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Apple and Google to Blog the World

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the look-where-i-am-ma dept.

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Zrop writes "AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has been working on OS-level integration of an geographical mapping technology as an integral part of Leopard, its next-generation OS. The technology is rumoured to employ GPS functionality. Will GPS chips make Apple iPod phones and MacBooks location aware? Users would be able to post information at a location, hanging in the air, ready to be browsed by people passing by. Imagine getting highly relevant messages, without even pressing a button, simply because you are in the vicinity and your preferences match the content of the post."

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Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492318)

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Re:Jewish pedophiles delete GNAA article fromWikip (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492466)

More proof Wikipedia is a goddamn waste of everyone's time.

You mean... (5, Insightful)

blike (716795) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492326)

Imagine getting highly relevant messages, without even pressing a button, simply because you are in the vicinity and your preferences match the content of the post."
You mean "Imagine getting highly relevant advertisements..."

You mean...Flipflops aren't just shoes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492458)

Today we blame the technology. Tomorrow we blame the person.

WHO CARES what Apple intends to use it for... (5, Interesting)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492462)

...if this is anything like the "sudden motion sensor," it's really exciting because of all the cool stuff third parties will do with it. For example, off the top of my head I can think of a few things that I'd like to see implemented: automatically switching the "location" (which is used for determining network settings) according to the actual GPS location, linking iCal events to locations so that I can get reminders when I'm in the right place, etc.

Re:WHO CARES what Apple intends to use it for... (2, Interesting)

kennygraham (894697) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493088)

linking iCal events to locations so that I can get reminders when I'm in the right place, etc.

and iCal keeping track of what time zone you're in while you travel would be very welcome

Re:You mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492820)

And a stalker's dream tool. "Hot chick at location X... believe she is single, heading for home now..."

Re:You mean... (2, Funny)

Fungii (153063) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492824)

Exactly what i thought.

Still though, more relevant ads are probably a good thing.

Re:You mean... (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493252)

Still though, more relevant ads are probably a good thing

I've got a better idea. How about NO ads, relevant or otherwise?

There are already enough ads in the world ... heck, people are walking brand advertisements. Enough already ...

Re:You mean... (1)

Elminst (53259) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493444)

Precisely the reason I tagged this story with "minorityreport."
*Bing!* "You've got ads!"

I can graphiti the WORLD! (2, Funny)

mrmeval (662166) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492338)

Muh ha ha ha

"integration" or "bundling"? (2, Insightful)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492358)

AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has been working on OS-level integration of an geographical mapping technology as an integral part of Leopard, its next-generation OS.

Why is it that when apple does this kind of thing it's somehow "cool", but when Microsoft does it, it's somehow "evil"?

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (-1, Flamebait)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492390)

Let's not forget that you will probably need to get a OS upgrade to get it ontop of that.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

Yahweh Doesn't Exist (906833) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492484)

what part of "AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has been working on OS-level integration of an geographical mapping technology as an integral part of Leopard, its next-generation OS" didn't already make your point?

oh I see, you're just trying to repeat the FUD about Apple forcing its users (at gunpoint) to buy teh new OSs every month for $1299.9999!!!11 each time omg wtf!

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492528)

oh I see, you're just trying to repeat the FUD about Apple forcing its users (at gunpoint) to buy teh new OSs every month for $1299.9999!!!11 each time omg wtf!
Pretty much.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (4, Insightful)

brass1 (30288) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492536)

Why is it that when apple does this kind of thing it's somehow "cool", but when Microsoft does it, it's somehow "evil"?

Because when Apple does it, it becomes a well documented [apple.com] , open [webkit.org] API. Microsoft? Not so much [microsoft.com] .

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492876)

Yes an open API Web kit for browser that has 5% of the market. So very open of them! And here I thought Apple was known for its closed system. So silly of me! Hey could go ahead and link to the open API for the iTunes store, DRM and iPod combo? You know, the thing they actually make money on? Missed it somehow. That'd be great. Thanks.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492886)

So in order to prove apple is open you link to, errr, developer tools. Tools which Microsoft produce and document like, err, the .NET Framework. Nice straw man.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17493400)

Apple has really awful documentation and is not really open, BTW.

