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PC World's 20 Most Innovative Products of 2006

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the top-20-list dept.

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Craig Sender writes "PC World has put together a list of their choices for the 20 Most Innovative Products of 2006. The List includes Office 2007, Nintendo Wii, Sony Reader, Sony PlayStation 3, the BlackBerry Pearl, and some other interesting choices."

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#21 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17383864)

Slashdot Color Themes

Print view (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17383878)

http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,128176 /printable.html [pcworld.com]

Ridiculous that the article is stretched across 8 pages.

Re:Print view (3, Interesting)

AZScotsman (962881) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383968)

Gotta make room for all those ads somehow.... I stopped paying attention to PC World and PC Week over 8 years ago. It's pretty clear that their "reviews" have lapsed into the Puff-Piece Zone, and the rating they give software/hardware is relative to the number of full-page ads the subject has bought over the last twelve issues. Years ago, I wrote for a "subscription-only" print mag that reviewed game software and published hints and walkthrus (Yeah, it was a cushy job, but somebody had to do it...). We didn't take a penny for advertising and the staff was encouraged to "call it like you see it". Unfortunately, the lack of adspace also meant a low income for the company. Long story short - no more magazine.

Re:Print view (1)

curtisk (191737) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384248)

Ridiculous that the article is stretched across 8 pages.

Thanks for the alternate view linkage, it would hurt even more if I had to read that spotty list clicking "next" over and over

Re:Print view (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384348)

Why did you feel the need to add 'age' to the word 'link'?

Are you also one of those nutters who asks: "Got any coinage?"

WHAT IS WRONG WITH COINS! WHAT!

Re:Print view (1)

vought (160908) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384578)

Thanks for the alternate view linkage, it would hurt even more if I had to read that spotty list clicking "next" over and over

And on PC World's site, the article's "next" and "back" links are nearly pixel for pixel copies of....Safari's back and forward buttons.

Even PC World's web site is aping the Mac OS now!

Re:Print view (1)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384404)

Ooh, this also gets rid of the insane amounts of advertisement on either side of the article. Thanks!

Office 2007? (1, Troll)

vp_development (789333) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383880)

Good lord, how is this innovation in anything except crapiness? Office 2007 is the opposite of ODF [wikipedia.org] , which is the wave of the future in documents. Fighting against the community for profit is hardly innovative -- MSFT has been doing it for years.

Re:Office 2007? (1, Offtopic)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383906)

It's innovative if you're looking for new and exciting ways to make money. Maybe that's what the article was getting at?

Re:Office 2007? (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384016)

Well, if you read the article it seems pretty clear they are considering the interface to be innovative. Personally, I tend to agree with them, its miles better than other productivity software I have used in the past. (imho of course, its subjective)

I dont think that using either ODF or MS Open XML (or whatever its called) is very innovative one way or the other. Claiming they arent/are being innovative by choosing one format over another is kind of silly.

Just because you dont like that they arent supporting ODF doesnt mean they arent innovating in other areas.

Re:Office 2007? (5, Insightful)

linguae (763922) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384064)

Office 2007's innovation is the ribbon interface, which does away from the traditional toolbar/menu interface. Although I personally don't like the interface (the ribbons are uncustomizable, and some options that used to require only one click on a toolbar now require two or three clicks), the interface does accomplish the task of placing related options together in an easily accessible way to novices of Office, as well as accessing less-commonly used features.

Like the interface or not, the ribbon interface is an innovative way of grouping tasks together, especially in a program such as Microsoft Office that supports hundreds of features. If the ribbon interface contained some concessions for experienced computer users (shortcuts and ribbon customization, for example), then the ribbon interface may be a serious contender to the traditional menu/toolbar paradigm on the Windows platform. This is probably the single most innovative thing I've seen coming from Microsoft yet, even if I personally don't like it ;)

Re:Office 2007? (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384130)

Personally I really like the new way they are doing keyboard shortcuts. If you push alt keytips appear on all the different tabs/buttons. I got in the habit of doing this and within a few hours I was faster at doing most tasks in 2007 than I was in 2003 or even emacs (apples and oranges, I know). You should try it, I really liked it, it seemed to have a very low learning curve but was fairly powerful.

Re:Office 2007? (2, Informative)

a_ghostwheel (699776) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384662)

This was in Lotus Notes for a long time now.

Re:Office 2007? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384138)

Yup, this ribbon thingy is the innovation that is going to send the technophobes, rigidly used to the conventions of M$ Office since '95 or '97, screaming over to OpenOffice, where, paradoxically, they will feel more at home. Factor in all the retraining, hand holding and slowdown in productivity of large scale offices & OpenOffice starts looking even better. Way to go M$.

Re:Office 2007? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384482)

Insightful?

He is doing that idiotic M$ thing, and he is evading the question of whether the ribbon is innovative or not by turning it into a comparison versus OpenOffice, a fairly typical holy war trope.

He has a point, but, it's totally off topic. Let me try to match it:

Oranges have a higher vitamin C content than apples
Comparing apples and oranges was the sort of thing M$ does when it claims advantages over the *nix solution!

I also find this incredibly ironic, given that the main thrust of his argument was in fact praising a totally non-innovative design for being non-innovative -- OpenOffice's interface is a clone of Office's (pre-2007 Office's, anyway).

Disclaimer: I code for OpenOffice, and it's what I use.

More bad analogies (1)

wasted (94866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384340)

When I think of innovation, I think of things like the automatic transmission when only the manual transmission existed before. Office 2007 innovations (the ribbon interface) seem to be more like moving the manual transmission's shift lever instead of implementing automatic shifting.

I could be wrong, though, and I am sure others may disagree. I DO accept my nomination for the Bad Analogy award, if one exists, and I am nominated.

Re:More bad analogies (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384412)

By your definition an interface can never be innovative then. It would only be the same functionality as before but "moved around".

Re:More bad analogies (1)

wasted (94866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384500)

By your definition an interface can never be innovative then. It would only be the same functionality as before but "moved around".

Good point, which is why I self-nominated for the bad analogy award. Even so, let me strengthen my case for that award with some explanation.

