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BBC Uses Skype Links In Murder Hunt

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the free-and-anonymous dept.

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Nico M writes "The highly publicized UK murder hunt for the serial killer(s) of five young sex workers in Suffolk is using Skype to ask the public for information. BBC News is embedding freephone Skype links to both the police incident room and Crimestoppers UK. Is this the first time Skype has been used in this way?"

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Finally (0, Flamebait)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282732)

A legitimate chance to tag something on slashdot as "deadhookers"

Yeah .. hilarious (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283078)

Imagine if every anti-U.S. story on /. were tagged with deadiraqis. The /. left would be up in arms. Dead hookers is ok though. Because you know, they weren't human.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283212)

Sorry. Prostitution and porn has taught me that women are simply objects for my sexual gratification. So you're right. They aren't human. At least that's what they've taught me.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283408)

Waaa waaa.... Come on, I laughed my ass off at that. Hey, here's a joke for you:

Q : What's the difference between an onion and a hooker?

A : I don't cry when I chop up the hooker.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (1, Offtopic)

morboIV (1040044) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283450)

What's the difference between a Ferrari and a dead hooker?

I don't have a Ferrari in my garage.

That'll show the sanctimonious bastard.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (2, Insightful)

odourpreventer (898853) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284224)

I don't cry when I chop up the hooker.

Now replace "hooker" with "nigger". Still laughing?

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (3, Funny)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284358)

Then replace "nigger" with "baby".

Baby jokes never get old...

Aisle seat please.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (1)

spootle (1033314) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284370)

Yes.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283784)

Imagine if everyone only used appropriate analogies...

Never mind, that's too hard.

Re:Yeah .. hilarious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17284200)

They were almost certainly killed because they were hookers - not people or women.

Hello! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17282734)

Goodbye!

Sex workers? (4, Insightful)

Dan East (318230) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282736)

Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

Dan East

Why yes... (2, Informative)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282776)

Why yes it is. Becoming more and more prevalent as a recognition that there are apparently a lot of people that willingly choose that trade. Look in the back of your local "alternative" weekly, and you'll find many many ads for "sex workers" willing to assist in your every kink. And, of course, not all prostitutes are "sex workers". For example the average CEO...

Why yes...will grab for code. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17282830)

"And, of course, not all prostitutes are "sex workers". For example the average CEO..."

Or the average slashdotter...once they hit daylight that is.

Re:Why yes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283608)

Look in the back of your local "alternative" weekly, and you'll find many many ads for "sex workers" willing to assist in your every kink.

Thanks! I was having trouble finding them.

Re:Sex workers? (5, Informative)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282862)

Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

I am amazed that so few slashdotters (reading the first 10 posts or so) are unfamiliar with that term. (Do you all live under rocks or something?)

Its basically a superset of prostitute - including people in the industry who don't actually fuck for money, ie strip dancers, porn stars, topless waiters, dominatrixes (sp?) etc.

Nothing PC about it.

Re:Sex workers? (5, Funny)

lastninja (237588) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282920)

including people in the industry who don't actually fuck for money, ie strip dancers, porn stars, topless waiters, dominatrixes (sp?) etc.
What kind of boring non-fucking porn do you watch?

Re:Sex workers? (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283026)

What kind of boring non-fucking porn do you watch?

Point taken, but there's plenty of solo/etc porn out there - and it was merely an example of non-fucking-for-money.

[ot your sig]
John Carmack fan, browsing at +5 since 1999.

How did you read my comment (rated +3 at time of writing)

Re:Sex workers? (1)

hdparm (575302) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283142)

[ot]
because it appears since you're subscriber

Re:Sex workers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283176)

How did you read my comment (rated +3 at time of writing)

I have some mod categories set to be worth more than +1.

Re:Sex workers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17284076)

That kind of hits a point. Why is porn legal, and prostitution illegal? Both are sex for money. Being in front of a camera changes the law?

Re:Sex workers? (2, Informative)

Marbleless (640965) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282952)

> I am amazed that so few slashdotters (reading the first 10 posts or so) are unfamiliar with that term. (Do you all live under rocks or something?)

