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Alternative Registrars to GoDaddy?

Cliff posted more than 7 years ago | from the time-to-flee-a-sinking-ship dept.

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Futurepower(R) wrote in to ask for your suggestions about reliable domain name registrars. With GoDaddy, the one-time favorite registrar, suspending domains based on the wishes of the Irish High Court, and 'requests' from MySpace, is it any wonder that people are starting to lose faith in it? A word of warning from the last article linked in the last sentence: "(GoDaddy) reserves the right to terminate your access to the services at any time, without notice, for any reason whatsoever." Chilling words from a domain name registrar. So what registrars would you recommend for people looking to replace GoDaddy, and how would you suggest they go about transferring their domains in a hassle-free manner?

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Daddy's bad touch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870322)

http://gomommy.com/ [gomommy.com]

Daddy abducted Mommy.

Re:Daddy's bad touch (2, Funny)

DesertBlade (741219) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870370)

The world is coming to an end. Mommy is now daddy. Maybe I have two daddies? Anyways I use Bluehost.

Re:Daddy's bad touch (1)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870642)

Haven't you just figured out what it really is? Daddy. Mommy. They're both the same. Don't you remember:

The Corps is Mother. The Corps is Father.

You gotta keep a sharp eye out -- but then again, the teeps already know you've got a sharp eye out, don't they? And Bester is on his way.

RegistryRocket.com (4, Interesting)

dosius (230542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870328)

Well, there's a small annoyance, that if you get a domain, they default-direct it to one of those generic squat pages until the first change perks down, and it has an expire time of about a week. So rotate your dns servers in that case.

Any rate, I bought from them through a reseller, who a friend of mine was using (I covered his domain renewal, then bought a domain of my own), other than this, seems to be not bad, not much trickier than the dyndns way and a lot cheaper than buying a domain through them or through my ISP, the $9.96 I paid was prolly comparable to GoDaddy...or not much more...

-uso.

Re:RegistryRocket.com (3, Informative)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870696)

I used pagesgarden.com (hosting and registration). They are awesome. After receiving complaints from the corporate hoards about my gripe site (sig) they politely informed the lawyers that they are a "common carrier" and would be happy to shut down my domain, after they are properly served with court orders, in person, by a law enforcement or court official. They also provided my contact e-mail to the lawyers and slapped my hand about the bogus whois and suggested a privacy service if I was concerned. At no time was my domain suspended or locked, and at no time did I lose connectivity to the internet.

Add to that the one time I had issues with e-mail account setups in C-panel and the tech team had it resolved in under 30 minutes. I'm a loyal customer ;-)
-nB

PagesGarden.com is not a domain registrar? (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872160)

PagesGarden.com [pagesgarden.com] apparently is not a domain registrar, unless you buy hosting through them.

Gandi.net (5, Informative)

Arker (91948) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870774)

Last I checked Gandi.net offered by far the best terms. Not in terms of money (close, though!) but in terms of recognising the customers rights.

Gandi.net: $15.63 (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872200)

Gandi.net [gandi.net] costs "12,00 Tax Excl. ie. 14,35 incl. tax". That is $15.63 [google.com] today (2007-02-03), almost twice as expensive as the minimum.

Re:Gandi.net: $15.63 (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872646)

It's still less than $0.05 a day. I guess if you have more than a couple domains it would be a consideration, but for one or two...

Re:Gandi.net: $15.63 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17872752)

Twice as expensive? That means it's almost $8 more expensive that the minimum. I don't live in the USA, but I think that amounts to about two or three beers *a year*. A perfectly good trade, IMHO, as they indeed provide good service.

RegistryRocket.com gives an error message. (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872026)

I don't understand the suggestion. Does Registry Rocket register domains?

This Registry Rocket?

"RegistryRocket [hostgator.com] is a customizable e-commerce web page. It is designed as a tool for you to sell domain names. You give your site a name, upload a logo (or not), and set the pricing. We take care of the website hosting, merchant processing and other eNom services. Track sales and watch your account balance grow in your eNom reseller account.Whether this is your permanent e-commerce solution fordomain name sales, or an interim option until you have your own merchant account established, RegistryRocket works."

RegistryRocket.com [registryrocket.com] gives an error message.

Registry Rocket - Free Domain Reselling [registrydomains.com] ?

Re:RegistryRocket.com gives an error message. (1)

dosius (230542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872730)

I did say through a reseller, right? RegistryRocket.com was part of the url while registering; ppnhosting.info was the actual site I registered from.

-uso.

