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Harrison Ford Turned Down Han Solo Role

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the call-him-doctor-jones dept.

Star Wars Prequels 472

eldavojohn writes "It's being widely reported that Harrison Ford turned down a £20 million deal to play Han Solo once again in a George Lucas spin off of Star Wars. The source of this information seems to be a tabloid called bangshowbiz. Harrison was approached by Lucas with two roles but instead opted for the same amount to play Indiana Jones for the fourth time. Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?"

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Good (5, Insightful)

shrike99 (100287) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568668)

Good for him, at least he knows his limits and marketablity. Now for a few Hundred posts on 'how old he is', and 'he'll sprain his back' or more such silliness.

Re:Good (4, Funny)

Divebus (860563) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568844)

Hey, I'll do it for half that much. Call my cell, George.

Re:Good (5, Funny)

Crash McBang (551190) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569140)

Poser.

The appropriate response is "Have your people call my people".

Re:Good (3, Insightful)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569044)

You realize he does want to play Indiana Jones again, don't you? Indiana Jones is no less youthful or athletic than Han Solo. If he can do one, he can equally well do the other!

Re:Good (4, Insightful)

monoqlith (610041) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569088)

Not to mention Indiana Jones is a much more physically demanding role, assuming the movie isn't just about Dr. Jones becoming a crotchety, washed up academic.

you tell me... (5, Funny)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568670)

Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?

Given that Lucas most likely would have partnered Han with a squadron of Jar Jar's children and a midget in a monkey constume, I think that questions answers itself.

Dont rejoice (2, Insightful)

DavidShor (928926) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568724)

The film will be made, with Ford or without.

Re:Dont rejoice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569108)

Really, if they are going to drag this shit out, they best get new actors. But, damn, with all that money to spend why couldn't they have gotten a better cast (okay, Natalie Portman was good, but that is it) for the prequels? The worst was the guy they got to be Obi-Wan Kenobi's younger self. Not anything about his acting or anything else. Just appearance. This was not Obi-Wan's younger self. You have to squint and pretend you are blind to believe otherwise.

Re:Dont rejoice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569402)

Do you reallly prefer their choice for Anakin over their choice for the younger Obi-Wan? Sure he may not have looked the part, but at least he could act.

Re:you tell me... (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569164)

Lucas most likely would have partnered Han with a squadron of Jar Jar's children and a midget in a monkey constume
While this is an unattractive concept for a Star Wars movie, I would definitely pay to see a movie starring Harrison Ford opposite a midget in a monkey costume.

Re:you tell me... (2, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569180)

Actually, even better, how about a monkey in a midget costume?

Star Wars 7 (4, Funny)

Coucho (1039182) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568678)

Revenge of the damn kid who is always on my lawn!

HAN SHOT FIRST (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568708)

HAN SHOT FIRST

Re:HAN SHOT FIRST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569324)

best meme ever

Re:HAN SHOT FIRST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569374)

I love how this got modded +5, Informative.

Thank god he declined (4, Insightful)

Freaky Spook (811861) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568718)


I don't want to see Han Solo's great character trashed by a bad script and the over-use of special effects.

Lucas helped kill my vision of the star wars universe with the prequals, I will never watch another Star Wars thing he does again.

Re:Thank god he declined (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568890)

It seems to be a trend where the original creators of giantly popular franchise kill them for me later on as well - for instance, JK Rowling did the same with her last Harry Potter book describing the once wonderful characters snogging all the time (rolls eyes).

I wish copyright was shorter just so the creators could have some competition for once for their own creation (in terms of audience following) and making the best thing about it.

Re:Thank god he declined (0)

w33t (978574) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568938)

I don't want to see Han Solo's great character trashed by a bad script and the over-use of special effects.


We're different people, you and me. You see, I'm ok with a bad script and over-use of special effects, if it has Han Solo to enhance it.

Re:Thank god he declined (2, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568954)

I will never watch another Star Wars thing he does again.
I'm going to have to call BS on your oath. When the old Star Wars Christmas Special comes out on DVD, you'll be first in line, guaranteed. ;)

Re:Thank god he declined (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569242)

Are you saying Han had great scripts before?