Want a good example? Compare the documentation for OS X and Windows on the same equivalent subject:
http://www.google.com/search?q=exception.port+site :developer.apple.com [google.com]
http://www.google.com/search?q=vectored.exception. handler+site:msdn.microsoft.com [google.com]

One has a two line blurb, the other has a full article and API documentation.

As for openness, well, they only use standards when they're useful to them. They have a half-assed implementation of the MPEG standard, for example. They also use proprietary connectors, such as ADC(now dead) and mini-DVI.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492558)

Why is it that when apple does this kind of thing it's somehow "cool", but when Microsoft does it, it's somehow "evil"?

It is? Who said that?

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

Beebos (564067) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492834)

One reason is because Apple only has, what, 4-8% of the PC market. Microsoft has, what, 90%? You have to dominate a market in order to be a monopoly. That was your concern, no?

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492872)

who said "monopoly"? not the parent poster.

Google has a monopoly on search, and nobody uses the word "evil" to describe what they do.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

Poltras (680608) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493264)

pssst, "google is not evil", remember? mmmmmh...?

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492890)

MS: Bundling a web browser and media player: bad.

Apple: Bundling a (GPS?!) system: good.

I can't see how this could possibly be a good thing. It would demolish any hopes of privacy any Apple user may have, and it's bundling in a feature to the OS that is completely unrelated to common tasks.

Apple: Where the customers eat shit and like it.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (2, Funny)

NoMaster (142776) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493042)

Apple: Where the customers eat shit and like it.

Linux: Where the customers eat shit, and get told "Submit a patch or run back to Micro$uck$ Windoze, n00b!"

(Disclaimer: I'm a Mac user. And a Windows user. And a Linux user, and an OpenBSD user, and ...)

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493230)

I could have swore my MacBook didn't have a GPS system in it.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (2, Informative)

mccoma (64578) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493262)

I never thought the browser or media player were the bad thing, might as well argue the included TCP/IP stack. Life moves on and essential grows. It was the inability to remove those items and having to pay for Windows even if I wasn't going to use it that got me.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17493664)

Dude, did Steve Jobs run over your dog or something?

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (4, Insightful)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493076)

Because Apple doesn't have an OS monopoly.

Since when did Apple sign illegal OEM deals that forced OEMs to not ship competing products to prevent them from entering the market?

Next.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (2)

ZombieRoboNinja (905329) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493540)

1. When Apple does it, they're not leveraging a monopoly, because they don't have one.

2. The last time anyone cared about Microsoft bundling anything, Windows 95 was new and the Earth was a rapidly-cooling ball of magma.

Re:"integration" or "bundling"? (3, Insightful)

Benzido (959767) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493600)

There is a long, boring answer to this which involves Microsoft's past and present sales and PR tactics. This is the answer most slashdotters would give.

A more interesting answer is, 'because their software sucks'. If Microsoft's software was better, they would have some fans, and on social websites like this one there wouldn't be such a strong prevailing dislike of them.

Obviously apple also engages in evil business ethics. But because they have fans, they can get away with it a bit more. Microsoft has, as far as I can tell, no fans. I am a long-time PC owners, and I don't give a toss about the monopolistic and unethical behaviour of either company, but I couldn't look you in the eye and say that Microsoft ships really good products. This is why I don't spring to their defense if some Mac or Linux fan calls them 'evil'.

I can just imagine the nasty surprises. (3, Funny)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492362)

"You're not standing in a puddle of water."

Old idea with a new spin (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492368)

I heard ideas like this a long time ago, only then it was using cellphones.

I think if Apple releases a cell phone (iPhone), it, and the next gen iPods are much more likely to be of use for geographically targetted advertisements (airtisements?) than a macbook. Anyone walking around with an open macbook will have thier own issues to worry about.

Re:Old idea with a new spin (1)

Tragek (772040) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492864)

The problem with the cellphone ideas was that what actual content on a cellphone actually needed to be location based, with the exception perhaps of advertisements? And who really wants to voluntarily expose themselves to more ads. With regards to your comment on ads on the ipod/iphone, I don't think apple would go for that. Who is Apple a close enough friend with the let them advertise on their bread and butter? I like the idea of this, personally, for one reason alone: Location based scripts. As of now, OS X already has location functionality built in for networking, and a couple of other things. This is fine and dandy for me, except I need to change more things when I move from location to location than the locations allow. Also, I run into trouble if I forget to change my settings. So, better: Why not let my laptop do it using it's nifty little GPS reciever, and choose my settings, how I like them, based on where I am. Of course, since I have an older Mac Laptop, I don't see any way for me to easily get in on the GPS trend, so not only will Leopard be a selling point in and of itself, it will also be advertising the crap of of the also announced Laptops with their GPS units embedded.

