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Nintendo To Replace Wiimote Wrist Straps

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the avoiding-flying-wiimotes-seems-like-a-good-thing dept.

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Kotaku has word that, after much giggling and photo-taking, Nintendo is replacing all of the Wiimote straps shipped with the original release of the console. There is a strap replacement form available, to get new straps sent to you. From the article: "Once your replacement wrist strap has shipped, you will receive a confirmation email from Nintendo. We expect to begin shipping replacement straps around December 21st. It will take 5 to 9 days for delivery depending on your location. Please do not contact Nintendo regarding your replacement wrist strap until after that time period has passed. We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your interest in our products." Update: 12/15 17:07 GMT by Z : I used the right term here in the text, but Edge Online notes that recall is not the right term to use here. Title corrected.

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Someone show this to Sony (5, Insightful)

k_187 (61692) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254104)

This is how a company should react when they screw up.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (5, Interesting)

AnswerIs42 (622520) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254400)

But it is not really a screwup.. the straps perform perfectly with normal use.. it is the "over excited" players that break their straps. And it is also not wide spread issues.. I have only found a few (under 50) confirmed cases of the strap breaking.. and every one of the cases.. the user was whipping and throwing their arm everywhere.

Though... Penny Arcade explained the reasons better... http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/11/29 [penny-arcade.com]

Beat me to it. More kudos to Nintendo. (5, Insightful)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254704)

You're absolutely correct. It's not Nintendo's fault that people are getting too emotionally involved with their games.

But this replacement is something else that makes Nintendo win kudos from me. Not only are they not playing the CPU/graphics/power marketing bullsh*t, they're actually going to take the time and financial expense of replacing items that as far as I'm concerned they are not responsible for replacing. They're taking the high road. In fact, they tower above those idiots at Sony. Remember their rootkit attitude? "If you don't know it's there, it shouldn't bother you. What's all the fuss about?"

Just because of things like this, I'll be more apt to pay for things like the virtual console instead of trying to hack it to play older games for free. Actions like this deserve loyalty and honest purchases.

Re:Beat me to it. More kudos to Nintendo. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17254844)


Just because of things like this, I'll be more apt to pay for things like the virtual console instead of trying to hack it to play older games for free. Actions like this deserve loyalty and honest purchases.


Dude, I love Nintendo too, but every retrogamer in here knows you're astroturfing.

Re:Beat me to it. More kudos to Nintendo. (5, Insightful)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254980)

Not only are you completely wrong, the fact that you don't have the balls to post under your real user ID doesn't give you any credibility anyway. See, unlike those who think, "Hey, if I can get it for free, I should get it for free!", an idea that is somewhat prevalent on Slashdot, I firmly believe that the best way to keep a company that you appreciate in business is to -- horrors! -- actually buying from them is actually a good way to do that!

Imagine that.

My karma's fine, so I have no need for astroturfing. How's your karma? Oh, wait. You posted AC. Nevermind.

Re:Beat me to it. More kudos to Nintendo. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17255400)

I sure wish I had some modpoints, if only for access to the obviously excellent crack. Can't remember password, don't have 'wallet', oops.

Re:Beat me to it. More kudos to Nintendo. (0, Troll)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256584)

Actions like this deserve loyalty and honest purchases.

And, much like your [slashdot.org] previous [slashdot.org] posts [slashdot.org] , you will be there to remind us that Nintendo has your undying loyalty.

Oh, please. (2, Insightful)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257126)

But, unlike "fanbois", Nintendo has my loyalty because they've earned it, not because it might or might not be fashionable or because it's the coolest thing or because it makes me seem 1337 or whatever. That's an important difference, especially when most XBox 360 and PS3 fans appear to have their fandom based more on the geek factors - speed, power, graphics, etc. Whereas I'd prefer to have a company that offers both excellent customer service and newest-generation technology, if only given a choice of one I'll take the company that actually treats me like a customer.

That said, my loyalty to them is by no means undying. My support for them could change on a dime. If Nintendo starts acting like jerks, any loyalty to them will disappear, unlike what true "fanbois" would do, which would most likely be to make excuses.

How ironic that on a site that seeps Linux fandom on a regular basis I should be chastised for showing my support a company who currently deserves my support. I wonder if you feel the same kind of disdain for those who are as quick to blame Nintendo.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17254932)

Sorry, but I'd consider 'whipping and throwing of arms' normal behavior. The reason for this simply gamer emulsion. Did Nintendo really think the players weren't going to 'GET INTO THE GAME', and possibly forget about doing damage to the Wiimote, or themselves? If they did, they didn't do enough beta testing with market demographics.

I do applaud Nintendo in stepping up to the plate on this and replacing the straps, though I've also heard it is not just the strap breaking, but a piece of plastic on the Wiimote holding the strap. Either way, this shows Nintendo is actaully in tune with its customers and knows that recognizing that scores more points in the public eye than an entire Marketing Dept. could achieve with all the company assets.

Kudos to you Nintendo. You actually 'GET IT'!

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

Psiven (302490) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255082)

Nintendo doesn't really beta test because they are so secretive. The most they tested was letting board members and employee familys come in to play.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (3, Informative)

DeadMilkman (855027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256128)

What the heck are you talking about?

Nintendo ALWAYS does massive beta test, PUBLIC beta tests, Real world usage beta test.

There were all KINDS of wonderful secretive "get the word out" Wii parties going on. (part of the Wii ambassador program)

Here I'll link a few:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=6254 [gonintendo.com]
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/secret-wii-partie s-start-in-september-194866.php [kotaku.com]
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message? board.id=General&message.id=38275 [nintendo.com]
http://picturethis.clubmom.com/picture_this/2006/0 9/picture_nintend.html [clubmom.com]

Re:Someone show this to Sony (4, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255640)

Sorry, but I'd consider 'whipping and throwing of arms' normal behavior.