I'm very happy with dyndns.com (4, Informative)

MysticOne (142751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870366)

I was having some issues with GoDaddy and have been slowly migrating my domains to DynDNS.com. I'd used them in the past for dynamic DNS stuff (heck, what Linux user didn't at some point?), but didn't realize until recently that they were a full blown registrar. Their website is easy to use, their technical staff are knowledgeable, helpful and polite, and I've had an excellent experience with them so far. They're more expensive than GoDaddy ($15/year for most domains), but I think the extra service and attention to detail is worth it. I'd rather pay a little extra and support a good company.

Absolutely (4, Interesting)

XanC (644172) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870414)

I used their free dynamic services, and now they've earned my business long-term. Great registrar, no gimmicks, no games. Even if it's a few dollars a year above some of the other places, it's absolutely worth it.

Re:I'm very happy with dyndns.com (2, Interesting)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870632)

And how's their record on dealing with legal threats?

Re:I'm very happy with dyndns.com (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17871192)

And how's their record on dealing with legal threats?

Several years back, dyndns.org cut my account for providing a copy of DeCSS. How's that for sticking up for their customers?

DynDNS has "pricing". (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872242)

DynDNS has pricing [dyndns.com] rather than "prices". When I see that word, I think "pricey". Why should a domain name registrar be so expensive? What do they do with the money ($15 per year)?

1and1 (1)

theripper (123078) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870374)

http://www.1and1.com/ [1and1.com] And their hosting plans aren't bad either

Re:1and1 (4, Interesting)

MysticOne (142751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870398)

I'd steer clear of 1and1. While I don't know if this is indicative of a pattern in dealing with problems, they cut off Spocko's Brain [spockosbrain.com] , a weblog, due to a nastygram from ABC regarding an interesting radio show controversy. Since the purpose of avoiding GoDaddy is to get away from these knee-jerk responses, I'd not recommend 1and1 based on these recent actions. You can check the blog for information on what happened in more detail.

Re:1and1 (4, Interesting)

linkedlinked (1001508) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871008)

I don't have a lot of dirt myself on 1and1, but I used to work for a good-sized hosting company, and whenever a customer asked about buying a domain from 1and1, my boss would crap out a community of small woodland animals. He didn't necessarily hate them, but he was pretty convinced that they were a load of bad news, and it was corporate policy to do whatever we could to keep the customer away from that registrar.

Also, we'd get lots of testimonials from old 1and1 hosting customers who had venerable horror-stories, complete with "site offline for 5 days+", "wont answer my emails" and "took my money and ran" situations.

1and1 can pound sand (3, Interesting)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871998)

MysticOne is absolutely right. 1and1 will never get my business because of the way they caved to the cryptofascists at Disney/ABC. I don't care if Disney is the 800lb gorilla, you look out for your customers and you don't pull a registration just because you got one letter from a lawyer. I doubt they spent 5 minutes looking into the matter. As soon as they saw "Disney/ABC" on the letterhead, they were reaching for the plug.

And thanks, MysticOne,for telling me about this Spocko's Brain thing. Living in the cold Midwest, I forget there are also people on the coasts that are trying to stand up. I sent Spocko a few bucks just for being a stone in the shoe of those who would threaten liberty.

Oh, and I am happy with dynDNS, they surprised me with their service and strong policies.

Re:1and1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870408)

I have my domains with 1and1. After the GoDaddy-story came on slashdot I reread my contract - they have the same fineprint (we'll take your stuff offline if we feel like it) and I think I saw a story a while ago (although I can't find the link) where they took some supposedly offensive blog offline. Same story, no surprise. There hosting is good and reliable, though. Just don't expect them to stand up for you.

pf (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870386)

pirst fost

Vs. NetSol (4, Funny)

P(0)(!P(k)+P(k+1)) (1012109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870388)

I'm still paying the unbelievable price of $35/year with NetSol, and was just about to effect a mass transfer to GoDaddy last week; certain events have gotten me to stop and think: NetSol is highway-robbery, but they're stable as hell.

GoDaddy stable too... (1, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870476)

It depends on what you are doing. If you don't own any domains someone might accuse you of squatting on, GoDaddy is quite stable. I have a number of domains registered through them and have never had any issues. Even if that might be an issue I'm not sure GoDaddy is quite so complacent as is made out.

They make it a little more cumbersome to order a domain than you might like, but once you have the domain I think the managemnet tools are OK - though I've never used other registrars very heavily before I moved to GoDaddy.

Re:GoDaddy stable too... (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871710)

The mods are on crack. Offtopic? If I stretch my mind, I can make this be offtopic because we're talking about not-GoDaddy. But just because someone sticks up for them does not make it offtopic.

Not that I agree, I just think censorship is not only bad, but pointless and potentially dangerous.

