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Commodore Returns with New Gaming PCs

Hemos posted more than 7 years ago | from the everything-old-is-new-again dept.

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JamesO writes "Commodore is a name which will bring memories flooding back to many a gamer and it's been announced that the legendary brand is to return with a new range of high specification gaming PCs. The new Commodore PCs optimized for gaming will be launched at the CeBIT show in Germany on March 15 and attendees will be offered the chance to play the latest PC games using the purpose-built PCs."

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Its about time Lionel Ritchie changed career (5, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248856)

nuff said.

Re:Its about time Lionel Ritchie changed career (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249474)

sys64738

Commadore 64(bit) (4, Funny)

drspliff (652992) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248860)

Are these machines 64bit too?
It'd be nice bragging rights: I've got Linux/Windows running on a C64!

Re:Commadore 64(bit) (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249066)

Dangit! I was gonna make that comment...

I would love to get my new new Core2 Duo Extreme Commadore 64!

Re:Commadore 64(bit) (1)

oliderid (710055) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249280)

you meant 64KB?

Re:Commadore 64(bit) (2, Informative)

mlk (18543) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249318)

You can get a Unix/Linux [sourceforge.net] a-like for the C64. :)

Bit Early? (4, Funny)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248864)

It's a bit early for Slashdot to start posting lame April Fool's articles, right?

Re:Bit Early? (5, Funny)

rhyder128k (1051042) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249156)

Seems like the old ploy of slapping a respected old brand name on some unrelated kit. There is a company selling Acorn branded equipment in much the same manner:

http://www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact1698.html [drobe.co.uk]

I won't consider one of these machines to be a true Commodore until they start to do things like:
Refuse to give the currently running Star Trek series a free machine as a prop forcing paramount to acquire a Mac instead.
Make a cut-down budget machine that is more expensive to manufacture than the regular machine (a600).

When I have some *guarantees* that they are running the business into the ground even though they have massive lead over their competitors, then I'll consider this to be a Commodore. And not before!

Re:Bit Early? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249370)

You'll know this is the real C= when all the engineers quit and they axe development of a really cool machine in favour of a slapped together piece of crap that even the Taiwanese wouldn't ship.

Yes I am still bitter about the A3000+, A4000 and the post-AGA chipsets, why do you ask? Medhi Ali can...go do something very rude to himself.

Re:Bit Early? (1)

rjpear (1033976) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249622)

"When I have some *guarantees* that they are running the business into the ground even though they have massive lead over their competitors, then I'll consider this to be a Commodore. And not before!" ...Couldn't have been said any better!!!

Atari was a better system (4, Funny)

xzvf (924443) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248870)

My Atari 800 was way cooler than the C64

Re:Atari was a better system (4, Funny)

pipatron (966506) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248910)

That's because no one ever bothered to turn it on.

Re:Atari was a better system (2, Interesting)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248956)

Hey! Mine still works you insensitive clod!

Re:Atari was a better system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249126)

yeah coz u never used it! ;)

Re:Atari was a better system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249548)

Yes, but do you have any use for it? Everyone on Slashdot has a Thing that works, but isn't used much. Maybe this is just another case of that.

Re:Atari was a better system (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249332)

Proving once again the old physics adage: Everything's cold until it has a reason not to be.

-Eric

Re:Atari was a better system (4, Insightful)

Disoculated (534967) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248938)


I owned just about every home computer of that era, and the 800 was definitely second best to the C64. It should have been, it was much older. A steel frame only counts for so much.

On the other hand, there really isn't anything in this article about what the new 'Commodore' gaming computers really are... and it sounds like just more leeching off of a dead name.

Ironically (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18248872)

Commodore's PC division was one reason for Commodore's downfall.

Re:Ironically (1)

ggeens (53767) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249542)

I have a Commodore PC at home. It's just a standard 486 beige box[1] with a Commodore label on. I bought it second hand and used it as a firewall.

When one of my friends saw the label, he assumed it was some kind of joke. I had to explain that Commodore sold PCs before they went down.

[1] I think it was a Cyrix CPU.