Go watch this video [youtube.com] , then tell me it's normal behavior. (Make sure you have the sound on so you can hear the heart-sinking WHAM!) Excited or not, I don't think anyone reasonably expected players to be trying to throw 100 MPH pitches!

Although, I find it interesting that every case of strap breakage has had only one outcome for the Wiimote: It still works! I mean, if you watch the video above, you'd think that it's in a million pieces after that. Nope, he picks it up and tries to throw another 100 MPH pitch. (!)

The reason for this simply gamer emulsion. Did Nintendo really think the players weren't going to 'GET INTO THE GAME', and possibly forget about doing damage to the Wiimote, or themselves?

Of course Nintendo realized that. That's why there are 3,462.70871 warnings about clearing your space, wearing the wrist strap, not using the Nunchuck for this game, etc. Nintendo just didn't expect people to throw with enough force to break their straps and send their Wiimotes crashing through thick panes of glass.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (4, Insightful)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256768)

I'm going to wait for the announcement 2 months from the recall about gamers who's wrists are being injured because when they throw the Wiimote the strap doesn't brake and there is too much force put on their wrist.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (5, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256914)

Although, I find it interesting that every case of strap breakage has had only one outcome for the Wiimote: It still works! I mean, if you watch the video above, you'd think that it's in a million pieces after that. Nope, he picks it up and tries to throw another 100 MPH pitch. (!)

That's actually what I find the oddest about this situation. Nintendo has, historically, made extremely durable hardware. Much more durable than there is any sane justification for. I remember way back in the day a letter to Nintendo Power about a family who (somehow, accidentally) ran over their NES with a Lincoln Continental. They had to unscrew it and re-seat the casing so cartriges would fit, but then it worked just fine. Who on earth would expect that? Here you see someone throwing a controller full force directly into a wall, and it works just fine.

Hence I'm rather surprised that the wiimote strap wasn't over-engineered beyond what Nintendo expected people would do such that it would still manage quite well when abused in ways Nintendo hadn't imagined. If instead of videos of the wrist strap breaking, YouTube had videos of people hooking the strap over something and doing pullups on it, I would not have been surprised.

Given their history and engineering standards, it's quite possible that from Nintendo's persective they do consider this a failure on their part.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (4, Informative)

Thansal (999464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257294)

heh, I also rember that one.

Also a quick google for "gameboy iraq" will pull up a number of refferences to the gameboy that the Nintendo World Store in NYC has on display. The thing is fusedtogether after going through a bombing of a barak in desert storm. The awsome part is that it still plays tetris (sure, it needs an AC adapter, and some of the lines are dead, but it is still awsome :P)

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

dctoastman (995251) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257772)

Actually, he was playing tennis. But the point holds. You are not Agassi.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (5, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255488)

But it is not really a screwup.. the straps perform perfectly with normal use.. it is the "over excited" players that break their straps. And it is also not wide spread issues.. I have only found a few (under 50) confirmed cases of the strap breaking.. and every one of the cases.. the user was whipping and throwing their arm everywhere.


I love Nintendo and I mostly agree with what you've said, but I do think Nintendo made a bit of a mis-step here. True, the owners are getting 'over excited' and they aren't using it correctly. I do feel, though, that Nintendo does share at least some of responsibility about it.

I don't imagine my opinion will be too popular, so I'll explain my thought process a little better. (Hopefully this'll prove at least that I'm not intentionally trying to troll.) I've been thinking about this a lot over the last week after being bombarded with pictures of broken TV's and black eyes. The first question I asked myself was: "How would I feel if this were Sony in Nintendo's shoes?" The answer is: "Geez, they're hyping up natural motion of the controller and it didn't occur to them to use thicker straps?!" I'm trying to be fair, I don't want to praise Nintendo for something I wouldn't forgive Sony for.

I think Nintendo should have included the thicker straps originally. But I have to be honest, this isn't exactly a big dramatic issue with me. If Nintendo had never responded to the breaking straps issue, I wouldn't have paid much attention to it. This is more of a 'hindsight is 20/20' thought than some opinion blown out of proportion.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (5, Insightful)

fistfullast33l (819270) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255904)

I'll agree with you too. Nintendo might not have anticipated gamers getting really excited, but blaming players for having way too much fun playing games? Hello, it's a game. You want people to engage in physical activity, but not too much? The whole product has been billed as a way to break out of the static gaming environment of the past and into a more active setting, and yet they are surprised that people are excited and sweating and such?

I think that they have reacted properly but let's not place the blame on anyone here. Nintendo underestimated the response, gamers were excited and engaged, an unforseen problem happened, and Nintendo resolved it. End of story.

What were they thinking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17255564)

No everyone on the planet is a 5'2 Japanese teenager.

Re:What were they thinking (1)

Mdentari (979766) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256672)

You mean "Not" don't you. What you said is funny and true at the same time nevertheless. Japanese engineering can be genius but in my travels and dealings in Japan their attitude towards anyone not typically Japanese in thinking and size, they tend not to think about. Things are changing very, very slowly (I should put another emphasis on another 'very' just to get my point across). If you bring up an idea as an unproven outsider even if the idea makes sense and is proven true latter then still expect to start at square one with the team as you've just embarrassed the team leader. There can also be a huge communication gap between outside parties and the Japanese. No one wants to be shown as weak in other countries languages so they often don't communicate very much. Also input into a team from an outsider, even Japanese in the same company is ignored because a) How can they understand us and how can they understand the team since they have never been a part of it. Very frustrating. I really love the Japanese culture but not this part of it. So now I tend to buy products that have a complete feature set from Japan regardless and not things that will require some kind of upgrade or patch as I know the chances for prompt response to complaints will be slow if any. Those extra layers can be a pain to overcome.

Re:What were they thinking (0, Offtopic)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257372)

You mean "Not" don't you. What you said is funny and true at the same time nevertheless. Japanese engineering can be genius but in my travels and dealings in Japan their attitude towards anyone not typically Japanese in thinking and size, they tend not to think about.