As far as interfaces go, I think the only real notable innovation was the move from command line to graphics. Anything else (to this point,) is "moving the shift lever." A commercially-viable, dependable, verbal command interface would be an innovation, but I haven't seen one yet.

Others with more info may disagree, and I hope they chime in.

Re:Office 2007? (2, Insightful)

nacturation (646836) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384432)

Good lord, how is this innovation in anything except crapiness? Office 2007 is the opposite of ODF [wikipedia.org] , which is the wave of the future in documents. Fighting against the community for profit is hardly innovative -- MSFT has been doing it for years.
Give it a rest. This community of which you speak has been ripping off Microsoft Office for inspiration for years. Check out OpenOffice.org's innovative word processor interface [openoffice.org] -- everything is ripped off, from the font dropdowns, the indent/unindent icons, to the bold/italic/underline options, the clipboard icons, even the 3.5" floppy disk drive icon representing the save function. And who saves to floppy drives anymore? As far as interfaces go, I'd say it's pretty hard to rip something off better than this community-created word processor has. I'd check out the other apps in its Office-clone suite but I don't think I'd find much different.

Also, a news flash for you: Microsoft probably doesn't really care about ODF because the vast majority of its customers really don't give a damn what the other 1% of people who don't use Microsoft Office are scheming about. The only reason there's a whole push to this ODF format is because people are jealous of Microsoft Office's success and they want to push Microsoft to adopt this format so that they can gain a foothold into Microsoft's market. Why do you care whether or not other software vendors adopt ODF? If it's the wave of the future in documents as you claim, then I guess Microsoft will get left out and will become irrelevant and you'll be raking in the dough sitting at the open source helpdesk answering questions all day. Won't that better further your ideological agenda than having Microsoft become the dominant player and supporter of ODF?

And as far as "fighting against the community... for years" goes, where did you pull that statement from? I'll assume you're referring to the open source community since the business community has been very well served by Microsoft. If you subtract the drama from your statement, I think it would be more accurate to say that Microsoft has been ignoring the open source community for years. It's interesting how people react to a lack of attention. All this just seems to me that a few open source fanboys are throwing a tantrum because they didn't get invited to play in Microsoft's sanbox.
 

Re:Office 2007? (1)

Giometrix (932993) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384600)

"Give it a rest. This community of which you speak has been ripping off Microsoft Office for inspiration for years." I agree with you about the "ripping off" part, but I don't really consider it "ripping off," but rather borrowing and extending. Microsoft is constantly bashed for ripping of Apple. MS fans like to bash Linux/Open Office fans because of the similarity to Windows and Office. But why WOULDN'T you want to emulate the parts that have been proven to work? Microsoft spends millions upon millions researching what people want: from color schemes, to icon size and placement, to sounds. MS gets a lot of the things that most customers don't know about/care about wrong(like security), but the looks, feel and usability of there products is something they don't skimp on, because it is what sells. Not using Microsoft (or Apple) as a guide to the user interface will almost certainly doom your project to be used only by a very small audience. If it FEELS like the software that people know and love, they will be much more likely to use it.

Re:Office 2007? (1)

Giometrix (932993) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384620)

sorry, didn't mean to post in html mode:

"Give it a rest. This community of which you speak has been ripping off Microsoft Office for inspiration for years."

I agree with you about the "ripping off" part, but I don't really consider it "ripping off," but rather borrowing and extending. Microsoft is constantly bashed for ripping of Apple. MS fans like to bash Linux/Open Office fans because of the similarity to Windows and Office. But why WOULDN'T you want to emulate the parts that have been proven to work? Microsoft spends millions upon millions researching what people want: from color schemes, to icon size and placement, to sounds. MS gets a lot of the things that most customers don't know about/care about wrong(like security), but the looks, feel and usability of there products is something they don't skimp on, because it is what sells. Not using Microsoft (or Apple) as a guide to the user interface will almost certainly doom your project to be used only by a very small audience. If it FEELS like the software that people know and love, they will be much more likely to use it.

gah (4, Interesting)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383888)

Can this article please be re-labeled as an advertorial?

I'd like to see advertising revenue figures from 2006 for the featured items' companies on PCWorlds financials... I wonder how closely they'd tie in to the rank of the products.

I'm sure it's part of their sales strategy (I work in print publishing... you can bet advertisers get preferential treatment in editorial content).

Here are the top 10. (5, Informative)

khasim (1285) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383944)

1. Microsoft Office 2007
2. Intel Core 2 Duo
3. Parallels Desktop for Mac
4. Nintendo Wii
5. Samsung 32GB SSD
6. Sony Reader
7. YouOS
8. Dell XPS M2010
9. Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 750GB
0. T-Mobile Dash

Re:Here are the top 10. (4, Insightful)

seebs (15766) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384152)

Innovative?

Core 2 Duo: How is this anything but an incremental improvement over the Core Duo, which is in turn just improvements on techniques that have been out there for years? The first dual-core chip could have been innovative. The 39th or whatever this is isn't.

MS Office 2007: I see. So, Office 6, Office 97, Office XP, Office 2003, none of those were innovative. But this one, the 10th or so in a series, really is. ...

I just don't see any innovation here. A hard drive bigger than previous hard drives? Unheard of!

Re:Here are the top 10. (4, Funny)

stubear (130454) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384184)

Well then you're fucking blind. Office 2007 is innovative because it rethinks the toolbar interface. The ribbon is a great UI concept and exposes hidden functionality in the older versions of Office.

Re:Here are the top 10. (2, Insightful)

seebs (15766) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384386)

Maybe it's neat. Is it one of the ten most innovative things done in an entire year?

I mean, every time there's a new Office, various MS-fans tell me that it's completely innovative and, unlike the previous one, doesn't suck. Why should I believe it this time?

Re:Here are the top 10. (1)

Rockgod (962796) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384444)

Nobody is forcing you to believe anything on hear-say. Why don't just try it out and add some weight to your Office bashing?

P.S: Please don't tell you're sick of already trying out the all the previous versions and why should this version of Office be better. It just may be.

Re:Here are the top 10. (1, Troll)

seebs (15766) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384460)

If you'll buy it for me, I'll try it.

