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Mars Probe May Have Spotted Sojourner Rover

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the born-free-as-free-as-the-wind-blows dept.

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Maggie McKee writes "NASA's eagle-eyed Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter may have spotted the tiny, toaster oven-sized Sojourner rover just a few meters away from its companion, the Mars Pathfinder lander. It appears to have crawled there in an attempt to re-establish contact with the lander after the lander had already died. But the pictures aren't clear enough to definitively ID the rover, and it's possible Sojourner simply took off on its own. If it were miraculously still alive after 10 years, it could be 3 kilometers away from Pathfinder — and probably impossible to find, even with MRO."

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149 comments

wow... its not impossible (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17576314)

Well hopefully its establishes contact again... maybe it was stolen by the aliens !

quick check for probes..

Re:wow... its not impossible (1)

Foryst (870882) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576550)

It was probably taken by whoever stole our herds of sweet sweet Buggalo.

Re:wow... its not impossible (-1, Offtopic)

x2A (858210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576628)

"No Mom, I was just checking for probes!"

Yeah right, of CAUSE that's what you were doing. Now go wash your hands.

I spy (4, Funny)

metlin (258108) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576354)

I spy with my litle eye something that starts with S.

SOJOURNER? Yay!

Re:I spy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577118)

Sojourner Rover: WHAZZUP!!!

Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter: WHAZZUP!!!

Sojourner Rover: Not much, just chillin'...

Don't let them mate! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17576374)

Else they'll multiply like rabbits

Rover (5, Funny)

master_kaos (1027308) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576384)

Red Rover, Red Rover, Let Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Come Over

HTML version of Sojourner pic (5, Funny)

PeeAitchPee (712652) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576414)

.

;-)

HOLY CRAP (4, Funny)

everphilski (877346) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576914)

;-)

is that a face I see on Mars?

Re:HOLY CRAP (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578180)

is that a face I see on Mars?

Naw, its just Venus's light reflecting off an EBCDIC printout.
   

Dad .. Dad ???? (5, Funny)

UberHoser (868520) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576418)

Sorry, the image of the little one crawling to it's dad after a crash.. kinda choked me up ....

Re:Dad .. Dad ???? (3, Funny)

chrisb33 (964639) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576818)

I thought the same thing... poor little guy, trying to nuzzle under the lander like Simba in the Lion King. Now all we need is for Spirit and Opportunity to come over and sing "Hakuna Matata!"

That's because you crazy. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577222)

That's because you crazy: (see link for more details)

http://www.ineedcaffeine.com/unboring.php [ineedcaffeine.com]

Re:Dad .. Dad ???? (1)

skoaldipper (752281) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576956)

For all you whooper snappers out there, Silent Running with Bruce Dern. One of my all time favorites and very apropos here.

Batteries not included (2, Funny)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576420)

Was anyone else reminded of the scene when the one robot finds the other one after the guy hit it with an axe? Poor little robot...

Re:Batteries not included (1)

ystar (898731) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578522)

Ughhhh...that movie was so sad, it actually hurt to watch it as a five year old boy. Which is unique as far as my memory of movies go. I must have not been desensitized yet - it was probably my introduction to non-cartoon violence, save for the live-action TMNT. Heck, It's probably just that I valued technology more than human lives back then too!

Re:Batteries not included (1)

ystar (898731) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578660)

Wait a minute! I thought you were talking about Short Circuit! http://youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJoPpda5Ik [youtube.com]

Rovers are signs of intelligent life! (5, Funny)

BubbaFett (47115) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576428)

Is Mars so boring now that we're just sending things there to look at other things we've sent there?

Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! (5, Insightful)

MyHair (589485) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576612)

From TA I gather they wanted to see what Sojourner did after losing contact...how did its programming to return to base play out?

I'm guessing it's also a sanity check of several factors.

Plus it's nifty cool!

Lastly, perhaps seeing how various known objects appear on the images will help them look for crash sites like Beagle's. MPL presumably is flying through space somewhere, but if they weren't confident of that they could look for its crash site, too.

Even more lastly it's probably interesting to see how the weather affects conditions around long-sitting known objects. Do dunes build up? Do they get dusty or does the wind clean them? Etc.

Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! (1)

x2A (858210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576918)

Haha, beginning on Time Trumpet (episode 6) -

"It's 2031, and we've accomplished so much, we're actually running out of things to do. NASA has just sent a probe to Mars to look for the five pound note they hid there two years earlier."