Oh man, I'm 6'7" and I drive a Subaru Impreza. This car really stands out as the Japanese car with the most headroom I've ever been in... but there is basically zero leg room and the power window switch crap digs RIGHT in between my kneecap and whatever bone that is next to it and fucking kills me. I'm going to have to look into hiding that switch block and replacing the panel in the door from a JDM car with that thing on the right side, and a smooth panel with one switch on the left before I lose the use of my left leg entirely :P

Re:Someone show this to Sony (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256090)

Sure, if the controller goes flying, it is the fault of the user. But the strap still shouldn't break too easily.

It's like any other safety feature. It's supposed to provide reasonably effective protection when things go wrong.

If Ford decides to make my seat belt out of tissue paper, then they are partly to blame when I go flying through the windscreen... even though the actual collision was not their fault at all.

I've never handled a Wiimote, so I can't judge whether the strap is reasonably good or not.

But as a guideline, I'd say that it should AT LEAST be able to withstand tougher treatment than the sort of lanyard you find on a camera or a GPS unit, since you don't normally use those items by swinging them around in the air. On the other hand, it really doesn't need to be any more secure than the string on a yo-yo.

[Of course, in comparing these strings, it is not just a question of how much weight they support, but also how much they stretch. Stretchiness helps out a lot, since it spreads out what would otherwise be a large specific impulse.]

Re:Someone show this to Sony (2, Insightful)

ProppaT (557551) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254436)

Number one, Nintendo didn't screw up. Seriously, unless you're a pro ball player, you're not going to be able to throw that remote hard enough to get close to snapping the strap. And if you throw it enough to wear it down overtime, apparently you're not learning your lesson.

However, I do agree that Sony should learn a lesson. One thing that Nintendo has ALWAYS excelled at is customer service. Nintendo is replacing the straps as good PR, not because they need replaced. Just as Nintendo was taking trading out DS's with as little as one dead pixel on the screen when they came out. Nintendo realizes that they're in the entertainment industry and as such they need to keep their customers happy...which is nice for a change...

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256588)

so all the people i've watched busting straps on youtube are pro ball players? wow. what teams do they play for?

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257582)

Number one, Nintendo didn't screw up. Seriously, unless you're a pro ball player, you're not going to be able to throw that remote hard enough to get close to snapping the strap. And if you throw it enough to wear it down overtime, apparently you're not learning your lesson.

So what you're saying is that pro ball players shouldn't play the Wii? I thought it was the console for everyone!

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

webrunner (108849) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257656)

Most of the problem is with Bowling. The trick is this:

1. In bowling, you try to swing as hard as possible
2. At the bottom of your swing, you are told to release the B button. The B button is the index finger, and if you release it too much then you significantly lower the amount of grip you have.
3. If you lose your grip at the bottom, it'll head straight for the television.

It's still ridiculous but it's more understandable, knowing this.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (4, Informative)

Megane (129182) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254526)

This is how a company should react when they screw up.

This isn't the first time they've done such a thing, nor the biggest. The Famicom recall [wikipedia.org] of 1983 set a precedent, after which Microsoft's failure to promptly recall the Xbox when it had launch problems probably was what really cost themthe Japanese market. After that, recalling a bunch of piddly wrist straps that cost more to ship than they do to manufacture is nothing.

And in fact, this is how Japanese businesses typically behave in the Japanese market. Taking responsibility, sometimes more than they deserve blame for, and making it right, even if it means the president of the company has to go from Okinawa to Hokkaido and personally ring doorbells and apologize to everyone who was wronged.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (4, Informative)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255096)

And in fact, this is how Japanese businesses typically behave in the Japanese market. Taking responsibility, sometimes more than they deserve blame for, and making it right, even if it means the president of the company has to go from Okinawa to Hokkaido and personally ring doorbells and apologize to everyone who was wronged.


No, this isn't how every Japanese business behaves. Many companies have covered up and denied problems, it's no different than Western companies. In fact, it's customary for companies there to cover up problems, quietly address them and release those fixes in subsequent models. Mitsubishi a few years ago was discovered to be covering up defects in their automobiles. I think one of their own veteran test drivers, who had been very loyal to the company ultimately helped to disclose these problems. There have been cases where people have gotten sick at restaurants and they offer a palty sum of money, not even enough to cover medical expenses. And, the last time I check Sony was a Japanese company and they've tried covering up countless problems and in fact have often failed to recall defective products.

If anything, it's easier for companies to get away with this in Japan than it is in the US because Japanese are a lot less likely to become vocal and try to fight a big company. They certianly don't engage in lawsuits like Americans do.

I do agree, however, that when someone is has been uncovered of wrongdoing they will openly apologize for it. In the US corporate management will deny everything and make excuses to the bitter end. In Japan they'll hold a press conference and make a direct apology to everyone, stating how they've shamed themselves, their family and their company. You'd never see that in the US. Then again, many Americans think money is the best form of apology and a CEO apologizing would be seen as an admission of guilt and thus paving the way for a lawsuit.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

Thraxen (455388) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256026)

That's not what cost XBox the Japanese market at all. The first Xbox didn't have any widespread issues. Also, the PSX, PS2, and PS3 all had widespread problems that Sony chose to ignore for a long time and they all sold just fine.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

Thraxen (455388) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256206)

Actually, I guess I should say that the first Xbox didn't have any widespread launch issues. A couple months after launch the XBox's with Thomson drives started having issues (DDEs), but considering the PS2 suffered from the same problem I don't think you can claim that MS's lack of response to issues it what what them the market.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256400)

And in fact, this is how Japanese businesses typically behave in the Japanese market. Taking responsibility

Sony is Japanese.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

kabocox (199019) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256896)

And in fact, this is how Japanese businesses typically behave in the Japanese market. Taking responsibility, sometimes more than they deserve blame for, and making it right, even if it means the president of the company has to go from Okinawa to Hokkaido and personally ring doorbells and apologize to everyone who was wronged.

