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Give an Internet Freedom Disk

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the real-holiday-cheer dept.

Education 342

An anonymous reader, perhaps the blogger himself, writes to tell us about a new blog aimed at getting non-techies excited over the idea of running from a Live CD. The blogger doesn't call it that, preferring instead "Internet Freedom Disk"; Linux is never mentioned. The submitter adds: "This is just a great gift to drop on your non-geek friends and potentially wake up a sleeping giant." Cheap, last-minute, and you can make them yourself. The blogger isn't selling anything; he provides links to Ubuntu and Knoppix Live CDs. Or pick your favorite.

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We must all use the internet freedom disk (5, Funny)

LordEd (840443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17280976)

If we don't support freedom, the terrorists have already won!

Re:We must all use the internet freedom disk (-1, Troll)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281280)

You joke but this is exactly what they're going for. Don't mention Linux (it's for geeks, after all), and stick the word 'Freedom' in there to give it some good old AMERICAN BACKBONE and you've got a winner!

Just don't acknowledge the fact that:

a) No other platform limits your INTERNET FREEDOM! either, or

b) It'll take you hours to learn how to use the thing because you're not familiar with Linux.

If someone gave me an Internet Freedom Disk, I would turn it into an Internet Freedom Shuriken(tm) and go to town...

Re:We must all use the internet freedom disk (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281532)

Nah. It just sounds like you are about five years behind the "cool curve". Remember "Extreme" being put on the front of every product? If you do that now, you get laughed at. "Freedom" is so 2002.

Re:We must all use the internet freedom disk (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281594)

don't insult me, faggot

Re:We must all use the internet freedom disk (4, Insightful)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281562)

If the jump from using firefox in windows to using firefox in linux is so troublesome, I think you've got problems that won't be fixed by any CD...

Re:We must all use the internet freedom disk (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281620)

Where do I get a live CD that supports winmodems like the one which comes on my laptop? I only have this laptop and I'd like to see why Slashdot has been promulgating this OS for nearly a decade. From what I've been hearing it's much easier for non-IT admins nowadays but still has the same, unfriendly and impersonal support of RTFM.

Give Bibles (2, Insightful)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281608)

.. and get them excited about religion.

You'd probably get pissed if someone tried to force their ideology down your throat so why should you force yours on others?

yea...right... (1, Funny)

JazzyMusicMan (1012801) | more than 7 years ago | (#17280990)

I think you're better off giving them macaroni and cheese drawings. Ever see that mac commercial "i spent all day trying to get my new digital camera to work..."

Re:yea...right... (2, Insightful)

karnal (22275) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281286)

I don't think I was ever allowed to put the "cheese" on the wonderful macaroni art I used to make as a kid.

I probably would have just eaten the cheese powder anyways.

You lost me at (5, Insightful)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#17280994)

getting non-techies excited over the idea of running from a Live CD

Normal people dont get excited about operating systems. PC's are either tools or toys to them. Getting another operating systems is about as exciting as changing the wash cycle in their dishwasher for most people.

Re:You lost me at (5, Funny)

Who235 (959706) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281148)

I like to use the "pots and pans" cycle even when there are no pots or pans in the load. I think it's more secure aginst streaks, spots, and other malcleaning. It also protects against the trojan spaghetti sauce that tends to stick after a "normal" cycle.

I know the detergent makers usually only support "normal" wash, but I've found that to be typical Cascade FUD - most of the time I can use exactly the same detergent, or in a pinch I can make my own.

I've tried and tried to get my aunts and uncles to switch over to "pots and pans" so they'll stop calling me when food remains stuck to their dishes, but they always forget and just set the dial to "normal" as soon as I leave. I never should have let on that I know anything about dishwashers.

Oh well.

 

Re:You lost me at (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281254)

Mod parent up! What a metaphor!

Re:You lost me at (2, Interesting)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281310)

Doesn't the pots and pans cycle use up more energy/water? Doesn't it end up costing you more money each year?

Re:You lost me at (2, Insightful)

jrockway (229604) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281644)

Well, it would probably be cheaper to just eat off of dirty dishes, right, so why bother with the dishwasher at all?