They may not live under rocks, but it would be interesting to know where they do live.

Here in Australia, 'sex worker' is a fairly common pseudonym for prostitute.

> Nothing PC about it.

An ironic comment from someone with a web address of http://whineymacfanboy.googlepages.com/ [googlepages.com] !

Re:Sex workers? (5, Insightful)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283064)

Yep, I will second that. Here in Oz we have something called the sex workers union [google.com] . Personally I think the "deadhookers" tag is extremely bad taste, it is disrespectful toward both the dead and their greiving relatives.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284030)

Personally I think the "deadhookers" tag is extremely bad taste, it is disrespectful toward both the dead and their greiving relatives.
Welcome to Slashdot, where the only substantial difference from /b/ is the lack of images.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

Duds (100634) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284056)

Then they can go read a different site.

I presume you've never made a joke about any kind of military conflict, you never watched M*A*S*H for instance?

Re:Sex workers? (3, Insightful)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283018)

I am amazed that so few slashdotters (reading the first 10 posts or so) are unfamiliar with that term. (Do you all live under rocks or something?)

A lot of Slashdotters are American and the term isn't really used in the USA, probably since prostitution is illegal in most parts of the country (excepting Nevada but not Las Vegas city). So terms that "legitimize" it are less likely to be used.

-b.

Re:Sex workers? (5, Insightful)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283060)

prostitution is illegal in most parts of the country

Seriously? Illegal? (not just regulated?)

Why is it illegal to sell a (much in demand) service in the land of the free?

Re:Sex workers? (3, Informative)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283100)

Seriously? Illegal? (not just regulated?)

Yeah, illegal, except for "rural" Nevada. Enforced to various degrees depending on where you are, and there are always loopholes for people setting up brothels ("it's a massage parlor, dammit!"). As to why - probably due to religious taboos to a large extent. After all, the USA *was* founded by Puritans.

I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits because she didn't take a job as a "sex worker." (Cite: [telegraph.co.uk] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml [telegraph.co.uk] ) I'd be ok if it were legal for the purpose of harm reduction but not overtly encouraged by the State.

-b.

Re:Sex workers? (3, Interesting)

notwrong (620413) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283320)

I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits because she didn't take a job as a "sex worker." (Cite: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne [telegraph.co.uk] ws/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml ) I'd be ok if it were legal for the purpose of harm reduction but not overtly encouraged by the State.

That seems like a much better argument for "legal but voluntary" than "illegal". The police in the US must waste so much time trying to stamp out something that is never, ever going to go away. Here in New South Wales (the most populous state in Australia), prostitution has been legal for decades. It's not like there isn't still a social stigma attached, but I find it hard to see how throwing criminal sanctions into the mix is helpful.

Re:Sex workers? (2, Informative)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283346)

That seems like a much better argument for "legal but voluntary" than "illegal". The police in the US must waste so much time trying to stamp out something that is never, ever going to go away.

Agreed about the "legal but voluntary" part. As far as US police, I don't think that they try *that* hard. They may run an occasional sting operation in some cities to look like they're doing something or if the residents of the neighborhood complain, but the law isn't enforced all that severely.

-b.

Re:Sex workers? (4, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283600)

Agreed about the "legal but voluntary" part. As far as US police, I don't think that they try *that* hard. They may run an occasional sting operation in some cities to look like they're doing something or if the residents of the neighborhood complain, but the law isn't enforced all that severely.

The big advantage of having prostitution legal and recognised as such is that you can require regular checks for STD's, as well as enforce standards for working conditions.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283384)

The founding fathers of the USA weren't as religious as the powers that be today.

Re:Sex workers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283530)

I hate to say it, but Your recent case is so last year AND an urban legend.

Re:Sex workers? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283544)

That is not what happened.