Also, don't mistake apathy for customer service. Just because they never did anything about one of your potential domain-squats doesn't mean that they even answer emails from people about them, or that they even received an email about it at all.

Re:Vs. NetSol (2, Informative)

Talian (746379) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870572)

Threaten to leave. I get my netsol domains renewed for 7.95 a year. Stable, and affordable.

Re:Vs. NetSol (1)

gtoomey (528943) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870618)

How do you do it for that price?

Re:Vs. NetSol (2, Informative)

StarHeart (27290) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870626)

NetSol isn't stable in all cases. Don't let them host your domain on their dns servers, unless you like like regular problems.

Re:Vs. NetSol (1)

Talian (746379) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870684)

Right, use my dns servers, just netsol registrar. Was about to leave (and go to GoDaddy actually), when they offered to price match, and have let me renew at that same price since.

I've heard of this new startup... (1, Funny)

AEton (654737) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870396)

...something about networks. Hm. Network Solutions, I think. Check it out, netsol.com.

Re:I've heard of this new startup... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17871292)

Hey mods: This is supposed to be funny.

Re:I've heard of this new startup... (3, Funny)

Leto-II (1509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871400)

If you have to tell people it's funny, then it's not funny... Sorry.

Who needs a domain name? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870412)

Just use your ip address! It's like a phone number, and people memorize those all the time.

Re:Who needs a domain name? (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870678)

You're gonna need a pretty big napkin to write down that number [tldp.org]

Re:Who needs a domain name? (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871288)

Just use your ip address! It's like a phone number, and people memorize those all the time.

Pfft. Real men do it in binary.

http://1000010011001100000011101100011/
Or for the lazy:

http://1113982819/

Joker (1)

emag (4640) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870416)

I've been extremely happy with joker.com [joker.com] . They're not the cheapest (if/when the US dollar makes gains on the Euro it might work out better), but they're reliable. I don't know what else to say, as I've been using them so long, and been so happy, that I haven't bothered to look elsewhere.

Re:Joker (1)

samjam (256347) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872492)

I prefer joker.

I wish they'd do .uk domains too, I keep pushing them, but no luck yet.

Sam

enom (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870430)

I am affiliated with enom... because I have had good experiences with them, you might too

Re:enom (1)

Thalagyrt (851883) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870958)

Gotta agree with the AC here. They're incredibly reliable and very fast when it comes to any updates. They also give you incredible tools for managing multiple domains.

Disclaimer: I am a registered eNom reseller, but there's a reason why. They really do handle things very well.

Become an eNom Reseller for as little as $195??? (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872118)

Enom is not a direct seller of domain names?

Enom has "Pricing", rather than "prices": enom.com [enom.com] . "Become an eNom Reseller for as little as $195".

one more to avoid (2, Informative)

Anthony Boyd (242971) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870506)

For what it's worth, a group of us on Web Hosting Talk were chatting about the Godaddy problems, and someone from Dynadot came by to support Godaddy and state that they do the same. You can see the start of that here:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=569 379#post4265087 [webhostingtalk.com]

So if you're leaving Godaddy for their interference with domain names, then you surely want to also avoid Dynadot.

WoW! That's some marketing! (4, Informative)

Skal Tura (595728) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870510)

You REALLY have to ask alternatives for GoDaddy? That's some hell of a marketing.

Hell, personally, i wouldn't touch GoDaddy with a long pole even! And always thought that way.
Reason is obvious: They don't convey trust and technological excellency.

But what they have apparently got right is marketing, wouldn't have thought one would need to EVEN ask for alternatives to
GoDaddy and yet know what registrar stands for.

And no, i am not trolling or trying to be flamebait.
As for alternative places to register domains, some are:

- Enom
- Joker
- Mydomain
- DirectI
- RegisterFly

and huge amount of big players i can't remember right now

one more to add to the list (2, Interesting)

wfberg (24378) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871300)

A quick google turns up a lot of registrars.

I had a domain name registered at godaddy for a while, but I left, exactly because of the horror stories from their (alleged?) "we'll pull any site that generates complaints without investigating one bit" policy. I don't host anything controversial (in fact, I use my domainnames almost exclusively for e-mail), but all it takes is someone deciding to (fake) some spam advertising your domainname, and you can kiss it goodbye.

Something godaddy pulled on me was that when it came time to renew, the registration rates offered to me were higher than for new customers - and no discount for 10 year registrations.

So, after some forum reading, and weeding out suspiciously cheap registrars, I decided on namecheap [namecheap.com] . As the name implies, they're cheap, $8.88 per domain per year. At the time they were slightly more expensive than godaddy, now they're slightly cheaper.