I'm not about to spend $hundreds on the off chance that, for the first time since 1987, I'm going to find that MS Word has suddenly become a good tool for writing with.

Re:Here are the top 10. (2, Informative)

masdog (794316) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384546)

The good news is that its free to try for 60 days.

Re:gah (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383978)

In 2005 they ranked firefox and gmail the #1 and #2 best products of the year. Neither of those two advertises with PC World. (to my knowledge, correct me if I am wrong)

Could it be that MS Office (#1 on this list) just isnt popular with the slashdot crowd and that is why the first several posts are denouncing PC World as paid Microsoft shills?

Could be. (4, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384006)

Could it be that MS Office (#1 on this list) just isnt popular with the slashdot crowd and that is why the first several posts are denouncing PC World as paid Microsoft shills?

It could be.

But then ..... look at #8
8. Dell XPS M2010

Sporting a cutting-edge design, the Dell XPS M2010 (starting price $2999) makes a bold and immediate statement. Not quite a desktop and definitely less portable than a standard notebook, this hybrid system neatly balances elements of both. You get a 20.1-inch screen, a slot-loading DVD drive, and a detachable, full-size Bluetooth keyboard, plus an integrated Webcam, eight built-in speakers, and a subwoofer. Powering this entertainment system are ATI graphics, an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, and up to 4GB of RAM. It also folds up into a briefcase-like bundle, complete with a handle--but it weighs a hefty 18-plus pounds.

Now, compare that to this system.
http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/compaq/ [obsoleteco...museum.org]

Yes, the "luggable" computer. But, all you have to do to make it "innovative" is to add more speakers (speakers with a portable computer, how ... innovative) and a bigger screen (see previous).

And reviews like that are why PC World is disparaged.

Re:Could be. (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384080)

I think there is a fair bit of difference between those two things. The dell looks like a product specifically designed for LAN gamer types in mind and improves a great deal on the ease of lugging it around compared to what existed before. It looks to me more like a desktop designed to be easy to move around than a traditional laptop. The computer you linked to looks more like an ancient precurser to the laptop than a gamers system that is easy to move around.

I guess you can make the case that a luggable computer you could use the way you would a desktop when its unpacked isnt that hard to think of and therefore not that innovative. But if thats true then why wasnt anyone else making computers like this before them?

I will agree with you that the blurb reads like an ad, but that is true of most "Top 10/20/2^32" lists

I dont know a terrible amount about LAN gamers or their systems so if I am way off please dont flame me too hard. Most of my comments on this system are mostly based on speculation. : )

The difference being 22 years. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384142)

I think there is a fair bit of difference between those two things.

Yes. About 22 years worth of "difference". Seeing as how I believe that the Compaq luggable was around in 1984.

It looks to me more like a desktop designed to be easy to move around than a traditional laptop.

Yes. Hence the term "luggable".

The computer you linked to looks more like an ancient precurser to the laptop than a gamers system that is easy to move around.

"gamers system"?

I guess you can make the case that a luggable computer you could use the way you would a desktop when its unpacked isnt that hard to think of and therefore not that innovative. But if thats true then why wasnt anyone else making computers like this before them?

Compaq was making them back in 1984.

The reason they fell out of style is because you have all the limitations of a laptop with the weight of a desktop.

Gamers who want to move their EXPANDABLE desktop machines buy something like this:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/37dc/ [thinkgeek.com]

There, the portability of a cinder block with the expandability of a desktop system.

Surprisingly enough, they make great gifts.

Re:The difference being 22 years. (0)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384228)

I am familiar with those types of bags/cases. I think you are making my point for me to some degree by pointing out that what people have used in the past to accomplish that task is different at least to some degree from what dell is offering.

Yes, this is somewhat similar to the system you mentioned. A luggable desktop could have a real audience that would want it now whereas the product you mentioned wasnt that great for the reasons you listed. You could make an argument that just about any product which is considered innovative is similar to a product from the past but it is now more useful/interesting for whatever reason. Lots of people claimed that the ipod was innovative when it came out but it was obviously nothing noone had ever thought of before.

Dont get me wrong, I am not saying this dell is equivalent to inventing the internet or whatever. But I think it is innovative to some small degree, at least enough that it isnt "just" an advertisement.

Re:Could be. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384280)

The number one reason this wouldn't be a LAN gamers system is the big Dell logos on it.

Re:Could be. (1)

Rakishi (759894) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384398)

It's also hardly innovative by any measure, there have been various home made luggable modern computers usually using a suitcase of some sort (with monitors at times). I'm sure some of them came very close to the Dell in idea if with less polish or style. All Dell did was take what those people attempted to do and put actual money into it, and that's marketing not innovation.

You mentioned the ipod in another comment which wasn't, if one considers it as such, innovative because it was an mp3.portable player (those already existed asfaik) but because it was a good portable player. A product need not be original in form or function to be innovative in details but that's up to the public and reviewers to decide. I personally find the Dell essentially worthless but that's just me.

Re:gah (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384198)

Could it be that MS Office (#1 on this list) just isnt popular with the slashdot crowd and that is why the first several posts are denouncing PC World as paid Microsoft shills?
No, for me it weas the gushing reviews of products (with links to their sales sites) that just didn't seem to be anything more than gloss ads. Nothing at all to do with Microsoft in particular.

Re:gah (1)

masdog (794316) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384668)

Seeing as how Office 2007 isn't technically out yet (at least I can't go to Best Buy/Fry's/CompUSA/NewEgg/etc and purchase a copy), it strikes me as astroturfing.

Both Firefox and GMail were hard to ignore. They took the world by storm and forced Microsoft (and in GMail's case, just about every other webmail provider) to improve their product.

Re:gah (2, Informative)

sanyam_y (982945) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384204)

Intel/Microsoft != Innovation. Their products might be the most successful in the year, but certainly not innovative.

Proving once again that PC World has no shame (4, Insightful)

loftwyr (36717) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383898)

PC World brings you the top 20 most frequent advertisers' current most hyped object!

But wait! There wasn't an iPod! But iPods are the most innovative things evar!

Number 0 must be the iPod Video, now with rubber ducky control built in!