ARE YOU MAD?

Re:Thank god he declined (5, Funny)

EonBlueTooL (974478) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569260)

I think I speak for all star wars fans when I say "What prequels."

Does it matter? (4, Funny)

RichPowers (998637) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568754)

Lucasfilm would have to apply so many effects to the aging Harrison Ford that they might as well computer generate him from the get-go :P

Would they have to pay to do that? (4, Interesting)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568996)

If they did an entirely CG Han Solo, would they have to pay Harrison Ford anything? I mean it would be "Ford's likeness", but the "Han Character" is what they would be depicting...

Re:Does it matter? (4, Interesting)

Nutty_Irishman (729030) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569040)

This is what they ended up doing for X-Men 3 on Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen for their 20+ year prior shot. It's actually pretty impressive what they were able to accomplish digitally, check it out: http://www.fxguide.com/article357.html [fxguide.com] . A little bit different if you had to do it for an entire movie, but the technology is getting there.

Re:Does it matter? (1)

Neon Crossing (744179) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569386)

Well, this is old news, but they are doing this for a whole movie for the upcoming Magneto movie, if I remember correctly. Fancy, eh?

R2D2 (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568776)

R2D2 turned down the droid role. They are contacting a Jack-in-the-Box garbage can now for the part.

Re:R2D2 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569360)

nah, he's probably been outsourced now. Got a dwarf in from india at 1/100th of kenny's rate.

His last role (1)

choprboy (155926) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568782)

Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?

Ford's last role in Star Wars, the Star Wars Holiday Special, was such a smash hit, how anything possibly go wrong?!?

Re:His last role (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568948)

Actually the Holiday Special was shot and aired between ANH and The Empire Strikes Back. So props for mentioning that traumatic Holiday Special, but -4 points for thinking it was his last role as Han.

-------------------
I save at -20 versus Jedi mind tricks.

Re:His last role (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568966)

Sorry to nitpick, it was actually his third last role in Star Wars. The air date was Nov 17, 1978.

Oh god... (1)

muindaur (925372) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568794)

My eyes and ears they burn. Mr. Lucas, why are you asking me to bend over again?

Re:Oh god... (5, Funny)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569052)

Mr. Lucas, why are you asking me to bend over again?

Probably because you've done it three times already and he knows a cheap date when he sees one.

good for him (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568796)

what the fuck is up with those ads with the faggot with oss bullshit in his silhouette?

that's seriously out of hand faggotry.

FUCKING HOMO!

btw: i'm glad ford rejected this shit. lucas is an asshole and should be beaten down in the public square.

Re:good for him (1)

ivansusanin (1050114) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569064)

Could not agree more. Star Wars is so much fucked up after episode 1.

Re:good for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569252)

Yeah! Now it's time to go fuck up the other series!

Re:good for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569256)

I say the story was f'd up after episode 4. I guess I'm the only one that started hating it with that whole "let me pull a Vader is really Luke's father outa my ass" trick.

contract stipulation... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568814)

The deal fell through because Ford stipulated in the contract that greedo couldn't shoot first.

George Lucas has lost credibility (5, Interesting)

boxlight (928484) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568824)

Harrison Ford knows crap when he sees it. He turned down the part because he wants to try and do good work, he's not interested in resurrecting an old character just for a cash grab -- like Ford once said about returning to Han Solo in a Barbara Walters interview, "That character is a little thin for me now".

George Lucas, on the other hand, has lost a tonnes of credibility with the Star Wars prequels. As Brent Spiner said, "it took him twenty years to come up with something lousey". George's quickness to return to the Star Wars well is more evidence that he has become a sell-out of the highest order.

George should forget about Star Wars spin-offs, go back to his roots and start a new project. Maybe a remake of Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers ... something he loved as a child.

boxlight

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

42Penguins (861511) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568910)

His role in the new Indiana Jones could easily be seen as "resurrecting an old charater for a cash grab" as well... ...But at least they haven't messed with prequels, thank Spielberg!