Re:Old idea with a new spin (1)

LokiSnake (795582) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493394)

Anyone walking around with an open macbook will have thier own issues to worry about.

Or do you mean sitting on the toilet with an open MacBook...

Will this "feature" have an off button? (1, Insightful)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492376)

I remember when the Pentium III came out, and everybody freaked out because it had built-in serial number identification that were supposed to destroy your privacy. Now "They" will know where you are, but since it's Apple, slashdot puts a nice happy spin on it. Do they make tinfoil iPod cases?

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (2, Funny)

carpe_noctem (457178) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492576)

Do they make tinfoil iPod cases?

They did, but people complained that they scratched too easily.

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (4, Insightful)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492646)

I remember when the Pentium III came out, and everybody freaked out because it had built-in serial number identification that were supposed to destroy your privacy.

I don't remember everybody freaking out. That would surely make the world news, and lead to civil chaos, if the entire population of the planet started "freaking out." I don't remember anybody freaking out, actually. A few people raised some privacy concerns, yes. Not the same thing as everybody freaking out.

Now "They" will know where you are, but since it's Apple, slashdot puts a nice happy spin on it.

Actually, the majority of the posts so far are talking about ways this could be abused, and a sprinkling of "Apple is teh suck" posts. I haven't yet seen anyone on slashdot say it is "cool" or put a happy spin on it.

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (1)

omeomi (675045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493168)

I haven't yet seen anyone on slashdot say it is "cool" or put a happy spin on it.

I think it has the potential to be cool. Imagine if you could leave comments on the world just like you do on /. or any other forum. Advertising would be a problem, yes, but that's where user-based moderation would come in. If somebody placed an advert, anybody who came along to it would have the opportunity to vote it down. Funny or insiteful comments would get moderated up. I really think that would be cool.

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493270)

Sure, there's potential coolness. My point is that, contrary to the GP's post - slashdot has not been fawning over this idea, just because it's from Apple. And it has no relation to past controversies over privacy in Pentium chips, etc. Maybe it has privacy or security implications. If so, then let's discuss those rationally.

It seems much more common for people to whine about slashdot bias whenever an Apple story is posted, than it is for people to uncritically praise everything Apple does. Not to mention that times have changed a lot. Very few people call Microsoft "evil" these days, even on slashdot. It's more likely that they get accused of being boring, or just fail to raise any interest.

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (3, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492802)

Cars with OnStar and every cell phone made in the past 5 years (if not longer) already have the ability to be tracked. If someone especially desired it, your computer could also be located (to a lesser degree of accuracy).

If "the man" wanted to know where you were at any given time, it's not like it was hard before. The serial number 'scare' (if you can really call it that) was different because it reported information unrelated to any communication purpose. With wireless devices of any kind, you're already broadcasting your location by using it (even just having it turned on), so it's really a non-issue. Why not provide the option of doing something with it?

The difference between Microsoft and just about anyone else (including Apple) is that Microsoft would turn it on by default without any real security concerns, and it would "integrate" with a soldering iron. Take Media Center for instance--if you choose "satellite" in the setup, you CAN'T continue if it doesn't detect an MCE-compatible IR receiver (even if you don't want to use it). You also can't cheat by calling your connection "cable" and then choosing a satellite lineup. Microsoft is too smart for that. With this, it's like texting to a bulletin board (the cork-and-pin variety). You can put something up there that might be helpful to someone else--but you aren't obligated to post anything, nor are you obligated to read any of it.

Re:Will this "feature" have an off button? (3, Insightful)

pyr3 (678354) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493066)

Reading the article (btw, why was it linked to twice in the summary?), it seems to me to just be an opinion piece based on rumors and a single patent application. The patent application itself sounds more like it describes the rumored 'iPhone,' which would make GPS functionality not that out of place seeing as many cellphones on the market now employ GPS technology. As far as the OS-level integration, it seems more like adding GPS and/or map support to the OS is what Apple is interested in. More like iMap, with an API for other 3rd party apps to access it. There is nothing anywhere that there are going to be GPS chips in the computers or ipods. There are just people speculating. It seems to me that it's more likely that it will have support for 3rd party GPS devices. I know that the default on slashdot is tinfoil-ism, but sometimes you have to be a little more realistic than getting your panties in a twist over wild speculation.

