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Blizzard Hints At New StarCraft, Launches Burning Crusade

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the you-may-have-heard-of-them dept.

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Game Developer Blizzard Entertainment's long-anticipated expansion to World of Warcraft has gone live. Initial impressions are ... not available, since all 8 million players are currently in the Outlands. I'll take that to mean the servers for the most part have not melted yet. At a Burning Crusade launch party, a Blizzard exec revealed we may see a new StarCraft game very soon. But today is all about WoW. If you're not playing, and want to live vicariously, check out WarCry's extensive preview of the expansion. You could read designer Jeff Kaplan's comments on new features at FiringSquad, or Shane Dibiri's talk of inspiration at Next Generation. One new expansion a year, eh? Some folks are already looking to the future, where we probably won't see WoW on consoles, but may see it with security dongles. 0.1% of the Earth's population can't all be wrong.

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U$ and A dead at 230 (not due to the blizzard!) (-1, Troll)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 7 years ago | (#17627958)

Euro displaces dollar in bond markets [ft.com]
The euro has displaced the US dollar as the world's pre-eminent currency in international bond markets, having outstripped the dollar-denominated market for the second year in a row.

The data consolidate news last month that the value of euro notes in circulation had overtaken the dollar for the first time. Outstanding debt issued in the euro was worth the equivalent of $4,836bn at the end of 2006 compared with $3,892bn for the dollar, according to International Capital Market Association data.

BTW, I'm sorry for Taco, my gorilla told his Mom it only wanted to do her ass but she insisted it'd preferably cum in her greasy cunt than in her bloody stinky 'nuss.

Let me be the first to say (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17627970)

Fuck Yeah!

It is about time!

Starcraft 2? No kidding. WOW is stable. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628002)

I know Blizzard is working on Starcraft 2, but it's nice to see it finally documented, thanks.

I'd have gotten first post... (5, Funny)

SNR monkey (1021747) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628008)

..but I was busy playing WoW

Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (5, Informative)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628014)

Your servers are not prepared!!

Serious aside: once you get your copy, there is no need to run the installer from the discs. All you need is the key to upgrade your account using the provided key—you already have all the content as of the 2.0 patch series. If you run the installer, it rolls your local copy back to 2.0.3, and once you start the game, you would go through two patch cycles back to 2.0.5. Save yourself some time and just upgrade your account directly at https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ [worldofwarcraft.com] .

Grammar lobe broken. (4, Funny)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628038)

All you need is the key to upgrade your account using the provided key...

Brain not working. Late night last. Up, leveling new Blood Elf. Damned if they are not the gayest video game characters ever.

Scrunchie? Scrunchie? Scrunchie!?

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (2, Informative)

B0red At W0rk (876713) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628238)

The 4 CDs contain a lot of content which was not distributed in any patches. All the patches since 2.0.x sum up to approximately 600 Mb.

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (1)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628278)

I got mine at a midnight launch. Aside from some sky high latency issues, the servers held up. Much better than the regular launch. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go convince my boss I suddenly caught the flu. out of no where. For only a couple of days.

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (4, Informative)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628982)

The European servers died at ten past midnight (the portal opened at midnight). After a server reboot they died *again* about 15 minutes later.

Oh and blizz sent out a load of duff CDs (many people can't read CD4) and they sent out the wrong keys with the collectors edition so you can't get the 'exclusive' content unless you take a pair of scissors to your box and send bits of it to an address in France...

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (4, Informative)

XMunkki (533952) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628352)

Actually there IS a need to install the CDs, as not all TBC content came with the patches (I suspect mainly the Outland regions). Don't know how it is in the US, but it's like this in the europe [wow-europe.com] . It is true it will re-run a few patches after installing though.

And yes, you can play the non-TBC regions with a normal unupgraded client even if you have activated TBC.

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628660)

You have to upgrade the installation if you plan to visit Outland (and possibly the Blood Elf/Draenei zones, not sure about these). The TBC-only content is not present in current client. It contains some TBC content, but only that part which can be seen by player without TBC.

Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: (1)

tapo (855172) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628730)

This is not true, you need to have Burning Crusade installed as well as having your account upgraded. Installation of BC adds 2.2 gigs of content onto a vanilla WoW 2.0 install.

Attention!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628022)

Attention all PFYs!!!

There's a new game on a horizon!!!
And new version of old crap!!!