They're an eNom reseller, so they probably offer the exact same services as any other eNom reseller, but they're cheap.

Re:one more to add to the list (2, Informative)

aymanh (892834) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871994)

I'm another happy NameCheap [namecheap.com] customer; I have been using their services for around 3 years. Their prices are cheap, and they offer a clean and very usable control panel. In addition, customer support was quick and helpful in the few times I needed it.

NameCheap.com features? (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872302)

Here are NameCheap.com's features [namecheap.com] . Anything missing from Enom.com's features [enom.com] ? Is NameCheap.com really an Enom.com reseller?

Re:WoW! That's some marketing! (2, Insightful)

Mike1024 (184871) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871504)

You REALLY have to ask alternatives for GoDaddy? That's some hell of a marketing.

The poster could probably have found other registrars easily - google would have happily given him thousands. I think what he really wanted is "alternative registrars to GoDaddy, which don't suck".

Clearly, if you're moving away from one company because of bad service, you don't want to move to a company that's worse. And the domain name business is full of dodgy "free domain parking", companies who register domains if you check their availability, companies who will refuse to let you move your domain to another supplier, and so on. Resultantly, the results google would give wouldn't be that useful - because you don't just want to find a company, you want to find a company that doesn't suck.

And that's an ideal use for 'ask slashdot' - learning from others' experiences.

Just my $0.02

A vote for RegisterFly.com (1)

jbarr (2233) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872520)

I've been using RegisterFly.com for years, and have had excellent results. There may be better ones out there, but RegisterFly.com has been very, very reliable for me.

Stargate has worked for me... (1)

sid crimson (46823) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870542)

...cheap enough, stable enough.
www.stargateinc.com (I don't work for them...)

-sid

StargateInc.com asks you to pay extra... (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872328)

StargateInc.com [stargateinc.com] asks you to pay extra for "URL Forwarding, Email Forwarding, and Advanced DNS Zone Control Panel", apparently.

Support userfriendly.org (5, Interesting)

satherto (513840) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870556)

I have so far had good luck with register4less, http://uf.r4l.com/ [r4l.com] . I mainly started using them as a way to support User Friendly.

I had an interesting problem with GoDaddy. I had a number of domains registered with Domain Direct, and had good luck with them, though I started to find them expensive, so I started registering domains through GoDaddy. I had a domain expire that was originally on GoDaddy, but didn't really care about it, then about 8 months later I wanted a domain to do some testing, and figured I'd re-new my old domain. When I tried to renew through GoDaddy, they said that it was on hold, and it would cost $$$ extra to release it, tried some other domain registers, and they said GoDaddy had locked the name. A month later, I checked on it using register4less.com, and it was available, so I renewed through them. I then checked a different old domain name on Register4less, and Domain Direct, both showed the domain available. Went to GoDaddy, and it was held, due to it being expired, and would need extra $$$ to purchase it.

I will never use GoDaddy to register another domain again.

Re:Support userfriendly.org (1)

Cattywampus (19657) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871232)

Yep. I've used uf.register4less.com for years, and never had a complaint or problem. ('Course, I haven't been hosting anything controversial, either.)

I'm really surprised that more Slashdot readers didn't chime in to mention these guys. *ahem* Why, back in my day, everybody who read Slashdot read UserFriendly, too ...

Register4Less.com has "pricing structure". (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872390)

Parent comment is very interesting.

But Register4Less.com has "pricing structure" [register4less.com] instead of "prices". You know what that means. "Registering one domain name for one year will cost $14.95, already saving you $20 or more as compared to some other registrars." Paying almost twice as much saves you $20 per year? They mean "some other [very expensive] registrars".

GKG (1)

StarHeart (27290) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870598)

gkg.net

I have been using them for years. They are cheap, their website is good enough, and never had a problem with them. In the beginning when I talked to their tech support for something they were very friendly and helpful.

Re:GKG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17871028)

Yea I've been using them for about 7 years, never had a problem. I've had people threaten me w/ the DMCA and stuff too (not sure if they said anything to gkg though).

GKG.net (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872418)

GKG.net [gkg.net] does not seem to list the features. Do they provide email forwarding, for example?

registrar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870630)

I use http://ipower.com/ [ipower.com] Haven't had any hassles or anything with them. So far so good.

