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iPods Becoming Entrenched In Major League Baseball

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the You-can-observe-a-lot-just-by-watching dept.

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DreadfulGrape writes "ESPN.com reports on how video iPods are being used increasingly by baseball players to study opponents' game footage. In fact, Houston Astros' pitcher Jason Jennings credits the device with improving his game last summer." Jennings says, "Eventually, more than two-thirds of the roster had piled on and turned this team into baseball's official iSquad. Every player gets his own custom set of videos loaded onto his personal iPod, sorted by date, hitter, pitcher and opponent — and updated every week or so."

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yeah but (2, Funny)

battery111 (620778) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841510)

I smell an opportunity for microsoft to tout their "squirt" feature on the zune to try to penetrate this segment.

Re:yeah but (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842102)

Shame the Astros have more tasteful uniforms these days. The brown Zune could have co-ordinated very nicely with some of their 70's uniform disasters.

Re:yeah but (1)

CptNerd (455084) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843244)

Not to mention, the brown Zune won't show tobacco spit stains so easily.

You're out! (2, Funny)

Savage650 (654684) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842114)

I smell an opportunity for microsoft to tout their "squirt" feature on the zune to try to penetrate this segment.

Says the Umpire: You're out! ... Spitballs [wikipedia.org] have been outlawed since 1921.

Re:You're out! (1)

brunson (91995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17849440)

How much do you want to bet they're all listening to "Centerfield" by Dire Straits?

Re:yeah but (1, Funny)

Bega (684994) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842532)

That's just great. Squirt and penetrate in the same sentence.

Re:yeah but (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17844144)

I hope you're kidding. On the Zune, for all media including non-DRMed media, the recipient can't play more than 3 times and the sender cannot send the same media again to the recipient. That's why the wireless feature has been called somewhat useless.

That's great! (0, Offtopic)

lord_mike (567148) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841558)

Now, if Apple would only let us program these things, perhaps we could figure out other cool ways to use them...

I know, I know... forget about it... Jobs will never, ever let you use HIS hardware in any fashion that HE didn't think up first...

Man, talk about losing the vision that originally made you successful...

Thanks,

Mike

Re:That's great! (2, Informative)

LiquidFiend (1050386) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841588)

Re:That's great! (2, Informative)

Valdoran (887940) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841778)

Or Rockbox [rockbox.org] . I've never used iPod Linux, as I don't have an iPod, so I don't know how good it is, but I love Rockbox on my iriver H10.

Worth checking out, at least.

Re:That's great! (1)

bad_fx (493443) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841886)

I'm using rockbox on a 4G ipod and love it. I consider the display and UI to be far superior. The one thing that lets it down though is battery life; I've tried tweaking the settings to improve it, but still get dismal usage from the batteries. I would say it's less than 30% of the play time I got with the apple firmware.

Re:That's great! (1)

vally_manea (911530) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841948)

Not that great on an Ipod though. My 4rd gen Ipod keeps on crashing totally random and the battery life is horrible. I still use it from time to time, but Apple OS(or whatever it's name is) is better IMHO.

Re:That's great! (1)

Valdoran (887940) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842048)

Never had it crash on my H10, but battery life is indeed horrible. I ran the battery benchmark on a fully-charged battery and it lasted 5 hours, which is about half of the battery life with the original firmware.

Re:That's great! (1)

The Cydonian (603441) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843492)

Neither ipod Linux nor Rockbox works with the second gen ipod nano. I love my 2nd gen ipod nano to death, but I'm bothered by three things:- a) there is no easy way of moving songs up and down in a playlist, b) Indic characters in a song's ID3 tags don't get displayed, and c) I'd like to be able to make simple apps for route-maps and such on my nano.

Normal users might not need power-tools, but I'm willing to go the extra mile and tinker with my nano. Things will be so much easier if there is an official API.

Re:That's great! (3, Insightful)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842568)

Jobs will never, ever let you use HIS hardware in any fashion that HE didn't think up first
While I'm no Apple fanboy by any measure, I still think your statement is completely unfair. What made the iPod so much more successful than the competition is the targeting of the non-techie. It's designed to put up all that red tape; it breads reliability and ease of use. The iPod is meant to be used for one purpose only, and believe me, it's not programming.