All PFYs prepare for addiction NOW!

Outlands fun? Think again. (4, Informative)

BelDion (109503) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628034)

Outlands is a gankfest right now and pretty much every quest mob is being camped...

Plan B: grind in Winterspring.

Re:Outlands fun? Think again. (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628214)

yeah i got my first kill->gather quest done right outside thrallmar last night. Outlands is teh awesome so far, I wouldn't waste much time in winterspring, no phat lewtz, plus I was getting 1000-1100 XP per mob for the lvl 60-61 mobs... The green drops are awesome, time to head back to Orgrimmar and put stuff on the AH for those who aren't level 60 or don't have the xpac yet... mwuhaha!

Re:Outlands fun? Think again. (0, Troll)

Daddy_was_a_donkey (857723) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629100)

Gibberish, just gibberish

Sweet, sweet freedom! (5, Insightful)

airhed13 (732958) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628040)

You have no idea how glad I am that I finally don't care about this story. I uninstalled the game last weekend, and I've moved the CDs to my "never gonna play that game again" spindle in the back of my closet.

That's one addiction that I'll never regret kicking.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (1)

Cstryon (793006) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628430)

Good for you Airhed! Just erks me that you let everyone know that you can beat an addiction, and I only see +2 Insightful! If I had Points, you'd be getting my vote.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (1)

Requiem (12551) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628588)

Word. I kicked my FFXI addiction a couple of months ago. I miss it, but I don't miss my newfound free time.

If your characters still exist... (5, Funny)

StoatBringer (552938) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628632)

...can I have all your gold?

Re:If your characters still exist... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628684)

lmao

Yup, my wife too... (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628664)

My wife kicked her habit too, sold her WoW account right before new years.

Now, unfortunately, every friend I know still plays WoW so I have to hear about it all the time, but the house for the moment is WoW free :P

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (2, Interesting)

Nazlfrag (1035012) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628768)

Yep, they certainly can suck you in. I still play FFXI and others in small doses, though I kicked the habit for months first. I was taking these games FAR too seriously. Sucks all the fun out of it really, like alcohol addiction.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (3, Interesting)

Mr.Scamp (974300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628784)

And yet you have carefully stored the disks. Rather like an alcoholic saying he's sober because he moved the liquor into a back closet.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (2, Interesting)

airhed13 (732958) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628958)

I wouldn't be too concerned about that. That's the spindle that has Master of Orion 3, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, and the original (unpatched) Black & White. It's my object lesson spindle, and I use it to remind myself of some of the difficult lessons that I've learned over the years.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (2, Informative)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628838)

And of course, that is exactly why Blizz generously doesn't delete your account info - so you can come back in six months when you need your fix.

Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! (1)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629210)

Congrats; I too am enjoying my extra life.

Starcraft? Dongles? (0, Offtopic)

timeOday (582209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628048)

Dongles aren't needed since piracy isn't much of an issue with an online game, and any other game they release is unlikely to be equally or more successful than WoW.

It seems to me that Blizzard's life couldn't possibly get any better than it already is, why mess with it? Sit back, release an expansion once per year, and enjoy the torrent of cash.

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (2, Insightful)

EvilRyry (1025309) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628096)

You'd think they'd make the game free since theres no single player action. Even if they lose $50 because they let you download it, they'll make up for it with your lifetime addiction.

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628390)

The exact reason why I've no bought it: I need to pay for the box, /and/ it's useless unless I pay a monthly fee. That math doesnt fly, even with a "free trial" month.

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (4, Insightful)

Microlith (54737) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628152)

Congratulations, you missed the point.

The idea isn't to prevent piracy, but to provide some means of more secure authentication because people are getting their accounts "hacked" where "hacked" means they had an easily guessed username and password, or their machine is riddled with trojans and someone captured their password.

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629152)

Blizzard's authentication problems are no different from any other service on the web, from online banking to myspace.

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628620)


It seems to me that Blizzard's life couldn't possibly get any better than it already is, why mess with it? Sit back, release an expansion once per year, and enjoy the torrent of cash.


Damn Blizz leeches. Seed damnit Seed!

Re:Starcraft? Dongles? (2, Insightful)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629096)

> Sit back, release an expansion once per year, and enjoy the torrent of cash.

