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New Stargate Series In the Works

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the on-the-horizon dept.

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Skythe writes "Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works: 'The new series is in the concept phase, and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. No concept for the show has yet been revealed.' Gateworld also reports despite the cancellation of SG-1, the series is likely for a 2007 debut. I wonder if the direct-to-dvd movies will any influence on the new series, and what the concept behind the show will be?"

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New Series (3, Funny)

nametaken (610866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250694)

...oh thank god.

Gate Trek? (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251374)

Looks like Stargate is out to compete with Star Trek for the most spinoffs ever.

Someone told me there is another Rocky movie on the way -- I guess if you're going to do one, it has to be soon, eh? Now if Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong would only stop procrastinating... :)

Re:New Series (2, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251992)

...oh thank god.

That's a novel way of spelling "Nnnoooooooo!!!"

Re:New Series (2, Funny)

MadJo (674225) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252050)

You mean "Oh thank Apophis"?

I'm all for it! (4, Insightful)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250706)

. . . as long as it doesn't involve either (a) a prequel to Stargate SG-1, (b) aliens with big, floppy ears and a jamaican accent, (c) weird time travel/space-time continuum plot lines, or (d) William Shatner!

Re:I'm all for it! (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251606)

How about an explanation for why all the human cultures and aliens across three galaxies all speak English? I'd sure like to know...

Re:I'm all for it! (2, Funny)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251644)

Babel fish! Wait...Wrong story...

Re:I'm all for it! (2, Insightful)

LiquidEdge (774076) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251658)

ummm....probably because if they spoke a different language, you might not understand what they're saying, which doesn't make for good television.

Re:I'm all for it! (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251734)

Funny, it makes for numerous great films. Not to mention the Japanese Anime genres.

Re:I'm all for it! (2, Interesting)

TrueKonrads (580974) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251962)

In one of the replies by crew of SG(A|-1), they said, that it was impractical, due to schedule for the actors to learn "stargate klingon". Besides, it would require heavy use of subtitling which a lot of people dislike. There is no "in-game" explanation for this.

Re:I'm all for it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17252098)

Perhaps English is the highest form of evolved language and all languages spoken by humans will, over time, become English. That would sure upset the French.

9/11 (0, Flamebait)

sanman2 (928866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251626)

Usually, when a new scifi series is announced these days, it revolves around a post-9/11 plotline, whereby the heroes are having to cope with authorities who are hyper-repressive and militaristic, creating a danger of trampling upon the noble and misunderstood underdog victims.

Re:I'm all for it! (3, Funny)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252012)

>> or (d) William Shatner!

Next, on Stargate 9-1-1.

If they put Morena Baccarin in it (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250712)

Then frankly I wont care too much what the show concept is, it will be watched regardless.

Re:If they put Morena Baccarin in it (1)

loraksus (171574) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250800)

GIS for the lazy... [google.ca]

You Firefly fans won't need it though ;)

Re:If they put Morena Baccarin in it (1)

strider44 (650833) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252092)

I know who she it.

(I clicked the link anyway)

Re:If they put Morena Baccarin in it (1)

Darthmalt (775250) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251198)

Maybe it's a revival of firefly codenamed Stargate Sg2 hands of blue. Hey I can dream can't I.

Hey! (5, Funny)

Mullen (14656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250722)

You know, they should totally make a Stargate movie! That would be awesome!

Re:Hey! (3, Funny)

joshier (957448) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251188)

I don't get it..

Re:Hey! (1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251210)

That's because you read Slashdot.

No joke! (3, Interesting)

denebian devil (944045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251230)

I've heard that they may try to simultaneously (or at least in scarily close succession) make a spinoff movie for SG1 and make a sequel to the original movie... as if they were two completely separate things. Which, if you look at the turns that SG1 has made, isn't too far from the truth.

Stargate: Vice City (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17250726)

Yeah!

Re:Stargate: Vice City (2, Funny)

alephsmith (937899) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251314)

Or possibly.. Stargate: Miami/New York/Las Vegas The same old shit with a different filter on the lens. or how about Stargate: SVU Finally... we can prosecute all those anal probing bastards.

Re:Stargate: Vice City (3, Funny)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251716)

How about a crossover? CSI: Chulak or Jaffa CIS? Or maybe Stargate: Impossible?

Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250764)

...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250998)

Didn't we learn this lesson with Futurama vs. The Simpsons?