Let me guess (2, Funny)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492380)

"Here I sit all broken hearted
I tried to..."

You know the rest.

Re:Let me guess (1)

zigziggityzoo (915650) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493310)

Actually, no I don't.

Re:Let me guess (1)

silentounce (1004459) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493524)

Probably the most common bathroom stall graffiti ever. Here I sit all broken hearted. I tried to shit and only farted.

It's interesting that you didn't know it, are you female? Maybe it's not as prevalent in women's bathrooms.

Finally. (4, Funny)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492418)

Neat, a way for me to tell passers-by, "Bob Johnson sucks ****," without the hassle of finding a bathroom stall and a marker. Heck, now I can let people know right as they're passing Bob's house. He'll be so happy.

Re:Finally. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492476)

Hey man, fuck you!

Bob

Geolocation with WiFi (3, Informative)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492456)

You can do geolocation with WiFi, if you have a large enough database. We have one [wifimaps.com] , and there are others. Here [placelab.org] is a good example of this kind of action. There aren't many applications that deal with location, but as you can imagine, there is a point to location-based blogging, and apparently a need for it. I wasn't successful in building a killer location-based app, but I like to see the other valiant attempts by others.

Hay, I'm looking for a gig too, Apple and Google.

Apple = Good, MS = ? (0)

walrus2517 (74306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492470)

I agree with another poster. If MS had included such functionality in Vista the Slashdot crowd would have been up-in-arms about the privacy implications, but Apple does it and its suddenly a good thing? I know the average Slashdot reader is incredibly biased and hypocritical to MS, but this one is too obvious.

Re:Apple = Good, MS = ? (1)

WaZiX (766733) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492548)

Strangely, most comments i read were quite critical if not negative of this initiative...

Must be a different slashdot "crowd" you're talking about...

Re:Apple = Good, MS = ? (1)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493348)

I believe it was proposed as a possible use for some of the features in WinFS, for example picking up on your location and showing you contacts nearby, files which involve the area etc.

stephansmap.org geared towards this (2, Informative)

sugarmotor (621907) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492478)

The site stephansmap.org is geared towards this. It actually goes beyond: it has time integration.

I developed it. So far needs some more users. So I'm redesigning it.

Stephan

fyi: GPS USB (1)

rjdegraaf (712353) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492504)

GPS Navigation With Your Laptop! http://www.bytefusion.com/products/op/usb-gps/usb- gps.htm [bytefusion.com]


Does anyone know this device works under Linux?
I Love to buy one.

Re:fyi: GPS USB (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492592)

I don't know about you, but what I'd want is a PC-card (or even mini-PCI) version that doesn't stick out, so that I could keep it in the laptop permanently

Re:fyi: GPS USB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492596)

Yes it should, most USB GPSes just appear as serial converters and use the NMEA protocol to talk to applications.

Re:fyi: GPS USB [ SOLVED ] (1)

rjdegraaf (712353) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492640)

Thanks. Yep, found it: Linux GPS [mightygps.com] .

Ummm... (4, Funny)

dangitman (862676) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492524)

How do I type if I'm hanging in the air? And isn't this Mac-user-levitation technology a bigger story than boring old GPS?

Re:Ummm... (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493046)

In related news:
David Blaine joined Apple crew this morning to help keep messages floating in the air.

Kinda Done... (2, Interesting)

Clazzy (958719) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492566)

At least in mobile phones. Some phones (in the UK at least) will automatically display the dialling code for the area you're in. It's a more simplified version but it's a handy feature to have. Of course, this is a more complex version and should hopefully have more beneficial uses.

Imagine... in my local supermarket... (5, Interesting)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492578)

There are ads on the back and on the front inside of the shopping cart. There are ads on the floor that I walk on, while trying to manuever my cart around instrusive stands of featured products placed so as to block the aisle. Hanging off shelves in the aisle are little machines with bright blinking LEDs ready to dispense coupons for products. Flat-panel TV sets with sound hang near the meat section, running a continuous informercial. Another TV set with sound hangs above the cash register in the checkout line, running a different infomercial.