Just having the option gives the consumer an opportunity to do lasting damage, and possibly souring the experience for them, putting off other potential buyers. Soon the iPod would get the reputation of being too hard for all but the computer-savvy, and it would become just another mp3 player.

Re:That's great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17847460)

Your logic is flawless. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:That's great! (3, Informative)

virtualsobriety (1058474) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842810)

This is not News and the iPods aren't nearly as popular as ESPN makes it seem. I know for a fact that only the small amount of teams who have digital video systems (Red Sox) have the means to convert and load all the Video. These Digital Video systems are not the standard accross the league and most players get video of their at bats/ pitching sequences on DVD for road trips. However, the popularity of iPods as music/video players among MLB teams can not be argued.

Re:That's great! (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843190)

Wait a minute...

Isn't ESPN owned by Disney...

and isn't Steve Jobs and Disney...

A coincidence. Obviously.

Re:That's great! (1)

eMbry00s (952989) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843098)

And wow! Talk about making money out of it!

Visions and ethics mean nothing. Accept it or be labled a communist/terrorist (you're not implying that the free market may have a downside or two, do you?)

Re:That's great! (1)

hhawk (26580) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843648)

What he needs to do is create a "new" model that is programable and has some different name. I'll explain why below..

But 1st..
A) he is a bit of a control freak
B) in the case of the iPod, the iTunes store connection, is both i) a key revenue stream and ii) the control of that connection is what encourged the record labels to sign up.
C) Of course you can program a Mac anyway you like

As a mass market product Apple (read: Jobs) not only wants to be in control of the product and any revenue streams coming out of it, they are also worried that third party OTS and COTS could "break" the user experience. That is to say, their support costs and their perception of a "solid reliable product" could be altered by third party OTS and COTS that starts crashing or erasing, viruses, etc. (e.g.., I downloaded a new game from freegames.com and all my songs got erased and then I sync' with my computer and my songs got erased there also..)-- that's a bit over the top, but I'm sure that is what in part keeps him up at night.

So the solution is a device that is 15% more expensive called the iDIY (Do It Yourself) or what ever better name they come up with that accepts third party OTS and COTS and happens to support iTunes store purchases (or not if that's some huge no-no for Jobs).

Re:That's great! (0, Offtopic)

sasdrtx (914842) | more than 7 years ago | (#17844844)

Do you know what OTS and COTS mean?

Clue: It's not just the new cool way to say "software".

Re:That's great! (1)

hhawk (26580) | more than 7 years ago | (#17845122)

It has a very technical meaning which is the use I put it to here. Software is a rather generic term.

And to be precise I didn't say OTS I said, Third Party OTS.

I first started working in software in 1983, so why don't you think I know what I means? Did you check my profile?

Time for the apple scale (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17841566)

And how exactly does this ipod differ from using, say a phone with camera, are *shrug* a REAL camera!

I said it before, and will say it again: Mentioning Apple does not make you cool automagically!

Re:Time for the apple scale (5, Insightful)

ffnogoodnik (812414) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841784)

Ok, let me give this a try. It differs from using a phone with a camera because the picture quality is better and you can connect the iPod to a TV screen and still watch it without the picture looking like crap. It differs from using a real camera, something major league baseball has been doing for years, in that with the real camera will usually need you to be in a specific location like a film room to view it. The iPod would allow the players to view the film on the plane when they are travelling or in the hotel room.

More free Apple marketing... (1, Insightful)

EvilNTUser (573674) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841572)

Articles like these are starting to bother me. This is nothing that you couldn't do with any portable media player, yet all we hear from the media is "iPod iPod iPod iPod". It wouldn't matter to me otherwise, but I don't want to see a future where we're fighting both MS and Apple. Airplane seats are already getting iPod connectors instead of generic connectors, and soon Apple is going to release a crippled smartphone that won't run your own software, but is already being hailed in the media as a Nokia killer.

We should be worried - very worried. Either Apple starts sticking to industry standards or this has to stop.

