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Two Stargate SG1 Films Announced

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the good-for-them dept.

Sci-Fi 181

Presence2 noted that MGM announced that the Stargate franchise will migrate to the big screen, carrying with it the ending of the last two season's Ori plot-line. The plot summaries listed in the article don't seem like anything surprising... one even has a wacky time-line slip-up plot. Very original for scifi ;) I'll still watch it.

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Excellant (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17645510)

Movies based on a TV show based on a movie. What'll they think of next?

Re:Excellant (1)

jackharrer (972403) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645642)

Films based on games... Ooops, that happened already.

Re:Excellant (1)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645896)

You mean like Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game? It exists...

Re:Excellent (5, Funny)

MountainMan101 (714389) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645656)

A spell checker in a web browser?

Re:Excellent (1, Funny)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646176)

So why wood ewe think a spiel chucker can help quality of posts? Don't be such a podiatrist. Their will still be grammar things rang.

Re:Excellent (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17646590)

The spell checker in Firefox is only active in textarea inputs, not in text inputs like the subject of a slashdot post. So what was your point?

CrankyOldFart

Re:Excellant (0, Redundant)

geeber (520231) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645950)

Movies based on a TV show based on a movie. What'll they think of next?

Video games based on movies based on a TV show based on a movie.

Re:Excellant (3, Insightful)

FrostyCoolSlug (766239) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646036)

As stupid as that may sound, it seems to be the only way in which SG1 can continue. Due to their contract with SciFi, they can't resume the show on another network / channel after they got axed.

One of the problems they have, is that Stargate still has an impressive fanbase, which really can't just be told "No more for you", so rather than finishing the SG1 storyline, they have opted to move it to TV (or Direct to DVD) Movies.

I personally think it's a shame it ended up this way, although it wont stop me watching, It's a great show with a great cast.

What'll they think of next? (1)

illegalcortex (1007791) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646766)

How about a movie based on a play based on a movie about a play?

Re:What'll they think of next? (1)

kzinti (9651) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646966)

Hmm... The Producers?

Re:What'll they think of next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17647260)

If you're referring to The Producers, that would be a movie based on a musical based on a movie about a musical based on a play.

Re:Excellant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17647520)

How about a TV show based on a movie based on a TV show? (Star Trek:TNG anyone?)

Oh noes. Time has changed. (-1, Redundant)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645534)

"Stargate: Continuum"

While SG-1 attends the execution of Ba'al, the last of the goa'uld system lords, Teal'c and Vala inexplicably disappear into thin air. Carter, Daniel and Mitchell race back to a world where history has been changed: the Stargate program has been erased from the timeline. As they try to convince the authorities what's happened, a fleet of goa'uld motherships arrives in orbit, led by Ba'al, his queen, Katesh, (Vala) and his first prime, Teal'c. SG-1 must find the Stargate and set things right before the world is enslaved by the goa'uld.


I think I've seen this one before.

Re:Oh noes. Time has changed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17645796)

"Stargate: The Ark of Truth"

Archeologist goes off to find ark to destroy evil army

I think I've seen this one before.

Big Screen?? (5, Informative)

Nishal (636649) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645536)

It was my understanding these were gonna be straight to dvd, maybe even HD or Blue Ray.. Either way i will still watch em...

Re:Big Screen?? (1)

johanw (1001493) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645698)

And I hope that they release them this time in Europe at the same time as in the USA. Otherwise I'll just download them and let them complain about poor sales.

Re:Big Screen?? (1)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645858)

And I hope that they release them this time in Europe at the same time as in the USA. Otherwise I'll just download them and let them complain about poor sales.

Don't worry, that will happen. Every major American studio film gets released in Europe at the same time as in the USA or at most 2 weeks later for exactly this reason.

Re:Big Screen?? (2, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647264)

Yesterday I saw a "comming soon in theaters" advertisement on Dutch TV for "Nacho Libre". I think "Thank you for smoking" has yet to be released as well.

Only the biggest movies (Star Wars, LOTR) are released in Europe with only a few weeks delay, the rest will typically trail by a number of months.

I can't imagine any good reason for this; translation couldn't possibly be so time consuming (no voice sync in the Netherlands, just subtitles), and all it'll do is push people towards illegal download services.