As I check out, the process is interrupted by the cashier asking whether I want to buy their X-Treme Value of the Week, which is stacked near the cash register with an ad on it, and hands me two long slips of paper: a receipt, and a bunch of ads and coupons. These latter are "highly targeted," alright: they are always for competing brands of products I just bought.

Can I "imagine getting highly relevant messages, without even pressing a button, simply because you are in the vicinity and your preferences match the content of the post?"

Yes, I can.

And I know exactly kind of messages they'll be.

And I betcha a nickel those preferences will be opt-out.

Re:Imagine... in my local supermarket... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492758)

>interrupted by the cashier asking whether I want to buy their X-Treme Value of the Week

We obviously shop at the same supermarket chain.

Re:Imagine... in my local supermarket... (1)

Peganthyrus (713645) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493258)

When Ralph's started doing the check-out commercials, I was ultimately thankful to them - because a mere two blocks past my local Ralph's was Trader Joe's. I still went to Ralph's for my Diet Coke habit, but those ads chased me away for all my other shopping, to somewhere generally better and cheaper.

Ads, ads, everywhere. (0)

Animats (122034) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493370)

Mod parent up.

In Vista, Microsoft puts central control from the mothership in Redmond into the OS.
Apple's answer to this: integrate spam into the OS.

Earth to Cupertino: bad idea.

(Idea for an new exploit: write an adware program which randomly injects ad slides into PowerPoint presentations.)

BBS Lession 12,102 (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492584)

and do you remember the quality of the grafitti board on every BBS in the 80's...

I guess as long as you know the worst people will take over this kind of a system... you can still get something useful out of it.

Too complicated for laptops (1)

Baumi (148744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492586)

While this might be a nice geek toy, it wouldn't be practical for everyday use. Picture the scenario: You're in some unknown city, now you have to pull out your MacBook (better hope the battery's charged). After that you can either whip out your phone as well to switch on Bluetooth and get your laptop online via GSM or UMTS, or you've got to find a WLAN hotspot which would only let you look up stuff around that very hotspot. Not a killer app. Not Apple-like at all.

I could see something like this being useful on a PDA or a cell phone (if you've got a data plan), so it might be a feature of the rumored "iPhone". However, looking at the prices for Bluetooth GPS units, I wonder whether the chipsets aren't too expensive to make them a default option.

Re:Too complicated for laptops (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492654)

I could see something like this being useful on a PDA or a cell phone (if you've got a data plan), so it might be a feature of the rumored "iPhone". However, looking at the prices for Bluetooth GPS units, I wonder whether the chipsets aren't too expensive to make them a default option.

You know what I see it useful in? A camera, so that it could automatically add the location to the EXIF data of each photo taken. I would think Google and Apple would be all over that kind of thing, since it would have really cool possibilities for iPhoto and Google Image Search. Too bad neither of them makes cameras...

Re:Too complicated for laptops (1)

Baumi (148744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492742)

You know what I see it useful in? A camera, so that it could automatically add the location to the EXIF data of each photo taken.

Yep, I'd love a GPS-enabled camera, as well. I think Kodak had one on the market a few years ago, but it was an expensive high-end model. Currently, I'm using a Symbian phone + BT GPS unit + phototagging software to achieve the same result, but in-camera GPS would be much appreciated. Still, I think it's a price issue there, too. Anything but Sirf III is pretty much too flaky to use (and even that needs up to a minute to get its bearings), and those chipsets are still expensive.

Re:Too complicated for laptops (2, Insightful)

Gnavpot (708731) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492810)

You know what I see it useful in? A camera, so that it could automatically add the location to the EXIF data of each photo taken. I would think Google and Apple would be all over that kind of thing, since it would have really cool possibilities for iPhoto and Google Image Search. Too bad neither of them makes cameras...

http://www.geospatialexperts.com/ricoh.html [geospatialexperts.com]
http://scilib.typepad.com/science_library_pad/2006 /08/sonys_camera_gp.html [typepad.com]
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg. tcl?msg_id=005bL5 [greenspun.com]

Track me more. (1)

PlusFiveTroll (754249) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492628)

I am going to give my girlfriend one of these so I can stalk her.

a way to track purchases? (1)

pepax (748182) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492632)

Could this lead to tracking purchases to enforce taxes, or prohibit purchases from unauthorized countries (no allofmp3 from outside of Russia)?

