:How is this news? (5, Insightful)

DaveM753 (844913) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201954)

> "How is this news?"

When Microsoft Windows Media Player, QuickTime or Real Player release a new version, it makes the front page of CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times. So, when a free, open-source player releases a new version, is it not appropriate for a promoter of open-source software to announce it?

Re:How is this news? (1)

TheFlyingGoat (161967) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202290)

When WMP gets a hotfix or iTunes releases a minor version, they definitely do not make the news anywhere. That's the equivalent. I like VLC as much as the next guy, but I also like iTunes, and neither deserves a frontpage article for minor updates.

Re:How is this news? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202316)

Which last hotfix to a media player added new features comparable to support for a major video format, full screen controls, and more?
Don't tell me you also just looked at the version number increase.

Re:How is this news? (1)

TheFlyingGoat (161967) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202386)

I've seen iTunes change some major stuff in minor updates (ipod interface, for example). Microsoft may exaggerate their versioning, but Apple doesn't. I've also seen Zoom Player, Meedio, Xbox Media Center, and more add support for major video formats, interface changes, and a lot more, and they don't get a front page article. Obviously the editors can do whatever they want, but this is "slownewsday" news, plain and simple.

Re:How is this news? (1)

shaitand (626655) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202352)

When WMP gets a hotfix or iTunes releases a minor version, they definitely do not make the news anywhere. That's the equivalent. I like VLC as much as the next guy, but I also like iTunes, and neither deserves a frontpage article for minor updates.
You assume that because they don't artificially inflate the version number that this is a minor update?

Re:How is this news? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202444)

It wouldn't be artificially inflating the number. If there are new features, it shouldn't be a minor version number increase. This is sloppy release engineering, plain and simple.

Re:How is this news? (2, Interesting)

Goaway (82658) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202494)

They are artificially deflating the version number, if anything. Why do so many people think you have to be thirfty with version numbers?

Re:How is this news? (5, Funny)

EvanED (569694) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202670)

Because like oil, the whales, and oxygen, version numbers are a non-renewable resource!

Re:How is this news? (1)

smurphus (839694) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202060)

Note the "slownewsday" tag...

It's news. (4, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202192)

VLC is a very significant piece of software, not just for Linux users (for whom its especially significant) but for anyone who watches a lot of movies or other media files.

This version introduces a number of new and long-requested features, beyond what the point-release number upgrade would lead you to believe.

In many ways, I'd say that a new release of VLC is probably more significant than the latest "marketing department" release of Quicktime Player or Windows Media Player.

Re:It's news. (1)

Mishtara2001 (678818) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202220)

I agree, and the most popular type of media-movie files I watch with VLC is...

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202226)

A version increment measures the technical difference, not the slashdotworthiness of a release. For that you have to look at the features. For example if between Vista build 2837 and 2838 Microsoft had implemented ext2/3 support, it would be slashdotworthy.

Re:How is this news? (2, Insightful)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202292)

How is a bit of numerology really relevant to this?

I'm grateful for the news myself as some of these features were pretty substantial.

Don't stare yourself blind at the version number.

you suck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202684)

go away

Flash video (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17201948)

Is flash video essentially just a container format like ogg or quicktime? Can I play videos from youTube by just copying and pasting the .swf URL into VLC?

IIRC youtube embed their player in the flash, so will VLC just ignore the bytecode and present a menu to access the embeded media?

Re:Flash video (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202586)

Yeah, more or less. You have to download the .swf file, then extract the url of the .flv file from it, then download that. There's a script to get the URL at http://www.keepvid.com/ [keepvid.com] . There's also a firefox plugin that'll do it for you.

Some help with versioning? (2, Interesting)

dave562 (969951) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201958)

VLC media player 0.8.5, we bring you version 0.8.6 with many bugfixes, as well as a couple of new features we think you will truly enjoy.