Re:Big Screen?? (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647356)

It goes both ways. I like to look in the independent or foreign film category on apple trailers. I'll get really interested in a movie to find out that it's not out in the US for another few months. Then I hit the torrent sites and find the DVDRip. Two that I remember clearly are Showlin Soccer and Shaun of the Dead.

Re:Big Screen?? (4, Funny)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647364)

No one is so desperate for entertainment that they'd stoop to downloading "Nacho Libre" illegally.

Re:Big Screen?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17648398)

I did, does that fit me in your category?

Re:Big Screen?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17646070)

Blu-Ray? Damn!

I guess that rules out any Amanda Tapping nude scenes.

Re:Big Screen?? (1)

theStorminMormon (883615) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647452)

It was my understanding these were gonna be straight to dvd

I really, fervently hope so. Whatever it takes to keep these "films" (and I use the term loosely) away from mainstream cinemas. As if we need to give studios one more reason to demonstrate that sci-fi fans will watch anything, no matter how cheesey. This in turns removes any incentive to make good sci-fi, which further contributes to the (accurate) stereotype that sci-fi and art generally don't belong in the same sentence, which further drives the mainstream away from these releases, which further drains the funding available to make decent sci-fi (e.g. "Children of Men"), which further contributes to (you guessed it) Stargate. Yay.

I'm not just trying to troll. I love sci-fi. But I can't stand the fact that a lot of sci-fi fans can't tell the difference, for example, between "Star Wars: Roque Squadron 11", "Star Trek: Book #3423", and "Dune". The same thing happens in movies, and the result? Wing Commander. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0131646/)

Because sci-fi fans are willing to accept any old slop with aliens and lasers we get to watch "Stargate" instead of something with quality (like "Firefly"). I've tried more times than I can count to get into Stargate, but it has essentially the same production values as "Hercules" and "Xena: The Warrior Princess". It's enough to make an old-school sci-fi fan cry.

-stormin

Old News? (5, Informative)

FrostyCoolSlug (766239) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645548)

Since then, MGM have confirmed that they hope to continuing SG1 as Ongoing Movies [gateworld.net] instead of a season 11. Hopefully this means the ongoing success of Stargate, and the cast.

Re:Old News? (4, Interesting)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646394)

I'm glad they're stopping with season 10. I love stargate, but they have run it for too long now, and it's not quite as good as it once was.

Better for there to be movies in the main franchise, so we can continue enjoying it without seeing it turn like X-files, with no end in sight and ever weakening storylines.

This new spin off series thing might be entertaining, so long as they don't 'enterprise' it and make everyone hate it, just like Crusade did to Babylon 5, what a horror that was.

Can they kill Vala? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17645640)

That actress wasn't so annoying in farscape, I'd enjoy seeing the Vala character die. Even the guy out of farscape manages to be annoying in SG1, they should kill his character off too. When viewers would enjoy seeing 2 lead characters brutally dismembered, you can be sure it was a great white they jumped.

Re:Can they kill Vala? (0)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645706)

Yeah, at the end of the series they should disintegrate the both of them. That'd be something different!

What?

Re:Can they kill Vala? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17645942)

How about the rest of the SG1 team get real with Vala?

Carter: The truth is, we've never really liked you.
Daniel: You have no idea how I've been stretched as an actor.
Teal'c: Indeed, I believe Dr Jackson has a parting gift for you.
Daniel: It's actually from us all. (hands Vala object)
Vala: What is it, a weapon?
Daniel: Of sorts, it's a device the ancients kept locked away.
Carter: The ancients called it the dildo of death.
O'Neil: With story lines like this, I'd still be in the series.

Re:Can they kill Vala? (3, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646166)

You know, that's not quite what I expected Excalibur to look like...

So let me get this straight. (1)

shirizaki (994008) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645654)

Movie: released in theaters, moderate success. Sequel: Straight to video, parlayed into a successful series. Series: Enjoys a 10 year run Movies 2 & 3: Released BACK into theaters


Wow, you can't even hope for a rollercoaster with so many twists and turns. It's like M. Night Shyamalan put the Stargate franchise in a movie of itself.

What a twist!

Re:So let me get this straight. (3, Informative)

ParraCida (1018494) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645748)

Actually, the plan is to release these movies directly to DVD, so they won't be in theaters at all.

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 7 years ago | (#17648168)

That's pretty lame. These would have been the first movies I'd actually bother to go to a theater to see since the LOTR trilogy.