GPS + Ipod (4, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492666)

"Sorry, your content is not authorized for consumption in the country which you currently are in"

I like Gmail's targeted adverts (2, Insightful)

EsJay (879629) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492684)

If it's as unobtrusive as Gmail's topical advertising, I think topical+geographic advertising would be OK.

Right... (5, Informative)

gordgekko (574109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492710)

>> Users would be able to post information at a location, hanging in the air, ready to be browsed by people passing by. Imagine getting highly relevant messages, without even pressing a button, simply because you are in the vicinity and your preferences match the content of the post."

Right. This didn't even work when users were able to post information at a web site using invisible notes back in the 1990s. Remember that "revolution"? Users of a web site could discuss its contents with each other using software that interfaced with their web browser. End result? No one posted anything except the occasional juvenile comment.

Now I'm expected to believe that people are going to be walking around with a cellphone and eagerly texting messages and posts that others will be able to read when they enter the area.

Good luck with that.

Re:Right... (1)

Darthmalt (775250) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493078)

Just imagine driving by a highschool or middleschool. You'll be inundated with hooribly speeled sub AOL quality comments.

Re:Right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17493488)


No one posted anything except the occasional juvenile comment.

hehe... boobies.

great (1)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492714)

And if Apple releases a MacThin touch tablet, then the ability to scrawl on the virtual bathroom wall will be that much more realistic.
"For a good time, IM..."

GPS is balls expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17492736)

The Garmin nuvi 660, IMHO that's the GPS to beat with its perfect screen size and resolution (around $700 retail after discounts etc. i believe .. higher MSRP).

Anyway .. The cheapest decent GPS I found with a sirfstarIII chip is around $399 MSRP (Magellan RoadMate 2000).

I have no idea how much a SIRFStarIII chip costs. I'm reckoning that it ain't cheap. Until the cost of that chip (or an equivalent competing one?) drops to $15 I doubt we'll be seeing GPS ubiquitously in devices such as digital cameras, laptops, and mp3 players. I am hoping Intel or AMD buys them .. but then again if maybe if they buy 'em we may see technology improvements go in the shitter.

I think someday even laptops will have GPS, and with boosted satellite signal strengths the chips should be able to function inside buildings.

Me? I am waiting for the price to drop to $400 for the Garmin nuvi 660 .. then I'll be buying it.

Re:GPS is balls expensive (1)

xneubien (628441) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493204)

Its not the GPS chip thats expensive, its the maps that are included with the GPS device. I have GPS in my cheap POS motorola i265 that they gave us at work.

Re:GPS is balls expensive (1)

trimbo (127919) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493224)

That's why there's aGPS. Check out what VZNavigator [verizonwireless.com] can do without ever looking for a satellite.

I guarantee this technology, if it's true, won't use traditional satellite signals for triangulation.

Innovation (2, Interesting)

gorrepati (866378) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492774)

Its been a long time since we have seen a truly innovative feature.. Hail Apple.

Whooo! Hooo! (1)

Zebra_X (13249) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492874)

Damn, this is an awful use technology.

I mean really, first a Trusted Computing chip, now "location awareness" to "fix" the fact that geolocation by IP is inacurate.

The thing is - when you have a platform that has video and location awareness it raises a host of issues including "What happens when this platform gets compromised by theives?"

What a great idea (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#17492944)

Instead of wasting resources on spying on people, get them to spy on themselves. Finding out where the owner of an Ipod lives will soon be as simple as checking where they are the most.

cameras (1)

dingDaShan (818817) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493014)

Why don't cameras have GPS built in? How great would it be to be able to have all pictures geotagged automatically?

Re:cameras (1)

WillerZ (814133) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493126)

There's an add-on for Nikon cameras which adds GPS information to the shots you take.

I want a full-frame DSLR with GPS integration; Canon do the first bit, Nikon do the second, no-one does both.

