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MyEclipse 5.1.1 GA Supports Eclipse 3.2.2 & Vi

Hemos posted more than 7 years ago | from the new-support-coming- dept.

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RobK writes "The GA release of MyEclipse 5.1.1 is now available for immediate download and is compatible with Eclipse 3.2.2, Windows Vista. The release also includes an enhanced and professionally supported version of Eclipse WTP 1.5.3 with many MyEclipse improvements and bug fixes, as well as Fully I18N enabled. "

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What does this have to do with Vi? (4, Funny)

bad_fx (493443) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249838)

...and why wasn't emacs mentioned you bastards! :p

PS: presumably it should be "Vista"...?

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (1)

joschm0 (858723) | more than 7 years ago | (#18249942)

You mean VI-sta?

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251944)

I actually read the article in the hope that it would be some Eclipse/vi hybrid environment. Finally a java editor where the autocompletion is faster than typing by hand.
No such luck, I guess.

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (1)

kusanagi374 (776658) | more than 7 years ago | (#18254138)

But I use nano you insensitive clod!

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18254472)

Actually, just yesterday I was praying for VI key bindings for eclipse. The headline got me excited. Does anyone know if there actually exists a vi plugin for eclipse?

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (1)

IAN (30) | more than 7 years ago | (#18255132)

Actually, just yesterday I was praying for VI key bindings for eclipse.

There is a quite decent vi plugin [satokar.com] for Eclipse (payware, but worth it if you don't want to fight your muscle memory.)

Re:What does this have to do with Vi? (1)

dfries (466073) | more than 7 years ago | (#18257442)

I'll just stick to vim, it's a better vi than vi ever was. Multilevel undo alone makes it worth it.

Is is an Ad? I can't tell (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18249912)

Is it me, is is this an ad for someone trying to sell Eclipse?

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (1)

Radice Utente (599989) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250110)

http://www.eclipse.org/ [eclipse.org] Eclipse is an Open Source development framework. Or are you commenting on the format of the link?

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (2, Insightful)

pasamio (737659) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250166)

MyEclipse is something that you have to pay for, this is seperate to the generic Eclipse. The fact that this is a link to a pay for product where a major feature being that it works on Vista (I would wonder how many of the Slashdot care if it works on Vista, let alone acquire it when they can put together Eclipse themselves). So he would be commenting on the actual product being linked to if your read the slashvertisement/article/press release. IMHO its an ad.

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (3, Interesting)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250212)

He was referring to the fact that some company has taken Eclipse, slapped it on a box and charged a yearly "membership" fee as well as rebranding it "MyEclipse".

The names a bit confusing to me. Isn't it more "MyEcplise" when its .. free? If I'm paying for it then I think its really "YourEclipse" that I'm just renting. Or maybe the My just refers to them in the first place.

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (1)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250362)

Maybe the problem is they think it's TheirEclipse.

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (1)

HvitRavn (813950) | more than 7 years ago | (#18254826)

So what happened to OurEclipse? Oh wait, I guess it's still alive and well [eclipse.org] :)

You must be new here (1, Redundant)

fistfullast33l (819270) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250186)

Yes, this is a typical example of a slashvertisement. Nothing to see, move along.

Re:You must be new here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18257516)

I see YOU didn't move on.

Mod Parent up (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269622)

It doesn't strike me as redundant to point out that this story is slashvertising. It is not tagged as such, so a having highly visible post saying so would be nicer than burying the post.

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (1)

Azarael (896715) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250380)

MyEclipse is an extension of Eclipse with a bunch proprietary J2EE build tools. There are similar free tools available as well, like Netbeans 5.5.

Re:Is is an Ad? I can't tell (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 7 years ago | (#18260458)

I didnt see a free edition, so ya, id say this is an ad.

slashvertisement? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18250122)

What's this article about? A product called MyEclipse that is subscription-based ($30 or $50 per year depending on who you are) and that most users (including Eclipse users) will probably not be interested in anyway. Furthermore, the main feature touted in the press release relayed here on Slashdot is the support for Windows Vista. How is this news for nerds or stuff that matters?

Re:slashvertisement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251688)

It is interesting that this anonymous comment was modded as Redundant although it is the only one that mentions the price tag and according to the time stamps, it was posted half an hour before the other comment saying that MyEclipse is a commercial version of Eclipse.

vi? bah (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250170)

Everyone knows that ed is the standard text editor [gnu.org] .

Re:vi? bah (1)

TaGGarT (10650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250244)

Don't be silly Lord Ender, everyone knows that cat along with it's sidekick ^d are the preferred editor of champions. :)

Why? (2, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250176)

What does the commercial MyEclipse have, that the open source Eclipse hasn't?