Re:registrar (1)

NormalVisual (565491) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871148)

From iPower's domain registration ToS:

20. REVOCATION. We, in our sole discretion, reserve the right to deny, cancel, suspend, transfer or modify any domain name registration to correct a mistake, protect the integrity and stability of the company and any applicable registry, to comply with any applicable laws, government rules, or requirements, requests of law enforcement, in compliance with any dispute resolution process, or to avoid any liability, civil or criminal. You agree that we shall not be liable to you for loss or damages that may result from our refusal to register or cancel, suspend, transfer or modify your domain name registration. (emphasis mine)

I just thought I'd point that out, as it sounds to me like they're reserving the right to drop you even if they think they might get sued over something you did. On the positive side, the word "maintain" isn't in the list in the last sentence.

Surveys from a couple of sites (5, Informative)

imaginaryelf (862886) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870648)

Directnic (1)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870662)

I've had great luck with Directnic. They also offer cheap hosting if all you need for a while is a placeholder or brochure-ware sites. I don't think they do anything with CGI or databases or anything dynamic, though.

Re:Directnic (2, Interesting)

wickedsteve (729684) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870804)

One great thing about directnic is that if your paid for hosting gets used up from too much traffic (say you get slashdotted) they just switch it to free hosting with a banner. They are affordable and great for small sites if you do not need CGI, ASP, JSP, PHP, MySQL, ColdFusion or FrontPage extensions.

Re:Directnic (1)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870852)

I forgot to mention they are also the company that got all the notice after Katrina. They're in New Orleans and they kept going through the entire hurricane and aftermath. The guy handling the emergency became well known for his blog, which I think was even mentioned in a story here.

Melbourne IT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870676)

Melbourne IT [melbourneit.com.au] , where our slogan is, "All your Panix belong to us".

Disclaimer: I work for Melbourne IT, so have to post Anonymously.

Re:Melbourne IT (1)

dokebi (624663) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871112)

Maybe you could answer this poster's [slashdot.org] horrible experience with Melbourne IT? Since you are posting anonymously and all...

Registrar for adding root nameservers (1)

gtoomey (528943) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870680)

All my domains have DNS servers NS1.domain.com NS2.domain.com that are registered with the root nameservers. Godaddy supports this online, but for other registrars its a manual process (hello Melbourne IT).

Does others have this issue, and what registrar would you recommend?

enames (1)

nnet (20306) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870688)

www.enameco.com, they even have a "register nameserver" button, cool.

eNameCo.com is $16.99 per year. (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872526)

eNameCo.com is $16.99 per year. Here are eNameCo.com's free services [enameco.com] .

Network Solutions are the good guys now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17870744)

I'm slowly moving new domains that reach renewal to Network Solutions. Go Daddy was great for a number of years and then became questionable. But after a domain expired w/o notice, I paid redemption fee they wanted, and after the waiting period had to petition them to refund the redemtion fees because some mystery registrar in Lebanon grabbed it "too soon" and they didn't know it, I gave up on their games. Network Solutions is more expensive but has great phone service, doesn't spam me for the Marine Corps and other odd causes, and is very solid all around.

GANDI (4, Informative)

iriefrank (41550) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870748)

Gandi at www.gandi.net is a French registrar that is fantastic, and has the best contract of any registrar. No bullshit suspensions or any of that nonsense.

Re:GANDI (2, Interesting)

hords (619030) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871126)

One of my friends had well over 50 domains with Gandi. There was a dispute with one of his domains and they shut them ALL down. He did get them to turn them back on, but after some hassle. My biggest complaint with Gandi when I was using them was that they took forever to implement domain locking when pretty much every other registrar offered it, and their control panel was a bit lacking. Other than those experiences, I enjoyed their service. You just can't beat GoDaddy's price, especially with bulk discount.

Gandi (5, Informative)

illuminatedwax (537131) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870750)

Gandi [gandi.net] is an excellent place to go. They aren't as cheap as GoDaddy, but they are a heck of a lot friendlier to deal with, and they allow you a lot of flexibility. They have a new XML API, and they support a lot of causes [gandi.net] , including Debian.

See the above comment about Gandi.net. (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872580)

But see the above comment about Gandi.net [slashdot.org] : "There was a dispute with one of his [Gandi.net] domains and they shut them ALL down."

Gandi.net is also a bit spendy: 12,00 = 15,6276 U.S. dollars [google.com] (on 2007-02-03).

Just look for controversial websites (3, Insightful)

lorcha (464930) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870752)

Just use whois to see where controversial websites are registered. For instance:
  • godhatesfags.com is registered through Network Solutions
  • nambla.org is registered through Tucows
You get the idea.

Re:Just look for controversial websites (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871728)

Speaking of Tucows, I use DomainMonger, who is a reseller for Tucows. (Found that out afterwards.)

They are a bit expensive ($13/mo minimum) and their DNS stuff is lame (only certain records, can't write the bind stuff yourself) but they've been pretty stable for me. I keep thinking about moving to another one, but then I hear the horror stories like in these posts and I decide that $13/yr isn't that bad after all. That's like 2 months hosting costs.

