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New Community Site Offers Views From the Trenches

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the scoops dept.

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roby2358 writes " TrenchMice is a new community-moderated website that provides 'inside opinions and insights' about businesses and employers. But instead of the reporting bias toward management and venture capitalists that is so common in the mainstream media, on TrenchMice the opinions and information come from posts by the people in the trenches. Users — who can post anonymously if they choose — can provide topics, scoops, or comments, and there is a thorough rating system. To keep the site from turning into a 'whack-a-company' fest, users build up 'Cred' (something like Karma) as they provide insights on companies and employers. The site is based in Seattle and most of the early content is about Seattle companies, but they have ambitions to grow nationwide, with a goal is to see if a site based completely on open-source technology, and rigorously community moderated, can run on a pretty much automatic basis. Could be an interesting model for future social sites if it takes off. Full disclosure: I know these guys and have posted on the site, but I don't work for them."

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Less FUD (1, Insightful)

DotNM (737979) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964422)

Looks like this could become a good thing.... learning about the reality versus corporate-spin FUD

Re:Less FUD (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964538)

This may well be a good thing, but ultimately it's just a slashvertisement for some lame website... consumerist.com does a pretty good job with this sort of stuff anyway, and "community" is just so 2003...

So, for something more interesting and relevant... how well do yuo know your BRUCE SCHNEIER FACTS [geekz.co.uk] ?

Slashvertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964426)


The advertising model of the future.

I wonder what would happen if (2, Insightful)

Travoltus (110240) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964438)

Employers had a site like that about employees?

They already do (3, Interesting)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964482)

It's called the major media. When you watch the politics headlines on CNN, or read the business section in your local newspaper, or consult your favorite website for the latest stock tips you are being given a look at how the employers want you to see their companies. From those points of view the trench mice are rarely mentioned as they're ultimately not important to the profit margin, stock price, or corporate merger goals. If the trench mice are mentioned in the major media you can be sure it is only to fulfill the poster child requirements. Corporations, like casinos, need a few superstar good stories and a few superstar bad stories just to keep the PR windmills turning.

Re:They already do (1)

John Hurliman (152784) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968098)

I think you missed the OP point entirely. What if there was a community website for HR departments, managers, and project leaders to post about their employees and what they are doing "in the trenches"? Joe Coder showed up 30 minutes late today, Jim Engineer is consistently missing deadlines, Bob Soandso did a great job delivering for our latest product launch, etc.

Re:They already do (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968314)

I think there's a larger point that you are missing. All of the entities listed in your second sentence are employees themselves. So employees (which includes "managers," "project leaders," and even "founders") writing about conditions in their company isn't societally recursive, while what you're suggesting would be.

Nobody -- HR manager, project leader, etc. -- is prohibited from registering on TrenchMice and rating their company.

Re:They already do (1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 7 years ago | (#17984062)

Might be useful. If a boss writes shit about a programmer showing up to work 30 minutes late, I'd instantly realize that the boss doesn't understand programmers or programming, and he's not anybody worth working for.

Anybody who bitches about a programmer showing up 30 minutes late to work had better not bitch when those same programmers decide to punch the clock at 5 PM sharp instead of working the problem until they fall asleep.

Re:I wonder what would happen if (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964490)

Don't sites like Monster.com fall into that category ?

Re:I wonder what would happen if (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964626)

Most employers are way too busy screwing the current employees to be bothered with smearing them publically.

Fun part, in many states they CANT. because asshole managers tried to blackball many employees that turned them in to feds or police for illegal activities.

Basically, there are way more bad businesses than there are bad employees. so you lose... wah for you.

bad businesses? why, you communist! (1)

Travoltus (110240) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964920)

There are no bad businesses. Only bad labor unions.

Don't argue with me unless you want to wind up getting waterboarded in Guantanamo!

Oh wait, Rumsfeld ain't got my back no mo'. WTF OMFG I take that all back!!!

Re:bad businesses? why, you communist! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17967586)

What could have been an intelligent post turned to stupidity once you decided to revert back to your prepubescent self...