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (2, Informative)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569076)

Except that with Indiana Jones, it is a character than everyone involved has been vocal about wanting to bring back. Ford has stated a number of times that he wants to play Indy again. Speilberg has wanted to since they shot the last one. I believe that Sean Connery has also been quoted saying that playing Indy Sr. was the most fun he has ever had in a role. They have spent the past 20 years trying to work around everyone's schedules. The fact that Lucas is involved in it is almost an accident.

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

MrWa (144753) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569114)

Harrison Ford knows crap when he sees it.

Did you see "Firewall" or "Six days, Seven Nights"?

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

Xzzy (111297) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569200)

Right, and for Ford to still turn Lucas down says a whole lot.

Yeah, but Ford is boring now too (5, Insightful)

straponego (521991) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569132)

Okay, I know I'll get roasted for this, but... All I've seen Ford do for, oh, at least the last decade is play the straight man, the righteous normal guy who has to become an avenging action when he is SHOCKED to find that people do evil... but he never has a spark of the bad-boy sass that used to animate Han Solo and Indiana Jones.

I mean... looking at IMDB... the Tom Clancy movies, Air Force One (Worst Idea Ever), The Fugitive, Firewall, K-19... the guy's become a grim automaton. Some of those movies were decent, but his characters were pretty much the same in every damn one. Anyway, let's hope that IJ4 breaks the long grey-brown streak.

Re:Yeah, but Ford is boring now too (1)

malvidin (951569) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569266)

Have you seen What Lies Beneath?

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

gripen40k (957933) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569168)

Or a Willow sequel! I would jump on that cash grab any day. Besides, Samuel L. Jackson stars in damn near any movie that comes his direction, and I still respect him as a good actor (at least in some of his roles...), even though most of the movies he does just plain suck...

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569300)

You gotta respect a brand name actor who stars in something called "Snakes on a Plane" and says fuck it, I'm going to be in this movie even if everyone thinks I'm nuts for doing it.

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569176)

the last time he came up with something original, it was "Howard the Duck."

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569450)

"Howard the Duck."

There were actually several seconds of that that were quite good, but it wasn't the duck's ass I was looking at.

KFG

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

Kargan (250092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569208)

Not just that, either, (although I think you're right) but after watching Ford on Inside the Actor's Studio it really seems like he wants to sort of be distanced from Star Wars, as he really dodged or noncommittally answered several of the Star Wars questions, IIRC even seeming to forget the droids' names. That was kind of disappointing since Han is really pretty much the best character from the original trilogy, and the one character that you can totally point to and say "there's no one like HIM in the new trilogy". To me and a lot of other fans, I'm sure, he kind of represents the whole difference between the two trilogies. The new ones have no Han-type character and are worse off for it, something it seems George realizes way too late.

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (3, Insightful)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569262)

He turned down the part because he wants to try and do good work, he's not interested in resurrecting an old character just for a cash grab

Indiana Jones 4 ... ?

You know what, I actually would like to see the spin-off Star Wars with Ford. Unlike you crazy fans, I enjoy light fantasy/sci-fi movies for what they are.

The dialog and some plot lines in the prequels surely were very odd at times, but Lucas has enough feedback to know better now. He learned from Jar Jar-s feedback in the first one.

The problem here stems from insane fans with impossible to meet standards. I personally like Star Wars, like the sound track, most of the characters, and mostly, I enjoy exploring huge fantasy worlds executed in incredible detail and imagination, which is something we rarely see in movies, even for the sheer amount of people and effects required to make them a reality.

The rest is just fan snobbery.

Re:George Lucas has lost credibility (1)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569432)

George was a great storyteller but not a great director, from which he uses heavy editing as a fallback. He needs to take a step back, but have you seen the ROTS making-of web movies (DVD #2)? He's absolutely clear in what he wants, and no one can second guess him. The production crew in the making-of web movies, while technically very good, are all yes-men-and-women. No one has the balls to say 'George, this is crap'. He's had three goes to get it right in the prequels and none was great, but he won't step down.

If he stuck to the basic story telling and left the directing to people who are better directors, the franchise could still be saved. Only takes one good movie to turn it around.

Ain't it Slashed News (-1, Troll)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568826)

So /. is now a third rate knock off of a third rate rumor web site?

What Lucas project is in the works that needs an older Solo? B.S.