(Same thing with heating / cooling your house. It's just going to get hot after your turn off your air conditioning, so why bother using it all?)

Re:You lost me at (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281704)

Efficiency is the key. Not using/paying for more than what is needed. I guess it depends on whether someone minds eating off of 90% clean dishes. As for heating and cooling houses, the same thing holds true concerning efficiency.

Re:You lost me at (2, Insightful)

BlowChunx (168122) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281422)

Tell this to my neighbor who put out a Pentium 2.4 machine on the curb because it gave her a BSOD.

Show her a live CD, and it's all kittens after that.

Re:You lost me at (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281580)

"PC's are either tools or toys to them."
Exactly. That's why I demonstrate live CDs and THEN give them away.
A machine at work refused to finish booting, and we are down to an airman who only knows to format and reload. (Users aren't Administrators on their boxes much anymore, which would be good if we hadn't got rid of most of our skilled workgroup managers...)
I unplugged the machine from the network, booted Knoppix, burned the needed files to external DVD, and played some of the music I found while I was at it. User was happy his records were saved.

scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17280996)

Retake your Internet! Once again browse any page! Click any item! Surf with impunity!
scary...

Just got my Freedom Disk! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281000)

And I'm fucking excited!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!

I mean I'm surfin and not getting spyware I'm not even broadcasting an IP anymore! I used to hate all you Linux people, I thought you were all big fags, but now I'm totally hip!!!1!

hmm great! (4, Insightful)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281004)

Retake your Internet! Once again browse any page! Click any item! Surf with impunity!

1 - I've failed to "take my internet" so far, how will I retake it?
2 - I can already browse any page
3 - I can already click any item
4 - Does this mean I can download kiddie porn without fearing the police?

Seriously though, as soon as I read that first line, I stopped perusing this blog. It sounds very silly and useless...

Re:hmm great! (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281080)

Does this mean I can download kiddie porn without fearing the police?
So long as you're using an open wireless access point, sure.

It is a live CD.

Re:hmm great! (1)

KnowledgeKeeper (1026242) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281168)

Not too bad. A bit of clever marketing goes a long way. People could carry around their own OS on a read-only bootable disc/usb keychain and be sure they aren't being snooped upon by a piece of malware someone installed on, let's say, a internet caffe or a company computer.

I mean, many people already use web-based services and most of the data fits on an usb keychain. Not to mention that it's possible to mount a home directory using fuse+sshfs :)

Of course, optical readers produce a lot of hum when operating and require a spin-up after some idle time so perhaps a usb keychain could be a better alternative.

Re:hmm great! (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281446)

More computers allow booting from optical disks than from USB. A good solution is to boot from a DVD and have an entry in fstab that union mounts a USB device over the top of your DVD. That gives you a decent sized set of applications (4.7GB is enough for a very useful install) as well as some extra storage space.

If you want to do it even better, then put a Xen guest on the USB keychain and have a boot DVD that contains Xen and a dom0 host for machines which don't have Xen installed. That way you don't even need to shut down and lose state when you remove the USB drive, just suspend the machine.

Brill (5, Insightful)

Rexz (724700) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281032)

A blogger linked to Ubuntu? Great story guys. Very worthy of the front page.

Re:Brill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281118)

Seriously, what is this digg?

Re:Brill (1)

surgeon (61206) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281178)

_Terrible_

Bad Outcome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281034)

This will just allow pedophiles to conduct their activities with even less traceability.

Just imagine giving this gift to someone instead of a gift that requires actual thought. The recipient probably have you locked up for being a terrorist sympathiser. I'd cry if I got this CD under the christmas tree, and not the "happy" kind of cry either.

Re:Bad Outcome. (1)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281072)

This will just allow pedophiles to conduct their activities with even less traceability.

Yes, we have to think of the children.

Please, do not mention Tor [eff.org] anywhere you think pedophiles might be reading.

Re:Bad Outcome. (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281322)

Don't worry, it's not like anyone can get Tor to work anyway.