Very funny. Anyone who liked The Day Today will like Time Trumpet.

Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577500)

FYI, the data from NASA spacecraft is generally private to the primary investigator for the instrument in question for a year, after which it's made public. Though, of course, the PI can decide to release bits and pieces sooner if they want to. This is to give these scientists the first crack at analysis and the ability to release papers before other scientists who didn't have a hand in running or designing the mission.

I would speculate that these "let's see if we can spot Pathfinder, Spirit/Opportunity, etc." pictures are a small part of the imaging plan, but since they are unlikely to contain the same level of science return as other targets, they make good fodder for early release to the public.

Mars is boring except for geologists ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17578750)

... but I still want to go there.

It's got this immense benefit over the earth: no lawyers and no politicians. For now.

wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (5, Funny)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576484)

...in a dorky kind of way.

Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (1)

Gax (196168) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576668)

Any bets that Disney will make a kids movie called Little lost Rover?

Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (1)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576746)

> Any bets that Disney will make a kids movie called Little lost Rover?

No, but Futurama will do "Martian Bark". Poor Sojourner Seymour.

Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (1)

Pinkfud (781828) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576674)

I was thinking the same thing. It's like Marvin the paranoid robot. "I can't do what I was supposed to do. My existence is meaningless. Guess I'll just stand over here and rust".

Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (2, Insightful)

rcatarella (239076) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576728)

Robots hate to be anthropomorphized ;)

Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... (1)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578670)

Indeed. The summary makes it sound like a poor, helpless little critter to be pitied. Aww....

Hi Martians! (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576570)

I'm a little robot.
I'm a little robot who is lost.
I'm a little robot who is lost from Earth.
If I'm a little robot who is found, please call the interstellar hot line 1-800-LOSTROBOTS.

Re:Hi Martians! (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577028)

Princess Vespa: I don't have to take this. I'm Rich!
DOT Matrix: What are you going to do?
Princess Vespa: I'm calling my father! 1-800-DRU-ID-I-A

Re:Hi Martians! (1)

smorken (990019) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577234)

if I looking for robot
him name is Sojourner red robot
I lost my frog
301-286-2000
Love,
NASA
P.S. I'll find my robot
Who took my robot
Who found my robot

What about Mars program? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17576610)

I wonder why don't they try to image probes from Russian Mars probe program [wikipedia.org] ? It would be interesting and important to know why did they ultimately failed. Mars 2 and 3 even had small rovers which maybe could be imaged, if they were deployed.

Re:What about Mars program? (1)

necro81 (917438) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577132)

MRO has only been on station a few months, since March [wikipedia.org] . Imaging these four American landers [newscientist.com] were probably higher priorities than older Soviet landers. One might also ask when we'll get images of the defunct Beagle 2 lander [wikipedia.org] from the ESA's Mars Express [wikipedia.org] mission. It died somewhere on descent.

Give JPL enough time, I'm sure they'll locate every little man-made scap [wikipedia.org] we've placed on the surface of Mars.

How probes are located (3, Informative)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578846)

MRO has only been on station a few months, since March. Imaging these four American landers were probably higher priorities than older Soviet landers.

I believe the appearent bias is for technical reasons, such as newer radio tracking technology, and the fact that surface images are used to help find the landing sites. No Soviet probe ever returned a surface image.

Somebody discovered that if they stretch the vertical scale of a Viking surface image, the distant hills were more easy to see. This allowed them to match them to orbiter photos of the general vacinity.

The Sojourner landing set found two fairly large hills in the distance that were used to pinpoint their spot.

The two current rovers also sent back images from about a mile high just before landing for the very purpose of finding them from orbit. (Technically the camera was on the outer appuratus, not the rovers themselves.)

This is partly in response to the lost Polar Lander, which they are still looking for to gain clues to what went wrong. The fact that Polar Lander didn't send radio signals nor images is why it is still lost. Thus, Polar Lander is in the same boat as the Soviet landers and Beagle.

It is not nationalism bias, at least not yet.
       

Re:What about Mars program? (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578884)

I believe they hope to, but first they need a good idea of where to look for them; the higher the camera resolution, the smaller the area of the surface they can search at any time.

There was some discussion about looking for the Russian probes on the www.unmannedspaceflight.com forums.