Re:bad businesses? why, you communist! (1)

Travoltus (110240) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968412)

I was making fun of big business defenders who think there's no such thing as bad businesses. Only a prepubescent wouldn't notice that. :)

Re:I wonder what would happen if (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964740)

Well, that one's simple. They would have the choice to recognize who works well and reprimand those who don't. Perhaps they would reprimand those who don't and hire better workers, but in their choice to recognize who works well, maybe they'd figure it's cheaper to keep them where they are than promote them or give them a raise. Employees can quit if they want, they have a choice, but they don't have a choice to get a raise or not, that's up to their employers. Such a site would have little to no bearing on how things already are: employees picking up what little scraps they get thrown.

It's called Google (1)

HalAtWork (926717) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965558)

You can Google anyone and find out more than they put on their resume, stuff that can be taken out of context if seen that way, stuff that they do outside of work that has nothing to do with work but may attach stigma to them depending on biases of whoever's doing the search, etc. A difference here though would be that there aren't others to collaborate (and therefore validate or invalidate information based on peer review) on such information such as on the web site in question, but hey, it doesn't seem to make a difference to employers anyway. At least this way the employees can see what truthful information exists that they may not otherwise know about their employer.

Slash vertisement of a failing website? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964462)

They get about one story a week. How does this make the front page of slashdot? Its not like there's a lack of interesting stories out there.

Probably some sort of you scratch my back I'll scratch your's friendship thing.

I'm not sure how this is different / better than fuckedcompany.com

Re:Slash vertisement of a failing website? (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964726)

With fuckedcompany.com, everything is anonymous and there's no peer review of what's submitted. And you don't get to choose what's on the front page. Joe Smith submits a story about Foobar Co., and you don't know who Joe is, what kind of credibility he has, or anything. That's a big difference.

Why ? (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964464)

Why does someone always feel the need to let us know how it's going "In the trenches" ?

We know how it's going in there, it sucks, why do you think we sent you ?

Why give away your insider info and pay as well? (1)

bathioux (1062470) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964934)

I find it hard to believe that somebody will post insider info. Why doesn't she just gain advantage from knowing it, and steering her boat more wisely inside the company?

Re:Why give away your insider info and pay as well (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965020)

Remember the Tootsie Pop Owl ?

Re:Why give away your insider info and pay as well (1)

bathioux (1062470) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965830)

No, i had to read the wikipedia article about it.

Re:Why give away your insider info and pay as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17965054)

I guess you find it hard to believe that anyone would post something on Digg, or on Slashdot, or on Fuckedcompany, then?

But people do. People like to report on what's going on in their company, good or bad. Usually more often on bad stuff than good stuff.

Major Critical Mass problem (3, Interesting)

popo (107611) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964498)


What's the point of this site? I'm not flaming, I'm just not totally clear on this. Is this supposed to be a forum where the low guy on the totem pole offers his "insight" into where the company should be heading? Or is it a "vent about your lame boss" site?

The reason I'm asking is: Who will read it? Who is the intended audience?

I just went to the site and saw a bunch of names of people I've never heard of, and with almost 100% probability will never hear of.

I've seen sites with "critical mass" hurdles. But for this site to *begin* to have meaningful data to a majority of visitors, it would need millions of viewers.

Neither (4, Insightful)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964510)

Check out the site. It's just a different way for people to pass news. CxOs, directors, and VPs meet each other and pass insider trading tips on golf courses. Employees often meet at the local Subway, Starbucks, or by the water cooler. The site isn't a trash-your-company site and it's not a major media outlet. It's an internet water cooler.

Re:Neither (1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964816)

well said. The only problem I see as a potential user is this - a water cooler is free, while this site has three tiers out of which two are paid. And that means there are three water coolers - I can use only one if I am not a paying user.

This site may have a good potential, but I am already disappointed.

Re:Neither (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964888)

Look more closely. Any of the membership tiers can read any recent post on the site. What the paying levels give you is more searching tools, notification tools (like, a way to be notified by email if someone posts something about you), etc.

Don't pan them for wanting to upsell to paying accounts with more features. They gotta eat, too.

Re:Neither (1)

John Hurliman (152784) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968126)

A way to anonymously break NDAs and leak trade secrets?

Re:Major Critical Mass problem (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964564)

I've seen sites with "critical mass" hurdles. But for this site to *begin* to have meaningful data to a majority of visitors, it would need millions of viewers.


hence the reason it was posted to slashdot

Re:Major Critical Mass problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17965492)

The reason I'm asking is: Who will read it? Who is the intended audience?