Re:Bad Outcome. (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281482)

I'm all for sarcastic humor and everything, but what the heck? Tor now even provides a pretty Windows installer complete with tray icon and no unsightly DOS window. It's just a matter of setting your favorite SOCKS-compatible P2P app (eg, eMule) to use the proxy. It's damn slow, but it works just fine.

Re:Bad Outcome. (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281494)

SOCKS-compatible
There ya go.

Re:Bad Outcome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281302)

Hey, without tongues, eyeballs or fingers, it'd be hard for pedophiles to look at child porn, find it on the internet, or talk to other pedophiles in real life. So how about we just remove everyone's tongues, eyeballs and fingers, as they make allow pedophiles to 'conduct their activities'.

Re:Bad Outcome. (3, Funny)

mek2600 (677900) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281410)

You could save a lot of time by removing that other appendage instead.

Bleh, the end of the blog is a party pooper (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281056)

There are a few different IFD's out there. The geeks call them Live-CD's. They don't look to alive to me, but the geeks have a habit of choosing bad names for things, sad but true. You will have to know what an .iso file is and how to burn it. If that just scared you then just buy a large pizza with extra cheese and a six-pack of beer. Then invite your geek friend over to do it for you. This way is much easier and more fun.

So basically, once non-tech folks are excited about live-CDs and have downloaded the iso, they're freed and... need to con a geek into coming to their home to do the job because n00bs can't figure it out. Great, I'm sure countless people needed that advice.

Re:Bleh, the end of the blog is a party pooper (4, Funny)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281082)

But it means free food for almost no work.. Sounds good to me.

Re:Bleh, the end of the blog is a party pooper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281130)

Oooh, you PROMISED [slashdot.org] you'd "stopped perusing this blog". How come you're still quoting it? I can't believe a word you say any more :(

Re:Bleh, the end of the blog is a party pooper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281180)

You're right, I couldn't help myself, I was drawn to it by the 13 year-old writing style, and wondering all the way how the heck this made it on Slashdot.

Re:Bleh, the end of the blog is a party pooper (2, Insightful)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281134)

You won't believe how many geeks(!) I had to help to burn an ISO file on their Windoze PC. Most Windoze CD burning programs make that simple process very difficult/impossible.

Really? (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281364)

You have something to back that up or are you basing this off of one invalid case? Nero and Roxio, the two most popular burners, both support ISO naively and easily. You just tell it to make a CD from an image, show it the image, it does the rest. In the event the computer doesn't have one of those two you can grab DVD Decrypter which isn't really made for burning, but ISO burning is one of it's features (and it works well).

So I'm going to call BS here, especially given your use of "Windoze". My guess is that you know very little about Windows and in one case found a system that you couldn't figure out how to make burn, more likely your problem than Windows' problem. You've now decided that burning in Windows is hard, which is totally false.

FYI: Things like this don't help convert people to Linux. They convince people that Linux users are uninformed zealots and shouldn't be listened to. When you tell someone "This is hard to do in Windows," and it's not they figure (correctly) that you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Also using things like "Windoze" just makes you sound like you are 13. Nobody is sold by name calling. Act professional and stick to real issues, maybe someone will listen to you.

Example story (1)

Bananenrepublik (49759) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281604)

I have tried and failed to burn an .iso image with the reduced version of Roxio that is distributed with Dell PCs in Germany. Only looking it up in google made me achieve this goal. Before that, my sister's boyfriend had tried to burn an .iso on the same computer and finally ended up setting up a network, pulling the .iso over to his PC, and burning it there. We are both computer-savvy. It just so happened that the program's documentation was unusable, and the .iso burning function was buried in the most unlogical place.

Yes, there are programs where burning .isos is easy, but unlike all Linux distributions, they don't come for free with your Windows PC.

Example story-with subtitles. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281678)

"Yes, there are programs where burning .isos is easy, but unlike all Linux distributions, they don't come for free with your Windows PC."

"I have tried and failed to burn an .iso image with the reduced version of Roxio that is distributed with Dell PCs in Germany.[emphasis for those who can't be bothered to read what they type]"

BTW Nero came for free with my burner.

Bleh, the end of the post is a party pooper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281382)

"Most Windoze CD burning programs make that simple process very difficult/impossible."