But, the bigger thing is, why is /. doing entertainment rumor? Now, if this were a real story and something was coming out of it, maybe. But, please, is there nothing? What about the Apple options cover-up, or are we not thinking Jobs is just more corporate scum? He's getting a pass because other Corporate scum say he "didn't know"?

Re:Ain't it Slashed News (2, Insightful)

HitByASquirrel (710289) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569008)

So /. is now a third rate knock off of a third rate rumor web site?

What Lucas project is in the works that needs an older Solo? B.S.

But, the bigger thing is, why is /. doing entertainment rumor?


Since when are Star Wars rumors not nerdy enough to go on /.?
As a /. user I feel that this not only news for me, but also it does matter.

(all said while pointing at Solo, Leia, and Fett action figures on the bookshelf)

Yeah, Han in carbonite, Leia in slave bikini, and Boba Fett.

the books that prominently featured solo (2, Interesting)

80 85 83 83 89 33 (819873) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568848)

often the best of the books featured han solo as a major story, so george did have a good idea, but the execution would have sucked. maybe harrison ford could have directed it, too....

Demanding fans? (5, Insightful)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568862)

There's NO WAY that anything Lucas or anyone else did would ever satisfy the "demanding fans" - the die-hards saw the originals when they were 8-12 years old, a long time ago. Their *memories* of seeing it the first time are far better than the movies actually were, so when 25 years later movies of the same general quality come out, of course they are disappointed. I was old enough to see them all with some degree of objectivity, and the originals weren't all that better than the prequels. The main thing that struck me about the originals were the effects, which were so much better than anything you had ever seen (aside from maybe 2001: A Space Odyssey). That Imperial Star destroyer coming in over the camera in the opening shot literally drew gasps from the audience. Very impressive compared to what came before, like Star Trek/Lost In Space, etc. That sort of "dazzle factor" is never going to be seen again from effects, and although the prequels effects were MUCH better than the originals, they didn't stand out. Take that away and all you have are some pretty predictable stories that anyone who watched B-movie Westerns would recognize.

          There's no way that the grown-up fans are ever going to be satisfied the way they were when they were 11 years old.

          Brett

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568902)

Character conflict.
SW1-3 were about character conflict.

SW-3 to -1 were vapid special effects with no conflict.

It wasn't that they failed to meet expectations. it was that they really did suck.

Re:Demanding fans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569130)

The originals were about underdogs & rogues, battling for independence and freedom; The prequels are about politics and the decline of a society, they are surprisingly good if viewed as political drama, the Jedi that know whats best for us versus the expert maneuvering of public opinion by the empire. I honestly felt no sympathy for the Jedi, who clearly felt they were above the law. I think the Younglings were slaughtered just so we would have to disapprove of what was happeneing.

If you ignore the obvious pandering to kids w/ Jar-Jar, and recognize they are by neccessity an entirely different style of movie from the originals (bad guys win, hero turn evil, society collapses), the series as a whole is surprisingly good (midiclorians aside :)

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

NFNNMIDATA (449069) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569254)

Where your theory falls apart (about the prequels being any good) is the enormous amount of bad acting in them. 90% of spoken lines by minor characters sound like they were performed by gaffers or makeup artists with all the emotion of a fourth grader reading a book report in front of the class. And all the dialog by everyone sounds like first takes. This is all the director's fault of course. The prequels are so very hard to watch, although I bet they are wonderful when dubbed into another language.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569340)

Agreed. I could easily look past the plot issues if the acting were good. I think most of the actors are competent, if not brilliant, at their craft, and could have delivered much, much more impressive performances with the right director.

Lucas, unfortunately, is just not a great director.

Episode II is the only one of the prequels that I found anything I really liked about. Ep III was tolerable in parts, and just bad in others. I will watch it if it's on HBO HD.

Episode I, I'll never watch again. It just sucked.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569236)

So, let me see if I understand you...We need a Star Wars Zero?

Re:Demanding fans? (2, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569376)

Star Wars Zero

That would be the Christmas Special.

Re:Demanding fans? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568968)

I was old enough to see them all with some degree of objectivity

Everyone likes to think that they have the market cornered on objectivity. It's simply not true. If you honestly think the changes that happen to you form the ages of 8-33 aren't much like the changes you'll go through from 33-58 you're just kidding yourself.