*sigh*

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

geeber (520231) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646140)

What a twist!

Not really. Mostly it just emphasizes how few new ideas Hollywood really has.

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

BadERA (107121) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646320)

Sequel? What sequel? The original movie, not a sequel, was parlayed into the series on Showtime for the first five seasons, then picked up for syndication by ... for some reason I want to say ABC, but NBC makes more sense, (though I think Showtime is owned by CBS?) who played it late night until it was pawned off on SciFi, where it enjoyed booming success. The first sequel movie will be one of the two discussed here ...

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

shirizaki (994008) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646442)

There was a Stargate SG1 movie released. Maybe it was the first few episodes put into movie and released. I just assumed they made a sequel movie then turned it into a movie. Sry.

But what a twist!

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646714)

I think your referring to "Independence Day"

They were directed and written by the same people.

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

BadERA (107121) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647126)

Mmmmmm ... sorry ... but not so much. There has been no SG1 specific movie. Stargate the series, wherein SG1 first existed, grew out of the original movie's (Stargate) storyline, it picks up a year or so after the movie ... there have been public plans in the works for a movie for at least 6 months now, but no movie has been released to date that is SG1 specific.

Re:So let me get this straight. (2, Insightful)

Dark_Lord_Prime (899914) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647248)

The "SG1 movie" was the pilot episode (originally aired on Showtime), thrown onto a DVD.

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646704)

Syndicated programs are generally picked up at a local level, so it may well have been ABC and then NBC in your market, and CBS in other markets, etc, etc. It has played on CBS and Fox here. Atlantis is currently playing, one season behind SciFi, on the local Fox affiliate.

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646692)

It's like M. Night Shyamalan put the Stargate franchise in a movie of itself. Don't you mean the Wormhole X-treme franchise?

Re:So let me get this straight. (1)

Lord Apathy (584315) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647992)

M. Night Shyamalan

If Shyamalan did it, it would be incredibly dark with a real suspenseful with the very interesting plot line. Unfortunately there would be something so extremely stupid that it would make the movie totally unbelievable. It would be so bad that they would lampoon it on on television and movies for years to come.

Something, like I don't know, the aliens being allergic to water so they come to a planet with a shit load of water to do their shit. That or it would just suck out right.

Yawn @ second movie (0, Redundant)

ParraCida (1018494) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645708)

Oh no! Time travel and alternate realities for the second movie. How strikingly original, how ever did they come up with that? Next you'll be telling me that they will use violence and guns to achieve their goals and that the heroes will come out on top through great personal sacrifice! Man, after 10 years the writers of SG-1 seem to have completely lost the ability to tell an original and engaging story.

Just to offset that previous comment, I am actually a fan of SG-1 and quite like the current story line. I'm just really sick of time travel and alternate reality crap. It's been done to death, hell, even season 8 of SG-1 ended with that crap. It sucks, leave it be. For the love of god STOP IT.

Re:Yawn @ second movie (5, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645844)

I'm just really sick of time travel and alternate reality crap. It's been done to death

Hey, that could work! Death goes back in time to help his younger self, and ends up playing a guitar solo at the big dance. Or maybe Death gets to see a nice little town at Christmas where Death never happened? A whole series of Time Travel done to Death shows!

Re:Yawn @ second movie (1)

Mercano (826132) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647818)

I am debating if you are intentionally alluding to Soul Music and Hogsfather (it's a weak link, granted), or its just coincidence. Or has Terry Pratchett done Death to death?

Re:Yawn @ second movie (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17648320)

The first one was a Back to the Future/Soul Music cross, but the second one was It's a Wonderful Life. (pterry didn't invent Death [wikipedia.org] , of course. [wikipedia.org] )

Re:Yawn @ second movie (1)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647824)

Death meeting himself would be pointless. He can remember the future.

Re:Yawn @ second movie (1)

iphayd (170761) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647874)

>A whole series of Time Travel done to Death shows!

Hey! They could even cast that guy that played the captain on Enterprise as Death! ;P

1st one good idea, 2nd one bad idea (2, Interesting)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645728)

A final movie to finish off the series would be a great move. 2-2.5 hours of non-stop sci fi action, that finally ends with the Ori facing defeat. I mean, after this point, there's no returning to the story. It's over, all conceivable bad guys that could be a threat are dead. Even the wraith are finished as they'd be hopelessly outgunned technologically by a race far more willing to wipe them out. The second one just reminds me of a last ditch effort to revive some of the time traveling storylines from the series. Bad, bad move. It'll be at best anti-climactic at that point.