Re:Proving once again that PC World has no shame (1)

fastgood (714723) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384012)

I don't ever read ads. It looks like 10 companies, well-represented at the mall:

Microsoft
Intel
Samsung
Sony
Dell
Seagate
Sony
T-Mobile
Sony
Logitech

Aren't they just guilty of being rich consumer electronics companies?

Re:Proving once again that PC World has no shame (4, Insightful)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384212)

Well, I went looking for a definition of Innovate and what I got was:

To begin or introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time.

What bothers me with this list is that most of the products can not really be classified as inovative; the list might be alright if it was the 10 most important products released in 2006, or the 10 most improved product lines of 2006, but 10 most innovative is a big stretch. Now, I recognize that this is partially my love of the Wii speaking but the Wii is (from my understanding) the only product on that list which really brings anything new; the others may bring a lot of improvement to their product lines, but they don't bring much that is really new.

Re:Proving once again that PC World has no shame (1)

aerthling (796790) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384536)

Disappointingly, it appears you were not using a Microsoft Certified dictionary. PC World is just using the term 'innovative' as defined by the Microsoft Standard American Dictionary.

innovative (in-no-va-tive)
adjective: Bigger, buggier, and more expensive than the last fifteen versions. May incorporate slight cosmetic enhancements and added minor functionality.
Example: Microsoft Office is more innovative than any of its competitors.

Annoying article.. (1, Redundant)

euxneks (516538) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383910)

Is anyone else annoyed at the amount of ads you have to see not just once, but _every_ time you have to view the "next" part of the webpage? This is the internet fer god's sake! Put all the content on one page or you're not getting my possible viewing revenue!

Re:Annoying article.. (1)

cheebie (459397) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383938)

As with most articles like this, hitting the 'print' link brings up the article all on one page with less advertising. Except, of course, for the article itself which is 100% product placement.

Re:Annoying article.. (1)

DebateG (1001165) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384426)

Just click "Print." That takes you to one page views.

Pre-emptive PS3 defence (0)

jpardey (569633) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383912)

I am going to assume there will be a lot of complaining about the PS3 being included. It does two things that are pretty novel: A chip tailored for the application and high performance computing (sorry for the buzzword) when off the shelf components are becoming more and more commonplace. Come on, you want a Cell, don't you? Imagine running a differential equation solver in real time for sound synthesis on one of those, say. Also, I think it is a tool to market Blu-ray, which is a rather interesting strategy. Blu-Ray will probably pay off as games get bigger with the screens, and should generate a lot of revenue for Sony, if it defeats HD-DVD in the home movie market.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383994)

A chip tailored for the application and high performance computing (sorry for the buzzword) when off the shelf components are becoming more and more commonplace. Come on, you want a Cell, don't you? Imagine running a differential equation solver in real time for sound synthesis on one of those, say

What?

Also, I think it is a tool to market Blu-ray, which is a rather interesting strategy. Blu-Ray will probably pay off as games get bigger with the screens, and should generate a lot of revenue for Sony, if it defeats HD-DVD in the home movie market.

While games may eventually need the space provided by Blu-Ray discs, I can't see that happening for another 4-5 years at least. In the meantime, proper compression techniques and at worst multi-DVD games will be more than enough. As for beating HD-DVD, I'd say the chips are historically stacked against Sony. They didn't win with Betamax, MiniDisc, Memory Stick, or UMD. I'd be surprised if they win with Blu-Ray. Besides, the price of an Xbox 360 + HD-DVD player is about the same as a PS3, and HD-DVD standalone players are generally cheaper than standalone BD players. To top it off, early HD-DVD transfers have been much better than on BD, giving HD-DVD an early quality lead.

It'll probably be at least another year before there's a clear winner in this format war, but if I was a betting man I'd have to go with HD-DVD for now. It has much more going for it than Blu-Ray. Sony might pull it out of their collective asses with BD, but don't count on it.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384046)

I'd be surprised if they win with Blu-Ray.

Ignoring ANY merits of the two formats and pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE that either has going for it, it's pretty easy to predict that blu-ray will win over HD-DVD. Why? Because even if the PS3 is a horrible, horrible failure and only sells 10 million units over the course of its lifetime, that's 10 million more blu-ray players in homes, which HD-DVD likely can't hope to match.

Plus, as everyone seems to forget, it's not only Sony backing blu-ray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations_ supporting_Blu-ray [wikipedia.org]

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384288)

Plus, as everyone seems to forget, it's not only Sony backing blu-ray:

But also don't forget that it's only Sony gets the royalty check at the end of the day.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384258)

Wow, you're like the poster child Xbot fanboy.

"Xbox 360 + HD-DVD player is about the same as a PS3"

$499 PS3
1080p HD movie playback
HDMI and component connection
Virtually silent unit operation
Fantastic reviews in all AV publications

$399 Xbox 360 + $199 HD-DVD addon = $598 out the door price
No 1080p support
No HDMI connection
Extremely noisy 360 base unit

So basically you are paying 100 premium for a clunky addon unit that is vastly inferior to the PS3.

"While games may eventually need the space provided by Blu-Ray discs"

Games already are. Launch PS3 games are in the 16gig range. Get over it.

"proper compression technique"

The standard meaningless Xbot damage control meme. Next.

"Betamax"

Right on time.

"early HD-DVD transfers have been much better than on BD"

Still clinging to those two or three cherry picked transfers I see.

"It'll probably be at least another year before there's a clear winner in this format war, but if I was a betting man I'd have to go with HD-DVD for now. It has much more going for it than Blu-Ray. Sony might pull it out of their collective asses with BD, but don't count on it."

That is because you are dimwitted fanboy still clinging to your FUD like a life preserver.

There are going to be some 10 million BluRay equipped PS3s out there by middle of next year. It's over, deal with it fanboy.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

SmlFreshwaterBuffalo (608664) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384306)

A chip tailored for the application...
You've obviously never heard of an ASIC [wikipedia.org] before.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (2, Insightful)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384556)

Imagine running a differential equation solver in real time for sound synthesis on one of those, say. Also, I think it is a tool to market Blu-ray, which is a rather interesting strategy.