For bug fixes I could see a 0.0.1 increase but don't new additions and features generally come with a 0.1.0 increment at least? Maybe the devs are too scared of developing a true 1.0 version? =)

Re:Some help with versioning? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202042)

Who cares what meaningless label version number is assigned to a release. Do you wank yourself stupid when you see a x+1.0 release?

How about a mirror? (5, Informative)

ZiZ (564727) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201974)

Use a bloody mirror!
  • VideoLAN primary mirror - France - Download [videolan.org] (HTTP)
  • VIA Centrale Reseaux, École Centrale Paris - France - Download [via.ecp.fr] (HTTP)
  • Twente University - Netherlands - Download [utwente.nl] (HTTP)
  • IRCAM - France - Download [ircam.fr] (HTTP)
  • Université de Strasbourg - France - Download [u-strasbg.fr] (FTP)
  • Cr@ns, ENS Cachan - France - Download [crans.org] (FTP)
  • Providence University - Taiwan - Download [pu.edu.tw] (FTP)
  • Endpoint Corporation - Sweden - Download [endpoint.nu] (FTP)
  • Optralan - USA - Download [optralan.com] (HTTP)
  • Brno University of Technology - Czech Republic - Download [vutbr.cz] (HTTP)
  • Brno University of Technology - Czech Republic - Download [vutbr.cz] (FTP)
  • Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Paraná - Brazil - Download [pucpr.br] (FTP)
(These are all Windows downloads. Remove the filename and last directory from the path to explore other download options.)

Re:How about a mirror? (5, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202072)

Which one has your trojan embedded?

Re:How about a mirror? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202190)

>Which one has your trojan embedded?

All of them! It's in the concept of getting you to go open source.

Re:How about a mirror? (2, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202380)

Open source is great. Running the version of windows that came with my computer is simpler than running thing open source, and damn am I lazy.

Running a binary downloaded from a random link on slashdot is a really bad idea. A link to a videolan hosted mirror list is a much better idea, then you only have to trust videolan.org, not some random guy on slashdot.

Re:How about a mirror? (2, Informative)

ZiZ (564727) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202606)

Since they run on Windows, they all require the trojan to be preinstalled.

This is a list of the mirrors from videolan.org, as seen on Google's cache [72.14.203.104] (or go searching for "cache:http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-window s.html" - don't forget to remove the spaces inserted by slashdot - on google yourself), with the links edited to be (a) direct mirror download links rather than through videolan.org's redirector and (b) the version number changed from 0.8.5 to 0.8.6.

And yes, it is a damn shame that you can't trust anyone on the Internet. Good thing there are helpful people like you watching out for the uneducated masses, otherwise we might all be running...er...trojan-infested pirated copies of Windows, with pirated music on our iPods, with our megahurtz being stoled.

Re:How about a mirror? (1)

javilon (99157) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202682)

Which one has your trojan embedded?

The one that has a different checksum

Re:How about a mirror? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202750)

We all know slashdotters rarely if ever get a chance to embed a trojan...

Re:How about a mirror? (5, Funny)

legal_asshole (859683) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202874)

I appologize in advance...

I'd go with the mirror from India. The trojan has probably slipped off the executable, and the executable is going to be smaller to boot!

I hate myself...

torrent? (5, Interesting)

metroplex (883298) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201978)

Is there an official torrent of the releases hosted somewhere reachable?

h264 decoding on vlc player kicks ass! (4, Informative)

vivek7006 (585218) | more than 7 years ago | (#17201998)

On windows platform, when I play h264 video files the cpu usage is considerably less than other players. Especially in comparison with mplayer-classic using ffdshow. I usually encode all my home-videos using x264 and use VLC player for playback. VLC player uses minimal cpu and video quality is awesome. Thanks guys!

Re:h264 decoding on vlc player kicks ass! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202206)

Personally, playing h264 stuff in VLC doesn't work all that great for me... I use Media Player Classic with CoreAVC, and it uses far, far less cpu.

Re:h264 decoding on vlc player kicks ass! (2, Interesting)

vivek7006 (585218) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202286)

Personally, playing h264 stuff in VLC doesn't work all that great for me... I use Media Player Classic with CoreAVC, and it uses far, far less cpu.