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp [snopes.com]

Re:Sex workers? (5, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283546)

I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits

Note there are no names or dates in that stpory. It's an urban legend. Never happened. http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp [snopes.com]

...a story was sensationalized for political purposes and passed from one news source to the next, and somewhere in the rewriting and translating process what was originally discussed as a mere hypothetical possibility has now been reported as a factual occurrence.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

redcane (604255) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283886)

Interesting since this ended up in a (supposedly) reputable Australian Newspaper (If my memory serves me right). Now, who to trust, snopes, or the newpaper. Although I have noticed a couple of "Direct from reuters news network" style cock ups in the papers.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283926)

Interesting since this ended up in a (supposedly) reputable Australian Newspaper

Read the Snopes article, it explains what seems to be the history of the story. Note that no version of the story names the woman who was supposed to have been forced to work in a brothel, or gives any other verifiable facts. Once a story gets on a wire service, it will go everywhere. The newspapers just cut and paste them to fill required space.

Like a lot of "it could have happened" stories, you have to think that if it did really happen, there would have been a lot more fuss made and the person involved would have done the media circuits and/or started a legal case.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283106)

Why is it illegal to sell a (much in demand) service in the land of the free?

IIRC, technically, it's not. It's simply illegal to do anything related to prostitution (communication with intent to..., etc.)

Wikipedia's article on "Prostitution in the United States" is not well developed.

- RG>

Re:Sex workers? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283158)

To "protect" the innocence of the women who would be whoring themselves on the streets, of course! As opposed to the capitalistic whoring done in other fields. . . .

In sparsely populated towns in Nevada it is legal, but only in brothels. IMHO I'd rather blow several hundred bucks on a coupling with a gorgeous professional "sex worker" than in a casino (I still haven't gotten around to mastering the art of counting cards, which means the odds are in the house's favor), but perhaps that is just me. Actually, I'd rather have the latest in graphics card technology...*sigh*. Geek.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

Grismar (840501) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283366)

A lot of Slashdotters are American and the term isn't really used in the USA, probably since prostitution is illegal in most parts of the country (excepting Nevada but not Las Vegas city). So terms that "legitimize" it are less likely to be used.

I'd say that a country with a porn industry with the size of the US' has a great need for a term like sex worker. Not to mention strip clubs, lap dancers, etc. None of those are illegal wholesale.

San Francisco... (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283504)

Maybe its more a term used in the cities where sexuality (among other things) or a little more open. Sex worker, in my understanding is slightly more open-ended. Meaning it can be used in reference to a number of activities.

Anyway, I think its sad how afraid of sexuality we are and I don't see a lot of good coming out of it. America was in many ways founded by missionaries and fundamentalists. Bad combo.

If anything feeds vice its repression and shame. There are certainly some things we should protect (children..) but I think we've taken sexuality and turned it into something we teach our children is wrong. We teach them shame and we do it out of ignorance and fear.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

martijn-s (456925) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283358)

Its basically a superset of prostitute - including people in the industry who don't actually fuck for money, ie strip dancers, porn stars, topless waiters, dominatrixes (sp?) etc.

Well, that's exactly what's strange. They all were prostitutes, so there's no reason to call them by a superset name. So indeed, the submitter was actually trying to be politically correct. Or didn't RTFA of course.

Prostitute? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17282912)

Prostitute, is that the academic term for cockwhore?

Jim South

Re:Prostitute? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17282922)

Why yes it is.

Re:Sex workers? (4, Funny)

mhore (582354) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283118)

Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

No. The term you're thinking of is Penile Stimulation Engineer, or something to that effect.

Mike.

Re:Sex workers? (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283792)

No. The term you're thinking of is Penile Stimulation Engineer, or something to that effect.
Come on, this is Slashdot. The "something to that effect" would be: Penis Engineer: Notable In Stimulation.
 

No, it is the respectful term. (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283920)

It is the term that people not intent on moralizing or stigmatizing oters will use.

But there are always some people intent in hurting and moralizing about what others do, I'll assume you don't belong to this group of bastards and that you ask driven just by natural curiosity.

sex workers? (2, Insightful)

puto (533470) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282814)

Well although my nick is Puto, which is technically male whore in spanish, and for the umpteenth time I am not gay and I know what it means it some countries.