Usability? (3, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841642)

This is nothing that you couldn't do with any portable media player

I agree with what much of what you say, and it's probably something that I could do with any portable media player, but, perhaps, Apple's investment in usability is what enables the 'dumb jock' to use portable video.

Before I got an iPod I had written up a set of perl scripts to manage my music on an Archos MP3 player to a level I felt was convenient. Now I use iTunes. Most folks can't write perl scripts.

Re:Usability? (1)

EvilNTUser (573674) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841762)

I'm sure usability is a big selling point, but I'm not sure the difference is that great. Perhaps someone can post about their experiences?

The article could actually have done just that. It did have one paragraph that mentioned competitors: "In fact, Jones says he has spent the winter demo-ing a portable media player by Archos, with a 4½-inch screen and greater file compatibility." Too bad it left it at that level, though. Unfortunately most people aren't going to read that far and never understand the implications of compatibility. It's like having completely biased questions for a survey and then including one neutral one to claim you tried to be fair.

Re:Usability? (1)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842174)

People don't understand the implications of compatibility because they don't have to. Jason Jennings doesn't recode the videos he watches on his iPod and neither do most people who watch videos on theirs. Jason and everyone else just plugs the iPod into the computer and lets it do its thing.

How on earth the guy can make out anything useful on the iPod's screen, from a downsampled video foibled around with to fit the screen, is beyond me.

Re:Usability? (1)

bogjobber (880402) | more than 7 years ago | (#17847876)

I know this is slashdot, but I'd be careful calling someone a dumb jock because just because they're a professional athlete. Most baseball players are actually quite capable. I've met Jason Jennings and he is a very intelligent person. Remember that they are watching thousands of hours of video so they can find subtle patterns they can use to exploit against an opponent (or remove from their own game). So, you're probably right that he can't right perl scripts but that hardly makes him stupid.

Re:Usability? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#17847990)

Which is why I put it in quotes.

Re:More free Apple marketing... (3, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841680)

yet all we hear from the media is "iPod iPod iPod iPod".

By any chance, do you have 2 sisters, 3 brothers & a maid ?

Re:More free Apple marketing... (1)

Speed Pour (1051122) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841726)

I give a little credit to this article. They do mention that they are considering a switch away from apple to a completely different brand that actually meets their needs more fully.

I agree with what you're saying, but I think that this particular market can't be criticized. Since I don't want to be the target of one of these guys binge drinking weekends, I'll be polite in saying this; These guys aren't exactly a discerning market when it comes to technology. They only know about what is advertised, something that Apple is pretty good at. If we heard about scientists of movie execs reliant on ipods, I'd happily mock them to their faces, as they should care more about screen quality, flexibility, features, etc.

Although this is slightly off topic, I think it addresses your point. I am strongly in favor of seeing apple get smacked for using generally anti-competitive measures like you've described, especially the connectors in airplanes or the iTunes (DRM) store. But I also believe in letting companies do things as long as it doesn't prevent another company from operating. I would say this is a good reason for other companies to release ipod connector conversion kits. After all, if an airline is going to cater to a specific connector, the courts would be very hard pressed to uphold any claims Apple made since it's only a move to put all devices onto an even competitive ground. All people want to do is get power, that shouldn't be device specific.

Generic Connectors??? (5, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841734)

Airplane seats are already getting iPod connectors instead of generic connectors....

Maybe part of the problem is that the electronics industry still has their foot up their ass, and after 30+ years of portable media devices, there are still no standard connectors. Every device has it's own connector for charging (which is totally unnecessary today - a small connector that provided 5v and 1000 mv would be able to power almost all portable media devices).

And for the audio output, while most use the 1/8" phono plug, even this is non-standard, with some devices using the 1/16" plug, and phones all using totally different schemes for the four contact points in those plugs - meaningin you can't take a Morotola stereo headset and use it with a Treo and have both earphones work, even though they have the exact same form factor.

I don't blame the airline industries and auto industries for deciding to support only the iPod. It's kind of a "Hey asshats, if you're going to keep being retarded and uncooperative with eachother, then we will just support this guy who has 75% of the market anyway".