For the next 3-4 years, sure. WoW is probably enjoying its popularity peak around now. You remember Everquest, and how it looked like nothing would ever topple it, and how much money Sony was making off each expansion? Look at the mess Sony's in now; Everquest 2 did fairly poorly (compared to the original), Planetside was a near-disaster in MMO terms and SWG keeps getting redesigned in an attempt to appeal to people more.

MMOs don't last forever. They're going to need a sequel, and given the development lead time, had better be well into the design/possibly into actually implementing that sequel.

One New Expansion per Year?? (2, Informative)

messiuh (206505) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628052)

Uh... they barely gave enough time for the "hardcore" guilds to get through the newest content (Naxx)... nevermind the casual players that had -no- chance of ever seeing the majority of end-game content that was out for 2 years.

Now they are promising 1x expansion every year?

Well, I guess that ensures everyone that they won't have a life for years to come.

Re:One New Expansion per Year?? (1)

megaditto (982598) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628452)

Uh... Blame Blizzard and their expansions for taking away your life "for years to come."

Re:One New Expansion per Year?? (1)

B0red At W0rk (876713) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628702)

That's the point. After hitting level 70, a lot more casual players will be able to finish instances that only hardcore players had the patience and organization necessary to do.

Won't be enough ... (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628706)

Guilds will catch up. Remember, WoW was missing several endgame instances that were SUPPOSED to be there from day-1 (along with honor, battlegrounds, etc) and implemented later so guilds didn't have time to conquor them, as they were added later in time.

Everquest put out 2 expansions a year, roughly, after the first couple. And the raiding guilds keep up with it.

Re:One New Expansion per Year?? (1)

JohnnyBigodes (609498) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628892)

Well, that's the plan isn't it? Keep them addicted for life, all while paying the monthly fee :)

Re:One New Expansion per Year?? (1)

mgiuca (1040724) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629164)

See, that's just the problem. As a casual (or, ex-casual) WoW player, I had fun... I had a lot of fun, but then I realised that there's basically as much content in this game as there is in any other game, just stretched excruciably thin over waves and waves of similar quests. The bottom line is, I can't get to any high end content.

This bothers me for two reasons. Firstly, I really feel like I get more out of a game when I play all of it. Not when I play for three months and experience 1/24th of the content. Secondly, I feel pretty cheated since I'm paying every month for continual high-end content (not to mention the expansion which I gather is mostly high-end content), which I'll never ever see.

I'll stick with Warcraft III Battle.net. The greatest game ever made.

As for StarCraft II - well I hope to hell that is real. Now that'll be the greatest game ever made, if they can overcome the WoW mentality and get back to their roots.

Got out, and thank heaven (1)

Excelcia (906188) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628054)

Anyone who thinks that the delay wasn't on purpose is on warcrack. By "on purpose", I mean specifically "delayed to keep people paying monthly fees longer, simply because we know they will hang on for the expansion". Everything about the game is intended to keep you addicted longer. I got out, along with my kids, and we're all happier for it. Yes, 0.1% of the population can be wrong.

Re:Got out, and thank heaven (1)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628084)

Yes because Blizzard has never had a history of delaying their games past announced release dates before.

Re:Got out, and thank heaven (3, Insightful)

Atheose (932144) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628640)

Warcraft II was delayed, Warcraft III was delayed 4 years (original release date was Q4 1999, was pushed back to September 2003 to change the game engine to 3D), Diablo II and its eventual expansion were both also delayed, as well as the Brood War expansion for Starcraft.

None of those had monthly fees; Blizzard has a history of delaying games in order to ensure that their customers get the best product available. Don't be so quick to assume the delay of Burning Crusade is just a conspiracy to milk more money out of subscribers.

Sorry but... (0, Troll)

lordsilence (682367) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628058)

World of Warcraft is simply a pretty world where all players are pampered all along the way...
If you're looking for a real challange, try out EVE Online at http://www.eve-online.com/ [eve-online.com] .
You can also visit my eve-related blog at http://www.eve-pirate.com/ [eve-pirate.com] :)

Re:Sorry but... (1)

Hubbell (850646) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628104)

Darkfall [darkfallonline.com] is another game that will be all about player skill, using UO style skill raising instead of leveling ala traditional RPG's, and will be open PVP with full drop on death.

Other platforms. (1)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628114)

Mac OS X client?