Memory ? (1, Funny)

Rastignac (1014569) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248890)

As Commodore said a few years ago: " 64Ko ought to be enough for anybody. C64 rulez !".
I hope they'll stick more memory in their newest computer.

just a hunch (4, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248906)

I have a feeling this is doomed to fail. Anyone who is old enough to remember when Commodore was a decent gaming platform has probably grown into the type of person who builds his own machines. And the Amiga users will just sit there reminiscing about the good old days...

Re:just a hunch (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18248968)

I can recall the days when I would make a few mod's to my system, and run a remote control airplane from my c-64. I think it was the best documented hardware ever. I had so much fun with it that it lead me to become a became a radio shack regular.

I loved my c-64

Re:just a hunch (1)

slim (1652) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248980)

Anyone who is old enough to remember when Commodore was a decent gaming platform has probably grown into the type of person who builds his own machines.
Many will have got bored of tweaking and now be happy to buy a prebuilt machine -- sacrificing power and flexibility for convenience.

You only need to be 30 to remember Commodore with fondness. Whether that fondness will be enough for the brand to sell fairly ordinary PCs is another matter.

Re:just a hunch (1)

Elemenope (905108) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249186)

You only need to be 30 to remember Commodore with fondness.

Try 25. That's how old I am, and I remember my C64 as the first home PC my family had, till we upgraded to an 8088! I still remember it and its blue 'bootscreen' glow with fondness.

Re:just a hunch (2, Interesting)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249356)

I'm 21, and as my lame sig probably indicates, I played C64 games as a kid. And yeah, I've been building my own PCs since the early Athlons were around.

Re:just a hunch (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249298)

another 25er with fond C64 memories...

I remember when I had that and an Apple IIe... The poor fruit didn't get any attention...

Also, I build my own computers for the convinience... It's sad, but I find it easier to deal with the merchants and manufacturers of components when something goes wrong, than to deal with the tech support of most pre-builts. I get faster results too.

Re:just a hunch (5, Funny)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249342)

Many will have got bored of tweaking and now be happy to buy a prebuilt machine

You're right about that. There are so many different bus speeds, and CPU types, and memory types, and chipsets, and video cards, and so on and so on... Who wants to keep track of all that shit and build their own computer nowadays just to save $100? It used to be fun back in the day, but nowadays I just feel like, "Sheesh. Just give me something that works already so I can get back to re-drywalling my stupid living room..."

Re:just a hunch (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249456)

I'm 26 with very fond memories of being snowed in and playing Skyfox and a few others.

Re:just a hunch (4, Interesting)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249034)

I was going to argue with you.

However, I'm 40, and every machine I own (ten atm) is home built.

I guess you're right then.....

Re:just a hunch (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249110)

I wish I owned ten ATMs. I'd be able to buy just about anything I wanted...

Re:just a hunch (1)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249608)

Damn you, Captain Misconception...

Re:just a hunch (2, Informative)

mlk (18543) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249288)

I disagree. I don't want to piss about making a PC. I just want a powerful box that does what is says it does.

Re:just a hunch (2, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249386)

I have a feeling this is doomed to fail. Anyone who is old enough to remember when Commodore was a decent gaming platform has probably grown into the type of person who builds his own machines. And the Amiga users will just sit there reminiscing about the good old days...

No, they hide in dark places from the Atari users, who've been workin' out since the 1980's. We have Ninja skills, nunchuck skills, firearms skills, benchpress skills.

ATARI POSSE! REPRESENT!

Re:just a hunch (1)

ADRenalyn (598918) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249574)

I disagree.... anyone who is old enough to remember Commodore has probably been building their own PC's for many years, and the magic of assembling a working computer from various parts has lost any magic it once had.

Now, I'll spend a couple hundred extra dollars just so I don't have to go through the work of buying/ordering the parts and assembling the machine myself. Building a PC used to be fun, but it's a process that hasn't really changed much in years. Now, just let me pick the parts I want via an online order form, and ship it to me when it's done. That way all I have to do is format the drive and load my OS of choice.