It's that attitude that will win in the US consumer market as well. When you have one company that will bend over backwards from CEO down to make it right, consumers remember. I hope this attitude spreads to US companies and CEOs.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255880)

You know very well that if it was Sony's wriststraps breaking in exactly the same way, the fanboys would be tearing them to pieces. But because it's Nintendo they get away with it. But then it wouldn't be a Zonk article without the obligatory Sony-bashing, even when the story has nothing to do with Sony.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256216)

Given Sony's current track record, if it was Sony's wrist straps breaking, they wouldn't have even admitted that they were breaking, let alone replacing them. Hell, from what I've gathered, this isn't that big of a problem for Nintendo AND THEY'RE STILL FIXING IT. Sony only catches shit for their screw-ups because they deserve it.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256396)

Pinching a few pennies and shipping a weaker strap is how "companies should react?" Wow.

Though worse is the fanboy apologists -- how could Nintendo know that people were going to swing their arms fast using our controller with a game that rewards the player for fast swinging motions.

Nintendo's "we'll send you another strap" is standard CYA. It is as "customer friendly" as their "Sorry we controlled the supply of games through a bogus "seal of quality" program. Here's a $5 coupon for another game."

While Nintendo is better than Sony in fixing their mistakes, they shouldn't be applauded for creating the mistake.

Re:Someone show this to Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17257406)

Sony recalls it's a disaster... Nintendo recalls it's a good on them. Fanboy much?

PA got it right (5, Funny)

ack154 (591432) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254114)

I think this about sums it up [penny-arcade.com] .

Though no matter what the fault here, good for Nintendo to listen to the consumers and actually do something about it. Good PR, IMO.

Re:PA got it right (2, Funny)

amstrad (60839) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254328)

And this one: You Know It To Be True [penny-arcade.com]

Re:PA got it right (1)

ack154 (591432) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254456)

Ya, I forgot about that one. Nice save. :)

Both of them really do add up to "not necessarily Nintendo's problem." Which is why it's very cool of them to step up and make their customers happy. Of course... I'm sure a new TV for a couple of them would make them more happy, but hey, it's a start.

Re:PA got it right (1)

nickyj (142376) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256292)

I hope they finish off that comic, I would like to see it in a completed way.

Re:PA got it right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256406)

who said thats redundant? i dont think that word means what you think it means.

OMG!!! (1)

OxygenPenguin (785248) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254146)

Seriously, my girlfriend and I were just talking about whether or not Nintendo would cave in to the mountain of people throwing their wiimotes through their big screen tv's or no. I'm glad that I don't have one right now, because she definitely would....

not a recall (4, Informative)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254176)

This isn't a recall. This is for people too stupid to hold on to something while they swing it. The strap was designed to prevent people from dropping it, not to stop a remote traveling at 60+ MPH.

"As of Monday, anyone who has any problems or concerns about the integrity of their Wii Remote wrist straps can call Nintendo Customer Services for a replacement strap. This is not a product recall. The current wrist strap is fine - it has passed all safely standards and does the job. This is simply a precaution because we are aware of the concerns over their safety. All new Wii Remotes and Wii consoles will ship with the new, thicker wrist strap. Even though the original straps are perfectly adequate for normal play, we can't control the exuberance of players."

Re:not a recall (5, Insightful)

justinbach (1002761) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254306)

This is for people too stupid to hold on to something while they swing it.


While I mostly agree with you about this (I'm the proud owner of a Wii and I have *never* accidentally let go of the wiimote), there's no question that it's a good move by Nintendo because the wii was designed to be played by lots of people. Like so many others, I've been astounded by how gaming n00bs have totally taken to the wii; my gf (who was certain that the wii would be the end of our relationship) now beats me at Wii Sports Golf regularly. Obviously, I've embraced how easy to pick up and play the wii is, and am happily amazed by how many people play it at parties and get really, really into it.

Having said that (and as much as I love watching people have fun with the new toy), I get really nervous about people getting so into it that they forget they're just playing a game, and I can't count the number of times that n00bs at my house have accidentally let go of the controller, while, say, power bowling. This weekend, a wrist strap finally snapped, and though the wiimote went flying, it thankfully missed the tv and bounced harmlessly off the wall.

Class act by Nintendo! Now I can revel in watching my stupid friends play Nintendo without freaking out on the inside about whether I'm about to end up like one of these guys! [wiihaveaproblem.com]

Re:not a recall (2, Insightful)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254406)

I understand what you are saying but not letting go of something has absolutely nothing to do with gaming experience. I can imagine the conversation back at NCL went like this...

boss type guy: wiimotes flying into things? I need to see strap guy about this...

strap guy: hey boss.

boss: did you test the strap to see if it could withstand the forces generated on it by a wiimote going 50+ mph?

strap guy: why would I? you aren't supposed to throw it, in fact there is a safety screen to that effect in every game, sometimes more than one.

Re:not a recall (1)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254620)

Safety screen. Funny. My guess though, is that most people don't know the exact MPH definition of "vigorous" and possibly don't know exactly how many MPH their arms are capable of. Maybe with that in mind, and the fact that the "safety screen" doesn't physically restrain them, people might possibly make the assumption that the way they're swingin' the thing is the way that thing was meant to be swung.

TW

Re:not a recall (2, Funny)

Headcase88 (828620) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256658)

Maybe they should make new Wii remotes that emit some sort of electrical shock if you're using it wrong. Here's a bonus: make the power of the electrical shock proportional to how stupidly they're swinging the remote. If the maximum shock is strong enough, we can bring some Darwinism into play.

Re:not a recall (2, Interesting)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257362)

Actually, this is a great, potentiality workable idea if you replace "shock" with "sound". An audible tone, especially if it was a really annoying one, would not only encourage you to swing slower, but encourage peer pressure from those on the sidelines. Heck, if I was the owner of the box and my buddy was constantly making the Wiimote sound off, I might want to direct him over to the safer Gamecube instead.