Re:1st one good idea, 2nd one bad idea (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646204)

Agreed, the first one looks real good... I can't wait.

I really don't even want to think about watching the second one. That is painful enough... But to actually watch it..

oh god! I'm thinking about it... *cringe*

Re:1st one good idea, 2nd one bad idea (1)

MasterPoof (876056) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647118)

I agree, but we are talking about the formerly #1 show on Sci-Fi channel (now occupied by BSG), but 2 movies ? Come on, that reeks of "milking the cash cow dry". Granted, I thought the show should have ended 2 seasons ago with the defeat of the Replicators, but they've at least developed the Ori in a decent fashion (plus they got Morena Baccarin [from Firefly] for Adria, a definite plus).

Re:1st one good idea, 2nd one bad idea (2, Funny)

forgotten_my_nick (802929) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647528)

> all conceivable bad guys that could be a threat are dead

Ascended wraith Prior inhabited by gould?

Re:1st one good idea, 2nd one bad idea (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 7 years ago | (#17648166)


Ascended replicator wraith prior inhabited by a goa'uld would be better, don't you think? =)

Plot Synopsis (4, Funny)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645760)

Movie 1: The evil aliens do something and one or more of the team are put in jeopardy. The rest of the team accomplishes a harrowing rescue and then the commander says something moderately amusing just before the end credits. Movie 2: The team goes to another planet that looks suprisingly like Vancouver and then some evil aliens separate one or more of them and the others accomplish a harrowing rescue. Then the commander says something moderately amusing just before Teal'c raises his eyebrow in disbelief.

Re:Plot Synopsis (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646596)

Do you mean that Vancouver isn't another planet? I'd been hoping to see the great White Spot...

Re:Plot Synopsis (2)

dargon (105684) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646886)

Vancouver no, but Kelowna sure is ;)

Stargate: The Ark of Truth (0)

Digitus1337 (671442) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645828)

Because Stargate wasn't taking enough flak for being too much like Indiana Jones.

Re:Stargate: The Ark of Truth (1)

Architect_sasyr (938685) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646120)

You missed the time loop idea...

Stargate: The temple of Stargate: The temple of Stargate: The temple of...

Re:Stargate: The Ark of Truth (1)

Vitriol+Angst (458300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647404)

I know, they could re-visit that time loop episode, because, theoretically, if an event loops once -- it loops forever at least in alternate dimensions. So the loop has to be "cut out" becuase it is taking up a lot of cycles amongst the different universes. Everything starts slowing down, so they must risk the device that speeds everyone up.

In fact, they could bring clips from every episode into the movie, because they "time loop" was creating a rare, time loop black hole, because the weight of the redundancy was drawing time into itself -- wasting time everywhere. As this time-suckage/wasting intensifies, and the flash-back sequences get shorter and faster, O'Neil or the new guy will say some gallows humor that is moderately funny, and they will rescue a team member in a harrowing and ill conceived plan.

The bonus is, they could keep doing this over and over (it's a time loop) and re-solve the same plot just by changing catch phrases and the costumes of bad guys.

Maybe throw in something where those invisible people are being attacked by simple yet efficient machines that construct dangerous weapons and take over their ships -- and only the primitive brute force of machine guns can damage them, requiring them to contact SG1 to save their race.

>> I think I've watched too much Stargate.

Re:Stargate: The Ark of Truth (1)

Criterion (51515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647848)

The DOS attack of time. I like it :).

first movie was good (-1, Redundant)

mastershake_phd (1050150) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645830)

the first movie was good. Never seen the series.

Movie to Series ... to Movie (0, Redundant)

zaydana (729943) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645860)

So let me get this straight. Stargate started as a movie. Because it did quite well, the execs at whatever company had this bright idea:

"Hey, how about we make this a series?"

10 Seasons later, the execs in charge of whatever studio notice that stargate is still not doing bad. Of course, somebody has this brilliant idea:

"Gee, stargate would really suit a movie format. Why didn't anybody think of that before? Lets make a movie out of it!"

...