Callous and heartless (4, Funny)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576630)

So when contact with the lander, which was designed to last one month, was lost after three months, ground controllers were not sure what became of Sojourner.
What callous monsters these NASA people are! Poor Sojourner was left to wander around with no means of communicating back home, while dying a slow and lonely death. I had to wipe the tears from my eyes as I read that story.

Re:Callous and heartless (1)

jamesshuang (598784) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577286)

I felt so sad when I thought of Sojurner wandering around aimlessly, slowly dying itself, while searching for its big brother Pathfinder, who had already died... *tear*

I think I'm watching too much anime at this point...

Re:Callous and heartless (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577672)

Poor Sojourner was left to wander around with no means of communicating back home, while dying a slow and lonely death.

It will meet up with Spirit and together they will party and have children. They are the Adam and Eve of Mars. 6000 years from now billions of robots will read about them in Genesis of the Mars Bible. But the Mars evolutionists will insist Sojourner evolved from toasters and staplers instead of having a Creator (JPL).
       

Re:Callous and heartless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17578074)

But the Mars evolutionists will insist Sojourner evolved from toasters and staplers instead of having a Creator (JPL).

Phewy! Every martian knows Sojo was created by the Flying Fork Monster.
     

Re:Callous and heartless (1)

Hercynium (237328) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578468)

You win the thread! That was the first post in a long time that made me want to be a moderator again!

Re:Callous and heartless (1)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578792)

Best. Slashdot. Post. Ever.

Re:Callous and heartless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17579406)

So you're saying that you are a creationist?

Good job.

Can anyone make out the pic details? (4, Insightful)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576646)

My eyes and monitor are good, but I can't tell what the labels are to. Couldn't anyone draw a line to whatever the item is that they think is the rover? I'm just not seeing it at all. It's like where's Waldo in black and white but with a much, much smaller Waldo.

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (1)

gsslay (807818) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577316)

You're not alone. I can't make out anything that doesn't look like Martian rock. Is everyone looking at a different picture or something? Am I blind??

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (1)

gsslay (807818) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577388)

Oh, and the mis-spelling of "Heatshield" on the picture doesn't exactly look too professional either.

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17578682)

Sadly it looks like that misspelling is from NASA...

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (3, Informative)

fmackay (23605) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577658)

This high-res version of the image [nasa.gov] has pointers to the objects of interest - I still can't figure out which pixel is supposed to be the rover though.

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (1)

duguk (589689) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577826)

Ah, the delight of viewing a 4MB Nasa image, looking like it was done in MS Paint... With SHIELD spelt wrong.

DugUK

Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? (1)

posterlogo (943853) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578304)

Thanks for the hi-res link. The backshell and parachute look convincing. From there, they can take images that pathfinder took and extrapolate where it should be relative to those two. Turns out there is a bright spec there "MPF", with possibly a much smaller bright spec very close to it -- that would be Sojourner, possibly.

How bad is the American science culture? (0, Troll)

gorehog (534288) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576656)

It's so bad that the editors of the article forgot to include a scale to indicate the actual size of the area in the image.

Re:How bad is the American science culture? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17578698)

Interesting, given that New Scientist is a British magazine.

Two probes enter (2, Funny)

Cylix (55374) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576688)

One probe leaves...

Re:Two probes enter (1)

Skadet (528657) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577166)

...and later the other probe leaves, after being declared the winner.

Brave Little Toaster (1)

ToxikFetus (925966) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576744)

I think I saw the prequel [imdb.com] to this movie [imdb.com] when I was a kid...

can it be used again? (1)

sup2100 (996095) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576852)

If the rover is still functioning can it be used to take more measurements? Would there even be a point, or has the rover been made obselete by the newer ones?

Re:can it be used again? (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577468)

Negative. Sojourner talks through Pathfinder. Since Pathfinder's dead, Sojourner's mute. Crudely speaking, look at it as a DSL line with your PC as Soj and the modem as Path. Dead modem, the PC doesn't talk to NASA.

Re:can it be used again? (1)

sup2100 (996095) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577990)

Thats true, but following the same analogy, couldn't the modem be replaced? I assume that its communicating through some wireless protocol and if another probe were to mimic that protocol, communications could be restored. However, I doubt that another probe has the same capabilites, in which case Sojourner would be useless.