"Double-click Nero Smartstart on desktop"-->"Select type[CD]"-->"Catagory[Make Data CD}"-->"Click "add" button"-->select files and click "add" button then "finish" when done"-->"next" button-->Burn!

Congradulations! You've proved another slashdot poster wrong. But then this is the forum that can't seem to figure out how to skip the commercials on a DVD without doing the hokey-pokey.

Re:Bleh, the end of the post is a party pooper (1)

imthesponge (621107) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281616)

That's for creating an image and burning it, not for burning a pre-made image.

Those long, long, long, boot times. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281060)


To be honest, it's a little hard to get excited about running a Live CD when it takes 10 solid minutes to boot it.

What is the fastest-booting Live CD that provides a reasonably functional desktop?

Security? (5, Insightful)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281064)

It looks like the purpose of this CD is to protect users from Trojans, spyware, and other malware. The author of this page encourages users to click on anything they want on the web and not worry about the source of the executables that they are running. Encouraging users to continue to be ignorant and reckless sounds like a horrible idea. Sure, right now there doesn't happen to be much malware for Linux, but if more dumb people start running Linux, it will be produced. Even though Linux is more resistant than Windoze to being broken into by traditional exploits, if the user deliberately runs some malicious program, the system cannot protect itself. No system that allows the user to administer their own machine can protect from these kinds of attacks. We need to educate users AND give them Linux. Doing either one without the other will leave the our public Internet in worse shape and our fellow users just as bewildered and dangerous.

Re:Security? (1)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281092)

"We need to educate users AND give them Linux"

No, we just need to educate them. A Window's user who's smart enough not to click things they shouldn't be clicking, run a firewall and use an Anti-Virus is very hard to attack. Adding Linux to the mix makes them a tiny bit harder but it's not like an educated person who's NOT using Linux is going to get viruses. No offense but that statement just sounds like fanboyism, the OS is a very small factor in computer Safety, the user is a very large factor.

Re:Security? (1)

Chandon Seldon (43083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281458)

Why should users jump through ridiculous hoops to get a system that still isn't secure when they can run secure and functional free software instead?

Re:Security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281464)

Exactly!

Car analogy coming up:

"My car needs a new steering-wheel cover."
"You should buy this BRAND NEW CAR!"
[Sometime later...]
"Um, now I have a different car that I don't know how to drive and I still don't have a steering-wheel cover."
"Well go buy one then, duh!"

Re:Security? (2, Interesting)

yvanthegreat (1032262) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281508)

As an IT manager on a secondary school, and having spoken to lots of those in other schools, I must warn you about the fact that you might not find enough 'educated' teachers to educate all those users. And even those who should educate the teachers are not always educated enough...

For example, I got this job when the previous 'IT-man' got a job at the government to think about strategies to work with computers in a school and explain them to teachers. The next year, my school got a network.

Re:Security? (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281184)

I have been running Linux since 1996. I open any email attachments and click any links with wild abandon. Ten years and no problems due to that...

Re:Security? (1)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281206)

Uh, that's the whole point of it being a LIVE CD... your computer gets fucked up, you're a reboot away from a complete restoration. Of course, you still risk having your saved files and whatnot deleted, but that's not the point of the "freedom disk" idea.

Re:Security? (3, Insightful)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281504)

Or you're one local root exploit away from having your hard drive wiped.

Re:Security? (1)

KnowledgeKeeper (1026242) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281230)

We need to educate users AND give them Linux.

And what better way to do this than using a live cd with newb-friendly documentation and possibly a series of short movies that show how something is done?

Re:Security? (1)

Torvaun (1040898) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281628)

I'm a computer tech. I need to know the systems my clients are using. Far and away, that's Windows XP, with a smattering of Windows 2000, and one Mac. At home, I run Windows XP. Geek that I am, I know all about firewalls and AV software, phishing and other scams. I don't have computer troubles. How can that be, you ask? Simple. Users, not OS's, are secure or insecure. The same moron who installs everything under the sun on his computer under Windows is going to be sending checks to Nigerian royalty under Linux. I'm in the rare position where switching to Linux would be detrimental. If I fail to keep up on how to do things on Windows systems, I will lose money. Even if there were as many Linux users out there as Windows ones, they would still not increase my customer base by as much as the Windows users do. Besides that, I do enjoy my PC gaming.