Re:Other platforms. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628550)

Get a real computer you pretentious arsehole. You think for anything to be worth while it has to have some sort of OSX client. Go wipe your arse with an iPhone.

I guess they don't want a "challenge" (2, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628154)

sorry but a PvP environment in any MMORPG doesn't hold a candle to the standard FPS environment. Any game where your skill can be overriden by someones accumulation of stuff by simply being in game longer isn't good PvP.

I could never understand the fascination with PvP in MMORPGs, let alone "white servers" where people go PvP on a whim, till I realized they don't want a challenge, they want to win. "Real challenge" - sheesh, if they wanted one they wouldn't be doing PvP in a MMORPG!

As far as Eve goes, yeah its great if you been in there forever, but new players aren't going to be much more than cannon fodder.

Obviously more people prefer WOW than Eve, so where's the desire for a "real challenge"?

Re:I guess they don't want a "challenge" (1)

PinkFluid (23536) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628414)

Guild Wars certainly gives you the adrenaline rush a FPS game, although it is closer to a MMORPG than to a FPS. And no, you don't need to accumulate stuff, you just create a PvP char, unlock skills and you're ready to jump into action...

Re:I guess they don't want a "challenge" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628416)

As far as Eve goes, yeah its great if you been in there forever, but new players aren't going to be much more than cannon fodder.


Tell that to Goonswarm. 98% of the Alliance is less than a year old and they just wiped out three other Alliances.

Re:I guess they don't want a "challenge" (2, Insightful)

lordsilence (682367) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628552)

Uhm... New players can compete with old players by specialization. What's great about eve is that you dont need to "accumulate" lots of stuff to compete. The more items and more expensive stuff you bring, only means that you'll lose more when you get shot down. It's all about risk vs reward in EVE. WoW has more users cause they have bigger marketing teams, spell Diablo, Warcraft etc.. It's also the game where all is really about leveling, more leveling, then accumulating the best gear which you never risk losing. It's not a game of minds like EVE is, it's a game of who can spend the most time online to grind in dungeons. As my first post said... Want a challange? Try Eve online. It's not an easy game, but it's well worth it if you get into it.

Eve is different (1)

Lonewolf666 (259450) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629004)

Eve is different by being more like a strategy game where you control one of many ships. Think multiplayer Homeworld where your corp (guild) makes up the pilots of the fleet. Also, it is like paper-scissors-stone in the choice of equipment. Know your enemy, bring the right stuff and you might be able to wipe the floor with the opposition.

Re:Sorry but... (2, Informative)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628364)

World of Warcraft is simply a pretty world where all players are pampered all along the way...
If you're looking for a real challange, try out EVE Online at http://www.eve-online.com/ [eve-online.com] [eve-online.com] .
You can also visit my eve-related blog at http://www.eve-pirate.com/ [eve-pirate.com] [eve-pirate.com] :)


I would, but I'm reading this thread while waiting for today's extended downtime to be over...thanks so much for actually pointing that out to me :P

Re:Sorry but... (1)

Binestar (28861) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628496)

I'm not particularly looking for a challenge. I'm looking to have fun and relax.

Re:Sorry but... (1)

Jzor (982679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628776)

You can do that too. EVE doesn't have to be challenging if you don't want it to be.

You can go mining and relax alone or in a group in some asteroid belt somewhere. The only challenge you'll face there is an occasional wave of a few pirates spawning and attacking you.
You can run trade routes between systems or regions and enjoy the beautiful scenery the universe provides.
There are many things you can do that are easy and not very challenging in EVE. And there are just as many, if not more that are challenging. Try out the 14-day trial, you might enjoy it.

Re:Sorry but... (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629040)

Eve is as boring as hell. They claim x thousand people playing it but I played it for a month and met *nobody* except a few bots. Plus the quests are lame - all take X to planet Y and speak to Z.

Re:Sorry but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628538)

Oh dear, do I sense a geek brawl coming? Oh the humanity!

Re:Sorry but... (1)

Nunzionuk (1051924) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628628)

I 100% agree with you! I gave up wow after 11 months of boring questing and instant running with my guild. Eve-Online has so much more depth to it! And i also read your blog already!! its amazing :)

Re:Sorry but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628938)

Playing Eve is like watching a screen saver.