The unemployeed disgruntled types with too much time on their hands, who should be out doing something instead of sitting around in front of the television or yet another website. While this person does contribute to page-views, they're generally not worth much to advertisers because they haven't got much money.

It seems that for many, computers have gone way beyond being useful tools and instead are often devices that sap away the hours and substitute for a real social life. Just as with the many fat folks around that need to eat less and consume more selectively, it's time for many to spend less time on lame sites and get out and get a life.

There' is a critical mass problem alright, it is too big and making the chair smell funny,

If all those cookies and web-bugs (AT&T/Yahoo calls the Web Beacons) really did their jobs and brought us what interests us, where are the job opportunities ads for paid sperm-donors??

These sites already exist by the dozens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964578)

What's so special about trenchmice? There are plenty of sites out there where employees can dish on their employers, and they've been around for a long time -- a decade at least, I think.

Slashvertisement - Recruiters (1)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964592)

In the same vein, Recruiter-Rater [zhrodague.net] is a site for rating recruiters, and for jobseekers (and HR professionals) to rate these agencies. Help fight jobboard spam!

can it be trusted? (1)

taprackbang (917241) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964616)

How can I trust the user submitted comments if site allow them to post anonymously? How do they verify the truthfulness of the posts. Competitor can just pose as ex-employee and trash the target company.

Re:can it be trusted? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964784)

Anyone can post anonymous comments. But to post major pieces of information about a company ("scoops"), you have to be a member of the site. And if you're a member, other members rate your credibility.

So any _one_ piece of information can be wrong. But short of using only face-to-face meetings with people who carry three forms of identification, that's _always_ true of any online information source. The value comes, I think, from the "wisdom of the masses" (I didn't coin that phrase, I read it somewhere....). Like on Slashdot -- any one post could be crap. But with moderation and meta-moderation and karma, bad stuff _tends_ to disappear.

Re:can it be trusted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964860)

The value comes, I think, from the "wisdom of the masses" (I didn't coin that phrase, I read it somewhere....). Like on Slashdot -- any one post could be crap. But with moderation and meta-moderation and karma, bad stuff _tends_ to disappear.

Unfortunately, when the masses have a collectively mediocre IQ, there is no such thing as "wisdom" resulting from mass behavior.

As is definitely the case on Slashdot, unpopular opinions and statements often do get moderated down and never seen again. It is foolish to believe that fear of being moderated down and getting a ban message (yes, if your karma, logged in or not, falls too law, you get banned or restricted) does not affect what people are going to say.

Similarly, I see redundant and popular but vapid stuff get moderated to the top.

Re:can it be trusted? (1)

taprackbang (917241) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965822)

If you allow user to broadcast unverified information about a company, it's called rumor. And people love sensational headlines, to which slashdot is not immune neither. And therefore, such site will not be useful if I can't trust it. ya, at most you can call it web water cooler.

Re:can it be trusted? (1)

jwp (12109) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964900)

Competitor can just pose as ex-employee and trash the target company.

Or, Employer shill can pose as an ecstatic employee and pump it up.

Re:can it be trusted? (1)

faolan_devyn_aodfin (981785) | more than 7 years ago | (#17969290)

That reminds me of this company called Vector which prays on the insecurity of the lives of college students and people just coming out of high school. Basically they give you "free training seminars" (where as real jobs are required to pay you for training) and during which one of the exercises they give you is to write down as many names as possible. Then they make you go out and sell Cutco knives to as many of these people as possible after getting you all excited about their product by lying to you about it.

But wait! It gets better, they even make you purchase your demo kit before letting you go out on your "Fast Start" and make money. In essence they have already made at least one sale off you their "prospective employee". However, once you are out doing the job they only pay you for the appointments and usually it's $10-$20 per each. You do not get paid for the time it took to set up the appointment, gas money, or travel time like most jobs in sales. You are essentially an independent contractor, but unlike most normal contractors you are force to call your "boss" after every sale. Why? Because when you MIGHT make a %10-%20 commission off of your sale if you had a good WEEK of sales he'll probably make 25%-50% commission off of YOUR sale. This is called a pyramid scheme my friends and it's illegal.