*cry*

Re:Movie to Series ... to Movie (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646100)

Redundant? The article text talked as though the original movie never existed...

Re:Movie to Series ... to Movie (1)

Vitriol+Angst (458300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647442)

Yes, and even more depressing is, that this bright genius will get paid many times more than you and I put together.

hmm (5, Interesting)

mastershake_phd (1050150) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645876)

Devlin(writer of original movie) has, however, stated that he plans to write his own sequel to Stargate separately to its spin-offs, providing two versions of the continuing story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate [wikipedia.org]

Re:hmm (1)

dilvish_the_damned (167205) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647584)

Devlin(writer of original movie) has, however, stated that he plans to write his own sequel to Stargate separately to its spin-offs, providing two versions of the continuing story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate [wikipedia.org]

Homer - "hmmm, Highlander.... [slobber]"

Actually, they're TV movies, not Cinema movies. (4, Informative)

MROD (101561) | more than 7 years ago | (#17645920)

The actual announcment of these films was a few months back and they're going to be TV movies for the SciFi channel. For more details browse ISN [isnnews.net] .

Bring back Jack (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17645930)

IMHO Jack O' Neill (Richard Dean Anderson) made Stargate SG-1 what it was. Everything that's been done since the actor's departure from the show as a regular cast member just rings hollow to me.

Maybe I'm just slow to embrace change, after all, I have the same complaint about the new Doctor Who seasons (Eccleston vs. Tennant)

Re:Bring back Jack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17646006)

Yeah, Anderson was the man. Atlantis showed promise but they turned it into some hallmark channel style crap like charmed or something.

Re:Bring back Jack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17646358)

They killed (or, rather, are in the process of killing) off O'Neill, though. Remember the season cliff-hanger for Atlantis? It ended with everyone on Atlantis being killed by the Replicators, and that included annoying-guy-played-by-the-doctor-from-Voyager and O'Neill.

So O'Neill won't be coming back again. He's toast.

Re:Bring back Jack (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646732)

SPOILER WARNING!

A cliffhanger two-parter, and then the Reality Reset button gets pushed. Zero net effect except for a couple extra ZPMs (to make up for the one lost in the parallel universe Reality Reset episode).

Re:Bring back Jack (1)

Vitriol+Angst (458300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647480)

Maybe I'm just slow to embrace change, after all, I have the same complaint about the new Doctor Who seasons (Eccleston vs. Tennant)

>> That's the whole charm of the Dr. Who franchise... you get to complain that the current actor is a pale imitation of the previous actor.
Personally, I like the guy with the big scarf -- the rest are just poor imitations.

Re:Bring back Jack (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647734)

"Personally, I like the guy with the big scarf -- the rest are just poor imitations."

That is an interesting plot twist. The three doctors who preceeded the "the guy with the big scarf" actually travelled forward in time to see the 4th Doctor so they could then imitate him. Too bad they did an abysmal job of imitation. I guess the 2nd one came closest but I get the idea that the 1st and 3rd didn't even try.

Personally, I like all of them except for the rather abysmal 7th Doctor but that was more for my deeply felt hatred of Mel and Ace.

The last 2 seasons (0)

stretch0611 (603238) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646030)

As far as I am concerned Stargate SG1 "jumped the shark" when Annubis was killed. Since then the show has been in decline. When Vala joined the cast, she was so annoying that I knew that the end was near. With the last two seasons and the major cast changes(and lackluster interest in Atlantis), I completely stopped watching all Stargate. I have no interest in the future movies because I never liked the shows since the Ori came to be.

Re:The last 2 seasons (1)

ptlis (772434) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646478)

As far as I am concerned Stargate SG1 "jumped the shark" when Annubis was killed.

I can't help but agree with you; there have been some good episodes of SG1 after that point (most of season 8's conclusion was decent enough), but season 9 & 10 have been dire overall - the Ori as an enemy are just uninteresting. However, I disagree strongly with you about Atlantis - at first I was reluctant to even watch it and when I did start watching the first few episodes I did so with a very strong bias against it, however the bias was unwarranted and in fact Atlantis is the only thing that has been maintaining my interest in the Stargate franchise as of late. Though there are parallels that can be drawn between the main Atlantis and SG1 casts there are more than enough differences in terms of personality and history to keep my interest in them. I only hope that with the release of these two movies they finally bury SG1 :/

Re:The last 2 seasons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17647036)

I was really enjoying pretty much all of Stargate until SciFi inexplicably stopped showing it about a year ago. This was about the time they were running alot of their sub-par "Giant $MONSTERTYPE" movies and wrestling. Fortunately, I've picked up most of the DVDs, so SciFi can continue to gut itself and rot in hell.