Re:Security? (1)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281676)

You don't understand how effective that would be at improving the security features of Linux.

Stupid people do stupid things [u]more often than[/u] non-stupid people. This would increase the number of guinea pigs running linux by a significant number. Especially if you tell them that they can call themselves the "Person of the Year" if they use it, and still be completely honest.

With more stupid people running linux, more bugs would be found.
When more bugs are found, more bugs are fixed.

When more bugs are fixed, and people realize that Linux fixes its bugs in minutes, hours, or days, and not in months or years, they'll easily see that picking up a copy of Linux and giving feedback is a very very cool thing.

Why? (3, Insightful)

hikerhat (678157) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281076)

Why would my non-technical friend want to transform his computer from a fully function system, with all his documents, programs, music, etc into a semi functional linux system running off a cdrom? Removing the word 'linux' from the name of the cd doesn't make it more appealing. And what does 'internet freedom' mean to my non-technical friend? Will he be able to get to more web sites? No. Maybe less given that linux web browsers can only render a subset of the pages windows browsers can. Can he save new files or music to his live cd? No. All your work goes away when you shut the computer down.

Exactly what freedoms are available to you when you run a linux live system off a cdrom that are unavailable to you on your fully functional windows system?

Re:Why? (1)

Garrett Fox (970174) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281308)

And after having his Freedom Disc installed, he'll still not know what to do with those programs, because Linux doesn't yet seem to have a large, friendly "TUTORIAL" button on its default desktop. Asking him to go to IRC with any problems, or read a textbook to learn about this Linux thing, creates a substantial hurdle before this new user can do anything with the new system. If he's told, "What's so hard? There's your Internet browser; there's your word processor," then he's as badly off as if he'd stuck with Windows -- no knowledge of the underlying file system, permissions, etc..

Re:Why? (1)

Chandon Seldon (43083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281434)

Are you a time traveller from 1998 who hasn't bothered checking to make sure the world hasn't changed in 8 years or something?

Most computer users use their computer by looking at the screen and clicking on stuff that looks like it will do what they want. The fact that Ubuntu has an "Applications" menu rather than a "Start" menu shouldn't slow that down. The big old Firefox icon, and the "OpenOffice.org Word Processor" item under the "Office" menu shouldn't be that hard either.

The fact of the matter is, as long as a user isn't computer illiterate to the point that they can't operate a mouse, any modern user-oriented desktop operating system will work fine for them - Windows XP, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop.

Even the old "Applications" issue is basically irrelevant. The only reason you'd need Windows on a computer is to play computer games - Windows is appropriate in the same places that a Playstation 3 is, not for getting work done.

Re:Why? (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281400)

I can name four.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281484)

And what does 'internet freedom' mean to my non-technical friend?

Alright, alright!... How about "007 Super Secret Agent CD!" Drop it in the trash and walk away. Disappear without a trace. (Just be sure to wear gloves or your fingerprints will give you away.)

Honestly though, if I received a CD-R with free software burned to it as my sole X-Mas present... I'd be pretty pissed. You cheap bastard! You couldn't even give me a blank one that I could use. It's probably just one of your old ones with one of your fucktard "Internet Freedom" stickers on it. Jesus, you might as well have given me an AOL install disk. That would have been about as fucking useful and I might have been able to eBay it for $10000 or something in ten years or so. You cheap bastard! Don't ever come to my house for X-Mas again!

Getting non-techies excited (4, Funny)

Simon Garlick (104721) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281094)

Repeat after me.

Non-techies don't care about this shit.
Non-techies don't care about this shit.
Non-techies don't care about this shit.

Nothing personal (2, Funny)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281292)

Non-techies don't care about this shit. (x3)

Agreed. But the next time I see the phrase "repeat after me" on Slashdot, I'm going to go down to Fry's and sling giant vats of flaming bat guano all over the aisles until the police drag me away, kicking and screaming, babbling on about trite, overused expressions on Slashdot.