The Onion was way ahead on this one (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576888)

an infographic [theonion.com] listing the challenges NASA faces with the rovers, and one of them is "Must maneuver around burnt-out hunks of failed probes littering Martian surface"

Re:The Onion was way ahead on this one (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577882)

the challenges NASA faces with the rovers, and one of them is "Must maneuver around burnt-out hunks of failed probes littering Martian surface"

There is a hallarious youtube movie about a bunch of smashed up probes littering the ground. They all fail in different goofy ways. Quite clever. A Squidward-like martian comes out of a hole and gathers the severed probe antennas up as flowers for his girlfriend. Just when he is about to give her the "flowers", yet another wayward probe smashes into the viewer (us) as they run for cover. I'll see if I can re-find it. Topnotch geek humor.
     

Re:The Onion was way ahead on this one (1)

Dr Caleb (121505) | more than 7 years ago | (#17579400)

I think if you look at the NASA image, and look at the crater in the central area of Quadrant 1 - that looks a lot like it could have been made by Beagle.

MarsClock for Palm Pilots (2, Interesting)

HoneyBeeSpace (724189) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576910)

If you want to geek out and track the lifespan of the various Mars missions, you can do so on your Palm with MarsClock [dyndns.org] . If you want the desktop version check out Mars24 [nasa.gov] . Both should be updated for Pheonix sometime this year.

Dyslexic (1)

AikonMGB (1013995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576946)

Did anyone else read that headline as "Sigourney Weaver"?

I'm going to go crawl into my hole now...

Aikon-

You're not dyslexic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577466)

...you're just f*ckin' blind.

Re:Dyslexic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17578154)

A toaster oven sized Sigourney Weaver? She'd be hot.

*Much* better pictures on NASA site (5, Informative)

ashitaka (27544) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576966)

There is a collection of much higher resolution pictures on the NASA site [nasa.gov] to the point you can see the ramps on the lander.

It is difficult to see whether the sojurner rover is nearby or not. The programming was set to make it do so but I like the thought of an intrepid little robot setting off on it's own.

"It's a magical world, Hobbes old buddy. Let's go exploring"

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

ashitaka (27544) | more than 7 years ago | (#17576994)

s/it's/its

{Sigh} Ruined one of my better posts...

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

SaDan (81097) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577098)

Eh? Weren't you correct in your original post?

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577210)

No. "It's" is only a contraction for "it is". However, its/it's the only form of apostrophe misuse that doesn't make me want to kill someone, because it's somewhat understandable.

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577706)

Then it is correct in the original post, because you would expand the contraction to

"It is a magical world..."

Anyway, that's how Bill Watterson wrote it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes [wikipedia.org]

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

ashitaka (27544) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577564)

Expand the contraction and see if it makes sense:

"...setting off on it is own"

See? Doesn't work.

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577806)

Oh bother, didn't even see the "it's" above that line. I had to re-read it like 3 times after seeing this wondering 'wtf did THAT line come from?'

Yea, I think that's where the OP's first responder got confused too I bet, because you have another 'it's' right below it.

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578076)

And the high res image is gone.

You know a Government agency is underfunded when you can slashdot it from a post halfway down the page.

Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site (1)

ElAsturiano (622659) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578106)

can you say 'slashdotted'?

in other news ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577000)

Bush claims that Sojourner has been taken over by 'Axis of Evil', and orders whole area sprayed with cannon fire. Then claims massive victory.

Stop wasting this technology on other planets (4, Funny)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577128)

We're spending all this money so we can spot a lost robot millions of miles away, so why can't we point it back at earth and help me find my KEYS!

GAAAAH!

Man (0, Redundant)

hardcampa (533829) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577160)

Am I the only one who read: Mars Probe May Have Spotted Sigourney Weaver

The ultimate scavenger hunt (2)

nizo (81281) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577194)

After we colonize Mars, the first one to find it gets a 25 million dollar coffee table for their new home!

Re:The ultimate scavenger hunt (2, Funny)

pluther (647209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578254)

It's actually only a $49.00 coffee table. The rest is Ikea's home delivery charge.

Viking landers (2)

abigor (540274) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577322)

What most amazes me are the Viking landers. Looking at some of the pictures they took, the quality is just great. And they kept transmitting information for years - I think Viking 2 finally died in 1982 or something, six years after landing. Cult 1970s technology!

Re:Viking landers (1)

prisoner-of-enigma (535770) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577492)

What most amazes me are the Viking landers. Looking at some of the pictures they took, the quality is just great. And they kept transmitting information for years - I think Viking 2 finally died in 1982 or something, six years after landing. Cult 1970s technology!