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

EvilNTUser (573674) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841874)

I thought iPods can charge over USB? If another company doesn't support USB at all, they're dead anyway. As for video, any portable video player worth buying should support TV:s or monitors, so USB power + composite video or preferably VGA would solve all problems.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

swb (14022) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842022)

I'm pretty sure my 3G iPod will not charge on USB, only firewire. Maybe this changed in newer ones, but mine will only charge on firewire.

(There is a power brick-to-firewire adapter, so it doesn't have to be a firewire port on a computer, but no USB connection will work.)

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

TobyWong (168498) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842168)

My 4G (grayscale) charges on USB so I would assume all of the newer models do as well.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17843732)

I'm pretty sure my 3G iPod will not charge on USB, only firewire.

Charging requires USB2. That USB 1.1 didn't support charging is one of the main reasons Apple went with FireWire in the first place. When the original iPod launched, it was unique in being able to recharge and sync with one cable.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

doce (31638) | more than 7 years ago | (#17847800)

The Video-enabled iPods (gen 5+) will charge over USB and FireWire, but will only sync with a computer over USB.

The 4G models did both over both.

The 3G models synced both, charged over FireWire.

The 1 and 2G models were FireWire only.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842040)

That's exactly what I want from an airline seat--a tangle of different wires hanging all over the place.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

skiflyer (716312) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842390)

Mine (5G) charges fine over USB... but it's the oh so uncommon 25pin USB cable... so if they want to provide a USB port, then I can bring my own cable, and we all win. But I think what's happening is they're providing the 25pin "dock" concept where you just push the iPod down onto the 25 pins.... kinda a silly approach since I'm pretty sure apple just started using it at 4G, and like you say, USB would basically cover everyone (Or at least give everyone a standard they can work with)... plus then I can charge my bluetooth headset, my cell phone and my iPod in flight assuming enough ports. Not that I really need to do all that, but it would be nice to land with a full battery on my phone.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843068)

But if you give them USB ports, then the more clueless of the bunch (eg, the majority) will start asking where the computer is, since you generally only have USB ports attached to a computer.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

skiflyer (716312) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843176)

And the more nefarious of the bunch will be secreting away all sorts of information from your connected devices to resell to the spammers!

Re:Generic Connectors??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842226)

2.5" headphone jack and USB power. Though they're not standard on everything, the headset jack on my cell phone is a non-standard four-conductor, they should be. We're close to the point where companies that don't use standards are being hurt in the marketplace. If airplanes had and cars had used a mini-USB port it would have gotten us much closer and could have been an industry-changing event. Come to think of it, installing Apple dock ports is an industry changing event as well, it just changes it in the wrong direction.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

smoor (961352) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842536)

"(which is totally unnecessary today - a small connector that provided 5v and 1000 mv would be able to power almost all portable media devices)"

I bet that you could even get away with 5V and 1V if you wired it right...

Re:Generic Connectors??? Amps not Volts (1)

mkiwi (585287) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842734)

Several people have replied to this comment, so let me play Engineering Nazi.

It's 5V and 1000mA. 1000mV is simply 1V- that's like saying you have a plug on the plane that has extra prongs for 5V and 1V applications.

Wanted to clear that up in case anyone was confused by it. We know what the parent meant, but some people replying to the parent certainly did not.

Yeah that was a typo. (1)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842786)

I thought it'd be pretty obvious (why would I say both 5v and 1000 mv, which is 1v ?)

Re:Generic Connectors??? Amps not Volts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17844366)

"It's 5V and 1000mA. 1000mV is simply 1V"

And 1000 mA is simply 1 amp.

Re:Generic Connectors??? (1)

danpsmith (922127) | more than 7 years ago | (#17845378)

I don't blame the airline industries and auto industries for deciding to support only the iPod. It's kind of a "Hey asshats, if you're going to keep being retarded and uncooperative with eachother, then we will just support this guy who has 75% of the market anyway".

Oh please, like you can't get a RCA out for just about every media player on the market including the iPod. If they didn't wanna be Apple shills they could've easily installed monitors with a set of RCA in ports and made everyone happy. They are probably just irritated that they wouldn't be able to sell the cables that way. Anyone who doesn't think that whole thing was just a scam isn't opening their eyes wide enough.