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (4, Funny)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251352)

Learn what? Futurama was much better than The Simpsons.

And you are like Hitler.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

NoTheory (580275) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251960)

Sir, i applaud you for the most humorously capricious invocations of Godwin's Rule i have ever encountered. Bravo.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (2, Insightful)

messerman (446251) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251376)

...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel.
You're not watching Doctor Who then, obviously.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251592)

No, I hear it's good....just have never really given it a chance.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251668)

You're not watching Doctor Who then, obviously.

The show where the first bad guy (of this version) was a bunch of mannequins coming to life? That would be a no.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251638)

Are you kidding? Your suspension of disbelief threshold must be high, because my bullshit meter gets set off by the "everyone inexplicably speaks English" problem, personally. The Star Treks were all way better shows than Stargate. Hell even Babylon 5 and Farscape are more consistent and believable than Stargate. Throw in BSG and Firefly and Stargate comes across as third rate.

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251720)

SciFI, Discovery Channel, whats the difference, with all the recent science fiction plots about a global warming...

Re:Damn them for cancelling SG-1 (1)

SamSim (630795) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252082)

The third series better be darn good.

Fourth series [imdb.com] , I think you'll find.

Come ON already (1)

Jethro (14165) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250784)

Why don't they just acknowledge that SG1 is essentially a new Stargate series and just keep it going?

Re:Come ON already (1)

kimvette (919543) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250852)

Because you have the fanbois whining about how O'Neill is better than Mitchell, that Mitchell is a wuss, that they should rename the show to "Fargate," and so forth. Is there an analog to the Star Trek fanbois, you know, a slur similar to "Trekkie?"

Re:Come ON already (3, Insightful)

Jethro (14165) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250900)

But that's exactly what I'm saying they should do - rename it Stargate:The Uncharted Territories or whatever the hell and just keep going like we were before. Why invent a 3rd series when we practically already had one?

Re:Come ON already (2, Interesting)

Darthmalt (775250) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251254)

What about Stargate SG1 The new class.

But you are right it may as well be a new series as much as the cast and focus of the show has changed. I still really like the show but it has changed quite a bit in the past few seasons. After all how many plot lines can you have with the G'ould being the only real enemies. They also have / had the replicators but they are too static as character group to be of interest for too long.

Re:Come ON already (4, Insightful)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251498)

Note: I'm from Germany and we're just getting the ninth season, so for me the Ori are still pretty new and fresh. But I'm already getting tired of it. Gone are the daays of exploring the galaxy in order to find new technology to defend Earth - now we have huge-ass warships and pretty much everyone who can hold a gun is our friend. And the Ori are so ridiculously overpowered that suspension of disbelief is getting hard; after all they could easily win by sending priors with planet-devastating powers to Earth and a couple other important planets. It's essentially a battle between godmoders.

If the show keeps going on like this it's no wonder it didn't survive. As much as I like SG-1, it's too similar to Dragonball Z for comfort.

Re:Come ON already (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251522)

You raise a good point. I still really like the series. But it has changed so much so that I just don't compare the current team to the original team.

I, for one, (3, Insightful)

kimvette (919543) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250794)

I, for one, welcome our new inter-dimensional overlords. Or something.

Given the production quality of SG-1 and Atlantis, I'm looking forward to any new Stargate series that comes out. :) I'm kind of disappointed about the alleged "stargate universe" reboot in the rumored sequel, considering that SG-1 picked up fairly nicely from where the original movie left off. It should be entertaining, in any event.

Re:I, for one, (3, Funny)

loraksus (171574) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250832)

Assuming you even see it... SciFi will probably just end up bumping it with a crappy wrestling show...

It does need a reboot. (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250838)

It's got the inevitable inconsistencies, mostly with the movie. I don't even want to guess at physics problem.

This is a good thing, and I like the show the way it is -- I like that Daniel Jackson doesn't have to spend the first half hour of every show cracking a new alien language -- but still, it might be good to officially reboot it.

Damn you, Preview button (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250904)

How you mock me.

That should be:

I don't even want to guess at inconsistencies in the physics, seeing as they seem to grab anything you ever hear that sounds physicsy, especially if it has words like "quantum" or "dark matter", and include it in some random alien technology.

Re:It does need a reboot. (1)

modecx (130548) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250918)

Yeah, but they poke fun at the inconsistencies all the time. That in itself is entertaining to me, because at least it shows a good sense of humor, a thing any "reboot" would likely be devoid of.

