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Nintendo Confirms Original Downloads for the Wii

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the not-just-mario dept.

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The Computer and Videogames site touched base with Nintendo in the wake of an interview with a game company in Game Informer magazine, to check up on their plans for original content on the Wii. A marketing director from Hudson Entertainment stated in GI that the Wii would feature a new games channel for downloadable games, and CVG wanted to follow up on the claim. Nintendo's response was that while they haven't decided on the specific method by which they'll be offering the games online, downloadable original content is definitely in the cards for the console's future. No timeframe was given for this content, but it is reassuring to have this piece of the Wii puzzle reaffirmed by the company.

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Bookworm Adventures! (1)

Conradaroma (1025261) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774046)

Damn I'd love to see bookworm adventures out on the wii....with the wiimote pointer, it would be pretty sweet.

Re:Bookworm Adventures! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774702)

> with the wiimote pointer, it would be pretty sweet.

Why?

Re:Bookworm Adventures! (1)

Kemanorel (127835) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774824)

That, and most of the PopCap games, would be far more suited to the DS than the Wii. Not saying they shouldn't, but maybe they would see a bigger ROI on a DS-multipack of games including Bookworm, Bejeweled (1, 2, and 3 if it's done soon), and a few others. I'd pay $30 for those two(-ish) and 3 others on the DS.

Re:Bookworm Adventures! (1)

Conradaroma (1025261) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774866)

we're talking downloadable content I think. I probably wouldn't buy Bookworm adventures, but I'd download it onto my wii no problem if the price were right.

Re:Bookworm Adventures! (1)

wilbz (842093) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775590)

we're talking downloadable content I think. I probably wouldn't buy Bookworm adventures, but I'd download it onto my wii no problem if the price were right.
(emphasis mine)

Apparently the only acceptable price for you is "Free". Last I checked, Nintendo is still planning on charging for this downloaded content.

I think I am aware of your original intent, but when did "buying" something start to refer to only purchasing it in person. What do you call it if you purchase something that is downloaded?

Re:Bookworm Adventures! (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776008)

What do you call it if you purchase something that is downloaded?

Licensing. Wii Shop Channel downloads are locked to one Wii Number.

Let's see some shmups, then! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774066)

Subject says it all. They're relatively easy to program (compared to, say, first person shooters or RPGs), and, done with the right gameplay design and challenge level, they're damn fun to play for hours.

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (1)

webrunner (108849) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774200)

If there's one thing that the Wii downloadable content doesn't need right now, it's more shoot em ups. The virtual console has:
-Gradius
-Xevious
-R-Type
-R-Type 3
-Super Star Soldier
-Soldier Blade

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774870)

If there's one thing that the Wii downloadable content doesn't need right now, it's more shoot em ups.

Funny thing is I have been CRAVING these types of games for a long time, and was pissed they stopped being popular. The first few I bought right away, but even now I'm like... Ok guys... Space these out a little and bring some more Genres in... How about a strait up traditional RPG?

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775840)

I've been in love with shmups for ages. Ever since the first time I played Gradius I was hooked. I've got a pretty nice back-catalog and I can honestly say that my appetite hasn't been sated. What I need to do is pick up a PS2 for R-Type: Final and Gradius V. Though I remember not liking Gradius V because the options pissed me off (only four on screen at once, other gripes).

I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing some newer, graphics intense shmups. Though I still cannot beat Ikaruga on any difficulty setting.

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776080)

I still cannot beat Ikaruga on any difficulty setting.

and I don't think I ever will... Great game though. Hardest game I own.

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (1)

Prophet of Nixon (842081) | more than 7 years ago | (#17805738)

Gradius V is considerably harder than Ikaruga. Also, if you like R-Type, you can also get R-Type Delta and R-Types (arcade R-Type I and R-Type II) for the PS/PS2. They're all great. There's also a good Gradius III & IV compilation, and the arcade Gradius III is quite a bit different from the SNES one in terms of enemy placement and speed.

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17776352)

You do know that Gradius V was made by the same people that made Ikaruga, right?