But when in the hell did hookers become "sex workers"? What happened to prostitute?

Whore, escort, streetwalker, lady of the night, etc. Sex workers?

I guess this is like the "sanitation engineers"(garbagemen) or "network engineers"(i got a website and a linksys router and have 15 workstations to manage at work.)

Puto

Re:sex workers? (1)

dysfunct (940221) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282950)

It's only partially politically correct. Many prostitutes call themselves hookers with pride but do not like the term being used in derogatory ways.

Then there's also many men and women offering sexual services with high business ethics and highly professional attitude, just-for-fun prostitutes, tantra massage and other intimate services that involve some sexuality for spiritual and emotional reasons as well as parts of the sex industry that perform sexual acts that do not actually involve penetration or similar but focus on phantasy and mental aspects.

Long story short, prostitutes are still prostitutes but as such only a part of the performing sexual industry nowadays called sex workers.

Is the term "deadniggers" offensive? (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283750)

"Many prostitutes call themselves hookers with pride but do not like the term being used in derogatory ways.

Exactly! And illustrates the point I tried to make elsewhere about the "deadhookers" tag! Imagine if the story was about a series of race related murders, would the story be tagged as "deadniggers" or "deadgooks"?

My "moral compass" tells me it is just as offensive to dehumanise prostitutes as it is to dehumanise any other group. If anyone in this case could be considered "less than human" it would be the perpetrator, and even he will be afforded basic human rights by a civil society. In the UK (like most other western countries) this means that even though he took the "right to life" from others, the state does not have the right to take it from him as punishment.

Disclaimer: I recognise that Slashdot has the "right to offend", I don't dispute that. I am simply registering my dismay that they excercised it to: insinuate "they asked for it", trivialise murder, disrespect the dead, and possibly upset the still greiving relatives/freinds.

Re:Is the term "deadniggers" offensive? (1)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283878)

Thanks, man - I was taught at school that the first stage in (perm any 1 from 3) was to dehumanise the victim.

I'm offended - but then again, I reserve the right to be offensive myself, short of dehumanising anyone.

The next US based tragedy I shall be sure to tag deadyankeemofos or similar - haw about a dominoeffect tag for 9/11, for example?

Re:Is the term "deadniggers" offensive? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17284238)

That's ridiculous. You don't choose your race, but you can choose whether or not to be a fucking whore. Scumbags who can't think of anything better to do with their lives than fuck for money don't deserve your respect, they deserve your contempt.

Re:sex workers? (2, Informative)

fabs64 (657132) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282984)

You're aware that "whore" "prostitute" and "escort" all have other literal and colloquial meanings? Also the aforementioned words fail to include strippers etc.

Re:sex workers? (1)

EtherealStrife (724374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283294)

That's what "stripper" and "exotic dancer" are for. Lumping them all together under one category is a bit of a stretch, and unnecessary imo.

Although I must admit, doubleplussex worker has a nice ring to it.

Re:sex workers? (1)

fabs64 (657132) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283330)

Oh gimme a break.
"Sex Worker" is a pretty descriptive term and useful as a generic category.
No one is calling them "Happiness Workers"

Re:sex workers? (1)

EtherealStrife (724374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284280)

My problem is when "sex worker" replaces prostitute/hooker AND replaces stripper/exotic dancer. Then the distinction between the two is lost. In Germany and other parts of the world where prostitution is legalized, sex worker has virtually replaced "prostitute" and "stripper" and "erotic masseuse" and other professions related to sexual stimulation and erotica, thereby lumping all of them under the same roof. A relative of mine stripped to pay for college, but would never even consider accepting money for sex. Yet she was a "sex worker", lumped together with the HIV-bearing hookers working West Hollywood, and having unprotected sex. Along with all the less extreme examples of prostitutes. :) Now that terms like prostitute, hooker, stripper, etc are becoming un-PC, this general term encompasses all of them and is replacing them. Labels serve a purpose.

Re:sex workers? (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283946)

> That's what "stripper" and "exotic dancer" are for. Lumping them all together under one category is a bit of a stretch, and
> unnecessary imo.