After a little research after talking with some friend about the job and doing some googling on the company I found out that the company's greatest resource is new employees. In fact many people after exhausting their list are not able to keep a stead flow of recommendations, thus ending their usefulness. They have over 80% turnover within a month of employment and 90% within two... that's a red flag right there. In fact I even did the math to see how much I would make an hour if I only made the base pay and it turned out to be about $6 an hour. I might as well have work at McDonald's.

I can gladly say that I didn't take the job. Didn't even go to the last training seminar. I would advise anyone though if they see an ad in the paper offering a per appointment based sales job not to call. It's a scam. They'll suck up to you and make you feel good, but when you can't do the job because suddenly you run out of friends and family that you unwittingly CONNED because you were given false information about the product and its competitors. That's if your lucky... some of Vector's offices have even been known to be cleared out without telling their employees if their closing, leaved their former employees with no job and a set of knives they were conned into buying.

tro7l (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964640)

4.1BSD product, [goat.cx]

Mod an entire site? (2, Funny)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964698)

Can you mod an entire website with "-1, Troll" ?

sounds like a good (1)

Chris Chiasson (908287) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964744)

way to be fired

We need a moderatorless system! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964810)

What we really need is a moderatorless system without passwords! Otherwise this system will fail eventually... what's that about reading your BIOS through voip?

Never again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964886)

Anyone who uses "trenches" like this needs to be buried in one. I am sure they are keeping it "real" too, but /damn/ its annoying. And yes, even kuro5shin or whatever oh so clever and hip spelling they chose, is not exempt.

Mod this up, because I write from the trenches. Trenches! They make my opinion relevant!

Yuo FaiL It. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17964946)

By BSDI who sell

Not viable... (3, Insightful)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 7 years ago | (#17964992)

A few years ago I knew of a woman who started writing about where she worked. She avoided referring to the company or anyone there directly. However, she was so specific with details that fairly quickly her coworkers discovered this blog. It probably wouldn't be a big deal if she weren't insulting her coworkers constantly and inadvertently disclosing some sensitive information. Needless to say, soon enough she was out of a job.

That brings me to one of the problems with this kind of site. I don't think many people feel comfortable writing about their employer, especially if it's something negative. More importantly, however, do most people even have the time or inclination to bother with this? If they're already exhausted from being down in the trenches they're going to want to dwell on work in their free time.

If there is a bias towards management in the media it's because those guys are the people making the decisions. They're the ones who matter, they're the ones with the money and guiding the company. Obviously every employee is important and there are countless stories of incompetent managers. But that's irrelevant. The person down in the trenches is simply taking orders. For obvious reasons people want to know what companies are doing. It's easy to be informed because the information is readily available in most cases.

The only way I see for such a site to be effective is for it to have a unique hook. Fucked Company is one example that comes to mind. The information regarding layoffs and company closings is easy to gather. And any affected employee could easily share information. But most importantly, there was an emotional draw to the site. It made people want to visit and more importantly want to contribute.

At best this TrenchMice site will turn into a rant about companies. Usually the only people driven to comment are those who are unhappy with their situation. The ones who are happy see little need to contribute and likely are preoccupied with other things anyway. And if it ends up being mostly negative I don't think management is going to be too happy about some site disparaging their company.

It's an interesting idea, but I don't see it as too viable in it's present form.

Your world view is askew. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17969082)

If there is a bias towards management in the media it's because those guys are the people making the decisions. They're the ones who matter, they're the ones with the money and guiding the company. Obviously every employee is important and there are countless stories of incompetent managers. But that's irrelevant. The person down in the trenches is simply taking orders. For obvious reasons people want to know what companies are doing. It's easy to be informed because the information is readily available in most cases.
Huh? The way you think companies operate is straight out of the 1850's.

Management = "They're the ones who matter." ?? "The person down in the trenches is simply taking orders." ?

"It's easy to be informed"? I guess that's why, for example, yesterday everything was coming up roses at Eddie Bauer, and today we find that the CEO has abruptly left and nobody on their senior exec team is answering the phone. As a shareholder it would be nice to have a view into what's going on there.

from the trenches? (1)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965142)

Actually, I think you'll find this site [kuro5hin.org] had that little thing going first... ;)

Re:from the trenches? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17965250)

Kuro5hin is OK, but it can get esoteric and boring. And it doesn't tell me what it's like to work in a company I'm interviewing at tomorrow.