Gender observation. (5, Funny)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628074)

For the first time ever, World of Warcraft players meet in public. In real life. This allowed us to collect some interesting data about the demographics. Out of nearly 50 people standing around the EB Games where I picked up my copy, I think four were girls. Just saying. Something to think about next time you /flirt.

Re:Gender observation. (5, Funny)

mfender9 (725994) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628282)

Out of nearly 50 people standing around the EB Games where I picked up my copy, I think four were girls.

If you only think they were girls, then I'm not terribly excited about them.

Re:Gender observation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17629140)

Probably there were more than four girls, but the rest looked indistinguishable from the unwashed long-hair guys next to them.

Re:Gender observation. (1)

Attrition_cp (888039) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628312)

Thats not entirely true, some were girls who look deceptively like guys.

Re:Gender observation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628326)

ha! This is so true it's not funny. I was standing there, pondering what ratio of horde vs alliance we had outside our gamestop. I swear I saw 'the guy' from south park there too... lawlz

Re:Gender observation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628342)

Most women online are men in disguise. What's new?

Re:Gender observation. (2, Insightful)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628498)

It's just a thought, but maybe a lot of the female players didn't care enough to queue for it, or pre-ordered online (which is what I did, got it when I woke up this morning, means I missed the first 8 hours of the expansion being live, like, the pain, how will I cope)...

Re:Gender observation. (1)

cecille (583022) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629240)

My boyfriend is going to get this afternoon. Then, when I get home, everything will be installed and ready. That's the way to do it.

Seriously, though, I actually don't know too many people who play, but of the group of us that do, about half are girls. It's been a long time since I've seen that split. Clearly that

Re:Gender observation. (5, Funny)

Seng (697556) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629180)

I decided, just for fun, to run down to the local retailer to grab my copy (hell, they shut the servers down for the update just in time for me to get there at midnight!).

I was a little surprised... Or maybe I shouldn't have been.

The people standing behind me were SO obviously methheads (gaunt face, bleeding gums, rotting out teeth). There was one kid that was about 12 in there with his mother picking up a copy (wtf? On a school night? I hope to hell when my daughter's 12 I never lose my intelligence and find myself buying a game at 12 midnight with her on a school night!)

The rest of the people were semi-normal - but about half of those looked like they could've used some personal hygiene lessons *grin*.

I'm thinking it was the horde release location...

Finally.. (5, Interesting)

zyl0x (987342) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628158)

..a new StarCraft game. It's been a while since I've seen anything that isn't WarCraft-related come out of that company. I know I'm not the only one that's eagerly awaiting more SC news.

Re:Finally.. (1)

airhed13 (732958) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628194)

I hope it's more innovative than yet another RTS. I'm getting awfully bored with micromanage/clickfest games from Blizzard.

Re:Finally.. (1)

Puff of Logic (895805) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628508)

I hope it's more innovative than yet another RTS. I'm getting awfully bored with micromanage/clickfest games from Blizzard.
Agreed. However, I was thinking about this earlier and concluded that I'd actually be satisfied with a remake of Starcraft, but with Company of Heroes resolution. Normally I'm the first guy to raise my fist in the air and cry for substance over graphics, but CoH really knocked me on my ass as an example of just how awesome an RTS can be. Imagining Starcraft looking as detailed (and with the UI advancements we've made through the years) is a happy thought indeed. So sure, I'd love to see an innovative new Starcraft title released, but at this point I'd be overjoyed with just an update!

Re:Finally.. (1)

ztransform (929641) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628242)

Starcraft was one of the last games I truly enjoyed playing a lot. I would really welcome a new one.

Re:Finally.. (2, Interesting)

Atheose (932144) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628764)

Starcraft is the one game that I still play a few times a month, even after it's been out this long. Considering I paid ~$80 for over 9 years of entertainment, I would say it's the greatest game I've ever bought.

Best line from the review: (3, Insightful)

guysmilee (720583) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628234)

"All in all, this is more of the same ... "

I have to tell you all that I absolutely hate this game. It is annoying and tedious ... and no I don't wanna join your bloody guild!

Re:Best line from the review: (1)

oftencloudy (1047554) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628928)

This is exactly why it seems many people (myself included) realized it was time to get out. No you cannot have my money blizzard, no i won't shell out for a new expansion just to sit in queues, and no I won't be wasting any more time grinding through the exact same slog again and again.

By the second time I got to 60 I was tired and it was no longer fun. Speaking of which, anyone looking to buy an account?