What, like lumping "software engineer", "network analyst" and "database administrator" under the category "IT staff" is unnecessary?

Re:sex workers? (1)

EtherealStrife (724374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284240)

The problem is that what's happening in the sex industry is effectively this: software engineer, network analyst, and database administrator are all becoming simply "IT Staff". So someone who just does network analysis now has the same title as those database administrator whores (derogatory term used to make a point; I have nothing against database admins), and when people refer to IT Staff it refers to all three fields. Not everyone does all three.

As an aside, this *is* happening with the IT staff and is a horrible situation. Employers have certain expectations of the constantly-redefined "IT staff" individual, that the employee may not have been hired for, and have no business doing. For the sex worker who strictly strips, getting propositioned for the selling of one's body (sexually) may be insulting, sexual harassment, or downright illegal (depending on where you live). Distinction and clarity are necessary.

The shadier the lines are, the easier it is to generalize about the entire group as a single entity.

You guys in the US.... (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284010)

... sometimes really look awkward from the wider world.

All the terms you are mentioning are clearly derogative, do not tell us you did not know that as well.

I don't know about you, but if I were doing that activity for a living I would want to be referred as with a respectful term. Sex worker is the accepted term for people that use their sexuality to make a living, but refers more particularly to people that are paid to have sex with clients.

Re:sex workers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17284234)

I guess this is like the "sanitation engineers"(garbagemen) or "network engineers"(i got a website and a linksys router and have 15 workstations to manage at work.)

My all-time favorite was Petroleum Displacement Engineers. Though, with the advent of self-serve gas stations, they must surely be an endangered species.

Just the other day, I accidentally used the phrase, "check your oil and water" and had to explain it to a thirty year old woman.

This is probably a really bad idea (4, Informative)

AmiMoJo (196126) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282856)

This is probably not a good idea, because there is no anonymity with Skype. It is trivial to log the IP address of anyone calling. At least with a normal phone number, you can just use a public payphone and there is no real chance of being identified.

Anonymity is really important, especially if they want other sex workers to contact them. After all the recent "crack-downs" and "zero tolerance" policies, not to mention the bad reputation the police have, is it any wonder that prostitutes dont want to talk to them?

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (5, Informative)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282876)

This is probably not a good idea, because there is no anonymity with Skype

1) They have a normal number in addition to the skype links.
2) You can anonymously use skype from an internet cafe (most have it installed, with mic + headphones these days)
3) Its for convenience sake, so someone who doesn't think it's worth calling (for the little thing they remember seeing walking past) will just click on the link when reading a story.

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (2, Insightful)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283092)

2) You can anonymously use skype from an internet cafe (most have it installed, with mic + headphones these days)

Notwithstanding your other points, if I were concerned about anonymity/privacy, I wouldn't be blabbing about this kind of stuff in an internet cafe.

- RG>

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284256)

1) They have a normal number in addition to the skype links.

Actually, they don't. If anyone had cared to RTFA, they'd see only normal numbers. Unless you've installed a Skype toolbar and imagine the links it makes are actually on the BBC site. Hint: Look at the source HTML. Just numbers, no links at all.

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (2, Insightful)

hjf (703092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282878)

use tor (tor.eff.org) and you're most likely safe.

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (1)

elronxenu (117773) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283028)

If they knew how to use tor, they could make more money as a network administrator than as a prostitute, err hang on ...

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282904)

What about just changing you mac address and using someone elses WiFi network?

That is just as good or better than someone elses phone.

Re:This is probably a really bad idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283218)

But this is the UK, there will be a dozon cameras watching that pay phone you're calling from.

i cant see them (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17282900)


nowhere in the article can i see Skype mentioned or see any Skype links, perhaps the submitter has a Skype BHO (browser helper object) or a Firefox plugin that creates Skype links from phone numbers

iam on WinXP with FF2 and IE7 but i have Skype 2.5 (not the hideous mess called v3.0) perhaps Skype V3.0 installs such a facility by default

Nail (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282938)

You hit the nail on the head. Another fine job of "editing" from Slashdot, they didn't even check out the article!