Nearlyfreespeech.net (3, Interesting)

CliffSpradlin (243679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870768)

http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ [nearlyfreespeech.net] -- these guys are the best. Check out their site, you'll understand.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (1)

KonoWatakushi (910213) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870992)

It looks like they offer a service to proxy your registration address. Having my home address/phone/email in the NIC registry has always been somewhat of an annoyance.

Does anyone else do this? Is there a good reason not to?

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (2, Informative)

CliffSpradlin (243679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871178)

Others do it, but not quite as well as nearlyfreespeech.net. Not only does NFSN forward domain email to wherever you want, but they also receive faxes and letter mail, and let you know when nonspam mail comes in for your domain.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17871200)

NearlyFreeSpeech.NET reserves the right at any time and for any reason, including but not limited to your violation of these TACOS, to limit, suspend, or terminate your use of the Services and to discard any of your Content.

Nice.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (1)

Leto-II (1509) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871436)

Isn't it pretty standard for a company to have that in its terms of service?

The real question is how often, and for what reasons, they will exercise this right.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (2, Interesting)

CliffSpradlin (243679) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871526)

This has been discussed several times in the past in an open forum with the people who run NFSN...understand that they are more open about free speech than basically everyone else. The only time they've run into an issue where they've needed to exercise that ability is when credit cards have been used fraudulently to purchase domains and/or web hosting, in order to seize those assets. Since you don't usually find out about a fraudulent transaction until much later, they is unable to get any kind of refund on the domain fees or hosting. The clause is there to protect them financially/legally from these and similar situations.

If you guys have any concerns about this beyond that, I'm sure they'd be happy to discuss it. They are quite simply more responsive to customer concerns, and especially support requests, than anyone else out there.

(and just to be clear, I make no money off of whether or not you guys choose to use them..I don't work for them and they have a philosophical hatred of affiliate programs)

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17872362)

Seconded. nfs.net are great for basic domain reg, dns, hosting and email forwarding. For more advanced stuff I'd use Dreamhost.

Nearlyfreespeech.net domain registration features. (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872658)

Nearlyfreespeech.net costs $7.30/year [nearlyfreespeech.net] for email forwarding? Apparently you cannot discover the features offered unless you are already a customer [nearlyfreespeech.net] : "Visit the Domains tab in our user interface for more information."

Registars (1)

SocialWorm (316263) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870786)

There's a list of registars at http://www.internic.net/alpha.html [internic.net] if you'd really like to compare. Myself, I tranferred a domain away from GoDaddy, and didn't have any particular problems (I transferred partly because I could get a better deal elsewhere, and partly because I don't want my domains all over the place). I currently use DreamHost and 000Domains, both of which seem decent enough.

DreamHost.com domain features? (1)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872744)

DreamHost.com domain names are $9.95/year [dreamhost.com] . However, apparently it is not possible to see the domain features unless you are a customer.

Thanks for the link to the InterNIC list of all domain registrars [internic.net] .

000domains.com [000domains.com] domains are $13.50 per year, with a list [000domains.com] of no-extra-cost features.

I wound up at register.com almost by default (1)

Artifex (18308) | more than 7 years ago | (#17870918)

I used to be with NetSol, until they started having really bad security issues allowing for domain hijacking a few years ago. I looked around and wound up with Register, because at the time they had one of the most secure systems for changing information, not to mention they had a great coupon at the time :) I ended up buying multiple years for each of 9 domains. Since then, I suspect a few other registrars have started up that are good, but I haven't bothered to look around, yet, since I don't need to renew until 2011. I personally would like to stay with Register, but $35/year/domain is too much for me, especially since I have a list of more domains I want to add. I'll want a bulk rate from my next registrar.

Be sure you find one with a commitment to security first and foremost, and that will let you sign for the transfer and then do the work of contacting GoDaddy for you. Oh, and GD probably has something set up to block transfer requests for your domain; you will need to log in and turn that off, before you launch with the new registrar.

Avoid Yahoo Domains! (5, Interesting)

amaupin (721551) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871014)

Whatever you do, no matter how good a deal they offer, NEVER register a domain through Yahoo.

I had problems with my Yahoo Domains account's email (web service was fine) - basically 1 out of every 5 emails sent from my Yahoo purchased domain's account would not be delivered to Yahoo or Hotmail addresses. I'd get a message 2 days later saying hotmail.com couldn't be found, or yahoo.com couldn't be found. I went back and forth with Yahoo support. Eventually they told me the addresses of my friends (the Yahoo ones, at least) didn't exist or weren't valid Yahoo accounts. These were people who regularly send me mail. So I made a test free Yahoo account of my own and got the same result - sometimes mail I sent to the account didn't go through and I didn't get any clue that something was wrong until a nondelivery message came 2 days later. Again customer support told me the address didn't exist, so I sent them email FROM that address, and then they completely stopped responding to all customer support mails I sent from that point on. I was amazed.