In separate news... (4, Funny)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248908)

...the new Cray MCX, an amazing new supercomputer with a 2GHz Core2Duo, 512Mb of RAM, and a 40GB hard disk, goes on sale tomorrow.

I fail to see the point in this product being branded Commodore. It's another PC.

Re:In separate news... (2, Insightful)

newrisejohn (517586) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248952)

Macs are just another PC - despite this people still froth at the mouth for them. Maybe Commodore is trying to build on whatever brand power is left. (I am a Mac user and used to be a C64/C128 user, fyi)

Re:In separate news... (1)

paganizer (566360) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249018)

Cray is dead.
But it was sweet. the servers they were making in '93-'95 are only just now being outperformed.
I, personally, want a Cray Laptop. I used to joke about getting one with my friends, I've been thinking about taking my HP DV8230US and modding it to appear to be one for the next lan party.

Re:In separate news... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249122)

Cray is dead.

Netcraft confirms it!

Re:In separate news... (1)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249408)

The man may be dead but sgi failed to take down Cray with it. They still make clusters.

Re:In separate news... (2, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249120)

I fail to see the point in this product being branded Commodore. It's another PC.

You do realise that there have been Commodore PCs before - in that Commodore when it existed as a company made PCs?

There was a lot more to the Commodore brand than the Commodore 64, and all this is is reusing the brand. Is it pointless to use such a seemingly old brand? Well, it nonetheless seems to be getting them lots of extra publicity, which is really the whole point of using well known brandnames...

And as someone else pointed out, this isn't really any different to using the Macintosh brand for more than one platform (multiple CPU changes, and more notably, two entirely different operating systems). Apple did it because they knew that a "Mac" would have better chance than a new "NeXT".

Re:In separate news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249692)

Wait and see, Commodore was all about cool hardware, I'll bet they've put in a PPU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_processing_u nit [wikipedia.org] ) in this one along with monster graphics. The real cool thing would be if they've base-lined some kind of PC gaming API and ported it to linux as well.

20th Century PCs (4, Funny)

Otter Escaping North (945051) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248918)

"25 years ago, Commodore launched the best selling personal computer of the late 20th Century, the C64"

-- Bala Keilman, CEO for Commodore Gaming.

There's a CEO with vision for you. Best PC of the late 20th century. Would've been best all time except for getting pwned by the mid-16th century's "Conquistador 200."

Re:20th Century PCs (2, Funny)

slim (1652) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249008)

"25 years ago, Commodore launched the best selling personal computer of the late 20th Century, the C64"


-- Bala Keilman, CEO for Commodore Gaming.


There's a CEO with vision for you. Best PC of the late 20th century.

Best selling, fool!

Re:20th Century PCs (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249420)

The joke's still really funny.

Re:20th Century PCs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249434)

Yeah, well, I have a dream, and in that dream, Mhedi Ali(sp maybe?) and friends are still running that show, from a lawn chair someplace in the bahamas where they took the old commode door's accounts receivable and ran it into the ground by not doing any real R&D after the Amiga 4000. But they sure lived high on the hog there for a while. I guess thats my way of saying I'll be checking to see who's on the board before I support this new enterprise with the same name.

Re:20th Century PCs (1, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249352)

"Conquistador 200."

Hey! Mine still works you insensitive clod!

-Eric

Nostalgic name, but that's it. (5, Insightful)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248922)

I hate to be the cynical one this early in the morning, but it's worth noting that the Commodore brand name has been bought, sold, lost, found, and liquidated ridiculously often [wikipedia.org] since its 1980s heyday. The current owners of the Commodore logo and brand name have about as much connection with the people who made the C64 and VIC20 as the current telephone companies have with Alexander Graham Bell.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (1)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249016)

Yes, but it would still be kinda nice to own a Commodore (Athlon) 64.

I just wish that they'd use original C-64-like cases..

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (1)

WS Tu (1045270) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249098)

Maybe some old-fashioned would like to buy computers looks like
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d /Commodore64.jpg [wikimedia.org] or http://www.softwolves.pp.se/cbm/minaburkar/pics/cb m64-exterior.jpg [softwolves.pp.se]
But I really not expect too much for such a company.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (0, Offtopic)

KKlaus (1012919) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249084)

Well said. But my mod points expired yesterday... and I finally find something I want to mod up. Aaah!