Re:The last 2 seasons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17646526)

Maybe not everyone has the same opinion. Vala has made the show for me. Adding that missing humor element which was lost after Jack left the show.

Re:The last 2 seasons (1)

mmcgreal (259944) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646970)

I agree. I like Vala, Mitchell, and Atlantis. In fact, I actually prefer Atlantis. Although I will admit, I didn't start watching SG-1 until a few years ago. Don't know why I wasn't interested before, but since I found love for it, I've had a great time getting caught up. Condemning new developments seems petty to me. The production quality is much better now than it ever has been, and the plotlines are no more campy than they ever were, which is part of their charm.

Re:The last 2 seasons (1)

drrck (959788) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646792)

The real killer was when they brought in Cameron Mitchell as well as Vala. It was like I was watching Farscape http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187636/ [imdb.com] all over again!

Re:The last 2 seasons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17647090)

I must have missed something because I never understand how Jack Oneil was pulled out and some completely different character has been SG1's leader? And I can't agree more, I've lost interest in the series completely. I was collecting all the seasons' DVD sets, but I simply couldn't stand the changes I saw on TV in season 9. What happened? Would appreciate if someone can fill me in as to what happened that Oneil is no longer with SG1??

Re:The last 2 seasons (1)

HikingStick (878216) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646882)

I know "jumped the shark" has taken on a cultural context of decline, but did you realize that Happy Days actually posted better ratings after the episode in which the Fonz jumped the shark?

Not to mention... (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647304)

Not to mention using the phrase 'Jump the shark' is in itself 'jumping the shark'.

Re:The last 2 seasons (2, Interesting)

KillerBob (217953) | more than 7 years ago | (#17648030)

They'd been planning to end the series at the end of Season 6. Then it got renewed. And again. And again. The final death knell was supposed to be at the end of Season 8. You don't think that time travel episode back to ancient Egypt, and the end scene with SG1 enjoying some downtime at Jack's cottage had a certain reek of "last episode"? Atlantis was envisioned as a replacement for the series, not a parallel series of events.

Then to everybody's surprise, it got renewed. But they'd already defeated the Goa'uld, and had to come up with a new enemy. Hence the Ori. The reason it got cancelled after Season 10 was because of exactly what you're saying: people got bored with the Ori, or weren't able to suspend their disbelief, or were just tired of the franchise. But there's still a few loose ends at the end of Season 10 that they need to tie up. I doubt it should make it to the silver screen, but a direct-to-TV miniseries that ties out the series would be in good taste. There are still a lot of diehard fans out there who want some closure to the storyline.

As for your not liking Atlantis, that's personal preference. I found I really started to enjoy the series about halfway through Season 2, and there've been some *really* intelligent episodes later on. Download McKay and Mrs. Miller (3x08), for example.

Woo! (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646128)

Hooray for the continuing adventures of Captain Space MacGyver!

Re:Woo! (1)

Higman (83293) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647032)

Don't you mean General Space MacGyver?

Re:Woo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17647478)

its called " macgyver in egypt"

Ha! (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646184)

Presence2 noted that MGM announced that the Stargate franchise will migrate to the big screen

And end up failing miserably like every other sci-fi tv to big screen endeavour outside of Trek TOS?

While the original SG movie was pretty good the TV series just doesn't have the same energy to it. And what makes this even worse is that just about everything that has gone from a TV series to the big screen in sci-fi just seems to have the same feel as a very long episode of the TV series. Trek at least put a few years between it's TV series and motion picture release, maybe that was the key to Trek's theater success versus everyone else's failures. Even the Trek TNG films just seemed like long episodes to me.

Re:Ha! (3, Informative)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646268)

And end up failing miserably like every other sci-fi tv to big screen endeavour outside of Trek TOS?

I doubt it, since it seems atm that they'll either be direct-to-DVD or TV-only. Slashdot and the linked site are woefully behind, these movies have been known [gateworld.net] about for at least a few weeks now.