This is exactly how Sony is shitting on their gamers. I don't want to solve differential equations. I don't want to sponsor a Blu-ray marketing campaign. I want to play games.

The cell processor is optimized for in-order processing. As far as games are concerned, this makes it ideal for pretty reflection and water effects, and practically crippled for gameplay elements like AI (you know, things that make games fun). If they were marketing it as a general purpose processor, it might be innovative. For the PS3, it's anything but.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384650)

The PS3 is indeed innovative. The Cell is the first non-shared memory multiprocessor in a mass market product. Whether this is a good idea or a dead end, like the Itanic, remains to be seen.

I personally think that the hassles of a non-shared memory machine outweigh the advantages, especially when the amount of memory per processor is on the low side. The XBox 360 is a 3-CPU shared memory multiprocessor, and presents no new programming problems. Historically, non-shared memory multiprocessors are very hard to program. The Ncube, the BBN Butterfly, and the Transputer all had that problem. However, enough PS3 machines are deployed that the effort is being expended to hammer through that problem.

It may not matter, though. The idea was supposed to be that the Cell processor would result in a cheaper machine than the competition's. That didn't work out.

Re:Pre-emptive PS3 defence (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384764)

No, I don't want a Cell processor, but thanks for asking.

We'll again point to Chris Hecker's take on the cell processor: http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/2005/03/ burn_the_house_.html [typepad.com]

in short. It sucks for good games. More innovative would have been a console including a multicore/processor machine that had different types of processors for doing different things on. The PS3s processor is handicapped for AI, and since no one wants one, you won't find anyone online to play with it.

Its like putting rubber boots on Asafa Powell. Sure, he's set for rain, but what happens if he has to run a race?

Playstation 3? (2, Insightful)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383926)

Can someone explain to me exactly what is innovative about this? I do not understand how a hardware upgrade is innovative. Can I get on this list since I put a new video card in my machine this year?

Re:Playstation 3? (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383966)

It has lots of features (like the 3DO had), but it's a great deal? (if you're in the market for a Blu-ray player...) Although the motion control was tacked on in response to the Wii, and the networking support was a not-spectacular attempt at matching the 360's, a few of the subsystems are thought to be better than its peers?

Re:Playstation 3? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384360)

This is not a question? I'm putting question marks at the ends of all my sentences for no reason? It's really annoying?

No Xbox live? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384028)

PS3 what, tacked on some response to the Wii on the controller and put in fast hardware? Oh, and Sony is trying to use it to push their betamax format. Yeah, I'm not seeing the "innovation" there.

Xbox Live is much more innovative than the PS3. They made online console gaming match if not surpass it on the PC in quality, an area that used to be a weak point for them.

Re:Playstation 3? (1)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384478)

It's got a cell processor [wikipedia.org] , and it's a video game system. Do you think that there are a lot of other video game systems with a processor that complicated? For that matter, there aren't a lot of general purpose computers with that kind of power.

While I really hope that it isn't successful (mostly because I want the video game designers driving the video game industry, not the hardware designers), I can't argue that it's a new kind of thing.

Unlike nearly everything else on that list.

YouOS (5, Insightful)

daigu (111684) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383928)

Anything in alpha testing can't really be called a product, much less the most innovative product (or in the top ten) of the year.

Google Sketchup? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17383970)

I'm surprised this made the "Innovative" list, and not the "Vaporware" list.

Since Google bought them, all they've done to the actual app is stamp "BETA" on it. They brag that it works on Macs, but the last upgrade was over 18 months ago, before Apple announced the Intel transition, and they still have no Universal binary for Macs. The PPC binary works, mostly, if you're willing to put up with workarounds. Oh, and random crashes.

It's a sad state of affairs when "making no forward progress" counts as "innovative" these days.

A Hard Drive? (1, Redundant)

acvh (120205) | more than 7 years ago | (#17383972)

wow, a new hard drive that's bigger than last year's model. Innovation is dripping off of this one.

I assume others will speak to the inclusion of Office.

Re:A Hard Drive? (2, Insightful)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384126)

I assume others will speak to the inclusion of Office.

Not as many as I would expect by now.

My initial thought was also "MS OFFICE?!? INNOVATIVE?!?" (see username...).

Personally, I would define "innovative" in this context as "things customers probably wouldn't have thought of, but once they saw it, they liked," and limit it to those products/changes that were introduced in 2006.

When I actually RTFA, MSO 2k7 is actually fairly innovative, in comparison to most of the rest on the list.

Skimming over the list, the only other "innovative" entry is the Wii. Everything else is either of the "$PRODUCT+CLOCK RADIO" variety, or is just an old product, but bigger, stronger, faster, and/or slightly less distasteful (i.e. the e-book reader), essentially failing the definition. Google Sketchup is a tossup, as someone noted it hasn't changed in 2006, it just became known.

The ribbon feature and the live preview of MSO seem minimally "innovative" (I haven't used them), and if I had to rate these 20 items on their innovativeness, I would probably put the Wii as #1, MSO2K7 as #2, and everything else as tied for #20 (sic).

- RG>

I believe... (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384236)

I believe that the 750 gig drives were considered innovative because the 750 gig drive were the first to 'get perpendicular' [hitachigst.com] .

These guys are confused. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384000)

Even if PC World is too clueless to realise it, there is a difference between "innovative" and "better than the same thing was last year, due to incremental advances". Core 2 Duo: Good? Hell yeah. Innovative? Not exactly.

750GB HDD: A nice upgrade from the 500GB ones? Sure. An innovation? Well, the number is bigger than it was last year.

That logitech control puck thing: Cute? Sure. Innovative? Well, it has a few more buttons than the Griffin PowerMate that has been around for years.

And so on and so forth. There are almost no actual innovations. Mostly just feature bumps and price/performance increases. Now, that is what makes the world go round, most of the time; but don't call it "innovation".

Re:These guys are confused. (1)

reset_button (903303) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384240)

750GB HDD: A nice upgrade from the 500GB ones? Sure. An innovation? Well, the number is bigger than it was last year.
A 750GB hard disk sounds great...I can just see myself staring at the console for weeks waiting for fsck to finish! I'd personally rather see these disks get more reliable than bigger. I'd rather RAID0 some smaller disks for more storage, than RAID5 some larger ones for more reliability - exchanging bad disks is a pain.