Re:Nothing personal (4, Funny)

p3w-451 (989647) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281408)

Repeat after me.

Re:Nothing personal (1)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281416)

Repeat after me.

after me.

Re:Nothing personal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281548)

after me after me after me...

Hi, it's me (4, Funny)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281448)

Can you bail me out of jail?

Re:Getting non-techies excited (2, Funny)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281518)

Neither do techies, so it seems.

Good intentions, not for everybody (surprise!) (1)

Virtual_Raider (52165) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281136)

I think this is a much better attempt than the horrible BadVista site from yesterday. While the tone of this one may not appeal to everybody, there is absolutely no single approach to anything what will work for everyone under the sun =)

Perhaps sites like this would be most effective after somebody has been experiencing problems with their PC. Try to talk somebody with a perfectly working computer about it and the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality takes over.

So free, in fact... (1)

KmN (725025) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281138)

that it doesn't come with Flash or Java. So much for browsing any page.

No Java? look again (soon). No Flash? Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281432)

I hope Flash will be replaced by open video formats and SVG

And the best is... (4, Informative)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281140)

I have tested a number of "Internet Freedom Disks" (Live CDs), if I may call them that and have found that the best "Internet Freedom Disk" is Freespire version 1.0.13.This disk comes with everything needed to be productive on the internet nowadays.

It is the only disk that enables me watch CNN video, Yahoo! video, and videos on http://www.youtube.com/ [youtube.com] and http://www.video.google.com/ [google.com] and http://http//www.grouper.com [http] with no tweaking whatsoever.

This disk also enabled me play Yahoo! games which means Java was [properly] installed. Sound and video worked great and the fonts for the first time, looked better, though more work was still needed on this front.

One thing I did not like was the CnR warehouse for it complained about my email address being invalid and complained again that the same email address had already been used!

The other complaint I have with Freespire is the fact that I could not customize my KDE to my liking. But overall, this Freespire distro is the best I have seen for the desktop in the Linux world.

Re:And the best is... (1)

rollingcalf (605357) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281466)

So would you mind posting a link to where someone can download the ISO for a Live CD of Freespire? The Freespire.org site doesn't have anything about Live CDs, only installable CDs (unless it's there somewhere and I couldn't find it).

This has success written all over it (2, Funny)

MrNonchalant (767683) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281162)

"Woohoo! Yay! Uncle Bobby got me an Internet Freedom Disk!"

I can just the happy children smiling now.

Not this again... (4, Funny)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281174)

Please, cut it with the fads. Just call it by its normal name -- an Internet French Disk.

Re:Not this again... (0, Offtopic)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281334)

Damn I just lost my mod points (like minutes ago)

That was very worty of a Funny mod.

Sorry mate. I owe ya one.

"Linux Is Never Mentioned" (3, Insightful)

emjoi_gently (812227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281176)

Sorry, but this reminds of of Scientologists offering "A Free Personality Test".
Omitting to mention, oh by the way, we're a Weird Religious Cult.

Re:"Linux Is Never Mentioned" (1)

scoot80 (1017822) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281586)

Lol. I saw one of those fliers a few days ago..

Scam! (1)

DukeFH (45062) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281218)

This is like when christians drop fake $100 bills with the gospel on the back.

Re:Scam! (1)

p0ss (998301) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281388)

FTA
You will have to know what an .iso file is and how to burn it. If that just scared you then just buy a large pizza with extra cheese and a six-pack of beer. Then invite your geek friend over to do it for you. This way is much easier and more fun.

TRANSLATION
"hey guys, i can get you free porn if you'll be my friends!"

Daddy, how do I use the freedom disk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281264)

With a FRIGGIN LASER BEAM, son, with a FRIGGIN LASER BEAM!

AOL (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281278)

"This is just a great gift to drop on your non-geek friends and potentially wake up a sleeping giant."

Yeah, that's what AOL thought.
I can see the looks on my friends and families faces now when I try to give them this disk.

"Freedom"??? (3, Funny)

thib_gc (730259) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281312)

It's called an Internet *French* Disk, you insensitive clod... oh wait... never mind, it is an Internet Freedom Disk.