Re: Shooters Shooters, everywhere... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781708)

Shmups are a popular indie genre in Japan, at least 50% of the indie ("dojin") games are shmups. Some are freeware like Kenta Cho's games [asahi-net.or.jp] , Cho Ren Sha [3web.ne.jp] and Galax [so-net.ne.jp] . For the rest you can go through Palet [paletweb.com] or Himeya [himeyashop.com] (Dojin section), look for games in the catalog and paste the name of the game or developer into Google, often there are playable demos available.

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (1)

Ravengbc (1013269) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775870)

I don't have a Wii yet, but I want to get one. I've heard for some time now from a Nintendo rep that I used to work with (I was a salesman at a local electronics store) that Nintendo was supposed to offer a lot of the original stuff for download. While there are several original games I would love to be able to play again, including Duck Hunt, and the original Zelda, the one main game I would like to see released in its original form with the only difference being more players per map, is Goldeneye 64. Out of all of the fps games I've played, including Halo, Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, and some of the other new ones to come out, Goldeneye 64 has got to be the best one. I know its not a Nintendo original, but surely they can get it released on the Wii.

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (1)

GalionTheElf (515869) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776100)

Sadly, that's really not very likely at all as Rare, the company that made GoldenEye is currently owned by Microsoft, and (as far as I understand it) they have more of a hold on that than Donkey Kong Country as that was made with Nintendo's IP.

The IP is another issue as I believe the license for James Bond games currently lies with EA.

So sadly the chances of seeing that or Perfect Dark, another excellent N64 shooter made by Rare, on the Wii are slim to none :(

Goldeneye on Wii or on Xbox 360? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776112)

While there are several original games I would love to be able to play again, including Duck Hunt, and the original Zelda, the one main game I would like to see released in its original form with the only difference being more players per map, is Goldeneye 64.

Parts of the copyright in GoldenEye 007, first published on the Nintendo 64 console, are owned by Nintendo, Microsoft (owner of Rare and manufacturer of a competing console), and EA Games (current licensee of James Bond video game franchise). It's likely that Microsoft won't agree to a release through Virtual Console on Wii unless Nintendo agrees to a simultaneous release through Xbox Live Arcade on Xbox 360.

Re:Goldeneye on Wii or on Xbox 360? (1)

Ravengbc (1013269) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776270)

i knew that EA had some licensing on Goldeneye 64, but i did not know that mico$oft does. That pisses me off, not just because of the fact that it probably won't get released on the Wii, but more imporantly because mico$oft just had to go and soil an all time favorite of mine, and one of the best fps games ever made. Damn micro$oft. I pray for the day that they go under. Sure, I know its likely to hapen, but hey, i can pray and dream about it. can't i.

Re:Goldeneye on Wii or on Xbox 360? (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17779770)

Well... why not? It'll just be more revenue for both companies, quite possibly skimming very little off of each other. GoldenEye, alone, is not likely going to decide the fate of a purchase, one way or another, it's just another $10 in Nintendo's pocket, and another game they can show off. If they both own rites to it, why not just call a truce and release them on their separate systems. Everyone's been speculating about this, but I've yet to see anything from the companies themselves that suggest it going one way or another.

Re:Goldeneye on Wii or on Xbox 360? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782434)

EA dropped the Bond license, I think Activision or someone like that has it now.

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17783136)

You should really either find an N64 or get the rom and an emulator. Goldeneye truly isn't as good as you remember. Spectacular at the time, but utterly surpassed by newer games.

On a side note, the team behind the Timesplitters games are the people who did Goldeneye and you can see some of the influences pretty clearly. Those games are much more playable too, so they're worth checking out. I really hope there's a Timesplitters for Wii eventually (the team is working on a much less fun looking 360/PS3/PC FPS instead right now, sadly).

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 7 years ago | (#17786060)

-Gradius
-Xevious
-R-Type
-R-Type 3
-Super Star Soldier
-Soldier Blade
- sucks
- great TurboGrafx-16 port of the arcade game, but still pales in comparison to the real thing
- sucks
- sucks BAD
- sucks

I wish Nintendo would have REAL ARCADE GAMES in their library. R-Type, Rygar, Slapfight, Raiden DX, etc.