Re:i cant see them (3, Informative)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 7 years ago | (#17282966)

Same here. No Skype links for me, with Safari and the near-latest Mac version.

Why do people suddenly care? (1, Insightful)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283030)

This women have been suffering for ages now. And have been killed by all sorts of people before. Why do people suddenly care about them? Society is very wierd. I personally think these women needed help long before one dude started taking them out.

Re:Why do people suddenly care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283072)

I personally think these women needed help long before one dude started taking them out.

It wasn't that he was taking them out. He just didn't pay the bill.

Re:Why do people suddenly care? (2, Insightful)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283114)

I personally think these women needed help long before one dude started taking them out.

Agreed, but can you really help them if they don't want to go into drug treatment or maybe even don't think they have a problem? AFAIK, Britain has one of the best systems in this regard anyway, since they'll actively pay for drug treatment for addicts rather than just jailing them.

-b.

Not quite that good. (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284036)

People are jailed for drug offences, one of these ladies spent one year in jail for drug related offences (i.e possession or trafficking).

Is a fact, recognized by this government, that drug addicts get little or no help while they are in jail.

Having said that, if you want to quit they provide you with some help, but, foolishly, drug addicts don;t seem to be anybody's priority (if the government was any wise drug addicts should be a helat priority since a big percentage of petty crime is related to drug addicts trying to get money for their next fix).

Re:Why do people suddenly care? (2, Interesting)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283720)

This women have been suffering for ages now. And have been killed by all sorts of people before. Why do people suddenly care about them?
You seem to be implying (albeit unintentionally) that our only justifiable course of action is to continue to ignore their plight. Also, if you think that police have not cared about the murder of prostitutes before, I'd like to direct you to information about Jack the Ripper [wikipedia.org] , who killed exclusively prostitutes in the late 1800s.

Furthermore, are you implying that we are only allowed to care about a person's murder if we also took steps to improve their lot in life? I don't know about the UK, but in the US we have something called welfare [wikipedia.org] that a woman could live in on instead of prostituting herself. We also have student loans [wikipedia.org] to go to college (including extremely cheap community college) and free public education. Anyone who becomes a prostitute sure doesn't become one for lack of opportunity. He or she either makes a conscious decision to get some fast money and then gets caught up in the system of crime (or, perhaps in a few cases, just really loves sex), is forced into the system through slavery, or isn't told about FAFSA opportunities.

If it is slavery, we already have laws banning that, and there is enforcement of the laws in the US. Perhaps, because there is a lot of slavery and human trafficking we don't know about (and it is difficult to detect often), there is a lot of forced prostitution we just don't know about or cannot track down.

If it is for the love of sex, well, shouldn't a woman or man be allowed to make that decision for themself?

If it is for the lack of information about financial aid, I don't know how it could be improved -- every high school I've been to in the US has posters on the walls about the program. And "welfare" is a household word in the US.

If it is someone who got caught up in the system and is now trapped in the system, this is the same as the aforementioned slavery case, and all cases have now been reduced to two: slavery or willful participation. The only one we should care about remedying (excluding moral objections to prostitution -- which not everyone has, e.g. Las Vegas and the Netherlands) is slavery/human trafficking, and I think government already actively cracks down on that sort of thing.

Thus, it seems that the US government (I cannot vouch for the UK government, as I do not know what the UK does for human trafficking within its borders) does, in fact, care about these woman (perhaps not personally, but as a whole) with regards to public policy decisions and legislation.

Re: Why do people suddenly care? Answer & Cont (4, Insightful)

evilandi (2800) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284130)

pembo13: Why do people suddenly care?

The answer: This case involves a large number of murders within a short space of time in a quiet semi-rural area where murders are exceptionally rare and crime very low.

Let's not kid ourselves that anyone (significant) cares about prostitutes, especially not drug-addicted ones. This is about five murders within a fortnight in a middle-class provincial town (100,000 folks). Ipswitch [wikipedia.org] , contrary to London-based journalists misunderstanding, doesn't have a "red light district". It has a corner of a road near a truck stop. Not even one whole street. Think almost the furthest town you can imagine from The Bronx. Think Agatha Christie's "Miss Marple".