Bad habits die hard (1)

symbolic (11752) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281340)


Despite the health crisis facing the US where the number of obese people is steadily rising, nothing changes. Why? Bad habits. An over-reliance on Windows is no less a bad habit than ordering a super-sized meal for the fifth time in one week.

But it doesn't matter- the super-sized meal, even though, over the long term, is degrading my health, it works for me NOW...this second. The failure here is the inability or lack of motivation when it comes to looking past the immediately obvious. Moving beyond this will require a cultural shift, and those don't come easy.

That having been said, I think linux will continue to gain ground, albeit slowly. The "freedom disk" may find takers in a small number of cases, but I don't think it will have the degree of impact that some are hoping for.

Woah there! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281344)

Are you suggesting that us Linux geeks have friends that don't use Linux?

What are you, some kind of slabbed out murm? Are you NUTS!??

In reply to the story... (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281346)

Geeks need not beer. Give them a high energy drink instead.

Re:In reply to the story... (1)

Airconditioning (639167) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281386)

Heresy!

Re:In reply to the story... (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281684)

Geeks need not beer. Give them a high energy drink instead.

      What, are you 12 or something? :P

Non-techies must be really stupid people (1)

Svippy (876087) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281368)

If you require to talk to them like that, or perhaps I don't know any non-techies then? Seriously though, why the hell have he written the article like an advertisement?

You can almost see Steve Ballmer shouting that... except, of course, you can't, because he wouldn't.

VMware (1)

r3st2 (987153) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281378)

Because live CD's suck.

jargonizing is fun (4, Funny)

SaidinUnleashed (797936) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281404)

Live CD is to "Internet Freedom Disk" as shovel is to "hand-held low-pollution manual excavation utility"

Re:jargonizing is fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281480)

they're called euphemisms, not jargon.

Won't work. Here's why. (4, Interesting)

Aphrika (756248) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281418)

Friends I have that don't use Linux can't seem to comprehend the idea of a free OS. If I dropped copy of Ubuntu on their lap at Christmas, they'd immediately be suspicious of it. On booting, they'd complain that it wasn't Windows and that'd be that.

Reminds me of giving out mince pies in front of church on Saturday - most people couldn't understand why we would possibly give away mince pies. It was just a nice idea for shoppers walking past. Same with OSes - people expect to be charged, if they're not, they instantly assume that it's of low quality and crap, or there's some kind of benefit in it for you. Linux has more chance of being taken up if it was a $500 OS. Then it'd be a status symbol and everyone under the Sun would want it, or aspire to own it.

Re:Won't work. Here's why. (1)

Joey7F (307495) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281538)

They are right to think that. Churches that are giving pies away are trying to get their attendance up. Restaurants that give away free samples are hoping you come spend some money there. Linux advocates are usually hoping people will use it and thus increase the OS' influence.

--Joey

Won't work. Here's why-Not sneaky enough. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281624)

"Linux advocates are usually hoping people will use it and thus increase the OS' influence.
"

Uh, huh. And of course no advocates would benefit from THAT!

Offer it to your friends when their windows broke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281544)

"I have no time to help you with a Windows re-install. In the mean time you can do your webbrowsing and .doc editing with THIS. Just put it into your computer and press the reset button. It just works, no install needed. It won't delete your files on the harddrive either. There's something to do MSN in there as well, so you can always ask me questions. I'll get back to you when i have more time"

I have an idea for one general free software installer system that works on anything, plus gives space to your preferences (distro, etc.) See http://steltenpower.com/freedomdrive.org [steltenpower.com] (soon just freedomdrive.org)

Umm...Freedom? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17281652)

Wouldn't "Internet Freedom Disk" be termed to mean all the pirated Windows XP that a majority of the /. readers are using while professing that Linux is the second coming of Jesus?

"Isn't selling anything"? (1)

My name is Bucket (1020933) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281662)

Maybe not in the most immediate sense...

How long to boot up? (1)

Salvance (1014001) | more than 7 years ago | (#17281682)

Anyone know how long this thing takes to boot up? I'd imagine it would take a lot longer than what most people are accustomed to, but that's just my guess...
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