I have also read good reviews about coreAVC on doom9 forums, but VLC player is free and open-source as opposed to coreAVC which is closed.

Re:h264 decoding on vlc player kicks ass! (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202634)

(Most) 1088i vids play back flawlessly on my bottom-end C2D with CoreAVC, where the ffmpeg staggers and stutters through the same material. Best $15 I've spent in a while.

Re:h264 decoding on vlc player kicks ass! (1)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202260)

You should thank the ffmpeg team for that, not the VLC guys (who certainly deserve credit for their work in other areas though)

What fullscreen controller? (1)

guidryp (702488) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202088)

Installed 0.8.6 and when I go to fullscreen, I can't find any new full screen control. A big part of the reason I use MPC first and use VLC as a backup, is the much more usable interface on MPC in full screen mode. VLC still has none AFAICT.

Re:What fullscreen controller? (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202222)

Move your mouse.

Re:What fullscreen controller? (3, Interesting)

flimnap (751001) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202246)

Installed 0.8.6 and when I go to fullscreen, I can't find any new full screen control.

Gack, good! One of the best things about VLC is that there is no annoying "control" eating screen space when you go fullscreen. The keyboard shortcuts remain fully functional, so use those.

I've seen way too many public presentations that begin with the Windows Media Player controls present, then sliding away, not to appreciate the value of VLC.

Re:What fullscreen controller? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202630)

I've seen way too many public presentations that begin with the Windows Media Player controls present, then sliding away, not to appreciate the value of VLC.

Thats the point - they slide away. If you don't want to see the controls, don't play with your mouse while watching something fullscreen.

Re:What fullscreen controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202696)

pressing f on the keyboard also helps

cloth (1)

ElephanTS (624421) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202122)

"Building on feedback from the 29 million downloads of VLC media player 0.8.5, we bring you version 0.8.6 with many bugfixes, as well as a couple of new features we think you will truly enjoy. Most prominent are probably Windows Media Video 9 and Flash Video. Other important changes are improved H.264 decoding, better Windows Unicode support, a Fullscreen controller, and Apple Remote support for Mac OS X."


And most importantly it will play all your pr0n torrents if you are running OSX. (Comes with free cloth).

Re:cloth (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202440)

"Building on feedback from the 29 million downloads of VLC media player 0.8.5, we bring you version 0.8.6 with many bugfixes, as well as a couple of new features we think you will truly enjoy. Most prominent are probably Windows Media Video 9 and Flash Video. Other important changes are improved H.264 decoding, better Windows Unicode support, a Fullscreen controller, and Apple Remote support for Mac OS X."

 
And most importantly it will play all your pr0n torrents if you are running OSX. (Comes with free cloth).
 
 
Great! Where is it? Where is it!

...too late :(

VLC is a packet-based player (5, Informative)

aok (5389) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202152)

I use VLC player for playing all my videos under Linux, both standalone and as a firefox plugin (in conjunction with the MediaPlayerConnectivity Firefox addon extension).

The only downside I find is that actions are a bit laggy compared to frame-based players. For example, if I hit pause, it doesn't pause instantaneously.

Also, and I'm not sure if it's a limitation of being a packet-based player, but I wish it wouldn't close the video right after it's done playing. I prefer the last frame to stay on the screen.

P.S. For those using VLC under XGL and get a weird green-tinted bar at the top of your videos, change the Video output module to "X11 video output". You'll need to toggle the Advanced Settings checkbox.

Re:VLC is a packet-based player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202424)

> For example, if I hit pause, it doesn't pause instantaneously.

At least under windows, it actually pauses when I *release* the click on the pause button. I'm not sure why, but when I've wanted to pause an anime to read all the weird text that flashes by on some screen (it usually contains engrish or random, strange jokes :-) I'll scroll back to a few seconds before the scene, then hold down the pause button and wait to release it at just the right moment.

Which, I grant, is quite hard...