Re:Ha! (1)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647278)

Trek at least put a few years between it's TV series and motion picture release, maybe that was the key to Trek's theater success versus everyone else's failures. Even the Trek TNG films just seemed like long episodes to me.

Trek TOS only had three seasons before it was cancled, and remained in syndication. And actually there was a plan to have another trek series, StarTrek Mach 2 or some such, but star wars sort of encouraged NBC to not release another sci-fi series. The movie (The motion sickness) was based on the mach/phase II scripts. But regardless Trek is very much the Little Engine That Could... cancled, movied, and reserialed several times. To be honest, while I was disapointed that Enterprise was cancled, I think I've had my fill of trek.

Stargate on the otherhand, 10 straight seasons. That's up there with Happy Days, Jag, Friends, almost as many as M.A.S.H. It doesn't need any armchair quarterbacking, it's already successful. Even if the two movies fail, and Atlantis gets cancled, It's still worthy of a Smithsonian exhibit.

Re:Ha! (1)

Vitriol+Angst (458300) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647516)

Spoken like a person who hasn't seen Serenity.

Ori - greatest thing since sliced bread (1)

dino213b (949816) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646276)

It's all about the religious fundamentalism.

How else could you tie a Sci-Fi show to current events? "Enterprise" had nothing to link it to current events (with the exception of the terrorism episode) and it neatly failed. On the other hand, you have Stargate SG1 making a human to Sci-Fi connection: Religious fundamentalism, Crusades, Terrorism, Homicide Bombings (is that the latest "hip" P.C. name for a suicide bomber?) etc.

However, I am curious how they will translate this cultural clash into the big screen: The Sheep Picture [cardope.com]

Death knoll (1)

BadERA (107121) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646382)

The SG-1 story is played out. Season after season, it had grown repetitive -- defeat seemingly invincible evil empire of bad guys after impending doom scenario, wash, repeat. At first, despite being a hardcore sci fi buff, and enjoying the movie as an adolescent, I found the series campy, and almost unwatchable, even with RDA (old school MacGyver fan here too) in a leading role. A year or two into it, it finally grabbed my interest. The Go'auld plot line was original, I finally had a replacement for ST: TNG. Then along came the Replicators, and deja vu set in. The Ori were the final straw for me -- more all-powerful bad guys who, in 10-15 episodes, are suddenly not so all-powerful anymore. SG: Atlantis has been a disappointment as well. The franchise is beat, let this horse be dead in peace already.

Re:Death knoll (2, Insightful)

cowscows (103644) | more than 7 years ago | (#17648014)

The thing is, they have a plot device (the stargate), that makes just about any other plot feasible. While the longer story arcs are interesting, I've often more enjoyed the occasional one-off episodes that have no bearing on the continuity of the series.

Instead of epic battles between good and evil with the fate of the whole galaxy in the balance, how about just a group of explorers traveling to a planet that they know nothing about. Maybe it takes an episode or two to tell the whole story, but whatever happens doesn't have to fit into some larger arc. The long-term development happens more within the characters themselves than within the plot-line of the fictional universe. I know that serial episodes with lots of twists and cliffhangers are all the rage right now, but that's not the only way to run a show.

If I want to watch a show about fancy new technologies being invented at the last minute to save the day, there are years of star trek I can go through. Stargate is much more interesting when they don't try to copy that, and instead when they show a group of people from our time and culture exploring weird things, and interacting with stuff they don't understand.

Stargate: the movie (1)

lukestuts (731515) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646626)

Hasn't this been done already?

Heh (1)

Dasupalouie (1038538) | more than 7 years ago | (#17646698)

Farscape: The Movie

Re:Heh (1)

Xaositecte (897197) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647816)

Was pretty damned good

Too bad the TV show sucks (1)

Xenious (24845) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647322)

If they want to make another movie bring back the movie cast. The TV show cast is too weak. Atlantis maybe, but not SG-1.

A Better Storyline (5, Funny)

airship (242862) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647438)

Samantha Carter single-handedly develops a super-weapon that destroys both the Ori and the Wraith and is unanimously declared Queen of the Universe. Wearing an outfit creatively fashioned from a thin lace hanky, she chooses only the fattest and pimpliest of slobbering SciFi fanboys to slake her insatiable lust.

Re:A Better Storyline (1)

taustin (171655) | more than 7 years ago | (#17647984)

I think they did that already, in season 15.
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