There is no innovation any more! (1)

BroncoInCalifornia (605476) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384266)

From this article, I conclude the computer and electronic revolution has run it's course. We are not getting much innovation anymore. We are just getting incremental improvements on the innovations from years past.

Re:These guys are confused. (1)

kevlarcowboy (996973) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384344)

The 750GB hard drive had perpendicular recording. The "upgrade" from the 500GB Seagate drive did require a significant technological innovation.

mod do3n (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384014)

Can no longer be work that you on baby...don'St worse and worse. As WE'LL BE ABLE TO backward and said the channel to sign that *BSD is you join today! Usenet is roughly

WOOOOOOO (2, Insightful)

Diordna (815458) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384018)

A bad upgrade to a ubiquitous software package, a chip, 2 game systems, 2 hard drives, 2 phones... Now I remember why I don't read PC World.

eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384034)

i walked into PC WORLD today with £350 in my wallet, stayed long enough to see what inovative goodies they did not have then went to the pub to consume some real inovation

Is it me, or... (2, Insightful)

mind21_98 (18647) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384040)

...do none of those products really strike me as "innovative"? Maybe I'm just missing the old days when innovation meant a complete change from the norm. However, the Wii is pretty neat. :)

How many laptops did it take? (5, Funny)

atari2600 (545988) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384044)

So for MS Office 2k7 to make the number one position, i wonder how many LAPTOPS [slashdot.org] Microsoft had to give away. Just kidding, just kidding - i couldn't resist.

Where's the Zune? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384070)

Where's the Zune man? I'm listening to some tunes right now. Oh shit! this is my third play NOOOOOOOOOOOOO *squirt*

Please perfect the innovations we already have. (5, Interesting)

gelfling (6534) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384122)

Frankly I'm disappointed that the gadgets we already have really don't work so hot. Like Cell Phones. Why can't I get usable USB or Bluetooth drivers and sync software for my Samsung A640, even from Samsung? Oh yeah I forgot, Sprint wants me to pay for a service to email them to myself. Ditto my Sanyo 3100, Samsung A840, Samsung A900 or Sanyo 8400?

Why does my Xbox360 still require bizarre router settings to connect wirelessly to my router? Oh yeah I forgot, Microsoft does not care. Why did I have to return 3 different routers until I found one that worked with all my clients and VPN tunnels? Oh yeah I forgot, they're lazy. Why did the wireless print server I picked up naturally assume that it had to have the same IP address as my router and afforded absolutely no options to switch it? Oh yeah I forgot, the vendor bought the product instead of developing themselves. Plus the quality of their firmware is shit. Why am I still shopping for an affordable NAS that actually does what it's supposed to do without bugs and the feature set is actually what they say it is instead of vague promises and bullshit? Oh yeah I forgot, all the goodness is in the next version of their $700 unit. Sorry.

See I'm not a big fan of best new gadgets because next year either they will be abandoned as the shit they probably are, or, they will be shit anyway and still be around bolstered by hype, consumer indifference and marketing.

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (1)

Mortirer (885969) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384336)

the A900 does have mass storage option under tools that turn it into a flash drive. You can view power points, PDF, word files and all sorts of stuff with the file viewer.

which NAS unit are you referring to? (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384410)

Why am I still shopping for an affordable NAS that actually does what it's supposed to do without bugs and the feature set is actually what they say it is instead of vague promises and bullshit? Oh yeah I forgot, all the goodness is in the next version of their $700 unit.

Which unit are you talking about, out of curiosity? I've been eying the ReadyNAS NV+ and the Thecus N5200.

I've seen benchmarks showing performance is all over the map with the ReadyNAS, and I know that it painfully slow with fsck's (a client bought a unit and put 4 500GB drives in. An fsck after he had loaded it less than a tenth full, takes an HOUR...) However, it seems much more polished than the Thecus- which has a much faster/better processor, dual ethernet, and five bays instead of four. I've also seen a lot of bug reports and complaints about odd behavior in the infrant forums, and apparently Infrant is also systematically purging any discussion of enabling ssh on the ReadyNAS. That's not cool (nor is the fact that they encrypt their firmware, and act like their raid "technology" is really advanced. It isn't. Don't be fooled: it is a SPARC processor, running LINUX, and lvm stuff. "RAIDX" isn't even remotely proprietary or worthy of a patent.)

It's so annoying that I am highly tempted to build my own box; $600-700 comes damn close to buying some damn nice commodity hardware I could run something like FreeNAS on, or maybe Solaris with ZFS. The big problem with ZFS is that it (shockingly) doesn't allow you to migrate at all from one kind of pool to another. For example- if you set up two drives with ZFS (mirrored) and then later add a third and go striped- forget it. No can do. That alone makes ZFS laughably useless. There is a lot of other cool technology under the hood of ZFS, but it lacks in basic practical areas.

I was also slightly less than impressed that Sun has been shipping Solaris with a huge bug that keeps you from activating the installation until you change the locale; the system spins its wheels for several minutes before finally rejecting your Sun Online account. They've known about the issue for months. Have they bothered to fix the one file on the CD image? No. Issued errata? No. Put a warning on the download page? No. I had to go hunting through their support forums to find a 20+ page back-and-forth between Solaris users and a hapless tech where he FINALLY hits on the solution that works...

Re:which NAS unit are you referring to? (1)

gelfling (6534) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384572)

Synology 106j or e units. They all have haphazard feature sets and do some things well and others poorly. Also after you figure out how to get most of the features running you discover that the onboard fan is so poor that you're bound to burn out your brand new SATA drive. You have to go all the way up to the 406 series to find a complete set of features that work plus environmentals that function. Which puts me where you alluded - to just building my own inside a PC. Ergo it's no longer quiet, compact or unobstrusive. And when all is said and done, the real limiting factor is the cheap-o 100mbit ethernet adapter in lieu of a gigabit network.

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384486)

Why does my Xbox360 still require bizarre router settings to connect wirelessly to my router? Oh yeah I forgot, Microsoft does not care.