Heres another idea. They could pause the game for 5 seconds if you swing too wildly. That would definitely be annoying enough to get you to slow down. They could have it set in the options panel so you choose game stutter or tone. I'll bet it would really cut down on the potential lawsuits too.

Re:not a recall (3, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257308)

boss: did you test the strap to see if it could withstand the forces generated on it by a wiimote going 50+ mph?

strap guy: why would I? you aren't supposed to throw it, in fact there is a safety screen to that effect in every game, sometimes more than one.


case guy: I tested it. Case can withstand impact into cement wall when thrown by pro baseball pitcher. Both fastball and curve.

electronics guy: I also tested it. Accelerometers and PCB remain functional when experiencing forces like blow from karate master.

strap guy: Shut up, guys. You aren't helping me here.

boss: Hm, true, we have no reports of broken controllers, only straps. But we do have that warning screen right?

warning screen guy: Yes, but nobody reads warnings. Ask U.S. Surgeon General.

strap guy: Shut up!

That's basically the problem. As you can tell from the fact that even after being hurled at 50+ mph the wiimote still works, Nintendo usually has a very high standard of durability. It's unusual that Nintendo would let something like this slip. Especially when the entire purpose of the strap is to prevent the wiimote from flying off if someone accidentally lets go of it. If there was anything that should have been engineered beyond the expected limits, it's the safety strap.

I don't really think it's Nintendo's "fault", as in I don't think they are shipping a negligently shoddy product. I do expect more from Nintendo though. I do think their response is the correct one, and a classy one to boot.

Re:not a recall (1)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254356)

Actually, the documentation says otherwise, as does the construction of the strap itself. Nintendo clearly meant this strap to keep it from flying out of the operator's hands during normal use. Unfortunately, they also designed several of their games to encourage quite vigorous arm actions. "60+ MPH" movements are most certainly "normal" in this context.

BTW, ever notice that the Wiimote is smooth plastic without a hint of texturing or a rubberized surface to help hold it in place? I see this as an "upgrade" opportunity for the future, because we all know it doesn't make sense to call it a "recall".

TW

P.S. My very much not "stupid" friend has a dent in his ceiling. Thankfully his TV is intact.

Re:not a recall (1)

IceCreamGuy (904648) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254776)

They already have those (I got some with the Triforce) and they're amazing. They're really comfy and pretty stylish, most people that haven't seen the Wii before just assume that's how they come. Froogle "Wii remote covers" and you can find a couple different brands. If I had to buy a Wii again I would get these first thing.

Re:not a recall (1)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254448)

Yeah, I've been wondering to what extent a company should have to anticipate how badly abused their product will be; if you assume that the Wii wrist strap needed to be able to tolerate a 280 pound man widly throwing a Wiimote, wouldn't you also assume that a Plasma/LCD screen should be able to tolerate the impact of the Wiimote on the screen?

There is probably no nice, clean aswer to this, but I wonder to what extent companies should be liable for damage caused by their product when used inappropriately.

Re:not a recall (1)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255062)

None, by definition someone using the equipment 'inappropriately' is not following guidelines laid out in the manual, for example. Otherwise they'd be using it 'appropriately'.

Re:not a recall (1)

IceCreamGuy (904648) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254634)

I don't know if you own a Wii or not, but I think you're being a little opinionated about the issue. We've never had any incidents at my place, however it's pretty easy to see how one could let go of the remote. For instance, in bowling you release the trigger button to release the ball; when you really get into it, you sometimes bowl pretty hard and it's not difficult to imagine letting go of the entire remote when you let go of B. After all, you're supposed to be bowling, letting go of the ball, and you're already letting go of the trigger, which is your main grip on the remote. It certainly, however, was not merely "designed to prevent people from dropping it..." to get to any actual sports gameplay, you have to sit through at least three unskippable, five-seconds-at-least full-screen warnings about putting on and tightening the wrist strap every time you boot up the console. I'm pretty sure they had more in mind than just dropping it. On that matter as well, It's pretty obvious you could drop a remote from ten feet onto cement and it would be fine, they're very sturdily built. Personally, I'm going to get the new wrist straps to give me free reign to be "stupid."

Re:not a recall (1)

El Gigante de Justic (994299) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256650)

I think what would have prevented some of this problem is if Wii Sports included reminders to make smooth gentle motions, like it mentions in the manual. Wii Sports is most player's first exposure on the Wii and most people will do stupid stuff like swing their arm as hard as they can because 1) they don't understand how the technology actually works and how it has a built in acceleration limit and 2) they haven't figured out yet that movign your arm that hard is actually less effective and will make your shoulder hurt.
      For any of the Wii sports games, like baseball, it's much more effective to just make wrist flicks for "fast" motions, because the system is measuring acceleration of the wii-mote, not the actual motion of your arm. As for the wrist straps being sufficient for normal gameplay - this is entirely true because Wii Sports is basically the only game that invokes a significant amount of arm flailing. If you actually tried moving your arm that much in Zelda, you'd be warn out pretty quickly; that's why most action games so far recognize a "jiggle" motion.

Re:not a recall (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256830)

Even though the original straps are perfectly adequate for normal play, we can't control the exuberance of players.
 
So which game console should I get if I am an exuberant player? Really? I mean here is a statement from a company that sells a gaming product that releases a statement saying if you're too into it and excited while playing our game, than maybe this isn't the game for you. WTF.
 
I've never played it myself, but I can picture a) sweaty geek hands, b) slipped while bowling (and I mean slipped, all the nay-sayers are saying you should hold it - well freakin duh, no shit sherlock, have you heard of slipping, it is plastic and in every case I've read - it slipped), c) I've seen pictures of that strap, it's almost not a strap, it's super thin at the base and visually looks easily breakable, was it that hard to design? I'm seriously already expecting that a Wii version 2 will be out by sometime next year.
 