Re:Let's see some shmups, then! (1)

KriKit (892231) | more than 7 years ago | (#17809710)

I think there reason why there are so many shooters is because most 2D platforms lent themselves well to the genre, which was very popular at the time.

Who needs originals... (4, Insightful)

zarthrag (650912) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774158)

...when the legend of zelda: link to the past is on the VC now!!! (news channel is also available.)

Your Sig (1)

Prien715 (251944) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776554)

Your quote is innacurate. See:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin [wikiquote.org]

A second issue is that law demands us to sacrifice freedom for security. "I give up my freedom to kill people so that they don't kill me" (i.e. murder is illegal) seems to be an essential commandment in every society. Rephrasing it to "essential" fixes this issue.

Re:Your Sig (1)

Real_Reddox (1010195) | more than 7 years ago | (#17777740)

Agreed, but the real quote is frightfully accurate. The world today is giving away more and more freedom to gain safety. Especially the US of A.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Re:Who needs originals... (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776768)

Is there something personally wrong with me if I don't get excited about Zelda: Link to the Past?

I mean, I enjoyed it when I played it back in ~94, 95, somewhere around then. Great game. But I always hear people saying, in essence, "OMG ZELDA IS SO AWESOME" about any one in the serious, I feel like I'm missing something somehow.

Fun game? Sure. Drop everything for the chance to play it in a new format ... I don't see it.

Re:Who needs originals... (2, Funny)

Truman Starr (949802) | more than 7 years ago | (#17777744)

Is there something personally wrong with me if I don't get excited about Zelda: Link to the Past?


Yes.

Wii Online A Complete Disaster (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774236)

I never thought Nintendo would deliver anything special with their online stuff for the Wii, but it is looking more and more that they simply don't give a shit about online. So far Wii online has been glitchy system updates and downloading overpriced old games.

There are a hell of a lot of Nintendo fans out here who are all saying "Ok, I completed Zelda, now what?"

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (1)

Rydia (556444) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774318)

1.5 VC downloads says "now overpriced old games."

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (1)

Rydia (556444) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774408)

1.5 million, rather.

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774488)

Nintendo has 'innovated' a crappy online service like no one else ever has before.

Original content? Who knows!

Actually playing games online? Who knows!

News/weather channels? 480p is all you get!

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (2, Informative)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774732)

Original content? Who knows!

Nintendo has always suggested that original online content would be distributed through the Virtual Console; in fact they commented that it would allow games like "Tetris" to be viable (from a development perspective) again.

Actually playing games online? Who knows!

It has been confirmed that Pokemon Battle Revolution and Battalion Wars are both online games produced by Nintendo, and that the necessary libriaries have been made available to third party developers.

News/weather channels? 480p is all you get!

That doesn't seem to bother the people who are buying Wiis at a rate of 3 to 4 times that of the PS3.

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (5, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774948)

News/weather channels? 480p is all you get!

Yeah, because I really need HD to get my weather forcast. "Damnit, I can't tell if that Partly Cloudy icon is a cumulus or stratus cloud!"

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (5, Funny)

zxnos (813588) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776332)

are you cirrus?

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774558)

There are a hell of a lot of Nintendo fans out here who are all saying "Ok, I completed Zelda, now what?" ... and then someone tells them to play Rayman, Wario Ware, Trauma Center, or Elebits!

Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll, you really need to stop worrying so much about the PS3 and stop lashing out about the Wii. Not everyone needs to like the same stuff, you like the PS3 and glass dildo's you shove up your ass other people don't enjoy those things and that's cool.

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17774810)

There are a hell of a lot of Nintendo fans out here who are all saying "Ok, I completed Zelda, now what?"
This whole console generation is fucked up.

There are a hell of a lot of 360 owners out there who are all saying "OK, I have this thing for a year now and all the games are shit. Where the fuck is Halo, motherfuckers? The best title on this POS is a game you complete within 4 hours, has shiny graphics but no substance and a glitch-o-tastic online play. And why the fuck do I have to pay to play online anyway, you cunts?"