So I decided to switch my domain to Godaddy, the registrar I have been using recently. I made a transfer purchase order through Godaddy's site and all I needed was the authorization code for my domain from Yahoo.

And thus began the hell that is trying to transfer a domain away from Yahoo.

Buried deep down in Yahoo's Website Services help pages were the directions to contact Melbourne IT, the registrar Yahoo uses to purchase domains. (Yes, Yahoo is not a registrar.) I emailed Melbourne IT asking for my code. They said to contact the reseller. Yahoo sent me email that I should contact Melbourne IT. Another person at Yahoo said I should cancel my Yahoo Domains account and they'd send me the information I needed to login to Melbourne IT's site and get my code. This sounded dubious.

But searching online revealed that's what other people had ended up doing. So I tried to change my domain's contact email address to a temp gmail address, so that when Yahoo canceled my account they wouldn't send email to the just-canceled email service. Yahoo's contact address change form returned, "Unable to modify contact information at this time. Please try again later," no matter when I tried using it. Finally I got someone at Yahoo to change the address for me. I cancelled my Yahoo account.

True to their word, Yahoo sent the login information for Melbourne IT to my domain's contact address after closing my website services account. I logged into Melbourne IT's site and there was no way to request the authorization code other than entering a basic help ticket. I did, and got no response. After a few days I sent another request. Again, no response.

One day I was reading complaints on message boards about Melbourne IT and saw a link to a login URL I hadn't seen before. I logged in there and had access to to my domain's code! Apparently Melbourne IT's support pages are partitioned with no links between each other... I sent the auth code to Godaddy and they began the transfer. Four days later, Melbourne IT responded to my original request for the authorization codes.

(I have omitted the dozens of useless exchanges with tech support people asking me for information I had already given to one of their coworkers. There is nothing more frustrating - and Yahoo was really bad at this - of starting over in a process because the person who responds to your message today doesn't understand what their coworker began two days previous.)

Total time to transfer a domain from Yahoo Domains: 1 1/2 months

VoxDomains.com (3, Informative)

ninjaz (1202) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871018)

I had been using GKG.Net, as it was a Slashdot darling in this kind of story 5 or 6 years ago. Things turned bad when I let one of my names go a couple days past the expiration date. I had never had that be a big deal before (I had that happen using DomainMonger and paying a few days late was never a big issue, but their prices had become double that of the competition). GKG, however, demanded $60 in addition to the cost of the domain renewal fee, saying that 3 different people in their organization had to work on the request. They would only take the $60 as a money order, too, which struck me as incredibly shady. Since I had taken a year and a half off to study, I didn't have money to frivolously throw away on domain extortion, so I let it go and thought I'd just register it when it dropped off. No such luck, and for the past 2 years some squatters in Vancouver have had it.

Since then, I have been using VoxDomains and it has been a good experience. $6.95 domains, and when I forgot the password to my account and wanted to make sure a payment got through, it was no problem to contact a representative and get the payment posted. When one of my domains expired with VoxDomains, they had the domain redirect to a "please pay us" page, and when I paid them the regular domain registration fee, everything turned out fine.

VoxDomains.com (2, Funny)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872786)

VoxDomains.com has a list [voxdomains.com] of free services for $6.95/year.

You might look here... (1)

Pinkfud (781828) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871024)

I hesitate to "advertise" on here, but I am a registrar. Please check http://www.netwithus.net/ [netwithus.net] and see what I can do for you. My prices are competitive with Godaddy.

Re:You might look here... (1)

moresheth (678206) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872058)

What are the policies of Wild West Domains (your momma registrar) regarding shutting down people's sites?

This discussion has made me consider switching all my domains to something other than GoDaddy. Price is one thing, but reliability in the face of legal troubles is something else. Does your domain provider hold up?

aitdomains.com (1)

JohnnyBigodes (609498) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871054)

I've been using aitdomains.com for over a year now. $8 per usual domain IIRC, barely any trouble at all, and their customer support actually replies and solves problems. No DNS servers however, but I get those at dnsmadeeasy.com for $0.75 each plus goodies, and they have yet to fail me once. Total: less than $9 per domain and no hassle.

I suggest Enom.com (1)

RancidPickle (160946) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871062)

Enom has been suggested, I'd like to say why.