Re:Why? (1)

MythMoth (73648) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250426)

Not a great deal.

Last time I used it, it had a few plugins (Spring for example) and wizards included automatically, but nothing for which there weren't adequate or superior alternatives.

On the whole I prefered Eclipse with the Web Tools Platform and any other plugins specific to the tasks I was actually involved in. Unless it's advanced a great deal, don't bother.

Re:Why? (1)

frodo from middle ea (602941) | more than 7 years ago | (#18255320)

WTP was the reason I switched from Eclipse to Netbeans 5.5.
WTP is a complete mess.

Re:Why? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251286)

What does the commercial MyEclipse have, that the open source Eclipse hasn't?

It's not a buggy piece of shit like WTP is. Granted, MyEclipse actually uses components of WTP, just not the buggy ones (app server support for example, which is very important).

What? (3, Funny)

Yosho (135835) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250188)

I use Eclipse, and I don't even have any idea what this article is about. What is MyEclipse? What is a GA release? What does it have to do with Vi? What is Eclipse WTP? Why should I care if it's "fully I18n enabled"? Could you please explain anything about what you're talking about?

Re:What? (5, Informative)

g051051 (71145) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250406)

MyEclipse is an add on that enhances the base Eclipse package. www.myeclipseide.org for more info.

GA Release means General Availabiliy (a full release as opposed to a M releae, or milestone)

Vi looks like a typo, they meant Vista, I think.

Eclipse WTP is the Eclipse Web Tools Project.

I18n is shorthand for "internationalization".

All of which you would already have know if you actually used Eclipse like you said.

Re:What? (1)

Yosho (135835) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250704)

That comment of yours doesn't even make sense; you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse but I don't, and that using it somehow bestows knowledge of third-party extensions upon the user. What would be the point of lying about that? Are you just trying to start a fight?

I don't do web development, anyway, so I'm not at all familiar with the WTP. And I know what "I18n" means -- the question is, why do I care? How is it relevant to the rest of the summary?

Besides that, my post was intended as less of an inquiry and more of a comment on how horribly written the summary is.

Amnesia much (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251248)

you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse but I don't

What?
(Score:3, Funny)
by Yosho (135835) Alter Relationship on 10:53 AM March 6th, 2007 (#18250188)
I use Eclipse, and I don't even have any idea what this article is about.

In short,

At 10:53 AM EST, you were an Eclipse user

By 11:31 AM EST, you are no longer an Eclipse user

What happened in those 40 minutes that made you switch?

Re:Amnesia much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18253728)

Your reading comprehension is amazing.
Let me reword it for GP:
you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse but I don't
... turns into:
you're inferring that: I said I used Eclipse without actually using it. That is a wrong assumption as GP already confirmed using it.

Re:What? (1)

g051051 (71145) | more than 7 years ago | (#18251668)

You said in your original post: "I use Eclipse, and I don't even have any idea what this article is about". Now you say "you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse but I don't". Which is it?

Re:What? (1)

robthebob (742982) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252584)

He says he uses Eclipse, and you are inferring that he although he said he does, in actual fact he doesn't.

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18252792)

Yes, that clears it up

Re:What? (1)

g051051 (71145) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252842)

I guess I misunderstood because of how horribly written the original question was.

Re:What? (1)

Yosho (135835) | more than 7 years ago | (#18253352)

Ok, I think you need to go and review your grade school punctuation classes. I said this:
"you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse but I don't"
not this:
"you're inferring that I said I used Eclipse, but I don't"

Can you tell what the difference between those is? I'll give you a hint: you think I meant the second.

Re:What? (1)

g051051 (71145) | more than 7 years ago | (#18254248)

I guess I misunderstood because of how horribly written your original question was.

Re:What? (1)

Phoe6 (705194) | more than 7 years ago | (#18251934)

>>Vi looks like a typo, they meant Vista, I think.

I thought much needed full vim support. Vista.. No. I already have an operating system.

Re:What? (1)

roscivs (923777) | more than 7 years ago | (#18251970)

Vi looks like a typo, they meant Vista, I think.

I was so excited, too. I've wanted vi support in Eclipse for ages now. I even started a plugin (http://viclipse.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] ) that didn't get very far.

Re:What? (1)

charlesbakerharris (623282) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252254)

Vi looks like a typo, they meant Vista, I think.

I really hope you're joking.