There a few PS3 owners somewhere who are all saying "W.T.F.!"

So all the consoles stink. The Nintendo DS is pretty good though...

Re:Wii Online A Complete Disaster (1)

MemoryDragon (544441) | more than 7 years ago | (#17796984)

The wii has somewhat 25 games of them 3-4 are really good 10 good and the rest is the usual shovelware. Add to that a few hundred games from the cube lineup and around 20 virtual console games, and you can see those, Zelda now what people simple do not look at what is there!

Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (4, Interesting)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774330)

"A marketing director from Hudson Entertainment stated in GI that the Wii would feature a new games channel for downloadable games,"

How frickin sweet would it be to have a nice new 2D* version of Bomberman for the Wii?!

* Or a tastefully done 3D like Bomberman fight that manages to keep the 2D elements in tact. Anything but Bomberman 64 style play.

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (1)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775026)

So you'd be willing to accept Bomberman: Act Zero?

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775436)

The words "tastefully done" in my original post should've cleared up that Bomberman: Act Zero is not in any way, shape or form acceptable to me.

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775168)

What's wrong with the oldie-but-goodie Bomberman '93 now available for download, complete with 5-player joy if you have a WaveBird lying around?

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (2, Interesting)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775816)

What's wrong with the oldie-but-goodie Bomberman '93 now available for download, complete with 5-player joy if you have a WaveBird lying around?

Nothing at all. However if they introduced a Bomberman where you could import Mii's and play up to 8 players localy (using 4 remotes, and 4 GC controllers) I'd buy it in a second.

If it was online... The world would unite, and sing a song in perfect harmony.

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (1)

illegalcortex (1007791) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776278)

I bought it an enjoy it. But I remember liking multiplayer in the SNES version (can't remember if it was #1 or #2) much much better.

What I'd really like is a revamped SNES version with full online play. Just gussy up the graphics, add in online functions and keep the gameplay mechanics the same. Oh, and add some more GOOD boards. If they're not good, don't even bother. I'd pay $50 for something like this.

Re:Hudson, Do I smell BomberMii coming? (1)

Fulg (138866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776282)

What's wrong with the oldie-but-goodie Bomberman '93 now available for download
IMO the absolute best of the Bomberman series was Bomberman '94. Sadly it was only available in Japan, which means no VC release in North America. (Wake up Nintendo, lots of money to be made here at no cost!)

I actually bought '93 on VC thinking it was '94, serves me right for not double-checking in an emulator before buying... :)

It was only a matter of time (3, Interesting)

MrNash (907751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17774506)

Allowing for downloadable original content for the Wii always seemed more a matter of "When" rather than a matter of "If". I wonder how accessible development kits will be for those interested in getting involved with this stuff. Moreover, I'd be interested to see what sort of breakdown pops up in indie games between traditional control schemes, and going the motion-sensitive route. In any case, I'm pretty excited to see what sort of fresh projects start popping up on the Wii in the future, and how they will compare and contrast to that available for download on the Xbox 360 and PS3.

Incorporation, office, and portfolio on PC (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776182)

I wonder how accessible development kits will be for those interested in getting involved with this stuff.

If your company does not yet have experience developing for video game consoles, then you'll need to start by obtaining incorporation papers, a detached office in leased space, and a published title on the Microsoft Windows platform.

Re:Incorporation, office, and portfolio on Wii (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#17777092)

If your company does not yet have experience developing for video game consoles, then you'll need to start by obtaining incorporation papers, a detached office in leased space, and a published title on the Microsoft Windows platform.

Actually, I used to run a games company as a sole-proprietorship. To dev for the Wii you don't need Windows. You can use your garage (I used my basement).

Myth != Reality.

"Home offices do not meet this requirement" -- N (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#17778136)

To dev for the Wii you don't need Windows.

I used Windows as an example of an open platform on which one can demonstrate skills using GCC and a graphics API to develop video games. The others are Mac OS X and Linux, but due to the smaller market share, it is more difficult to recover expenses through donations or registrations if a developer does not port a product to Windows.