I have over 50 domains, and when I teach HTML classes, I buy each student a web domain. Enom is not for the casual web domain user. You have to deposit funds starting at $100US, but the domains are only $8.10US. The website is very thourough, and includes custom MX records, DNS entries, and a free web generator for those who don't know HTML or hate parking spam pages.

It's easy to transfer domains, and they have excellent customer service. I've been with them for years, and have been completely satisfied with their services.

Alternatives to go for and to avoid (2, Interesting)

KitsuneSoftware (999119) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871298)

Main topic: I've not had any problem with HostIreland, though as you may be able to guess from the name they like to combine domain registration with hosting. One (host) to avoid at all costs is NetPivotal: they reverted my site to a week-old backup without telling me, then randomly merged the front page with my first page, a placeholder that had only been up for a few days. Oh, and to upload pages securely, the only option is* a bloated geocities-style file manager. Aside: I can understand being upset by the MySpace issue, but seriosuly, a High Court order? They have to simultaneously obey all laws of every country in which they operate. *or was, at the time.

joker.com (1)

J. T. MacLeod (111094) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871362)

I've had excellent service from joker.com over the years.

It Just Works. No BS, no loud advertising, just working registry service.

The only complaint I have about them is that their DNS service doesn't allow wildcards. I'm not losing any sleep over that, though.

DirectI (1)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871424)

I've been using DirectI for years. The web interface is heavy and slow, but the domains are cheap and the customer service is good and friendly. The thing to do, though, is not to buy your domains from DirectI as a customer, but to sign up as a reseller. This is easy and gives you lower prices. Last I checked, prices were something like 6 to 7 US dollars per year, depending on volume.

GoDaddy Alternatives -- Try NoDaddy.Com (5, Interesting)

fv (95460) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871544)

Just a few days ago, I launched a noncommercial site dedicated to this exact purpose -- encouraging and helping people move away from GoDaddy. The site is at NoDaddy.Com [nodaddy.com] (I'm sure Bob Parsons loves the domain name ;).

I launched the site after GoDaddy shut down my domain SecLists.Org [seclists.org] , as noted in this /. article summary. The site includes a list of alternative registrars that readers have recommended. It is rather sparse on details right now, but I'm working on that. I'll go through all your comments in this article tomorrow to fish out good ideas for the registrar section of the site. I'm trying to fill up the site as much as possible before GoDaddy's big SuperBowl ads air on Sunday. We are currently seeking a volunteer to set up and run the NoDaddy forums -- write me if you're interested. We're also looking for "NoDaddy girl" models, but perhaps Slashdot isn't the best place to recruit for that :).

Just today, CNET News.Com posted an article where they interviewed many registrars about there takedown policies [domainnamewire.com] . Unfortunately, many registrars refused or didn't bother to respond. Of those who did, the authors "found that the French registrar Gandi.net and New Orleans-based DirectNIC offered the most extensive guarantees against unnecessary domain name suspension."

-Fyodor
Insecure.Org [insecure.org]

Gandi.net (1)

borfast (752138) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871950)

I definitely recommend Gandi.net. They're friendly, their terms of service are fair and honest and they don't offer as much options as Godaddy - yes, this is good, because I'm talking about all the sh$t that Godaddy tries to push down clients' throats when they buy one simple domain name.

I started to think of moving away from Godaddy when they made the huge change to MS-based servers [slashdot.org] and that's when I started to notice all the news about them shutting down domain names without notice, their tricky way of pushing unneeded stuff onto their customers and also their draconian terms of service.

There's just one thing that Godaddy offers and Gandi.net doesn't which I think could be usefull for some - anonymous information for the domains. But then again, if Godaddy is willing to release the ownership information just because of one single legal threat, as the article says, then it's not worth that much, wither.

There's also the price tag thing - Gandi.net is not as cheap as Godaddy but I think the advantages of working with an honest company who treats their clients fairly and doesn't try to sell them 5 tonnes of unneeded crap, largely compensate the extra money I pay for the domains I have there.

EasyDNS (3, Informative)

Tridus (79566) | more than 7 years ago | (#17871986)

Been using them for a while now, I'm very happy with them. If you're looking for other services you may be out of luck, they really don't do much OTHER then registrar and DNS service, but then thats what attracted me to them in the first place. (I like it when a company does one thing well, rather then doing 500 things badly.)

Domain expiration alignment? (1)

NuclearKangaroo (768480) | more than 7 years ago | (#17872054)

Of your recommendations for alternatives to GoDaddy.com, which ones allow for the alignment of multiple domain expiry dates?

I have several domains with different expiration dates I'd just as soon only have to deal with ONCE a year. :]P
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