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (4, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249232)

The current owners of the Commodore logo and brand name have about as much connection with the people who made the C64 and VIC20 as the current telephone companies have with Alexander Graham Bell.

Welcome to business. This is true with an awful lot of brandnames. They get bought and sold (e.g., in the UK, the cable company NTL recently renamed to Virgin Media, but it's still basically NTL and not Virgin). But then, even within the same company, over a period of decades you often won't have the same people working there anymore, so it's hard to see there's really a connection, plus of course, even whole companies can be bought and sold, not to mention made public, so often the "current owners" have nothing to do with the people who originally started it.

I suppose I can see why geeks would be more likely to prefer that brandnames were used on technical similarities rather than for reasons of marketing. Although then again, no one seems to care about reusing the Macintosh brand for different operating systems, or reusing brandnames like "Playstation" for completely different consoles - for some reason it only seems to be the Commodore (and perhaps also Amiga) brands which people complain about here.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (1)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249472)

Well, the Macintosh and PlayStation are both backward compatible with their predecessors. The SNES is a better example; to play NES games it needed a third party emulator which was more expensive than a NES.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (3, Interesting)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249518)

I suppose I can see why geeks would be more likely to prefer that brandnames were used on technical similarities rather than for reasons of marketing. Although then again, no one seems to care about reusing the Macintosh brand for different operating systems, or reusing brandnames like "Playstation" for completely different consoles - for some reason it only seems to be the Commodore (and perhaps also Amiga) brands which people complain about here.
Still, some brand names remain a bit constant. If you happened to be hanging around Apple headquarters, you might bump into Steve Jobs or Woz. The current Apple grew directly from the guys who were building the IIc in the 1980s. You could conceivably still find Shigeru Miyamoto running around the Nintendo offices, and you'd know that you're at the birthplace of the NES you were so glued to way back when. Hate Microsoft all you like, but you can still point to Gates and Ballmer and know that these are a couple of the guys responsible for that ubiquitous MS-DOS stuff you used to play with.

Brand loyalty can be a funny and superficial thing, and I'm not usually a practitioner of it myself, but I still prefer to see it used by those who earned it rather than third parties who scoop up names that others built. As another commenter on this story wrote, it feels pretty much like the retail version of domain squatting.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (2, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249642)

Still, some brand names remain a bit constant. If you happened to be hanging around Apple headquarters, you might bump into Steve Jobs or Woz. The current Apple grew directly from the guys who were building the IIc in the 1980s. You could conceivably still find Shigeru Miyamoto running around the Nintendo offices, and you'd know that you're at the birthplace of the NES you were so glued to way back when. Hate Microsoft all you like, but you can still point to Gates and Ballmer and know that these are a couple of the guys responsible for that ubiquitous MS-DOS stuff you used to play with.

Sure, you can point to some companies where important guys are still around, but similarly there are other brands used where the original guys involved have long since left (Atari would be one example).

Brand loyalty can be a funny and superficial thing, and I'm not usually a practitioner of it myself, but I still prefer to see it used by those who earned it rather than third parties who scoop up names that others built.

As I do too - although there isn't just the case of brand loyalty, there's also brand awareness. Consider the free marketing they get with using this brand...

As another commenter on this story wrote, it feels pretty much like the retail version of domain squatting.

See my reply to that comment.

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (2, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249302)

I suspect they'll basically just be selling the Commodore logo sticker slapped onto on a modern PC. Of course, anyone could just make a sticker themselves, slap in on their existing computer, and save a lot of money.

-Eric

Re:Nostalgic name, but that's it. (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249598)

I agree with you, I'm just wondering how far they'll carry the nostalgia.

Will the system have a built in C64 emulator? Will they just toss in some Commodore desktop logos and screen-savers?

I have no brand loyalty anymore for systems, I just got tired of building my own. If this is priced reasonably I'll buy it for the sticker.