Dongles? DONGLES? (1)

RonaldReagan (112997) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628252)

With a dongle, never will I endure another restless night, worrying that my female orc warrior is being played by another man.

Starcraft 2 (1)

Daveznet (789744) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628254)

There are a lot of rumblings around the Starcraft gaming community about Starcraft 2. ahref=http://sc.gosugamers.net/news.php?id=5522/re l=url2html-31115 [slashdot.org] http://sc.gosugamers.net/news.php? id=5522/> There is also an audio file of a top Counter strike tournament director speaking about Starcraft 2. ahref=http://zanno.oddwebsite.com/cevofull.mp3/rel =url2html-31115 [slashdot.org] http://zanno.oddwebsite.com/cevoful l.mp3/> (Around 7:30 into the file). IMHO I wouldn't want Starcraft 2 to come out as I still play Starcraft Broodwar actively and I think it is perfect in every way.

Re:Starcraft 2 (1)

philj (13777) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628530)

Would a World Of Starcraft work?

Re:Starcraft 2 (1)

Living WTF (838448) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628918)

Would a World Of Starcraft work?

If they just change the models / textures / quests but the overall gameplay stays the same I don't think this will work. There would probably some WoW users switching to WoS, but I don't think their overall player base would grow much.

If they have new ideas and some of those are any good, it could work. I'd give it a different name though, "StarCraft Universe" for example.

Re:Starcraft 2 (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629226)

Well, unlike Warcraft, the structure of the factions is different. There will be more than 2 factions but there are however fewer races. There may be more politics and intrigue as each race may team up with another for certain goals as they did in Starcraft and Brood Wars. There are only 3 factions so far. The Xel N'aga may or may not make it into the game.

Stop that (-1, Troll)

kitsunewarlock (971818) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628286)

It's not .1 percent of the planet. That 8 million number is for publicity: even Blizzard knows that, given the high density of players who have quit, quit and returned with a new account, got banned, were gold-farmers (they get like a new account a day and realm-spam now...) or just people with more than 1 account (not commonplace, but not too rare). How many active players do you have currently after that? Probably around 3 million...but that's just a guess.

Re:Stop that (3, Informative)

kitsunewarlock (971818) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628458)

Never mind, I was wrong: World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules.

Notice the Griping (1)

skorch (906936) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628318)

I noticed that most of the posts in this are griping about how much they hate WoW or how glad they are to have kicked the habit. I have a feeling that's because everyone else is playing Wow.

.1% of earth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628332)

Its more like .001%....

8 million players vs 6 billion people... not .1%

Re:.1% of earth? (5, Insightful)

richdun (672214) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628412)

No, he had it right - 8,000,000/6,000,000,000 = 0.0013333... or about 0.1%

Blizzard owns you (1)

usmdesigner (1049806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628350)

23 comments of people saying they hate this game and will never play it. 23 people that are working towards lvl 61

Re:Blizzard owns you (2, Insightful)

MaximvsG (611212) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628446)

The second I get home from work, I'll be working on Leveling to 60. Just thinking of all the XP I could have had at 60 running instances, at least now we'll get XP for them.. My rest bar better be blue all the way to 61.

'Security Dongles' (3, Interesting)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628368)

(Slashdot won't show me the reply links on replies now... So I'm starting a new post. Firefox2/Linux, btw.)

So, is this the first time in the history of dongles that the 'security' provided by the dongle is for the USER and not the company? -boggle-

I actually think this is a great idea, IF it's optional. Example:

You buy New-RPG. You install New-RPG and plug in the dongle. At that point, you have the option to create a username and password, or use the dongle as your authentication mechanism. Later, if you want to change, you simply insert the dongle and go to the config and change it. (Needed to enable AND disable, for obvious reasons.)

If (huge IF) I ever write an online game, I'm going to seriously consider this. I tend towards 'free' games, so I'd probably make it write the authentication to a USB drive.

Thoughts: Lost/broken USB drive? Any backup means I can think of is another backdoor for a 'hacker'. (I use that term loosely.)
Copied auth data? Use the hardware ID of the USB drive as part of the auth?
Hacked executable to send any auth data they wish? Troublesome.

At any rate, I'm astonished at the thought of a dongle actually protecting the user instead of the company.