Not to denigrate that "cult 1970's technology," but what's really sad about this is how pretty much all of our post-Viking landers have been limited by batteries and solar cells, whereas the "old" 70's tech had long-lived radioisotope thermal generators (RTG). What a pity the anti-nuke crowd is so paranoid that we're forced to limit the exploration of Mars because their knee-jerk reactions to anything nuclear border on the hysterical.

RTG protesters (1)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577712)

What a pity the anti-nuke crowd is so paranoid that we're forced to limit the exploration of Mars because their knee-jerk reactions to anything nuclear border on the hysterical.

Do these people really make a difference? I remember hippies protesting over Cassini but that didn't stop the mission. Did NASA actually want to use RTGs on these Martian probes and get flamed into submission? If they did, then they're wussies.

Re:Viking landers (3, Insightful)

abigor (540274) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577838)

Fully agreed, I have long been a proponent of nuclear power - I can remember talking about this nearly 10 years ago, and not just for powerplants in spacecraft, but also as the real answer to air quality issues, foreign oil dependence, and so forth. To be honest, there is a significant number of enviro types who are pro-nuclear, but they tend to be in the rationalist camp. The emotional camp, always the larger and more vocal of the two, consistently drowns out the rationalists in any debate.

It was such emotional arguments that cancelled the U.S. Integral Fast Reactor back in the '90s (I think it was), and has retarded the deployment of reactors in general all over the place in favour of coal, etc.

Re:Viking landers (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578508)

The scope of these missions and the power needed makes RTG a wasted expense. Now that exploring mars is 'hot' and theres more money/congressional interest the next genertion of rovers will have on-board RTGs. No hippies to blame.

Re:Viking landers (2, Informative)

damiangerous (218679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17579530)

You're confusing dates and events, but essentially yes. Viking 2 failed in 1980 after 3 1/2 years due to battery failure. Viking 1 survived for over six years until 1982. It didn't actually die on its own, we broke it. An update to the battery charging software overwrote the antenna positioning software and contact was lost.

"Junkyard Planet" (1)

AlHunt (982887) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577406)


We're going to *have* to colonize Mars just so we can issue ourselves a junkyard permit.

Wondering Mystery (2, Interesting)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577454)

This would be great if confirmed. The rover was programmed to move toward the lander station if I did not receive any commands for a certain period of time in order to improve its radio signal with the lander. But without a way to communicate with Earth (probably because the lander's batteries died and that rover relied on the lander for Earth contact), JPL had no way to know what the rover was doing during this time and if this emergency procedure was carried out. Now we may have an idea about how the rover did on its own. Perhaps it even built a clubhouse and spa during our absense :-)

Re:Wondering Mystery (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17579348)

More important is the reason behind it going back closer to the lander

"Mommy? Mommy? Are you okay, Mommy?"

shi7! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17577488)

Michael Bay Strikes Again (1)

jrmiller84 (927224) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577840)

Or was it... Megatron?!?!

Re:Michael Bay Strikes Again (1)

jakel2k (736582) | more than 7 years ago | (#17579614)

Megatron was a gun... this was a Toaster! Not a walkman, not a microscope, not a cassette, a Toaster!!! Could be some next generation Transformer I would guess... the question is if the symbol is of autobot or deceptacon?!? We'll need higher resolution images, ASAP!

A Much Better Image (1)

sasserstyl (973208) | more than 7 years ago | (#17577916)

I can't understand why Slashdot links to the New Scientist site when NASA is surely the best place to link to. Seems like a ploy for traffic by New Scientist to me.

Anyway, there's a better image here [nasa.gov] .

Re:A Much Better Image (1)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578604)

*Much* better. But interesting to see how not even NASA folks can spell.

NASA site doesn't show Sojourner (1)

ToSeek (529348) | more than 7 years ago | (#17579060)

I haven't found anywhere on a NASA site that shows the purported Sojourner rover - only New Scientist and one other online news site do, so far.

Sagan Memorial Station (1)

computersareevil (244846) | more than 7 years ago | (#17578342)

I thought the Mars Pathfinder lander had been renamed Sagan Memorial Station [nasa.gov] ?

Sojourner's fate (1)

ToSeek (529348) | more than 7 years ago | (#17579120)

In case of communications failure, the Sojourner rover was programmed to return to the lander and circle it. It's unlikely that it's kilometers away.
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