Loading games (5, Funny)

nodrogluap (165820) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248940)

To load the games, will you still need to do

LOAD "*",8,1
RUN... :-)

Re:Loading games (1)

jacerie (1071646) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248984)

That'd kick ass... at least it would be a small sign of stability.

Re:Loading games (1)

ShapeGSX (865697) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249178)

No no no. All the cool games will run like this: LOAD "*",8,1 SYS 49152

Re:Loading games (5, Informative)

Experiment 626 (698257) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249382)

Programs loaded into the C64 with LOAD "*",8 loaded into the beginning of BASIC memory and had to be executed with RUN, but LOAD "*",8,1 loaded the program into a specific location in memory. This could be done for programs started up with SYS (execution jumps to a specific address in memory), as another reply mentions. The most popular use of ",1" however was to overwrite memory such that the address the system returned to after it finished loading would contain a run instruction, causing the program execute with no further intervention after the LOAD command. Or am I overanalyzing the joke and being pedantic?

Re:Loading games (3, Funny)

ElephanTS (624421) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249630)

Or am I overanalyzing the joke and being pedantic?

You betcha!

Re:Loading games (1)

Kythe (4779) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249650)

Or am I overanalyzing the joke and being pedantic

Not at all :)

I wrote a few autoloading programs myself for the C64. They'd use the ",8,1" suffix and load into the stack area, which (fortunately) was located south of location "x0101", if I recall correctly. You could just make the first few tens of bytes "x01" so that the return from the LOAD subroutine would start executing your program immediately (usually a small machine language program at x0101 that would finish the loading process). It was probably a pretty common way to do things, but certainly handy.

Damn, brings back memories.

Re:Loading games (1)

Miamicanes (730264) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249398)

No, you'd press C= + RUNSTOP :-)

I paid $99 for Fastload the day it came out, and it was worth every penny... that program absolutely saved my sanity.

Re:Loading games (1)

rjpear (1033976) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249670)

Beautiful!!! Flashback...1984... The Commodore 1541 Drive Overheats and melts a Plastic Army Man who was perched on the drive protecting the VicModem... Luckily the 1541 Lives to fight another day.. The same cannot be said for the plastic Army man.. 'snif..

Don't RTFA (5, Interesting)

PadRacerExtreme (1006033) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248958)

The whole thing is in the summary. Why bother linking to a blog with no real information in it?
<sigh>

Re:Don't RTFA (1)

NayDizz (821461) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249182)

Perhaps the miniscule chance that all the /. traffic might result in a few ad-clicks?

apples and oranges (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18248988)

There's a slight difference between sticking a known logo on a mass manufactured hardware and actually designing innovative chips like C= did in the 80's.
There's a reason if someone [sidstation.com] still uses that technology today.
Today, even AmigaOS would be a top seller if only those bastar^H^Hkind folks who own the rights would open source it or actually do something with it, like porting the system to tablets and portable computers, instead of letting it die slowly.

Just a name... (1, Redundant)

Zeek40 (1017978) | more than 7 years ago | (#18248994)

Judging by the number of times that Commodore has been liquidated and sold [wikipedia.org] , I don't really see how new company releasing computers under an old (albeit famous) name which it bought the rights to is much news...

backward compatable (1)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249022)

I just hope they are backward compatable.....

Is it gonna be called (3, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249032)

the Vic 2.0?

Re:Is it gonna be called (4, Funny)

operagost (62405) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249406)

** CBM BASIC V2 **
3583 MEGABYTES FREE

READY.

liquidation (0, Redundant)

gerrysteele (927030) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249038)

I'm guessing that after liquidation the brand was sold off by the creditors. So this prob has as much to do with the original c64 et al as a jelly fish and a porn star.

They are just going to be PCs with a Commodore sticker on them. I'd say trying to comptete with Alienware etc.

Re:liquidation (1)

backwardMechanic (959818) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249094)

as a jelly fish and a porn star

You saw that one too? What did you think of the plot?

Re:liquidation (1)

trongey (21550) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249228)

as a jelly fish and a porn star


You saw that one too? What did you think of the plot?