And I'm not even a Star Wars fan and I can clearly see the difference.

Good point, but doesn't capture it all (2, Interesting)

hypermanng (155858) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568972)

It's very true that, objectively, the originals weren't Timeless Cinema or anything and that it's quite impossible to compete with folks' nostalgic perception of the movies.

HOWEVER... Star Wars was also the first time anyone had done the space opera for which everyone had been pining since, I dunno, Jules Verne finally came to fruition with grandeur. 2001 was great, but it was semi-mystical hard sci-fi. It wasn't the cowboy movie in outer space that spoke to the munchkin in everyone. Except Brett, perhaps.

Re:Demanding fans? (1, Redundant)

thedarknite (1031380) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569010)

The major problem with Star Wars is the fact that George Lucas is poor writer and a mediocre director. He is however, an excellent ideas man. If he was to think of another movie plot and then delegated the bulk of the writing and directing, I think the resulting film would be quite good. But I am no longer willing to subject myself to anything written and directed by him.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

dthx1138 (833363) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569268)

Uh... you do realize that he wrote the original trilogy, right? Are you saying that sucked too?

Re:Demanding fans? (5, Insightful)

Varkias (631272) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569104)

I disagree. I've watched movies today that I loved as a kid and thought to myself "What was I thinking". Star Wars is one of those movies that I can still watch today and enjoy because it had a great story and great characters. The prequels were beautiful dreck with no soul. They will not be remembered because of the weak characters and story, it has nothing to do with the "wow" factor. I can remember watching Episode 1 thinking "wow" this movie looks beautiful and "wow" this story is horrible.

Re:Demanding fans? (2, Insightful)

Evilest Doer (969227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569248)

There's NO WAY that anything Lucas or anyone else did would ever satisfy the "demanding fans" - the die-hards saw the originals when they were 8-12 years old, a long time ago.
I'm afraid I would have to disagree with this. What made the original movies enjoyable was not my age then. I can even enjoy them now. What makes the original SW trilogy better than the prequels is the fact that the original SW trilogy didn't take itself too seriously. The original trilogy was a bit cheesy and campy, but it was never meant to be anything else. It was simply a set of three fun space movies with lots of fighting and explosions and a rag-tag band of rebels fighting the evil empire, all with a set of great heroes and knights. In the prequel trilogy, Lucas seems to be under the delusion that he is some sort of enlightened philosopher. His attempt at esoterism is just plain stupid and takes away from the movies. He basically takes a fun-filled trilogy and then makes prequels that are not even as well thought out as a paper written by a freshman philosophy major.

MOD PARENT UP (2, Funny)

IL-CSIXTY4 (801087) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569454)

I remember reading that Lucas was inspired by Flash Gordon and the like, those campy movie serials. The good guys wear white, the bad guys wear black, the rogue wears both...and I'm not sure how the stormtroopers or Chewbacca fit into this. There's action, suspense, romance, intrigue, and then the good guys win.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

sidb (530400) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569284)

I don't revere the originals. They certainly have their flaws. But the new ones just don't work even that well, in plot, emotion, or acting. I'd bet that an adult sitting through them all for the first time would still prefer the originals, even without nostalgia or dazzle factor. Harrison Ford would of course know that even though Lucas shared writing credits, he did not direct Empire Strikes Back or any Indiana Jones movie, and that will hold for the new Indy movie, too. Maybe Ford recognizes a good pattern when he sees it.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

eck011219 (851729) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569378)

I disagree -- I saw Star Wars when I was six, and was roped in like all of us were. Then I saw Raiders of the Lost Ark when I was ten and loved that even more. The second Raiders movie stunk, and I, to this day, think Last Crusade was as good in many ways as the first. I just watched it again the other day, as a matter of fact. And it came out when I was enough of an adult to be jaded (and still annoyed by the Temple of Doom).

So whether Lucas in particular can do anything with Star Wars or not may be the pertinent question, but I do think you can have people who saw the first in a series as a child and continue to enjoy it through adulthood.