"Bizarre router settings"? Like what, turning on UPnP? Oh noes, GRC [grc.com] says the interweb will hax0r my b0x0r if I use UPnP! Never mind that routers enable it only on the internal interface ...

What would you prefer Microsoft to do? Tell all of the NAT users out there that they're SOL for playing games if they don't want to forward ports manually? They had a problem, namely allowing NATed users to directly connect to peers, and they solved it with the correct solution, namely using UPnP to dynamically request port forwarding on an as-needed basis. I'm sorry that the routers you bought (which, BTW, probably weren't from the list of routers supported directly by Microsoft [xbox.com] , and if they were then why didn't you try calling 1-800-4-MY-XBOX?) suck so much. Next time, do your research. Hell, it's easy enough to get UPnP working flawlessly on a linux server acting as a router. I've been doing it [daishar.com] for over two years now (obviously with my original Xbox, since the 360's only been out for just over a year). While I'm running wired now, when I wrote that entry I was using wireless. In fact, I've never had a problem with my Xbox or Xbox 360 recognizing my wireless AP. The only problem I've ever had was with NAT, and that was completely solved with the UPnP daemon.

Until the whole world moves to IPv6, you're going to run into issues like this more and more often. You can take the Nintendo approach and force users to forward ports by hand (seriously, that's what you have to do with the Wii -- it's a good thing there are no multiplayer online games yet), or you can use technology that was designed to solve this problem (among others, of course) -- UPnP.

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (1)

gelfling (6534) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384548)

uPnP OFF plus two TCP/UDP ports forwarded plus MTU adjustments.

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384644)

uPnP OFF plus two TCP/UDP ports forwarded plus MTU adjustments.

With UPnP on you wouldn't need to forward any ports. I never had to adjust MTU, but I can see how that could be an issue.

Maybe your router had a bad UPnP implementation?

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (1)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384494)

I bought a 360 wireless adapter the other day, for using it on a friends unprotected wireless network. I plugged it in via usb, attached it to the unit and powered it on. I was immediately connected and playing CoD3 before I knew it. Didn't even have to go to the dashboard...

Re:Please perfect the innovations we already have. (0)

aero2600-5 (797736) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384622)

Wow.. That is one disgruntled motherfucker!

But.. You can't argue with him. He's right.

Aero

Parallels? (2, Funny)

WMD_88 (843388) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384208)

Why is Parallels Desktop on there? I've seen it - it's almost a complete rip-off of the VMware UI. There is nothing new in that program at all...except that it runs on Intel Macs. Oh boy!

think before (2, Insightful)

towsonu2003 (928663) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384232)

accepting a submission. maybe then, you can see that it's full of crap (i.e. it has much more advertisement than quality content).

Re:think before (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384562)

You forget what time of year this is. It's the holiday season, and a lot of staff are on vacation. So these editors and writers that are left to 'hold the fort' have to come up with lists (hey, it's the year ender) of 20 best or 20 worst. It's called lazy journalism. Other rags have 'The Year in Pictures' or 'Technical Achievements in Pictures'. These are the guys that didn't get the laptop [slashdot.org] and have to think of things like these instead of writing a glorious thumbs up review of the Suite you love to hate.

Olympus E-330 like the Panasonic DMC-L1 (2, Informative)

kherr (602366) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384256)

While the features of the Olympus E-330 are new for a digital SLR (live view and electronic dust cleaner) , Panasonic's DMC-L1 has the same features described as #14 most innovative product. This isn't surprising at all, since Panasonic and Olympus share technology, including the Four Thirds lens mount. In fact, it would have been better to list Four Thirds instead of a specific camera, since it's a cross-platform lens system specifically for digital cameras.

Big flash drives (4, Insightful)

NineNine (235196) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384262)

This is gonna be the next big thing in all kinds of PC's. Flash drives. We'll be able to say bye-bye to the last of the important moving parts in a PC, that happens to be the most defect prone (because of moving parts), and also the most important (assuming your data is worth more than your hardware). I've been wanting these for years for reliability reasons at work. I can't wait until these things get shoved in a vanilla IDE (or is it SATA these days?) format. Hard drives with platters will be completely extinct in 5 years.

Innovative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384270)

Huh? These things aren't innovative, they're mostly just obvious extensions of existing products that merely incrementally improve on the defects of their predecessors. "Innovation" implies a new idea. For example, the Wii's controller is innovative -- they got that one right. A cellular phone with a less awful interface isn't innovative (although at times it feels it would be a new idea). A larger hard drive isn't innovative. A faster CPU isn't innovative. I had a radio that could record things back in 1985 and a writable optical drive in 1996. Guess what? Each game system is faster and fancier than the previous.

Instead of a list of innovative products, it reads more like a list of products the PC World editors likes the most, or maybe a list of products the manufacturers of which paid the most in advertising.

I want to see a list of products that point in new directions, even if they're not the ones that finally become hits. I want to see the products that redefine how things should work. The Xerox Alto was innovative. Visicalc was innovative. The microwave oven was innovative. Nylon was innovative. The scroll wheel was innovative. the blue LED was innovative. The ball point pen was innovative. The zipper was innovative. The Bessemer process was innovative. The Post It note was innovative. Satellite radio can be counted as innovative. The divided freeway was innovative. The display in the OLPC computer is innovative. And so on...

In personal computing, innovation is largely dead.

PCW has a duality problem? (1)

Movi (1005625) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384314)

Well not only it's news to me, it's also news to these guys that apparently work over there:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128265-page,4-c, industrynews/article.html [pcworld.com] (go to #8).

Also, I'm somewhat reluctant to treat PS3 as "Innovative".. well, maybe except the Massive Crab Damage...

I felt a distrubance... (2, Insightful)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384358)

I felt a disturbance in the Slash, as if a bunch of geeks said, "What the F&*K, Microsoft Office?"

Intel Core 2 Duo on the list (1)

mqatrombone (306870) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384424)

Honestly, the Intel Core 2 Duo isn't what really should be on the list. The Intel Core Microarchitecture (Core 2 being the desktop brand) should be. The number of improvements that they made to the P6 architecture and the design choices have actually made it into a pretty innovative processor. Granted, its not omg shiny like the cell processor, but it is a significant step forward for an x86 processor.