Oh, yeah, right. Like anyone who's watched that flick paid any attention to the plot.

Re:liquidation (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249350)

So this prob has as much to do with the original c64 et al as a jelly fish and a porn star.

I'd say it has as much to do with the original Commodore PCs (yes, they made PCs back then) as say, a modern Dell PC has to do with, I don't know, a Dell PC of 15 years ago?

Those Dell PCs are just PCs with a Dell sticker on!!

Why PC? (1)

mnmn (145599) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249048)

PC is just regular, and this seems like the brand name has been pasted onto beige run-of-the-mill PCs.

I'd rather see (and purchase) a custom ARM9-based PC with ZetaOS or something with a very funky basic compiler/interpreter on which all programs use BASIC. ARM9 should also bring the price sufficiently down to make the product a success over regular PCs (I mean in the hobbyist market).

Re:Why PC? (1)

l0rd (52169) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249198)

Sorry to be a Negative Nancy, but why?

I for one have fond memories when computers came with a basic compiler and you could do extremely cool (for then) things with them straight out of the box. You got fed up with a game? Write a crack. You didn't want to pay for some shareware? Write a crack. You wanted to see see what cool stuff your computer could do? Write a small demo.

However those days are (sadly) long gone. As todays computers are ridiculously cheap, it wouldn't make sense to buy a sperate one just because basic came as standard, when these days you can install linux and get everything you need. I mean common, who needs basic when you've got a superior language like C to play with?

Sheesh. (1)

porkchop_d_clown (39923) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249080)

Everybody's favorite computing zombie rises from the grave one more time.

I loved my C64 and my Amigas but, really, isn't this just the retail version of domain squatting?

Re:Sheesh. (1)

UziBeatle (695886) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249242)


  Yeah. It's a big yawn really to any of us old enough to have owned a Vic 20 or later and really
insulting to boot. Commodore went tits up years ago and the name was purchased , if I recall correctly,
some bunch of 'furners'.

  Buying a PC like this based on some loyalty to a name brand would be like buying a 'Magnavox' or
'Zenith' TV today. All those old American based company's went by the wayside and the rights to the
names bought up by 'furner' outsourcers. Only a ignorant nit would buy based on those company names.
    Course the world is full of nits.

  Unless this zombie can prove they offer kick ass product and kick ass quality rating for a kick
ass low price they will just be some small nothing flopping around like brainless undead.

 

Re:Sheesh. (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249290)

I loved my C64 and my Amigas but, really, isn't this just the retail version of domain squatting?

No, because unlike domain squatting, this company have a legal right to use the name Commodore (at least, I presume).

The domain name equivalent would be when a company buys a domain and trademark to use for their product, whether or not it's related to the original usage - but oh wait, that happens all the time in business.

TV output? (2, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249106)

The original C=64 could output to a TV, and most games for the platform anticipated this. They also were optimized for joystick or joystick+partial keyboard control. But unfortunately, few games for Windows anticipate reading input from two USB gamepads and displaying output on a standard-definition TV. Does Commodore plan to revive the development of TV-friendly computer games?

Re:TV output? (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249158)

Does Commodore plan to revive the development of TV-friendly computer games?
In an era where the majority of console makers seem to be pushing towards HDTV over standard def, I'd doubt very much that the current Commodore company would be going the opposite way. However, if you're that into it, you could always get one of these. [wikipedia.org]

Input is the other problem (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249412)

In an era where the majority of console makers seem to be pushing towards HDTV over standard def, I'd doubt very much that the current Commodore company would be going the opposite way
But even with games designed to operate at HDTV resolutions such as 1280x720 or 1920x1080 pixels, the keyboard and mouse mentality and one-person-per-machine mentality remain. Why aren't more PC games designed for multiple USB gamepads plugged into a USB hub? Where's the PC answer to Smash Bros. or a Bomberman that has been updated for this decade?

Re:TV output? (1)

pizpot (622748) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249272)

hmmm. I plug a PC into my widescreen sometimes. Let me say that 1360x768 @32" is really nice. A tv with a proper scaler is a must though. Shoot, with this one, I can watch youtube at 640x480 and zoom it full screen (not youtubes lame fullscreen full of artifacts)

No want old style tv's anymore!!!