I think another point in all of this might be that in sci-fi, you can really knock yourself out with effects and funny characters, often to the detriment of the story, and Lucas just doesn't have the restraint to avoid all of that. It shows in the Raiders movies, too -- each movie has several really horrendous one-liners that their respective films could do better without, but it's just not the kind of atmosphere that lends itself to those lines being spoken by a furry dwarf or a hammerhead humanoid. So a character belches out a groaner, everyone rolls their eyes, and the story moves on. There's not really any room for the effects to create entire characters for the sake of their novelty.

Forgetful fans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569408)

"Their *memories* of seeing it the first time are far better than the movies actually were, so when 25 years later movies of the same general quality come out, of course they are disappointed."

That's what alzheimers is for.

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

roundAbout27 (1050128) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569442)

Ive always wondered about the issue of special effects. Do we just learn as kids to suspend disbelief in a particular way? To me the prequels, while using the latest and greatest in special effects technology, look totally antiseptic to me. I'd much rather see a clunky model that has some grit to it. But perhaps thats the 10 year old talking...

Re:Demanding fans? (1)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569444)

Before Phantom my g/f and I were in a shopping center where they had just rolled out the merchandising. Around it wasn't a single kid. It was all 30-something fanboys. The genre belongs to us. Kids have their own stuff, and dare I say, better stuff. Its the memories that make it great.

Benjamin Bucks. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568866)

"It's being widely reported that Harrison Ford turned down a £20 million deal to play Han Solo once again in a George Lucas spin off of Star Wars."

NOW were are the posters proclaiming how this is a good thing that another actor doesn't get paid too much money?

Re:Benjamin Bucks. (2, Funny)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569102)

NOW w[h]ere are the posters proclaiming how this is a good thing that another actor doesn't get paid too much money?

They have nothing to proclaim, because if you'd read the fucking summary (let alone the article) you'd see that Harrison Ford "instead opted for the same amount [of money] to play Indiana Jones for the fourth time" (emphasis added).

Hooray for the geezer patrol (4, Funny)

freeweed (309734) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568874)

Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels

I guess if "rugged" is the new word for "over the hill", then possibly.

Is Lucas TRYING to emulate Trek here? ie: Keep re-using the same geriatrics until enough are in the grave that you have no choice but to finally re-cast the character?

Lucas wouldn't... (1)

qzulla (600807) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568876)

... let him shoot first this time.

qz

Re:Lucas wouldn't... (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569334)

In Lucas sequel, ROLE turns down FORD first!

Good for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568912)

He made the right choice. At least Indy still shoots first.

No! That's not why!!! (2, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568934)

He told George he just couldn't face being stuck in a spaceship with Chewbacca again.

This isn't the reason why he didn't want to play the role again... he knew he was supposed to be married to Carrie Fisher! And have you seen her lately?! YIKES!!! I think he'd *RATHER* kiss a Wookie!

he could always.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568936)

..be cast as the wookie!

oh please. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17568942)

"Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?"

I was seven years old when the first one came out. By the time he made the third one, it was obvious that the franchise sucked. Anyone who stuck around after that is not that demanding.

I think anyone who watched three more crappy movies and *still* expected something good to come of it should just check "jedi" on their census form.

What about the twins? (2, Funny)

gridsleep (230884) | more than 7 years ago | (#17568976)

I can imagine them getting Carrie Fisher back to play a skinny, bhang-smoking Leia, sitting by her pool overlooking Naboo. "Pool-boy! Moisture! AAAaaaaa-aaahh.....!" And Luke trying to look all Jedi while resisting the urge to sulk or stare wistfully into the sunset. Would Chewie be buying Grecian Formula 16 by the 55-gallon drum? I think we have the workings of a SNL sketch here.

Re:What about the twins? (2, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569090)

Fisher is to play the illegitimate offspring of Leia and Jabba... they didn't talk about it much, but Fisher is just PERFECT for the part.

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From George Lucas (1)

revolu7ion (994315) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569146)

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Re:From George Lucas (1)

TerminaMorte (729622) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569336)

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My old father -- 86 years old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569150)

When I was younger back in the late 70s, I remember going with the family to Century City in LA to see Star Wars. Other teens back then had seen the movie a half dozen times it was that significant.