New Dilbert storylines? (1)

sm8000 (780163) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965358)

Anyone else realize Scott Adams now has a new source of inspiration?

a thin veneer on an advertising site (1)

thiotim (1062496) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965606)

As far as I can tell, the site charges for the ability to post a "topic". A "topic" is how you start a new thread on a new company. So, it's requiring people pay for the privilege of starting a thread about a company. Sounds like a thin veneer on an advertising board to me.

Re:a thin veneer on an advertising site (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965702)

No, you're wrong. A bronze account can create topics, and it's free.

What is true is that you can't create topics as a bronze account immediately. You need to build up your "cred rating" a little bit first, which you can do by posting scoops or comments that other members rate favorably.

Re:a thin veneer on an advertising site (1)

thiotim (1062496) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966342)

If that's the case (and it's not clear based on the instructions), then there is still a problem. Someone knows about a company they want to post about, but probably not about the other companies that are already there. How is that person supposed to build up "credit" in order to post? They probably no nothing about the companies currently posted. It's a chicken-and-egg problem. The site won't get current news with this model because the actively rated group will be small.

Re:a thin veneer on an advertising site (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966810)

http://www.trenchmice.com/account/compare [trenchmice.com] compares the account levels, and it does say that a bronze account allows for topic creations... Maybe it needs to be clearer?

The scenario you raise is certainly possible. If that user finds absolutely nothing else to comment on in the entire site, then I agree with you that he/she won't be able to easily build up cred. OTOH, the site is seeded with lots of pacific northwest companies. So one would hope that the chances of this scenario happening are small for where the focus is now, and the answer is "just" to seed the database with topics for more cities. (Maybe, maybe not.)

Re:a thin veneer on an advertising site (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17979946)

We listened to your comments, and those of some of our users. We came around to your point of view that the bar was being set too high for new topic creation. And so we've changed the policy for new topic creation. See http://www.cogitooptimus.com/2007/02/11/new-rules- for-topic-creation/ [cogitooptimus.com] .

They use port 81 (2, Informative)

hda (311214) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965686)

... for javascipt and css. Port 81 is not considered a 'safe_port' on default squid configurations. Though visitors behind a proxy not allowing http requests through port 81 still see the content, the rendering of the pages is very confusing. The postings on that site appear near the bottom of the page.

Re:They use port 81 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17966106)

You're absolutely right - our bad. We are (were now) serving all the static content off lighttpd, reserving back Apache for the Django frameworks. The proper answer is to route everything through lighttpd (at least with our relatively small configuration) so that we don't have the port 81 weirdness.

Thanks for the comment - at the moment we're routing it all back through Apache. As long as we don't get crushed with the load (that was the original concern and reason for serving the static content from lightttpd) we'll just keep it that way for a while.

We'll do it right, but I want to make sure we're doing it right and not just slapping it in place and screw something up.

People need corpo-brand chop suey (1)

rogtioko (1024857) | more than 7 years ago | (#17965710)

/. surfing and future recreationation are as red beans to rice
  1. trenchmice could improve its game by letting companies submit their save files.
    1. Currently things aren't this way.
      1. Real world recreation counterpart in virtual competition: Some Utah cafes [time.com] where people go to get a bight to eat and socialize. One in Seattle has an xbox and there is a highly probable possibility that other places do as well. There's a price shock: visitors get the opportunity to game the valuing system and difficultly make appraisals on chow. Spending a billion dollars on a bagel is a lowly probable possibility.
'Pay what you want cafes' would benefit at no cost to the consumer if the owners set prices for products. It'd advertise to people the system's needs. [Getting rid of the name would be a no brainer] Consumers could still steal the stuff and/or pay what they want. This would give a chance at least for consumers to get what they want while paying what they want and save time. This probably would result in some people getting sent to jail: but it'd set a new precedent for further future 'steal what you want' shops. The other chance is that owners might charge too much. Bottom line is that having prices is ideal and there is a chance that you'll save some time.