Re:It does need a reboot. (5, Insightful)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251520)

IMHO the series is in dire need of a reboot, which is why I find myself enjoying Atlantis more than SG1. With a show like SG1 it's far too easy to rely on prior-knowledge and previous episodes, which rewards long-time fans but make the show increasingly unapproachable by new viewers. Since the show isn't gaining many fans, it experiences a net loss of viewers until it inevitably starves itself out and gets canned.

With Atlantis character development has to be pushed, enemies are still fresh, mysterious, and menacing. Part of the thing with the Goa'uld at the beginning was how little we knew about them. We didn't know their customs, we didn't know too much about their physiology, and we certainly had no idea how to beat them. Part of the problem right now is that they've killed off all the bad guys, necessitating the need to create ever more powerful bad guys - and now we're literally fighting gods. The show's also drifted away from the Stargate-y roots. I enjoyed episodes where the gate would meet strange new enemies through the gate, not... by going to hyperspace and waging intergalactic war in ginormous battlecruisers. Please. Leave that to Star Trek.

Re:It does need a reboot. (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251562)

Then do what I did...watch all the old episodes. We are in the 21st centrury dude, that's a poor excuse.

Re:It does need a reboot. (2, Insightful)

NoTheory (580275) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252008)

Actually, one of the things that i found interesting was having the terran military develop technology that let them actually compete with the alien species surrounding them. This could have been really fascinating, but they developed so quickly, and with so little effort, that it really wasn't that interesting. I think they missed a huge opportunity there. The ground they covered though is fascinating, SG-1 went from running around on foot, and having to flee or leave behind anything they couldn't carry, to being able to teleport buildings, use energy weapons and shields, and travel in hyperspace. I wish they'd been more introspective about it (although i guess O'Neil's character didn't really lend itself that).

Oh well, SG-1 was always soft scifi. Maybe i'm just a hard scifi geek complaining too much :)

Not 2007, but 2008 (1)

Meph0 (1024431) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250834)

From what I read in the original article is that it's not likely to be rushed to replace SG-1, but that a 2008 premiere is more likely.

Re:Not 2007, but 2008 (1)

benlwilson (983210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251044)

Your right, this slashdot article is factually incorrect.

Re:Not 2007, but 2008 (1)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251400)

Gasp!

Re:Not 2007, but 2008 (1)

Skythe (921438) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251808)

Oops, my bad. I keep forgetting that 2007 is just around the corner.

Why don't they just acknowledge that SG1 is essentially a new Stargate series and just keep it going?
They were actually considering that for season 9, renaming it to something like Stargate: Command - which would apparently give better ratings due to renewed interest. However, i think they are beyond that point now, given that they have been running the 'new' SG-1 for almost 2 seasons. On top of that, talk of a third spin-off predates SG-1's axing.

Personally, im hoping the new series will be more mature in tone, along the lines/closer to that of BSG. Stargate has had almost 13 combined seasons without any truly adult themes/tone, and i think its about time they produce a show that my 5 year old sister can't watch.

Re:Not 2007, but 2008 (1)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252104)

Your five-year-old sister? How old are you?

i've never seen the show... (2, Funny)

jimfinity (849860) | more than 7 years ago | (#17250944)

can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?

Re:i've never seen the show... (4, Insightful)

nmb3000 (741169) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251030)

can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?

I would have thought 1 would be where Voyager sits? :)

I'd have to put it at 9.5 or 10, simply because I enjoy it as much as BSG.

The thing with Stargate is that just like BSG (Black Market), it has a few episodes that just aren't that great (The Light). Also shared with BSG, it's *much* better if you know the backstory and have been watching the show instead of trying to just jump right in (though there are episodes where this would be fine).

I've watched SG-1 since it first aired in 1997 and can say that I've enjoyed it. Overall it's been quite good and it has had some stellar episodes. Atlantis struggled the first season, but has gotten better over time and I'm looking forward to the rest of the 3rd season.

Re:i've never seen the show... (1)

jimfinity (849860) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251048)

man, if you think voyager is the worst star trek....you're one lucky person although i'm not sure if i could even go so far as to call "enterprise" a star trek.

Re:i've never seen the show... (1)

PlasticArmyMan (967433) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251468)

You know, I always liked Voyager. The only thing that spoiled it was the absolute piss poor ending. You have about two minutes focus on Earth's solar system. That's it.