You can use your garage (I used my basement).

What you say contradicts Nintendo's stated policy [warioworld.com] : "an authorized developer must have a stable business organization with secure office facilities, equipment, personnel and financial resources in order to insure the security of Nintendo proprietary information and in order to ensure an effective environment for working with Nintendo and/or its licensees. Home offices do not meet this requirement" (my emphasis). Are you permitted to disclose details of how you were able to work around this restriction?

Re:Incorporation, office, and portfolio on PC (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782456)

Some statement from a Nintendo rep sounded like they offer a downsized dev kit for developing those downloadable games. Probably because they aren't worried about people buying devkits instead of consoles so they can play burned discs (or using the dev kit to develop a mod chip).

Online multiplayer & a hook for non-gamers (3, Interesting)

stastuffis (632932) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775082)

Seeing as the Virtual Console doesn't offer any games that really make proper use of the intuitive controls of the Wiimote, I would think that many non-gamers would brush it off as irrelevant. Seriously, your gramps may love Wii bowling, but I don't think R-Type is going to work for him. However, with original content, it's time for Nintendo to get their wheels rolling on some things that will attract the non-gamer crowd. There's load of possibilities. All of these board and puzzle games can be readily exploited and actually make more sense to some people who use a Wiimote.

OTOH, I see more online multiplayer titles as a smart move. The console is lacking the online support it needs ATM, and I think some original titles could help give it a much needed boost. There is a lot of potential, so let's see if Nintendo does the right things with it.

Re:Online multiplayer & a hook for non-gamers (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775880)

There's load of possibilities. All of these board and puzzle games can be readily exploited and actually make more sense to some people who use a Wiimote. OTOH, I see more online multiplayer titles as a smart move.

I agree. If they bring online Monopoly, Risk, Uno... or other games casual players might have played already, it would go very far.

Re:Online multiplayer & a hook for non-gamers (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782464)

I'm not too sure about that, the Wii appeals to many people other consoles don't because it's simple to use, not just because of the motion stuff. Old games are often simple enough to use the dpad and one or two buttons. People like my parents didn't have a problem with the Atari 2600 but newer consoles have too many buttons for them. VC games would be simple enough for them.

WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (5, Interesting)

JoshDM (741866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775266)

For some very cool free content (games!) for the Wii, Opera internet browsers should bookmark this place: WiiFii.net [wiifii.net] . It's a very cool second home with a bunch of flash games (including that cool SLED game) playable through the Opera browser.

My plea to Sega is the following: You, Sega (SegaSoft) needs to update and release a WiiConnect24-capable and local multi-player capable version of the classic game Rocket Jockey [wikipedia.org] for the Wii.

The control system alone is PERFECT for the Wiimote's balancing act, not to mention the kicking surf guitar soundtrack and classic retro style.

Please let Sega know about this perfect game that they already own. I'm on the verge of starting a letter writing campaign.

Re:WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (1)

JoshDM (741866) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775638)

I've just been informed (offlist) that Segasoft published Rocket Jockey, but "Rocket Science" owns the rights. Just and FYI.

Re:WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (1)

Captain Spam (66120) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776686)

Funny, in the past I've said something similar to my friends, but I said "Chu Chu Rocket" instead of "Rocket Jockey", and "the DS" instead of "the Wii". With WFC multiplayer as need be.

I'm not saying your way is wrong. Not at all. In fact, I'd say both ought to be quite feasible.

Yay Rocket Jockey! (1)

Elyscape (882517) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781736)

Hell yes!
Rocket Jockey is one of my favorite games of all time. I would absolutely love to see it reincarnated in any format. For a while, I seem to recall that there was a Rocket Jockey mod in development for UT2K4, but it evaporated (a shame).
On the positive side, apparently somebody's started remaking it [solar-ray.org] . Unfortunately, it's currently a solo effort. We must all pitch in and help, lest this effort, too, fall by the wayside!

Re:WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (1)

Sark666 (756464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782696)

Oh my freakin god!!!