Hybrid hard drives require Vista? (1)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384452)

Hybrid hard drives: These drives, coming from companies such as Samsung and Seagate, will combine a flash-memory component with traditional platters to boost performance while keeping costs lower than those of purely flash-based drives. The drives should especially improve startup and resume times. They should also save you some time when it comes to data access, since they can cache more of the data in the flash portion, cutting down on lags due to accessing the disk platters. You'll need Windows Vista to make this work, however.

That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Linux and BSD will be completely incapable of handling hybrid hard drives.

utter bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384462)

Though I am glad BB Pearl made to the list, its full of utter bullshit:
From TFA : "Caveats: The unit lacks a full QWERTY keyboard, and its trackball navigation and compact keys can be awkward."

The intelligent keyboard and the trackball are the hightlight of this device. Looks like they just had to complete a para with pros and some cons.

PS3? (1)

DeadboltX (751907) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384504)

I fail to see how the PS3 can be considered innovative by any means. All of the technologies that go into the PS3 have all been seen before and it is not at all as impressive or original that they packed it all into 1 box as the article would lead you to believe. How is a PS3 anything but a single purpose computer?
It is no more impressive or innovative than adding an FM tuner to a portable MP3 player.

Should be Called (0, Redundant)

YetAnotherBob (988800) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384566)

Most Advertized new products.

Irony (1)

hellfire (86129) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384570)

Ironic that I have to hit next fifty bazillion times to see the whole article, and each time I hit next an ad for Sony/Dell/Intel/Microsoft. I got the Sony add a lot too, but then again I see forty bazillion sony products on this list, none of which match the definition of innovative. Well, maybe the marketer's definition of innovative, but not in the real world.

Where is the "innovation"? (5, Informative)

Helldesk Hound (981604) | more than 7 years ago | (#17384638)

Lets look at this list...

1. Microsoft Office 2007
Nothing innovative here - GUI office productivity suites have been around for decades - MS Word was the innovation on the Apple MacIntosh - but that was before MS released a usable version of MS Windows!

2. Intel Core 2 Duo
Where is the innovation here? The Intel Core 2 Duo is merely two CPUs on a single chip. Duo is neither the first 64bit processor, nor does it share resources between cores, nor does it have an onboard RAM controller. for all the above look to AMD's CPUs.

3. Parallels Desktop for Mac
Running Windows software on the Mac is not a new thing - especially now that the Mac is being sold using Intel hardware. Neither is using virtualisation software to run Windows on other platforms. For years it has been possible to run Windows on Big Blue's mainframes, and on *nix using such applications as VMware.

4. Nintendo Wii
Truly innovative interface - completely new design for use in a completely new way with a completely different range of games.

5. Samsung 32GB SSD
Using Flash EPROM for mobile storage of user data is not new. Neither is the incrementing of the maximum size available. What is new is the replacement of a mechanical permanent storage device with a solid state storage device that may yet prove to be not yet as reliable as a HDD.

6. Sony Reader
Truly innovative device that enables electronic texts to be read as easily and as casually if they were a proper book, and with a very easy UI. Only problem is that it uses a proprietary file format.

7. YouOS
Using a browser for remote desktop access is not a new development.

8. Dell XPS M2010
Portable computers have been around for decades (predating even the Mac). Wireless keyboards are not new, nor is a DVD player, nor is a 20" flat screen. Nothing new there - except the hefty weight.

9. Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 750GB
Yes - innovative method of writing data onto a HDD. But the fact of increased storage capacity is nothing new. HDDs have been increasing storage capacity for many decades.

10. T-Mobile Dash
QWERTY keyboard not new. 1.3 megapixel camera - not new. Wireless - not new.
Additional RAM storage - not new (but close). Amount of built in RAM - definitely not innovative.

11. Pioneer Inno
In one form or another a "Real Live radio receiver" that can also record onto some sort of storage medium has been around since the '70s.

13. Sony BWU-100A Blu-Ray Disc Rewritable Drive
Re-writeable optical discs - nothing new here.

14. Olympus EVolt E-330
Digital camera with LCD display - definitely nothing new here.

15. Google SketchUp
3D software is not new. Free (as in Libre or as in Beer) is also not new. Perhaps the ease of use is what is new.

16. Sony PlayStation 3
Games consoles have been around since the '70s.

17. RIM BlackBerry Pearl 8100
Two words... Palm Treo. Enough said.

18. Rhapsody 4.0
One word... Ipod.

19. Logitech NuLooq
Different. Cross between a joystick and a mouse and a rollerball. I wouldn't mind trying it out if I ever came across one in a shop.

20. Shure E500PTH Sound Isolating Earphones
Noice cancelling headsets have been around for years. Nothing new there.

So where is the true innovation? 19, 15, 9, 6, 4. That's only 5 out of 20.

OK, I read the full list, and.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17384752)

...the number one overwhelming feature they all had in common is..if none of them existed, society wouldn't miss a one of them. Not a one. More or less useless junk with blinkenlights. I was expecting some unusual and interesting things, I was honestly interested to see something cool and WTF??? There aren't any on that list really. There isn't a single thing on that list that is even remotely important or vital for society, and only one of them can qualify as half way "new", and that is that unusual I/O device, which at least shows some sort of forward thinking. And only half way at that. The rest are different brands and models and styles of...of shoes, that's all. About as exciting and innovative as new shoes. Ya, shoes are cool and necessary as footware...but nothing to get too excited about either. Wow, a word processor...how quaint, the concept might catch on. Ooh, look, a "game" console or six....how very unsuusal never seen those things before. Aha, a pda with a big screen that you can read text from! uh huh.....a small form factor computer with a flatscreen and a briefcase handle...supposedly for more children's games...how very..important? And look, cellphones! Now with even more impressive prices..so you can talk to the same people you are already talking to....

We need a one year consumer strike, just cease buying new versions of the same old throw away gadget crap. Just based on this list that is my new year's resolution, one year, no consumer gadget crap. I'll hang on to the crap they already faked me out of my money for previously for a spell instead.
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  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>