Re:i've never seen the show... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251074)

IMO that's a difficult to judge scale Farscape had some good and some bad. On average I think it would make for a decently high point to start from.

As far as SG1 goes I think you could find some episodes/storylines that are 0 worthy and some that are 10 worthy.
It was a good show overall, but it had some really terrible moments.

Re:i've never seen the show... (1)

sco08y (615665) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251098)

I'd give it around a 7, about the same as Next Generation after it started getting good.

The story is engaging, the acting is very good by American standards, and the characters are well developed. Quite often the science aspect of it is outstanding.

Downsides: the plots are often too neatly resolved (e.g. turning someone into an alien and then back again with no ill effects) and it has the same problem Deep Space Nine did in that everything revolves around the stargate. And it never builds the dramatic intensity that the new BSG does.

Re:i've never seen the show... (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251712)

I rank Sci Fi shows thusly:

1. BSG (2003)
Utterly amazing.

2. Star Trek DS9
Similarly utterly amazing.

3. Star Trek TNG and Star Trek Voyager (tied)
Damn cool.

4. Firefly
Great, but canceled too early.

5. Farscape
Great, but canceled too early.

6. Star Trek Enterprise
Good, but could have been as awesome as DS9 had it not been canceled so early.

7. Star Trek TOS
Decent, great for its time, some episodes are pretty timeless.

8. Babylon 5
Lots of potential drowns under bad writing. Too many monologues. Wooden characters. Only Londo and G'Kar were interesting, but didn't get anywhere near as much screentime as the boring characters.

9. Star Trek TAS
A travesty, but for hardcore Trek fans it's got some value. (Overly simplistic writing.)

10. Stargate SG1
Unresolvable technical problems in the premise and lots of filler.

11. Stargate Atlantis
Unresolvable technical problems in the premise and lots of filler.

12. BSG (1978)
Numerous unresolvable technical problems.

13. BSG (1980)
Numerous unresolvable technical problems.

14. Dr. Who
Slapstick comedy masquerading as science fiction.

Yay, just what I wanted (0)

rockhome (97505) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251004)

Another sub-par science fiction show with absolutely no substance or reason to watch. I can't wait for the predicatble plot lines and the one-dimensional archetypes that will make up the dramatis personnae. LEt me guess, there will be an irritable, gung-ho, military-style commander, some kind of socially dysfunctional scientist with expertise in any and all disciplines as called for in the script, some kind strong, independant woman, and an alien.

I can't wait to choose my costume for the con where I'll be able to nitpick the cast on small issues with continuity because the plots are so thin I can't ignore them.

Why can't somebody come up with something more orignal than yet another spin-off from an already crappy show that is itself a spin-off of a crappy movie?

Why not another Star Trek? Oh wait, with some minor modifcations, Stargate is Star Trek.

Re:Yay, just what I wanted (3, Insightful)

nmb3000 (741169) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251164)

Why not another Star Trek? Oh wait, with some minor modifcations, Stargate is Star Trek.

And with some minor modifications Star Trek is Doctor Who which with some minor modifications is Battlestar Galactica which is very similar to Lost in Space which seems a lot like Futurama, a show that brings back memories of Andromeda which is like that old show...

Science fiction based around space travel is simply a variation on a theme. Some guys have this thing (Stargate, Enterprise, TARDIS, Galactica, Jupiter 2, Planet Express) that takes them around the galaxy and they meet these bad guys and they have to outwit them and they do nice things and sometimes bad things and gosh that's all there is to it.

Some have more direction (new BSG, DS9) than others which just wander around (TNG, Dr Who) while some do a bit of both (SG1). Nobody is claiming that Stargate is a brilliant new idea, just that it's an idea it's been well executed and well received (based on it's 10 years on the air if nothing else).

Re:Yay, just what I wanted (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251900)

And with some minor modifications Star Trek is Doctor Who which with some minor modifications is Battlestar Galactica which is very similar to Lost in Space which seems a lot like Futurama, a show that brings back memories of Andromeda which is like that old show...

Its a shame because there is a lot of material out there. We seem to be filming anything written by Phillip Dick at the moment, but what about Gibsons Virtual Light, Heinleins Friday, Stephensons Snow Crash?

Re:Yay, just what I wanted (1)

drapeau06 (1010311) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251996)

My fear is that Keanu effectively kicked a killer William Gibson silver-screen film franchise in the nuts in Johnny Mnemonic.