To give context, the town is only a few miles from where Constable painted The Hay Wain [wikipedia.org] , possibly the most famous English countryside scene of all time. Imagine five naked dead women on the banks of that painting- the bodies were found in similar locations. THAT is why people suddenly care, because it is so incredibly unusual given the semi-rural location.

First time for what? (5, Funny)

SQL Error (16383) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283062)

Is this the first time Skype has been used in this way?
For making phone calls? Probably not.

deadhookers, now that is a sad tag for humanity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283084)

deadpeople would be better. These people have been murdered. It is in noway funny. Just because they don't write code for money don't make them less of people. Do you like your job? No? Still you are lucky to have some choice in what you do, most of the "deadhookers" do not. Im pretty sure they disliked being killed just as much as you would have... When will humanity stop feeling its OK (or fully) to harrass or even kill people just because of there social status?

Re:deadhookers, now that is a sad tag for humanity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283452)

Oh lighten up, that tag is just fake macho bullshit overcompensation for the average geek's mortal fear of human females in particular, and sex acts in general.

Mobile Phone Tracking (3, Interesting)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283108)

I wonder if the murderer was stupid enough to have a mobile phone with him when he dumped the bodies. All you would have to do is do a search of all mobile phones that have been in those particular cells at the estimated times of death of each victim. The bodies were dumped in the surrounding countryside so it might narrow it down to a few phones. Another possible line of attack is that the murderer's mobile phone would have been in the same cell as each victims mobile phone for some amount of time. Once you have his mobile number, the game is up. Even if it was not purchased in his name, the phone would spend most of its time where he lives, so it would be simple to narrow it down to the row of houses where he lives.

Re:Mobile Phone Tracking (1)

finnw (415539) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284420)

I suspect they have tried that. I also suspect it will not work. Mobile phone tracking is just not that accurate.
In my last job I was involved in a project to track machines (to prevent theft) using embedded GSM modems (The phone company had a service where you could get the equivalent of GPS coordinates and we would draw the location on a map in a web page.) You could tell which cell was nearest and the approximate distance from it but because cells are so thinly spread in the British countryside you could end up with a large crescent-shaped area that covered half the town.
I have a vague memory of a paedophile and/or murderer being caught in the mid-1990s in the UK based on a mobile phone trace that supposedly pinned down his location to a particular corner of a field. I can't seem to find anything using Google now though. Anyone else remember this? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Roy Whiting (who murdered Sarah Payne) - it was a year or two earlier.
Perhaps they are able to track locations more accurately if requested by the police, but I fear it may just be that an "expert witness" drew a point on a map and noone questioned the accuracy.

Besides, there's no need to kill them (1, Flamebait)

rdwald (831442) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283228)

Most of them already dead inside.

Besides, there's no need to kill them (-1, Troll)

rdwald (831442) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283242)

Most of them are already dead inside.

Re:Besides, there's no need to kill them (1)

redcane (604255) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283914)

Come now, That was a "Family Guy" reference, not flamebait. Of course the humour in Family guy borders on flamebait on occasion....

Re:Besides, there's no need to kill them (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284050)

Although you put it too bluntly (for which you have been labeled a flammer :-) ). there is a monumental grain of truth there. One of the ladies used tos say to one of her firends that she was convinced she will not live beyond the age of 24...

Skype 3.0 Phone Highlighting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283290)

There's no Skype link unless you've installed Skype 3.0 which automatically highlights any phone number at least on Firefox... So... yeah.

google (1)

ticklish2day (575989) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283560)

I must make it a point to recommend this awesome tool called a "Search Engine" to you. In my humble opinion (IMHO), the best "Search Engine" I know is named Google and is available at www.google.com [google.com] . It's free and easy to use.. To go there, please click the text that is underlined in the previous sentence. There is a rectangle that us geeks call a "text box" where you can type "words". For example, why don't you type "skype dead hookers" or "skype police investigation" into it and click the button named "Google Search"? You will then be magically transported to a page with lots of things on it that you can click and figure out the answer to your question.