Re:cameras (1)

goofballs (585077) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493198)

sony's got a little gps receiver (gps-cs1) that will do that, by matching time stamps w/ your photos.

a legitimate use of this (1)

mrcdeckard (810717) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493020)

if someone passing through an area is unfamiliar with that area (as tourist or otherwise), that person could get notes about the immediate local relevant to their interest -- say you're hanging out on the other side of town and want to see if there's any good sushi around. or comic book stores, or whatever.

  would be like local.google does now, except on my phone, and i don't have to type in my location.

mrc

Imagine the Future... (5, Funny)

Aminion (896851) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493032)

... you will hover by a school and be attacked by "LOL U teh gay!!1" messages.

... you wife borrows your nano nuclear powered PDA only to receive the following message as she passes one of the store downtown "Hello again, Mr Smith! We hope you enjoyed Chixx with Dixx 69. May we also suggest: Brazilian Tranny Wars 43?"

... your n00b neighbor has got his box pwned again and it is constantly broadcasting ads for Viagra alcopops and penis pumps with festive Christmas motifs.

so many evil uses.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17493052)

Just imagine using google to search for drunk females feeling lonely and vulnerable within a 20 mile radius

And then the fun of finding your sexy net lady is still a 40 year old homosexual man

a new twist on a DRM classic (1)

aschrock (994050) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493100)

This could be a whole new twist on DVD region codes. "Sorry, your computer is not allowed to operate in the country you are currently in.... turning off..."

the streets will be overrun by /.ers (2, Funny)

Aeron65432 (805385) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493116)

Every street corner will pop up a notification saying, "CowboyNeal WAS HERE," and the obligatory "in SOVIET RUSSIA THE INTERNET MESSAGES YOU."


I, for one, welcome our new GPS-messaging overlords.

Physical location is a meat phenomenon. (2, Insightful)

EWAdams (953502) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493308)

The probability that I would give a rat's ass about the opinions of people who just happen to be in physical proximity to me is vanishingly small. I don't even want to LOOK at the other people on the subway, much less know what they're thinking.

At least on an Internet forum I stand a reasonable chance of meeting people I actually want to talk to, and where they are physically located is irrelevant.

Uhm.. (1)

asCii88 (1017788) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493364)

Imagine getting tons and tons of spam, without even pressing a button, simply because you are in the vicinity and even if your preferences don't match the content of the post.

Clocks (1)

NitsujTPU (19263) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493454)

The clocks in GPS are extremely accurate. Accurate enough to be used in communications protocols without clock sync or worry about too much drift. If I were at Apple and building GPS into all of my computers, my first thought would be using the clock as the system clock and then, how I could exploit the clock.

Apple is unlikely to screw its consumers with a bunch of lame proximity-based advertising.

Mostly annoying? (1)

superbrose (1030148) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493464)

Sounds to me like we'll see the equivalent of Google Earth's community markers adapted to these devices.

Although I like the principle, I really don't like the implementation of community markers as I last saw it. Too often there is a complete jungle of markers making it hard to find relevant ones.

Some community markers contain spam, some are riddled with mistakes and information that is totally wrong. Mostly they can't be trusted, and there are so many simply annoying markers.

Has its drawbacks, but could be useful (2, Insightful)

AlXtreme (223728) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493472)

A location-based wiki (wikipedia, wikitravel) would be pretty neat. Travel to a city, walk around while having access to short descriptions of monuments. Figure out which restaurants are good by walking up to them and reading a few reviews.

Of course, abuse would be just as easy as messing up a wiki page, but that hasn't stopped their popularity either.

I don't see why this would have to be tied into an OS though, and it would make more sense for phones than laptops. Once we have cheap unlimited GPRS/UMTS connections, that is.

Highly Relevant Encryption (1)

bigattichouse (527527) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493562)

Location based encryption based on lat/long and password.... must be standing on Mount Ranier within 50 meters of a specific point. Or as you move through a building, it decrypts and gives you instructions.

Troll! (1)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493668)

"DON'T TURN AROUND! There is a troll behind you. Run to the next corner and turn right. NOW!"

But GPS: (3, Interesting)

RalphSleigh (899929) | more than 7 years ago | (#17493684)

But GPS:

a) Does not work indoors, and there are very few times I would consider using a laptop outside in this climate.

b)Eats battery like nothing else, this might be good for the odd fix now and again when you boot up, but running continously would probably put a bit of a crimp on your battery.
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