Re:Yay, just what I wanted (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251538)

Yes it is a bit repetitive. But only a series like Stargate and SG:Atlantas could pull it off. They have some really great jokes and wit in there.

Why not another Star Trek? (1)

cyclomedia (882859) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251888)

yeah like Captain Wesley Crusher! [slashdot.org]

Maybe they can get good actors this time...? (1)

geekpuppySEA (724733) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251034)

Sci-fi can be any genre now - western (serenity), brooding drama (Battlestar Galactica), kids' show with puppets (all those Anakin movies.) Will the new incarnation have the same horrible acting that the old ones did - the sci fi equivalent of the poorly-scripted comedy that came on at 730 before the real thing came on at 8? Dear Sci Fi Channel producers: you CAN have a show that's good, and also not have it compete with your flagship Galactica. Please hire some actors / writers who can do more than make me cringe while I wait for Jamie Bamber and Caprica Six to show up.

Thank you (1)

fmlug.org (695374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251062)

Now if we could just get them to put Firefly back on the air. :)

Two words... (4, Funny)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251110)

Stargate Enterprise

Re:Two words... (2, Funny)

Hektor_Troy (262592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251236)

Sir... we can't call it the "Enterprise"

Re:Two words... (2, Interesting)

bheer (633842) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251862)

OT, but in case anyone listens to Ron Moore's BSG podcasts, you'll be astonished at how many times he's called the Galactica the 'Enterprise' so far.

Re:Two words... (1)

Cylix (55374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251290)

I like Starscape better....

I must admit, I was completely giddy during the 200th episode when they did the Farscape scene.

Good times...

Re:Two words... (1)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251322)

So: Carter wears absurdly tight clothing, but we have to see O'Neill tear his shirt every episode. Hmm...

Plot Summary (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251166)

A brief plot summary from the creator:

In the film Stargate, an alien device that comes to be known by that name is discovered in Egypt, in 1928. Daniel Jackson discovers its purpose in 1994: to create wormholes to similar devices across the galaxy, allowing travellers to reach distant planets. In Stargate SG-1, Jackson becomes part of a team called SG-1, alongside Jack O'Neill, Samantha Carter, and an alien named Teal'c. Stationed at the SGC, a top-secret military base, they begin on missions through the Stargate to find new technology or make allies, for the purpose of the defence of Earth from the dominant power of the galaxy, the evil Goa'uld.

The new show will be set approximately 30 to 40 years after the SG-1 team first used the Stargate (Stargate SG-1: "Children of the Gods"). According to the show, by that time the Stargate had become public knowledge, and some aliens had become citizens of Earth (or countries on Earth). A veteran member of the SGC, Major Gus Bonner leads a team of young recruits through the gate after being framed by an alien infiltrator of the hostile Tlak'kahn race (the Goa'uld having long since been defeated; this was written years before their defeat was even conceived on SG-1). The team must travel from world to world until they find the evidence to clear their names while learning about the unique cultures in the galaxy, alongside learning about themselves in the process.

The show will feature educational commentary or summaries about the moral lessons learned during the course of an episode, and because of this the upcoming series will nominally classified as Edutainment. I know that some longtime fans are bound to be skeptical of this approach, but we have some really good ideas for this that we think will really make it work.

Re:Plot Summary (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251772)

Mod parent down; this is the plot summary for the failed cartoon spinoff Stargate Infinity.

Series Premier (1)

Jerf (17166) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251200)

A routine expedition reveals what is clearly a one-way gateway of some kind (not necessarily a "Gate") to some faraway lost city-spaceship, perhaps not even in our universe proper, that promises vast new technologies, power sources, and weapons. But what really sets this apart from all the other floating tech/power/weapon depots is the promise that maybe, just maybe, this long lost depot will also including an automated schooling system so that we can actually use the fantastical powers within.

Immediately upon the arrival of the expeditionary team, modelled after the UN team but this time once again just American, the leaders of the expedition will find themselves whisked away to meet super-dooper Ascended beings, which the Ascended beings previously only suspected the existence of (not that they bothered to tell us), and make the Ascended beings look like tiny, wimpy children. One look at our gruff military hero with his background of killing and hitting and breaking and just generally, you know, surviving in our rough-and-tumble universe will convince our Super-Dooper Ascended beings that they really ought to consider pruning our entire multiverse due to excessive violence (since they, in their Super-Dooper Ascended state, haven't faced a threat to their existence in seventy-three trillion billion years, so they have totally forgotten what that's like), thus setting off a frantic five-season story arc to convince the Super-Dooper Ascended beings to not destroy us, or, failing all else, could you consider just destroying the Ori?