Re:'Security Dongles' (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628542)

That's a really stupid way to do things. The whole point of adding the dongle is to create a two-factor authentication mechanism. Making the dongle optional invalidates the entire point. And in your scheme, if you lose the dongle, you are screwed if you were using it instead of username/password.

Re:'Security Dongles' (1)

arkanes (521690) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628810)

It's not new by any means. Businesses have been using RSA tokens for VPN access, and dial-up before that, for years. In (at least some parts of) Europe, online banking uses tokens. I think what's throwing you here is that they're calling them dongles and not tokens. A game using it is something new, though, and I respect Blizzard for looking at ways to try to mitigate the growing account hacking problem.

Stupid WoW.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17628504)

0.1% of the Earth's population can't all be wrong.

Yes they can. Final Fantasy XI > WoW and you all know it.

it's amazing (1)

Mowie_X (600765) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628516)

The number of people still playing Starcraft. It's still played quite often at Lan parties I go to.

Burning Crusade flu? (5, Funny)

galfridus73 (873250) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628594)

Gotta love it...

I have two employees, both WoW players, who are out today with "the flu" (of course they both picked up their copies of BC at midnight and didn't come down with their illness until 4 or 5am...). ;)

Anyone else have a similar situation?

Re:Burning Crusade flu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17629064)

Yea but at 5am I logged out and went to work. Not that calling in sick did not cross my mind.

Re:Burning Crusade flu? (1)

johnashby (819655) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629176)

If they're good, productive employees: let them have their fun. If they're borderline: write them up. It's obvious why they stayed out, you're no idiot. The next thing to watch for is Monday...if they don't make it in Monday, you have problems.

Somehow, I just don't care (1, Redundant)

RzUpAnmsCwrds (262647) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628648)

I have nothing against WOW players, current or past. I have, in fact, played WOW more than any other video game, ever - more than 500 hours, which puts me in the "semi-serious" category.

But Burning Crusade doesn't really interest me at all.

I've done PvP, I've done raid instances (cleared MC a bunch of times and some BWL and AQ20), and I've explored pretty much everything that there is in the game.

We got PvP, battlegrounds, and countless minor and major functionality changes in patches 1.1-2.0. Most of the high-end instances in the game (ZG, BWL, AQ20, AQ40) were added after release, too.

So, what makes BC worth $30? We get jewelcrafting, socketed items, and flying mounts (only in the outlands). Not bad for a content patch (or even two), but an expansion that's been in the works for 2 years and that we have to pay for? That's downright weak.

There's only so much WoW you can play before the game just gets boring. Adding new content doesn't fix that - you haven't really changed the game at all. It's like adding new tracks or courses to a racing game: nice, but, at the end of the day, I'm still going to go play something else.

diablo 3 ! (1, Interesting)

polar red (215081) | more than 7 years ago | (#17628894)

how much longer ????

beginning of the end? (1)

freedom_surfer (203272) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629010)

Everquest had paid expansions to no end...it got to the point that users felt cheated as most added content was beyond a casual players reach, but the expansion was needed because of UI and other in game improvements. If you didn't upgrade, soon you were a bane to other players because you didn't have this guild UI feature or that map. In addition, the sheer number of expansions put a financial barrier up to new blood. The number of new players dropped dramatically and the need to squeeze more from revenue of expansions increased. Also, the world became so big, that you had trouble finding people in large expanses of the game. It was a viscious cycle that resulted in my wife and myself leaving the game for good.

I understand they need to fund the creation of new content...however, I also understand that WoW is one of the largest revenue generating games in history. They have the money to pay for new content. Period.

Hacked Account - Who's Fault? (1)

dmcooper (899820) | more than 7 years ago | (#17629138)

I still haven't reclaimed my account. Someone got a hold of it, charged it with playing cards and power leveled a bunch of characters until getting my account perma-banned for using '3rd party hacks.'

This was after I left the account dormant for a month or so. Another member of my guild had the same thing happen, and his characters were deleted as well. No account-sharing going on, and my password was not one that would be guessed, and as I don't visit any of the WoW fan-sites or things like Allahkazzam or whatever I didn't pick up any trojans. I'm thinking Blizzard has a vulnerability on their end, and the dongle would simply not solve the issue of stolen accounts.

I had WoW uninstalled, and was using a new computer so had not logged in for a bit - nor had anything on my computer to indicate that I was a WoW player when my account was hacked.

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