Not bashing the Wii though, I'm just in shock at their statement (which I think goes against there advertising where they seem to be expecting people to get exuberant about playing with their Wii) and the fact that it is such a tiny flaw in the design - i'd have expected it to be a sturdy strap, why is it there at all if it isn't useful as a safety catch? What freakin purpose does it have then? It's a male nipple.

just in time (3, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254266)

My straps were starting to fray, and I was contemplating several ghetto-style solutions...

Re:just in time (1)

antiaktiv (848995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254348)

Super glue?

Re:just in time (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254422)

You still have about 2 weeks before your replacement arrives (assuming you are in USA/Canada - thats all the options on the site give)
Unless you want to risk disaster you should consider looking for a replacement anyway.
If you have an old camera or umbrella handy, most of the straps I see are similar to requirements, maybe yours could work as a temp replacement.

Be creative.

Ghetto Solution (1)

WillyMF1 (867862) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255442)

I wouldn't mind seeing a ghetto style BLING-BLING solution. Pimp my Wiimote!!!

Re:Ghetto Solution (1)

Headcase88 (828620) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256806)

Well... duct tape is shiny.

Alternate solution (3, Funny)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254320)

I have already implemented this [nintendowiifanboy.com] solution so I should be safe.

Re:Alternate solution (2, Funny)

frankthechicken (607647) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254494)

That just wasn't hard core enough for me, I decided to Rhino glue the remote to my hands, though I have now been given the unfortunate nickname of Edward Wiihands

You can't fix stupid (5, Interesting)

MysticOne (142751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254332)

My wife and I got a Wii on launch day in the US, and haven't ever had a problem with the Wiimotes flying out of our hands. We've played some vigorous Wiisports sessions, lots of Zelda, Rayman, all sorts of stuff. The closest we ever came to a mishap was when I misjudged my position in relation to our ceiling fan, and smacked the light with the Wiimote. The strap isn't meant to keep the Wiimote from flying away when you throw it, but to prevent you from dropping the Wiimote. The people in all the videos, when they're actually wearing the straps, aren't casually letting go. They're throwing the fuckers as hard as they can. Personally, I think if you're stupid enough to do that, you probably need to just go without a Wiimote until you've learned your lesson.

Re:You can't fix stupid (1)

weszz (710261) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254838)

anyone happen to have a real video of someone playing and throwing the remote, not intentionally?

I'm thinking that maybe a bowling motion, you are trained to open your hand, but i can't see at really high speeds...

baseball you open your hand, and at high speeds, but like tennis, you don't throw the racket...

Re:You can't fix stupid (1)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256852)

Here ya go! [youtube.com]

Re:You can't fix stupid (1)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257312)

They're throwing the fuckers as hard as they can.

'Nuf said!

Soooo unlucky.... (4, Funny)

lurvdrum (456070) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254430)

I'm just finding it hard to credit the number of people claiming that their wiimote "flew out of their hands and into the telly...". Maybe there's just an awful lot of people who really fancy a new telly off the insurance? No one seems to be complaining that "My wiimote flew off the strap and broke that nasty ornament over the fireplace I've always hated since the day my Aunt gave it to me".

Re:Soooo unlucky.... (4, Funny)

joshetc (955226) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254804)

I have the feeling the reason is because most people tend to face their TV when using their Wii rather than the fireplace.

Re:Soooo unlucky.... (1)

lurvdrum (456070) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255622)

Were it not for the fact that the wiimote is designed to detect movement in all three spatial dimesnsions. Do these people turn sideways on to the telly every time they want to make a sideways movement of the wiimote...?? Or maybe they've only discovered the "stabbing" movement so far...

Re:Soooo unlucky.... (1)

ookaze (227977) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255672)

I have the feeling the reason is because most people tend to face their TV when using their Wii

And yet, some of them broke their light in the ceiling ...
Seems even more unlikely.

Re:Soooo unlucky.... (1)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257370)

No one seems to be complaining that "My wiimote flew off the strap and broke that nasty ornament over the fireplace I've always hated since the day my Aunt gave it to me".

Video games are traditionally played facing a television set, not facing a fireplace.

(With the obvious exceptions of "Nasty Ornament Shooting Gallery" and "Super Nasty Ornament Shooting Gallery".)

Go Nintendo (5, Insightful)

JayBlalock (635935) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254708)

While I'm still not convinced this was really THEIR fault, once again Nintendo shows how hardware flaws SHOULD be handled. I've been a gamer since the NES, and without fail, no matter how poorly the company's been performing, they were always excellent about shipping out replacement parts - usually gratis! - when needed.

Plastic controller covers, Gameboy scratch-protector screens, cracked button in the N64 controller... I've never had to pay for a replacement bit. (whereas other companies would probably make me buy a new controller rather than send me a button) Just speaking from personal experience, but this is quite possibly the #1 reason I'm still a Nintendo fanboy after all these years.

I really feel like companies these days have forgotten the old adage about "you have to spend money to make money." When I was twelve years old, dropped my Gameboy, and cracked the plastic screen cover, they COULD have been jerks and made me pay ten bucks for it. But they didn't. They even swallowed the shipping charges. And then I bought a SNES... and an N64 (sigh)... and a Gamecube...

You get the idea.

Whereas every time I've needed something from Microsoft, it's been like pulling teeth and... (looks around) GEE! No X-Boxes here!

Customer loyalty isn't a myth.

These are simply cases of "dumb" (4, Interesting)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 7 years ago | (#17254740)

I have had a Wii since launch day. It has 60+ hours of use already by myself (25 year old avid gamer), my 5 year old niece, my wife (loves her Monkey Ball), my 57 year old father-in-law, my 15 year old cousin, ect, ect, ect. Not once has the WiiMote left anyone's hands (even with some pretty freaking fast pitches!). Not once has their been a fear of damaging my generic 27" TV or my Cousin's 42" Plasma.