If we're lucky, our heros will fail. *smirk*

I like Stargate. I'd even say I like it a lot. But it was already a bit implausible that Our Heros could beat the Gua'uld. Not impossible, perhaps, given the Gua'ulds cultural weaknesses and their basic inability to band together meaningfully, but implausible. Taking on Ascended beings is just utterly unbelievable, and also has the problem of that basically being it. There's nothing above Ascended beings, really. Even if there is, it wouldn't really matter to us; how would we really distinguish between Ascended beings and my Super-Dooper Ascended, considering that Ascended beings already seem to possess the ability to throw us into an arbitrary simulation if they so chose? There really is no power above that from the human point of view; Ascended beings do not seem to be what you might call Gods of the Universe but they are basically Gods over individual material beings, able to fully control their minds, senses, etc.

I'm not sure Stargate needs a full re-boot in the comic book or the "Enterprise" sense, but they need to sit down and rethink what they want to be about: Do they want to be another Star Trek, which is where they are headed in many ways? Do they really need to have a Single Overarching Threat, especially given that they've basically maxed out that story line? Do they really want to become Yet Another Time Travel Show, which they've so far mostly managed to avoid but are in immanent danger of being sucked into that black hole? There's still a lot of interesting stories to be told, but only if they change some of their story arc templates.

And what is it about space exploration shows that inevitably turns them into space warfare shows?
"Do you remember when we used to be explorers?" - Captain Picard, Star Trek Insurrection

Re:Series Premier (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251444)

I'm not sure Stargate needs a full re-boot in the comic book or the "Enterprise" sense, but they need to sit down and rethink what they want to be about:

They need a reboot, but I don't think they ought to go down the "prequel" route, or the time traveler route. I mean, you'll have a showdown between the Ancients and Ori somehow, because the only thing keeping the Ori from wiping out mankind is the Ancients, ref. "when the wraith ships came, I reached out with my mind and with a single thought destroyed them all" and that was just one Ancient. It's time to break the Universe. Ancients vs Ori meet like matter meets anti-matter, they're both gone and you can basicly pull any stunt you want. Since it's the clash of the gods which breaks the world, you can have it happen once (not as a solution to every problem) and have it work well.

Re:Series Premier (1)

Zembar (803935) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251932)

And what is it about space exploration shows that inevitably turns them into space warfare shows?
The same things that make real exploration end in real warfare. Unless you're willing to make the case that Cortez had milk and cookies with the natives he encountered.

Third? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251216)

What about Stargate Infinity?

This is the most blatant attempt to ignore a cartoon series' futuristic, nonsensical storyline since Highlander: The Animated Series.

Re:Third? (1)

Andrew Kismet (955764) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251500)

Say it three times and we can pretend it doesn't exist:
They did it for the lulz,
They did it for the lulz,
They did it for the lulz.

New series name... (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251244)

SG-2.0

Every week they travel to unimaginable worlds, meet (and kill) new people, then write about it on their SG blogs ...

Wake me if Claudia Black shows up.

Can we please not have another McKay character? (3, Interesting)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251284)

Can we please please please not have another jarring character like McKay like in Stargate: Atlantis? Not only is he completely over-the-top antisocial, but he seems to make everyone around him lose any sense of tact that they might otherwise have had.

And that formula of having McKay/Carter start explaining the technical details of something, only to be interrupted by the superior officer who doesn't understand the jargon, is getting very very tired. Please kill it.

Re:Can we please not have another McKay character? (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251698)

You're right about the annoying tech explanations, but McKay's the only joke vehicle on the show. Maybe he could just get a head injury and go retarded. Then he can be joke-fuel and not be the ridiculous tech-God device anymore.

Re:Can we please not have another McKay character? (4, Informative)

Bo'Bob'O (95398) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251730)

McKay has been one of the few SG characters that have shown any sort of development, having to learn to BE social, respect other people, work as part of a team both in the field and in the lab. Carter on the other hand, seems some sort of super human, is almost exactly the same as she was when the series started, and is about the most boring character on the show.

Yes, the technical mumbo-jumbo thing is irritating, but thats simply a sign of bad writing. It's a plot device or easy deis ex machena that they try and legitimize, but they are by far not the only show to be guilty of it.