Could you be any more alarmist? (1)

NDPTAL85 (260093) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843414)

Saying the iPhone won't run your own software is a bit misleading. It WILL run 3rd party software, just software thats approved by Apple. That doesn't mean it won't run any 3rd party software at all. And for the overwhelming majority of consumers that will be far more than enough considering the high numbers of people with both Palm OS and Windows Mobile based smartphones who NEVER install programs of their own. I have a Treo with many installed programs but whenever I try to tell other Treo owners about this their eyes glaze over.

By the way the MARKET decides who becomes the biggest. Should it be any other way?

Re:More free Apple marketing... (1)

Moofie (22272) | more than 7 years ago | (#17845672)

OK, Sparky, what does this "generic connector" look like? Here's a hint: There's no such thing. If you want a connector that works with 80% of portable media players, well, that's an iPod dock connector. The rest of the market is so incredibly fragmented that there's no way a "generic connector" would do anybody any good. Never mind the utter lack of software that can interface with Every Media Player Ever.

"Either Apple starts sticking to industry standards"

You just tell me what those standards are, and we'll talk.

Re:More free Apple marketing... (1)

aristolochene (997556) | more than 7 years ago | (#17846556)

In the world of digital music players, anything apple does is fast becoming the 'industry standard'


As for what airline, they are a business, and will respond to customer demands. I have an iPod. I'd like airline seats to have iPod connections. It's the number 1 music player. If you can only afford to put one type of connector in your seat, you'd be an idiot not to choose the iPod



Re:More free Apple marketing... (1)

cranky_slacker (815016) | more than 7 years ago | (#17846700)

A-Fucking-Men!

Great, I would imagine (1)

miyako (632510) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841592)

I would imagine that this would be great not only to allow them to study up on opposing players tactics, but also to give them something entertaining to do while they are supposed to be playing baseball.

why the ipod? (-1)

tont0r (868535) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841604)

There are many other portable video players out there that they could use. In fact, there are now players out there that in my opinion are better than the ipod (Dare I say the widescreen on the Zune?). But what is it that makes someone need an ipod when they are just using it for professional work rather than trying to make a fashion statement?

Re:why the ipod? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17841940)

Zune is 4x3

Because the iPod and iTunes just work! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842386)

That's the 'killer feature' - they both JUST WORK and offer an easy way to collect, sort and delivery content onto portable media players - e.g., the iPod.

Can't quite say the same for the competition. Squirt, indeed.

Re:why the ipod? (1)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842896)

Because they probably already have an iPod. They're just putting it to another use.

Baseball (-1, Troll)

EvilErik (160738) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841612)

Baseball, isn't that cricket for people with short attention spans?

Re:Baseball (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17841732)

Baseball is significantly more complex than cricket. You English should give it a try. Maybe then you'll be able to beat the Aussies.

Re:Baseball (0, Troll)

evamedia (997482) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842920)

Surprised you'd heard of the Aussies, are they in the "World" series?

Re:Baseball (1)

Brickwall (985910) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843842)

Cricket - isn't that the game where, once everyone who's in is out, then the side that's out goes in?

Re:Baseball (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17845336)

Nearly - it's actually rounders for people with a short attention span.

Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (4, Interesting)

coinreturn (617535) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841624)

Queue up a thousand replies saying "Why are they using iPod? The is way better! Get a life, folks. Apple finally has marketshare of something. If the story was about Kleenex, would you complain that Scott Tissue was way better? Jeez.

Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (3, Funny)

fmobus (831767) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841722)

Queue up a thousand replies saying "Why are they using iPod? The is way better! Get a life, folks. Apple finally has marketshare of something. If the story was about Kleenex, would you complain that Scott Tissue was way better? Jeez.
I guess you meant Cue [wikipedia.org] , not queue [wikipedia.org] . Unless you wanted to queue Apple-bashers, but then you would have completely different thing [engadget.com]

Yours truly,
Grammar-Nazi Association of America

Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (1)

coinreturn (617535) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842122)

I guess you meant Cue [wikipedia.org], not queue [wikipedia.org]. Unless you wanted to queue Apple-bashers, but then you would have completely different thing [engadget.com]

With all the thousands of Apple-bashers lining up with the same comment, I mean queue. It's called a pun [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (1)

DreadfulGrape (398188) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841890)

Amen, bro. When I submitted this article, I knew half the comments would be from iPod bashers, which certainly doesn't indicate any great prescience on my part, but c'mon guys... ESPN writers prolly don't give a damn whether it's an iPod or not. Point of the story was how personal, portable video is improving a team's performance.

Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842206)

The only way ipods* are useful for baseball players is if they use them instead of baseballs.

There you go.

*- I'll capitalize the word properly when they come up with a proper name.

Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17843836)

The only way ipods* are useful for baseball players is if they use them instead of baseballs.

There you go.

*- I'll capitalize the word properly when they come up with a proper name.
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Re:Queue Apple-bashers in 1...2...3 (1)

lstellar (1047264) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842332)

how is this a 5... nothing to see here.

Yes! (3, Funny)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841660)

Finally a useful application of iPods! What? Baseball? Oh.

Re:Yes! (3, Funny)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841930)

I can think of another useful application of my old iPod (with a battery that barely lasts 15 minutes) and a professional baseball pitcher / batter, but i don't think it's aerodynamic enough.

POINT FOR YOU! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842280)

Give this man a mod point. In fact, give him Funny/Insightful

How it really went down (0)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841728)

Player: Daaaamn, look at that ass !

Coach: What are you slackers doing over there !

Player 2: We're, uh, studying game footage coach, Jimbo here was just pointing out how their pinch hitter sticks his ass out when he's going to bunt.

And the point of this is ?? (-1, Flamebait)

OneSmartFellow (716217) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841742)

I mean, come on, baseball players already review opponents most recent games in full color widescreen television, why bother with a tiny iPod screen ?

And another thing - it clearly hasn't had much of an effect upon their play, since the only players worth a shit in recent history have been Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez.

What's there to know about a fielder ? I can see perhaps studying A-Rods play, but even that is debatable.

The only players worth studying are Pitcher, First Baseman and Short-Stop. The rest are relatively straight-forward, and have very predictable responses - as would be expected from their positions.

Re:And the point of this is ?? (2, Insightful)

chicagotypewriter (933271) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842282)

What's there to know about a fielder ? I can see perhaps studying A-Rods play, but even that is debatable.
Nothing. Hitters are being watched for the most part. Even the center fielder, who if he chooses to watch film, is probably watching a hitter. They look for tendencies, how to get reads on a ball, what they will do in certain counts, etc.

The only players worth studying are Pitcher, First Baseman and Short-Stop. The rest are relatively straight-forward, and have very predictable responses - as would be expected from their positions.
I don't know who would care about watching a first baseman's video or a shortstop's video...well in some cases a few minutes of shortstop footage might be nice, but nothing like what these guys have for pitchers and hitters. I'd like to see some notes on other fielders, but if I was to watch video, as a hitter (played catcher defensively) I would watch only a pitcher's video. I'd rather watch random YouTube videos about Japanese game shows than see a first baseman catch ground balls or cover first base while trying to get something out of it.

Re:And the point of this is ?? (1)

cyrii (37935) | more than 7 years ago | (#17847880)

They're not studying _other_ players; they're looking at video of their own at-bats to determine their own subtle tendencies during times when they were hitting well and when they weren't.

Re:And the point of this is ?? (1)

OneSmartFellow (716217) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843696)

What Ass-Hat marked this as flame-bait ?

There's no flame bait here. It's an observation about the usefullness of using an iPod for watching video when a full sized screen is available. It makes further observation that the quality of baseball player in recent years has been surprisingly low with two exceptions. And, finally it suggestes that there is almost nothing to be learned from studying a player other than the key positions of Pitcher, First-baseman, and Short-Stop.

Whoever marked this as flame-bait needs to get out and play a little more baseball.

And Fred Wilbon will scream about it. (1)

gelfling (6534) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841770)

Because you know, it's not about the spirit of the game or whatever that's supposed to mean.

mmm random advertisement (-1, Troll)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841788)

MLB players use iPods? OMG NO WAI I MUST own one now!!!!!

Why is this article news?