Fellow slashdotters, please add to this comment with more detailed instructions on how to search using Google (screenshots welcome).

There are NO SKYPE LINKS in TFA (4, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283576)

Anyone with information that would help Ipswich detectives is urged to contact the incident room on 0800 096 1011 or speak to Crimestoppers in confidence on 0800 555 111.

Which idiot wrote the headline without even looking at TFA?

Re:There are NO SKYPE LINKS in TFA (4, Informative)

jasoncart (573937) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283938)

Looks like the submitter has this [skype.com] installed, which turns the phone numbers into Skype links. This toolbar was distributed with the latest version of Skype.

Story is false (4, Informative)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283752)

(I posted this further down as a reply to an anon comment, so it got buried.)

Guys, this story is false. I see no Skype links. Do you see any Skype links?

Slightly Offtopic (2, Funny)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283936)

There was a great interview with one of the Chief Constables involved in this case about the number of calls they were receiving from the public

Interviewer: There's been a massive public response to your request for information hasn't there, how are you coping with the sheer volume of information you are getting ?
Police: Obviously we're very pleased with the positive response and we're working through everything we receive.
Interviewer: A lot of its very helpful but you were just telling me you're also getting a lot of calls about peoples dreams and what cards or dice have told them ?
Police: Er, yes we are. That sort of information isn't a high priority
Interviewer: Clearly you're being polite, it's just a waste of your time isn't it ?
Police: We would rather concentrate on serious information
Interviewer: These people are just getting in the way of your investigation by phoning up with this, frankly, nonsense aren't they ?
Police: Well yes, we would rather they didn't bother us with superstious nonsense.

Re:Slightly Offtopic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17283996)

Fantastic - do you have a source for this?

Slashdot's most offensive moments (5, Insightful)

gjuk (940514) | more than 7 years ago | (#17283988)

So, someone posts a non-story about Skype being used by the police and bbc to report infomration on murdered women. Slashdot users don't discuss the fakeness of the story, or the skype marketing angle, or the future of telecoms. They feel it appropriate to make declarations and guenuinely offensive 'humour' about murdered women.
Seriously, these women may be prostitutes, but the key facts are: 5 people were murdered in a market town in the space of a couple of weeks. These people were people; daughters, mothers, sisters. They were all, I believe, hooked on drugs. And one day they may have got off drugs and enjoyed a normal life. Not now. The fascination some /.ers have shown for the 'sex angle' makes me worry about who I'm associating with here, and says far more about the writers than the victims.

advertising (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284152)

If the BBC is using Skype - and there seems to be some doubt about this - then someone should be asking serious questions about their charter. The BBC is forbidden from advertising and is directly funded by a license fee.

To the point where kids TV show "Blue Peter" would have handcraft items on making things out of old packaging, any branding or logos on the packaging had to be blacked out.

No way should the BBC be promoting skype - blatantly or otherwise. Brits, ask the BBC for your license fee back. Ask your MP why this is happening. If the BBC wants to be honest about their advertising then fine, scrap the license fee.

Of course, the BBC smuggles PR, payola, and viral marketing into news, tech and entertainment items all the time - and I'm sure someone somewhere gets a nice backhander for those. The News dept is the one most guilty of marketing products.

However, to be this blatant should result in someone being fired.

Re:advertising (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17284182)

RTFA, BBC.co.uk article doesn't mention Skype at all.

Re:advertising (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284276)

If the BBC is using Skype - and there seems to be some doubt about this

No doubt at all. Click on the BBC link. Then you find a web page without any mention of Skype.

Sex Workers Okay? (1)

nerdussuperior (1041196) | more than 7 years ago | (#17284406)

It can seem like an enjoyable way to make alot of bucks if it wasn't that it often destroys there self-worth. There is something about intimate contact and cash that makes women just feel like things being used. People naturally look for respect, even from strangers. Somehow I think sex workers get little of that.
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