I'd by far rather see an end to the lame warrior-types, I've seen more character depth from pre-gen D&D character sheets.

canada, eh? (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251318)

I would not be surprised if they did an alternate reality or sequel to SG-1 series where Canada gets a gate, since that's where it's made and that's where a lot of the people who work on it are from. As long as it's got furry little Furlongs that look like the Ewoks' cousins, I'll be happy!

Re:canada, eh? (2, Funny)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251340)

Unfortunately, all the technical jargon would have to be in an incomprehensible dead language.

Re:canada, eh? (1)

ardin,mcallister (924615) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251686)

Since when does canada have an Army.. or even a government? Isn't it the 52nd state? Right after Mexico, of course.

Fpp[ goat! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251356)

I'd love to see "Ba'al, the early years" (3, Interesting)

kellererik (307956) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251388)

Seriously, of all the villains, he is the one I really like. OK, doesn't have to be the early years, I want to see Cliff Simon playing the character. But showing the other side of the fence could be interesting.

IMHO, of course.

As foretold in in the series itself... (1)

xenoarch (817676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251448)

StarGate: Wormhole Extreme

Why not compare it to The Sopranos? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251566)

Most sci-fi on TV is garbage. Most TV is garbage, but the small amount of science fiction on there is conspicuously bad. For every Next Generation or Twilight Zone, there are dozens of Stargate Atlantis's and worse.

Why are people hoping that it will be better than Enterprise? Instead, why not hope that it does for science fiction what Deadwood did for the western. Or why not wish that it was better than, say, the Simpsons? Aiming low, which is what the Sci-Fi Channel does anyway, will only get you more junk.

NICE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251660)

They can REALLY take the Stargate universe places. I'd like to see some MASSIVE intergalactic war or something, with some way out there technologies and aliens that look in NO WAY humanoid.
Lets go Stargate! Impress me again! /rabid stargate fan

How about existing plotlines (1)

drwho (4190) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251722)

During the ten seasons, the SG1 team has managed to piss off a lot of people, both on Earth and other places, and I don't mean just the Goa'uld. There's enough loose ends out there to weave together to create a practical united foe against SGC/Earth. For instance, what if someone survived from Euronda, joined up with some guys (The Trust or not - it would be interesting for us to find out what schisms happened within the NID/Trust/etc) who had become stranded off earth when using the second gate (i.e. we find out that O'Neill's double-crossing didn't clean up the whole nest of them), and manage to bust Loki out of whatever jail the Asgard are holding him in. Maybe they do some commerce with Ba'al. I'd love to see this, but it would become really confusing for people who haven't followed the series for ten years, unless it is very carefully written. This is in fact something I could do. I am available for hire :)

frisT psot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251754)

And easy - only It's beSt to try

BIG BOOM! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17251768)

All I gotta say is shit better blow up!
big boom
BIG BOOM!

Please translate from Marketing-speak (1)

OldManAndTheC++ (723450) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251820)

Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works

In what way is it exclusive? Perhaps it excludes plot, character development, and good writing?

The new series is in the concept phase

OK...

and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis

Stop. Back up. What the hell is a "creative"? In my dictionary that's an adjective, not a noun. Nounizing adjectives is almost as bad as verbifying nouns...

No concept for the show has yet been revealed

which must be a tricky thing, since it is in the "concept phase". I think I'll wait for the "being phase" (assuming it gets the green light), or the "nothingness phase" (assuming it doesn't), before deciding that this is worthy of attention.

the series is likely for a 2007 debut

Keerist. I give up.

hmmm... (1)

TB (7206) | more than 7 years ago | (#17251890)

So theyve had Altantis, where they live on an alien base next door to the only worm hole which takes them to a place far away, so I guess next they must get lost and have to find home while adopting a hot replicator chick and finding a new drive but not being able to use it till they get home after that episode with geordi.

The US government only has so much money. (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252014)

So I wonder where they will base their operations. At Stargate Command? They already have a series in production which was supposed to be different to SG1. Will this new series be cut off from Earth again or will they operate from Earth HQ?

Re:The US government only has so much money. (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#17252028)

I forgot to add. This isn't like Star Trek either where they have huge resources so the show can be based anywhere, like DS9 or VOY and stay believable. On the upside, if they do base it from earth, they get to keep the current sets, the show will be cheaper to produce won't it? You'll also keep the base Commander that keeps appearing in Atlantis as well.
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