They'll have to upgrade to iPhones ASAP (5, Funny)

fang2415 (987165) | more than 7 years ago | (#17841794)

I don't see what good a plain old iPod will do them. They won't even be able to connect to the spy satellites.

Cheaters (-1, Troll)

szembek (948327) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842004)

Maybe they should focus a little more on not taking steroids and HGH. What a bunch of cheaters. I hope Barry Bonds' head explodes before he breaks Hank's record.

This is Really OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD (0, Flamebait)

TheDoctorWho (858166) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842030)

Is is that slow of a news day. And most you geeks got beat up by jocks anyway. But this is old so why was it posted? iPod fanboys are the worst.

Landfill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842086)

How many of you immediately associated "landfill" when you saw "iPod" and "entrenched" together?

Oh yeah. (2, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842300)

Because when I want to study the nuances of a batters stance or the way a baseman catches a ball and tries to sweep the sliding runner, I want to do it on a screen smaller than an asshole.

Re:Oh yeah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17849422)

You must have a nice large asshole then. Want to get together later?

In related news, (5, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842418)

A joint statement has been released by several hundred MLB players in which they profusely apologize to the public, as they've only just learned how tedious baseball is to watch.

Re:In related news, (1)

cornjones (33009) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843238)

oh my, too bad I am just out of mod points. that is one of my favorite recent posts.

Re:In related news, (1)

Cokeisbomb (1001675) | more than 7 years ago | (#17848676)

Weak. Baseball is a great game. You just gotta learn to respect the game before you can enjoy it.

AwesOme fp. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17842570)

They need a zune (1)

mdboyd (969169) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842770)

That way players can "squirt" those steroids we hear about so often.

Sounds kinda gimmicky... (1)

Trendy.Ideology (1058410) | more than 7 years ago | (#17842836)

These baseball players can't handle watching this type of footage from a normal computer/dvd player/portable media device?

So they need to be spoon feed this type of media through a shiney new toy....

"Hey, watch this footage"
"No"
"We'll give you an iPod and let you use it to watch the footage"
"... oh, ok. Sure."

Re:Sounds kinda gimmicky... (1)

Paradox (13555) | more than 7 years ago | (#17845380)

Or maybe iPods are small high-capacity video players which are convenient to carry and to populate with video.

Does "Free iPod!" really sweeten the deal to someone who makes at least half a million dollars a season?

9 - 13 is a turn around? (1)

pin_gween (870994) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843034)

Only in baseball can you win 41% and call it a turn around.
The previous year he won 40%.

Wow, that's some turn around, ESPECIALLY since he was 16 - 8 four seasons ago.

Re:9 - 13 is a turn around? (1)

fgelias (876444) | more than 7 years ago | (#17843846)

win/loss record is a terrible way to judge a pitcher's performance. W's and L's are more a function of the quality of the team behind the pitcher (and the bullpen, etc.), than the pitcher himself. if you look at jason jennings' other, more informative stats (K's/9, WHIP, ERA, etc.), improvement is apparent. whether this was due to the ipod, i agree, is highly dubious.

Re:9 - 13 is a turn around? (0, Offtopic)

pin_gween (870994) | more than 7 years ago | (#17846410)

win/loss record is a terrible way to judge a pitcher's performance

Perhaps, but you won't see any pitchers in the Hall with a 41% win ratio. In fact, only one pitcher (unless the site I looked at [baseball-almanac.com] is incomplete), Rollie Fingers, is below 50%.

And I REALLY don't think Rollie made it for his 37 or so starts.

Laptops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17843186)

Can't a millionaire baseball player afford a laptop? They're more expensive, but it'd be nice not having to watch on the tiny screen.

TRROLKORE (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17843210)

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What is the definition of "improving"? (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 7 years ago | (#17847048)

Since an Astros pitcher is cited and being as I am a long-time Houstonian still longingly awaiting a world series WIN.....I would like to know what they are referring to as an improvement? I mean the Stros got their asses handed to them in the World Series in 2005 but at least they GOT to the World Series. I understand the need to have an edge against an opponent but working as a TEAM might garner a higher return on investment. When I focus on my portable media I tend to zone out of what is going on around me. I hope they are not using these things during the game.
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