Propounding an idea: it'd be a great for Trenchmice to encourage dumpster diving to find confidential company records to find out if companies have ball and crane tactics for getting and managing an inventory of ahrkmm cough*scrap*cough workers. Besides that, Trenchmice could consult microsoft for advise on how to display statements on corporate condition and values they have for employees. [varbusiness.com] [Even though Microsoft's personal agenda sucks, I respect their decent side projects--such as live search, xbox, and working with bungie--and would consider considering (I'm in no position to make such decisions myself) microsoft for the job]

Re:People need corpo-brand chop suey (0)

rogtioko (1024857) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966420)

Previous post title should be: Job-skrs need Corp Output on Trenchmice

Re:People need corpo-brand chop suey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17968542)

What on earth are you trying to say?

Dude- lay off the caffeine for a few and try to explain your sentences. What do mean by a "company's save file"? I haven't even quite parsed the rest of that.

Looking at Corporate job output What you could say (1)

rogtioko (1024857) | more than 7 years ago | (#17970362)

The future company save file submissions represent what business op fact sheets might possibly be marketed on Trenchmice.com by corporations.

one could read the rest and could notice the whole of unity (look closely left here).

Coward asked about caffeine. I swear why does the rest of my family digest cow and muscle of jello?!??

  1. In the future, you could ask questions to contacts of some corporation, as in 'Deer Dirt', in Japan and at the US division.
  2. also, is anybody going to give a scoop of trenchmice.com, I hear their corporate tactics rival those other 2553ers? It's well run by the people

    We have a dedicated development and design staff of three, and a stellar advisory board

Then whats Slashdot? (1)

Jrabbit05 (943335) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966014)

"Seattle companies, but they have ambitions to grow nationwide, with a goal is to see if a site based completely on open-source technology, and rigorously community moderated, can run on a pretty much automatic basis." Say what?

Defamatin and libel (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966102)

Subpoenas will be flying like confeti. A lawyer's dream come true.

Re:Defamatin and libel (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966158)

Hmm. Do subpoenas fly like confetti at /.? Digg? Epinions.com? The scores of restaurant review websites?

What Am I Missing? (1)

Wabbit Wabbit (828630) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966340)

I took a look around the site and found the whole thing...underwhelming.

Am I missing something here? (not trolling; honest question)

1999 wants its site back... (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 7 years ago | (#17966620)

But instead of the reporting bias toward management and venture capitalists that is so common in the mainstream media


Venture capitalists? Did this story fall through a 1999 space-time rift?

(Pud, is that you?)

Full disclosure: I know these guys and have posted on the site, but I don't work for them.


OK, which one(s) are you sleeping with?

Re:1999 wants its site back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17968200)

OK, which one(s) are you sleeping with?

I hope that's not the case. Yikes. Anyway 45% of the site is dedicated to blowjobs "No, YOU were the best at the previous company we were at!", 45% "The company I was fired from before this is going down the tubes, look at their patent, har har!", and 10% scoops.

I don't think the owners thought their cunning plan all the way through -- this only appeals to locals and they aren't going to badmouth someone else (unless they have an axe to grind -- gee surprise most of the posts are about one particular company) as they might run into them later. I give this site 9 months.

Re:1999 wants its site back... (1)

enrgeeman (867240) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968778)

with all that talk about blowjobs i find it odd that you would give the site 9 months...

Vault.com (1)

cyranoVR (518628) | more than 7 years ago | (#17968168)

Vault.com [vault.com] tried this with their message boards in the late 90's. It failed spectacularly because disgruntled employees would post personal attacks against management on the site (accusations of illegal behavior, affairs, etc.), which would cause the companies to threaten law suits, etc. In extreme situations, managers who had been attacked on the site started posting offensive / racist postings, which led to even more lawsuits, harmed the site's reputation etc. In the end, they had to close off the message boards and make them subscription only.

Hmm...some of that sounds familiar actually!

Fuckedcompany.com (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#17968568)

Fuckedcompany.com. Next...

grassroots (1)

jbengt (874751) | more than 7 years ago | (#17972002)

What would prevent this site from being used by the companies for astro-turfing?

Re:grassroots (1)

Stugots (601806) | more than 7 years ago | (#17973048)

They could try. But if their information was incorrect, it should be "modded down" by the other users of the site.

The same question can be asked of slashdot. Yet many come here every day...
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