Everyone should also view this report:
http://www.nintendojo.com/fullfocus/view_item.php? 1166055790 [nintendojo.com]
If the default straps can take that, then people are just really dumb if they manage to break them.

"People are stupid" is not an excuse (1, Insightful)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255020)

I have to disagree with most of the posts here, which will get me modded down, but whatever.

Nintendo designed the Wii with this style of play in mind. You can't just tell people not to play 'like a fucking toolbox' (little twichy motions sitting on the couch) one second and then call them stupid for jumping around and getting into their game. Its exactly what Nintendo had in mind, and the straps were crap on launch day.

Add to this the fact that some people naturally have really sweaty hands when gripping something like a Wii remote for an extended period, and of course we see broken TVs and black eyes.

Nintendo is certainly doing the right thing by replacing the straps. But scremaing 'user error' in this case is just incorrect. The game system encourages precisely this kind of movement.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (1)

MysticOne (142751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255136)

The system does not encourage you to *throw* the Wiimote. I play pretty vigorously with the Wiimotes we have, and that doesn't cause any problems unless you're actually trying to throw the thing. I've yet to see a video where somebody was playing and didn't seem to be throwing the Wiimote as hard as they could.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (5, Insightful)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255698)

So why don't baseball bats have straps? Or Tennis racquets? Or golf clubs? Or drumsticks?

You'd almost think that people managed to hang onto these things because letting go is stupid. IMO the problem is that Nintendo put straps on to stop accidental dropping they tried to be helpful and its backfired. The should have just removed the straps so people didn't think "hey this strap must be able to with stand me throwing it really hard, I mean I do that with my digital camera all the time don't I?"

These people are muppets, probably Gonzo.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (2, Insightful)

Cocoronixx (551128) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256192)

I'd say because when engaging in these activities, you don't need to lift your thumb off of the bat/racquet/club/stick at the precise moment that it is traveling the fastest, or at any point for that matter! Neither me, or anyone else playing with my Wii have dropped the Wiimote while playing, but I would have to say in the heat of the moment, pulling your finger off of that button in the middle of a fast swing you do sometimes get the urge to pull multiple fingers off of the button, resulting in an almost dropped Wiimote. I also find more I am 'In the Zone' I am more likely to be swinging/swatting/whipping fast, while at the same time devoting less attention to overcome the urge to release more fingers.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (1)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256686)

So why don't baseball bats have straps? Or Tennis racquets? Or golf clubs? Or drumsticks?

Well, for one thing, these items do go flying on a regular basis. But they are outside, on a green or in a court, not 3 feet from your plasma screen.

Secondly, there are no buttons that you are fiddling with while swinging your tennis racket or golf club, which certainly has an effect.

Re: You don't "Fiddle with Buttons in Wii Sports" (2, Informative)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257808)

Well, for one thing, these items (baseball bats, Tennis racquets, golf clubs, drumsticks) do go flying on a regular basis. But they are outside, on a green or in a court, not 3 feet from your plasma screen.

Secondly, there are no buttons that you are fiddling with while swinging your tennis racket or golf club, which certainly has an effect.

For Wii Sports you Do not 'Fiddle' with buttons while you are in game. Hell, 3 of them you can play without touching Any buttons.

Tennis - Though you can toss the ball up to serve by pressing the A button, if you gesture up with your racquet your character will throw the ball in the air.

Boxing - Uses no buttons what-so-ever for in game action.

Baseball - Uses no buttons what-so-ever for for batting. For Pitching, you can change your pitches with the digital pad before any pitching motion is ever made. You hand should be secure on the remote at that point. You actually can play a full game of baseball without touching any buttons if you don't mind only throwing fastballs.

Golf - Requires only 1 button be HELD during gameplay so the computer knows the difference between a swing, and a practice swing. Holding the remote so your thumb covers the A button, doensn't constitute 'fiddling'.

Bowling - Hold the remote securely with your thumb and forefingers to bowl. The only one that gets used during motion is the Trigger (your index finger) and that's a simple, press and release. Your thumb and rest of your fingers should easily be able to hold onto the remote.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17256792)

What a moronic comment. You've never seen a baseball bat get tossed? And drumsticks go flying all the time.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (1)

SheeEttin (899897) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255742)

No, the controllers were not meant to be thrown.

For example, take that commercial with the two Japanese businessmen. The woman, when bowling, does not let go of the controller. She imitates the motion of bowling, but she does not let go of the controller.

While you may throw a football, you don't want to throw something like a controller.

Poorly designed minigames (1)

zstlaw (910185) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256084)

I was at a friends house playing Rayman recently and I have to say some of the mini-games require absurdly fast motion of the remote. I attempted to use subtlety and control. Then I tried speed with small motions. Finally when both those approaches failed to get top rankings, I used huge motions at top speed and took the top places in several minigames.

Now I have only played for a couple hours. And some games did require coordination or accuracy, but others definitely involved waving your limbs like a madman. I believe this is an issue with game design, not necessarily the Wii. And with the Wii having so many minigames it makes sense that some will have the mechanic wave the controller as fast as possible. A story based game wouldn't have this problem, nor sports, nor first person shooters. But how many collections of minigames are out for the Wii already? I know I have seen several. Also remember that minigames have different mechanics than most gamers are used to. (bop the mole, play the drums, shake the bottle, etc)

I haven't dropped a controller myself, but the design of some games makes it perfectly understandable that it happens. If worn the wrist strap should be sufficient, but when you are passing the controller at a party, someone is going to not tighten the strap all the way or have sweaty hands. And honestly most people aren't going to "buckle up" just for a short video-game session. Just having the wrist strap on isn't enough, it needs to be tightened and that is uncomfortable. So breakage will happen.