A fan of rockey jockey!!!

This game is amazing, truly unique game play.

I still have my disc, unfortunately the installer demands to install dx3. I did it on an old install of 98 a couple of years ago cause I was sick of not being able to play it. I remember sega released a network patch but never got to try that.

I'd love some workaround to play this in wine.

Re:WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (1)

Sark666 (756464) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782800)

After my initial gasping like a school girl. I thought I'd do some research on getting it installed on non 95/98 systems.

http://www.the-underdogs.info/tech/techelp_r.html# rocketjockey [the-underdogs.info]

This game was so fun single player, I could only imagine playing this multiplayer. The multiplayer is lan only. I wonder how well it works over the net. I used to have a kali account way back in the day for games like this. What could be used current day to play this over the net?

And with the info above, I'm really going to try and play it in wine again.

Re:WiiFii.com and a plea to Sega! (1)

Pxtl (151020) | more than 7 years ago | (#17800962)

I played it at a lan party. It was fun, but horrifically one-sided. Once you're off your rocket, you're toast - you spend the rest of the game being torn to shreds by the other players. The "Sport" mode worked much nicer... and as always, the race mode is painfully hard.

Original Downloads (1)

12ahead (586157) | more than 7 years ago | (#17775486)

Downloadable content aye? Probably related to this [modcontrol.com] announcement :) Get your original downloads at any trustworthy nntp provider.

512mb is not enough storage (4, Insightful)

computertheque (823940) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776092)

There is still the important question of where are these downloadable games going to go? The internal memory isn't much to work with, and has basically eliminated any chance of getting Wii game demos via download, at least I see it that way.

Nothing can directly be accessed from a sd card aside from photos, which either tells me that there are no big plans for the download service, or a hdd is planned for release in the future.

Re:512mb is not enough storage (1)

illegalcortex (1007791) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776310)

Nothing can directly be accessed from a sd card aside from photos
Well, at the current time. I can't imagine it would take more than a software patch to do so. They're probably holding off on it because they want to make 100% no fooling deadly serious sure there's no hole or exploit that would let someone load their own code.

Sure it is! (1)

TheAxeMaster (762000) | more than 7 years ago | (#17776642)

NES and SNES games wouldn't take more than a meg each, hell SNES game carts were only 4 megabits (half a MB) max. N64 games could be bigger (up to 64 MB) so you might have to do something different for them.

Re:Sure it is! (1)

dopaz (148229) | more than 7 years ago | (#17777406)

Most NES games were 256 kilobytes or less, some of the later titles were 512KB and Dragon Warrior 4 is 1MB. SNES games were not limited to 4 megabits, Zelda 3 is 8Mb and later games like Mortal Kombat 3, Chrono Trigger were as large as 32Mb.

Re:Sure it is! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17779594)

Zelda three was/is 8 megabits, which makes it only 1 megabyte. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Li nk_to_the_Past [wikipedia.org] (View the info table on right hand side.)

Chrono Trigger was 32 megabytes, which makes it 4 megabytes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger [wikipedia.org] (View the info table on right hand side.)

512 megs will hold plenty of games, and I bet the downloaded roms are probably stored in some compressed format. (No proof, just pure speculation on my part. But it would make sense.)

Re:Sure it is! (1)

grumbel (592662) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781202)

VC games are a lot larger then a plain ROM dump, most likly due to the manual, emulator and whatever they add to it. Somebody who own Wii can probably post the exact numbers, but from what I remember they are all in the range of 10-20MB, even old SNES and NES games.

Re:Sure it is! (1)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781508)

I'm pretty sure it is just a ROM dump with a good emulator built into the Wii. I cant give exact numbers, since its measured in "blocks", but there are no manuals, no additional content, nothing. The only thing i've seen different so on any of the 5 VC games i bought so far is on Super Mario 64, white lettering on a black screen "You must have the classic controller connected to play this game.", and thats the only game i have that requires it.