That said, soon after I got a C64 I needed glasses. I purposely didn't go into Comp Sci because I thought all computers would give you 20 FPS headaches. Elite was a good game.

In other news... (3, Funny)

broller (74249) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249128)

Abraham Lincoln announced his candidacy for president this morning. Abraham "Honest Abe" Lincoln, a businessman from Chicago announced Tuesday before an invitation-only crowd of "four score and seven" supporters that he intended to "officially throw my stove-pipe hat into the ring." Mr. Lincoln, born Abraham Leibowitz, says that he changed his name last year, "because Leibowitz is hard for voters to spell." His opponents have said that Lincoln is merely trying to capitalize on the popularity of the sixteenth president's name. Lincoln asked that his supporters help to suppress this rumor, adding, "Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed."

Awesome! (2, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249140)

I can't wait to play Zork on a 64-bit Athlon 5200+!

And it that gets boring, I can play all of Raid over Bungling Bay in 27 millisecond!

Machines optimized for gaming... (3, Funny)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249176)

So they're running Linux, right?

The Real Question is... (1)

Lifyre (960576) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249214)

Where will they put the Cartridge connector?

Already have one (5, Insightful)

Zedrick (764028) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249222)

I put a nice, thick Commodore sticker on my homebuilt 64-bit desktop.

It's just as much "Commodore" as these machines. Perhaps even more so, since I've also got a real C-1541 connected to it.

Let me guess (1)

J05H (5625) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249262)

The new machines will be ready in 2 weeks?

(that's for all you old Amiga fans)

I remain dubious (1)

Notabadguy (961343) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249448)

I want to see specs. Purpose-built machines are already flooding the market. Want a gaming machine? Try Alienware, Zeus-PC, Powernotebokes, Hyperion, one of the bunches of companies that already make custom built gaming machines. Unless Commodore has some ingenious plans for publishing proprietary content that can only be played on their custom PC....can you think of any reason why someone would want to buy one of their computers? ----- Thought begets heresy; Heresy begets Retribution.

Damn I just got rid of my 20 lb C64 floppy drive (1)

pete.com (741064) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249450)

It figures.....

Again?... (1)

toszcze (1072368) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249492)

Some time ago Commodore have tried to come back into a IT business. They've failed. Now they try again - I don't know why.
"Making PCs isn't so difficult thing, right?... So maybe we will try?...".

So... (1)

TrappedByMyself (861094) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249528)

I guess this means that someone is going to build over-priced PCs with Commodore stickers on them?

I would say that this is doomed to fail, except that I know there is a market of 30 something virgins with $$ to burn who are going to impress each other with their fancy new Commordore stickered over-priced PCs.

Thi will piss off commador enthusiasts (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249536)

and go into an already flooded market.

Good thinking.

How 'bout a modern C64 instead? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249562)

The selling point of Commodore machines back in the day was affordability. I remember a C64 being in stores for $200.

If Commodore had produced expensive high-end machines, nobody would remember them now. They'd have died a lot earlier.

I'd really like a nice small form factor machine today, but I certainly will not buy a high-end gaming machine. Nor do I think the world needs yet another high-end gaming manufacturer (Dell XPS, Alienware...)

It is rumored that ... (1)

DiscWolf (976849) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249644)

the C64 will be the only machine capable of running Duke Nukem Forever.

When Commodore... (5, Interesting)

smokin_juan (469699) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249648)

When Commodore -

- returns to making computers that boots in one second -
- creates an OS that has programming languages built-in and ready to go -
- designs a machine that will fit in a backpack -
- invents a clock that keeps time without power -
- does something revolutionary -

that's when I'll buy another Commodore. I'll be damned if I let a group of people manipulate my nostalgia to sell me something as common as air.

Amiga OS 4 (1)

killeena (794394) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249684)

Maybe they should make a system that is able to run Amiga OS 4 [hyperion-e...inment.biz]
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