Re:"People are stupid" is not an excuse (1)

ZombieRoboNinja (905329) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257624)

Believe it or not, Penny Arcade (of "fucking toolbox" fame) is not a subsidiary of Nintendo.

"People are stupid" IS an excuse (1)

MrPerfekt (414248) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257706)

You're trying to tell me Nintendo designed the Wii with THIS [youtube.com] in mind?! Are you wacky?

In my experience, the controller doesn't even track movements that fast very well so all you're doing is overexerting yourself and making yourself look even more ridiculous. I'm stumped as to why swinging the controller AS HARD AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN could be construed as 'normal' gameplay. It says everywhere in the manual and in gameplay, swing gently. A gentle motion is far more accurate than this WiiMote hurdling exercise shown in the video and doesn't result in the wrist-strap dying a horrible death trying to restrain an 80-mph 8oz plastic shard from flying towards your TV.

After about 25 hours of play, the remote has -never- come close to leaving my hand, I've played all the games reasonably well and, yes, after a while my hand does sweat. The video is a prime example of what is going on. I think Chuck Norris would even have a good deal bit more restraint.

Things you swing that don't have a strap... (2, Insightful)

SilentJ_PDX (559136) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255110)

1. Baseball bat

2. Tennis raquet

3. Squash racquet

Louisville Slugger, Head and Prince are begging for lawsuits... :)

Re:Things you swing that don't have a strap... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17255538)

Exactly ... how are these people playing the actual sports when they're not playing Wii Sports? I mean, I would literally be afraid to play tennis with any of these bozos -- afraid that they would launch their racket at my head because their hand got "sweaty."

Jeesh ...

Re:Things you swing that don't have a strap... (3, Funny)

WillyMF1 (867862) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255546)

This is different. There are the nice TVs of a bunch of bloggers involved.

Also (2, Insightful)

killmenow (184444) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256334)

It's different because people who tend to actually use baseball bats, tennis racquets, etc. are athletic people with a modicum of coordination...as opposed to video gamers who tend to be uncoordinated nerds (like myself) who suck at swinging baseball bats, tennis racquets, etc. in the real world too.

Even still, this uncoordinated person, his teenage uncoordinated son, nine year old uncoordinated daughter, and six year old uncoordinated son all have been playing Wii Sports since November 19th and none of us have managed to let go of a wiimote.

I still think alcohol is involved in more of these "woops, my wiimote just crashed into my TV!" moments than the people reporting such events are letting on.

Re:Things you swing that don't have a strap... (1)

justinbach (1002761) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257140)

1. Baseball bat 2. Tennis raquet 3. Squash racquet

Alright, who can tell me which of those things DON'T have a nice rubber or tape grip on them?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Re:Things you swing that don't have a strap... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17257592)

yes, all those sports have HDTV's sitting right in front of the player. yes, i remember seeing all those games as a child and thinking how hard it must be for the batter to see the pitcher over the top of the tv.....WTF sports are you watching?

mario party (1)

erbbysam (964606) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255530)

This isn't the first time that they have done this, anybody remember those blistering mario party minigames that they actually gave out controller gloves for?

In other news... (4, Funny)

EarwigTC (579471) | more than 7 years ago | (#17255848)

I keep punching my crotch way harder than it's supposed to be punched, and it huurts. I would like Levis to send me some better jeans.

Becareful with casual derogatory labels. (2, Informative)

Semptimilius (917640) | more than 7 years ago | (#17256744)

I used to feel people who lost their grip on their remotes were stupid. Or naturally clumsy. Or speading FUD or looking for lawsuit material. Until it happened to me whilst playing tennis. My hand was extremely sweaty during one very long rally. All it took was one backhand too many in this sweaty situation and -VOOP- goes the wiimote. The strap did break, and I don't think that offending swing was particularly vigorous. Nothing was broken, and, fortunately, I can tie knots. I think it's just poor design. What's the average tensile strength of that string? Inserting and removing it from the plastic clip on the nunchuk could easily fray the string. They could have used an aramid fibre like Kevlar. Or a rubber (or ridged) surface for the wiimote itself, for grip.

Re:Becareful with casual derogatory labels. (1)

s31523 (926314) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257302)

It is only a matter of time before someone brings a lawsuit against Nintendo. If the strap really does break that easily, take the original Wiimote and show a jury how easy it breaks and bam, lawsuit won. If it's true, Nintendo should pay up to replace things that get broken. I'd be pissed if I was swinging my Wiimote with "normal" force and the strap broke causing the wiimote to smash my nice new $2000 flat-screen TV.

What the Hell is going on here... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17257338)

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute people. Nintendo doesn't properly test and ships a shaky/cheap strap prone to breakage and all we have is praise for them?! How does Nintendo get a pass on this as "how to handle the situation". Had this been Sony the post would have been 1,563 comments long with 95% of them saying, "Sony sucks and should burn in hell", "rootkit"! Heck to be honest outside of shipment numbers...Sony's had the best launch so far. No widespread red circles of death, bad updates, controllers killing TV's...as hard as it is to admit, for the most part the PS3's in the market have worked flawlessly.

Let's call a spade a spade here people...this is a mistake on Nintendo's part. To assert that people "should be more careful" is just stupid. Nintendo knew their console encouraged movement and this could potentially happen (why they included a strap in the first place) but they cheaped out on them and these are the consequences. I'm as big a Ninty fan as anyone and proud Wii owner but Let's stop drinking Ninty's kool-aid, get off our knees, and see the forest for the trees. This launch has had its share of mishaps: limited to no online play, bad update (I'm on my second Wii), straps, lower than expected shipment numbers to the UK...) yet gamers, and slashdot especially, keep giving Nintendo a pass. I don't get it.

   

...after much giggling and photo-taking??? (1)

shoolz (752000) | more than 7 years ago | (#17257400)

Can somebody clue me in? I'm not exactly sure what this is in reference to. Am I the only one who doesn't get the joke?
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