Re:Sure it is! (2, Informative)

grumbel (592662) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781886)

Did some research on my own, what I found is this (somebody who actually has a Wii feel free to correct me):

Wii itself has 512MB flash RAM and ~2100 free blocks.
A 2GB SD Kart provides ~16384 free blocks.
F-Zero is 99 blocks large.
DonkeyKong is 19 blocks large.

This means that one block is 128kbytes large and in turn it means that the Wii reserves around half its Flash content for non-user stuff (firmware and such). If that block size is correct it means that F-Zero is 12MB large while the plain ROM dump should only be around 1MB. From this it looks like the Wii can only hold around 20 SNES titles.

Re:Sure it is! (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782484)

Press Home, select "electronic manual".

Re:Sure it is! - there is a manual. (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#17789698)

I'm pretty sure it is just a ROM dump with a good emulator built into the Wii. I cant give exact numbers, since its measured in "blocks", but there are no manuals, no additional content, nothing.

There's a manual in every VC game. While you have the game loaded, hit 'Home' then 'Operations Guide'.

Re:Sure it is! (1)

Yosho (135835) | more than 7 years ago | (#17778880)

Actually, the SNES had two games -- Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean -- that were 48 Mb (or 6 MB). There were also a decent number of 32 Mb games, and quite a few 16 and 24 Mb ones. In fact, 4 Mb is the smallest size I'm aware of, and the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Super Mario World.

Re:512mb is not enough storage (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17779824)

Well, actually, you can save games onto an SD card (I know, I've done it). You can't play them off of there, but you can still re-load them into your Wii. Sure, it's an extra step, but it's not the end of the world. And like others are saying, it would probably only take a simple patch to do so.

Furthermore, expect anything above SNES level to be released on disc. The Wii downloads part of the VC is basically there for doing new games that are similar to classic games, in their content: arcade games, sequels to old classics, new games that use old formulas, stuff like that. Don't expect them to release Mario 128 on there. If you're going to do an N64 quality game... hell, you're almost there, just spend the time to add more polygons, and release it as a Wii disc. VC is for simple time wasters (although I would like to see some longer format games appear there too).

Memory Card (1)

HalAtWork (926717) | more than 7 years ago | (#17782884)

You can copy them onto a memory card. You can't play them from the memory card, but you can transfer them back and forth between the main memory and memory card. You can then take them onto a PC and back them up onto CD.

Ripped HuCards - TG16 to Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17778744)

So I actually own like every game for the TG16 (seriously) and I have all the HuCards ripped and have been happily using emulators for years. Anyone have any idea how I can get those HuCards transferred to the Wii and play em?

This would be so bad ass....

SNOOD!! (1)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 7 years ago | (#17779114)

Come on, you KNOW you want to play snood on your wii. I could imagine tilting the wiimote to control the angle of the shot, or even using the pointer functionality to aim. Either way, ninty needs to get off their butts and license snood for wii PRONTO.

Re:SNOOD!! (1)

Wdomburg (141264) | more than 7 years ago | (#17779884)

Snood is pretty much a remake of Bust-A-Move and "Bust-A-Move Bash!" is scheduled for release in March. :)

Re:SNOOD!! (1)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 7 years ago | (#17779968)

I'd never seen bust-a-move before, but i definitely see the similarities. That said, I'd be willing to throw 5-10 bucks at the virtual console to play snood for the wii... I don't think I'd plunk down 50 bucks for a similar concept, even if it does have a bunch of slick graphics and extra options.

Re:SNOOD!! (1)

2008 (900939) | more than 7 years ago | (#17783212)

If you like snood you should also get Frozen Bubble [frozen-bubble.org] , a free open-source version of bust-a-move. It looks and plays really well, I played through all 100 levels last night in fact...

It's controlled with the keyboard but if you have bluetooth and a wii remote you could get a tilt control version going on your PC with some hacking around.

Or you could play the java in-browser version [sanson.free.fr] , it might even work in Opera on the Wii already.

Episodic gaming? (1)

burnowt (611213) | more than 7 years ago | (#17781956)

This could also be a real boost or episodic gaming. Something like Sam & Max on the Wii seems like it'd be a perfect fit!
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