Anyhow, Pop liked the movie. It was something to remember. Moreover, that was the only Star Wars movie he had seen in the last 25 or so years. You see, he generally thinks hollywood is hollyshit and avoids the theaters. One of those Master Piece theater types...

Lately, Dad was visiting. We were bored and I put in the Star Wars III Revenge Of The Sith DVD. After about 10 minutes into the movie he thought it was some kind of joke. Crappy to say it nicely. Or how about what the hell happened I thought this was Star Wars?

IJ4 should hand off the Indy role (2, Insightful)

Loadmaster (720754) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569246)

to Bruce Campbell. C'mon, you know you want it. Hail to the king, baby.

Swi

$ not £! (0, Redundant)

jjeffries (17675) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569276)

Harrison Ford is American, right? So I assume that he spends most of his time in the USA... So what the hell is he going to do with £20 million British pounds in America? Maybe he's do it if he were to be offered some spendable American dollars... duh!!!

Re:$ not £! (2, Insightful)

unother (712929) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569330)

Erm... this is a RTFA moment. The source is British, hence the usage of quid...

Re:$ not £! (1)

boobavon (857902) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569358)

Check the exchange rate for pounds. What he was offered amounts to $38,923,202.36 [xe.com] . Seems like a nice paycheck to me.

Re:$ not £! (2, Insightful)

Skidge (316075) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569382)

With the dollar declining, I'd rather get paid in pounds. :)

Re:$ not £! (1)

space tyrant xenu (996203) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569396)

I'm an American, but if someone was going to pay me £20 million rather than $20 million, I'd take it without hesitation, with the exchange rate being what it is. The funds can be transferred into dollars, after all.

Gonna light a bonfire, fuel it with my karma... (5, Funny)

Mr. Roadkill (731328) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569364)

Okay, here's the REAL deal.

Harrison Ford took the Indiana Jones role over the Han Solo one because it's going to be a much better movie.

The rumour that it takes place in the sixties is true, and fits in nicely with the Mr Ford's present age.

What hasn't been widely revealed is that Sean Connory *will* be in the movie, although the role will probably surprise many people.

Since Satan owns the pink slip for the soul of pretty much everyone who has ever worked in motion pictures, he can shuffle the deck however he sees fit... and some interesting studio mergers mean that Sean Connory will play an elderly James Bond who fell through a temporal rift as the result of Xindi interference with Earth history - the theory being that if they could get all the kids hooked on beer and acid and dope then warp drive would never be invented. Little did they realise that Optimus Prime would ride in on My Little Pony and save the day by assassinating Kennedy and illegitimately fathering Rosie ODonnell with, you guessed it, Rosie ODonnell - who fell through the same temporal rift James Bond fell through. Pygmies re-discover left-over gou'auld technology that permits them to build hypersonic blow-dart weapons, which are capable of destroying ICBMs and thereby save the USA from the tyranny of total destruction when they decide to make the Ukraine glow in the dark...which happens two-thirds of the way through the movie, because the Ark of the Covenant (which was stolen from Area 51 by the Xindi) has been given to the Russians, who are using it to try to re-animate a cut-n-shunt SuperPolitician they've made from the cryogenically preserved remains of Adolph Hitler, Josef Stalin and Walt Disney - but exposure to nuclear fallout causes this re-animated monstrosity to sprout wings and fly to Tokyo, where as Mothra it does battle with Godzilla until Indiana Jones...

Sorry, I've given too much away already. You'll just have to buy a ticket like everybody else.

Missing Pption (1)

RazorRaiser (895600) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569434)

"Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?" ...or could it have been cooked up by said tabloid?

Yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17569438)

"Could the spin off centered on the rugged Han Solo save the Star Wars franchise from its prequels or would it have been another mediocre release disappointing demanding fans?"

Yes.

Nick Nolte? (1)

pedrop357 (681672) | more than 7 years ago | (#17569452)

No time like the present for Nick Nolte to step in and fulfill his destiny.

They could even act is as if nothing had happened, like when TV shows just replace the actor that plays a certain character-Becky in Roseanne comes to mind.
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