Re:VLC is a packet-based player (1)

TheVoice900 (467327) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202502)

Same with any other button, the action is not executed until you release the mouse from the button. This is presumably so that you can cancel your action if you catch yourself in mid-click clicking on something you don't want.

Re:VLC is a packet-based player (0)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202832)

Doesn't sound like the expected behaviour.
Have the breaks on your car wait until you release the pedal for a graphic example.

Issues with Vista? (1)

dubstar (565060) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202284)

There doesn't seem to be any video out (other than a sometimes flashing screen) on Vista. 0.8.5 works fine when I uninstall/reinstall though. Anyone else have this issue? I'd check their forums, but... /.'d

Re:Issues with Vista? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202668)

Same for me here with the default output :(

Building FC6 RPMS's... (1)

mwilliamson (672411) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202308)

I just started a RPM build based on the livna 0.8.5 spec file and dependencies...heading back to work for a few hours. If this works, I'll post the resultant SRPM and FC6 RPMs. The spec file that comes with 0.8.6 is marked version 0.8.0, so I didn't even bother with it.

-Michael

fullscreen controller sure looks familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202482)

It's nearly indistinguishable from the fullscreen controller in QuickTime Pro. Its corners are slightly less rounded, that's about the only difference.

way to be late (0)

xxdesmus (932581) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202650)

a full day late on this one ...way to go guys. nothing like bleeding edge news a day late...

Install?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202688)

How am I supposed to install this?
First, no zip. Second, (after using winrar) the install instructions are several pages talking about DOS command line. WTF timewarp 1995? just gimmie the install double click OK, accept, next, next, OK ... done! install procedure. If I wanted hassle/compiling I'd run linux

Re:Install?? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202760)

Point and Drooler i see. Sad.

Re:Install?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202838)

I can spend the next 2 hours studying for my Tax Law exam or play around with files. Some people consider computers a tool and not a hobby. (ps - I've installed and configured Mandrake, redhat, and ubuntu - Windows XP FTW)

FWIW, I just don't have the inclination to tinker with computers when all I want it to do is just "work."
click, drool, and get on with my life *away* from the computer.

Re:Install?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17202932)

The installer I just downloaded uninstalled 0.8.5 for me, then installed 0.8.6 with no hassle. WTF are you doing?

MKV Support (1)

Bob54321 (911744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202734)

Does anyone know if the support for Matroska files improved? I had to resort to using the Matroska plugin for Windows Media Player to play some file I was given. The video kept skipping in the action parts and randomly stopping in other places (on only certain files).

Version Number Deflation... (5, Insightful)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17202892)

Is it just me, or does it make NO SENSE that this is a point.point upgrade? I don't care who you are, 0.0.1 upgrades are for things like bug fixes, small new implimentations, slight library recompiles... fuck: a new ICON. NOT major format additions, a UI overhaul, and a boatload of additional features!

I can understand the concern for version number inflation (Netscape 4 -> Netscape 6 was idiotic, same with Winamp 3 -> Winamp 5), but let's not be overly humble to the point of confusing users. Version Number Deflation looks just as silly.

I remember a time in which anything under 1.0 meant that a program was practically unusable and ONLY for elite users. But I've started to see a trend in the OSS community towards NEVER releasing a 1.0, as if 1.0 means that you're now an evil commercial entity that must be punished. No, 1.0 means "finished to the point of usability and beta tested to a certain level of solidity". Obviously, the finer points of this can be debated and are up to the descresion of the developer, but at a certain point, COME ON! When you've been working on a reasonably small audio player for over 4 years, and haven't even reached your 1.0, this tells me one of two things 1) You don't know how to code, and probably should find a new line of work, or 2) you're using numbers under 1.0 as a symbol of you're elitist OSS community status.

Seriously, I've tried VLC... it crashes sometimes... not as often as Windows... not as often as MPlayer... it's been above a 1.0 for YEARS now, just fucking call it what it is, and cut with the ritualistic, elitist, OSS symbolism bullshit.

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