DAMN... you're right... no vi support (1)

Sir_Real (179104) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252400)

I've been begging for someone to integrate vi into eclipse. For years. viPlugin sucks. There are a couple other projects, one that integrates gvim via the eclipse modular editor framework stuff, but it is also useless. Anyone know of a good way to get vi stuff working in eclipse?

Re:What? (1)

Myopic (18616) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252854)

Don't be so hard on him. I use Eclipse, and I do know what MyEclipse is, and have used it, but I have never called release software "GA", and have never use "l18n" as shorthand for "internationalization". Furthermore, I am not familiar with this Web Tools Project, though it sounds like something I better look up, since that's what I do -- use Eclipse to build web stuff. (Hey, I use whatever tool my boss tells me to use, but maybe he missed a good one.)

Anyway, the mods were right, you were +5 Informative, if maybe -1 Haughty.

Re:What? (1)

g051051 (71145) | more than 7 years ago | (#18252968)

Only a -1 Haughty? I must be losing my touch.

Re:What? (1)

Zutroy Of Earth (114413) | more than 7 years ago | (#18253050)

> All of which you would already have know if you actually used Eclipse like you said.

That's funny, I use Eclipse and I had no idea what MyEclipse, GA, M and WTP meant! I must have forgotten to install the InstantKnowledge(tm) plugin :p

Btw, Eclipse has many plugins, some of which have nothing to do with web development or java ...

Z.

Re:What? (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269518)

All of which you would already have know if you actually used Eclipse like you said.

What a load of complete and utter bullshit. If I had the mod points buddy......

I read the crap summary and had no idea what MyEclipse is, what GA or WTP stands for or that Vi is supposed to be Vista. I've been using Eclipse for four or five years now, just not with commercial extensions or plugins that I don't need.

That you were not modded troll to oblivion is amazing. Bullshit disguised as superiority is far more repulsive than the ordinary kind.

Re:What? (1)

jalefkowit (101585) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250410)

I use Eclipse, and I don't even have any idea what this article is about. What is MyEclipse? What is a GA release? What does it have to do with Vi? What is Eclipse WTP? Why should I care if it's "fully I18n enabled"? Could you please explain anything about what you're talking about?

You must be new here!

I've used it.... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18250446)

When I came into my new job I was given MyEclipse as my dev environment. At first I was a little wary, cause I asked all the same questions everyone else seems to be asking now. Whats the big deal, why am I using this thing when Eclipse is free and I can do everything this does?

After some time using it though, I realize there are some very useful features. For example, you can easily add struts, springs, and hibernate support to your application. There is a very handy GUI based struts config tools, as well as a way to generate hibernate mappings and all your POJOs automatically using a connection to your DB.

On the other hand, these features have their draw backs. For example, some average Jon who really doesn't know how the stuff is supposed to work can come in a slap all this stuff together to make one horribly constructed and poorly designed application. People will use the technologies, and may even claim they now how to, on a resume, for example, but really not know.

Having these automated tools, is a nice and handy time saver, but its no excuse for actually knowing how to do things by hand.

Re:I've used it.... (1)

chochos (700687) | more than 7 years ago | (#18253378)

I use SpringIDE pluging on Eclipse 3.2 and it works great for spring beans. There are several plugins to work with Hibernate, which can generate POJOs based on the mappings file, or viceversa. I don't use Struts, but I bet there are many plugins for that too. I use JBoss and the JBossIDE is pretty good. I can also test DB connections from Eclipse. So what am I missing here?

Re:I've used it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18253992)

Absolutely nothing. Because on top of that I quickly found after a little searching a struts GUI config plugin.

I don't really enjoy using it, it basically just gives you all these plugins pre-plugged in for you, and personally, I've always been an advocate of a little elbow grease to save some money. But, alas, I did not make the choice, and since its already been paid for I might as well take advantage.

Just A Commercial Eclipse (2, Insightful)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 7 years ago | (#18250550)

Hmmm, this just looks like a commercially supported version of Eclipse. I suppose if one wants professional support, it could be something useful. But I'm pretty cheap/poor, so I'll have to pass and keep using the free Eclipse.

Re:Just A Commercial Eclipse (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251036)

MyEclipse is a set of J2EE plugins for Eclipse, so if you only work with "Hello World!" apps, you'll be fine with Eclipse. I use MyEclipse 4.0.0 on a daily basis and I really like it. It is a cheap alternative ($50/yr) to IBM J2EE toolset that can cost 1000's of dollars. MyEclipse is indeed a poor man's WSAD (WebSphere Application Developer). Thumbs up for MyEclipse and the whole Eclipse initiative.

Never trust anything with "My" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18251120)

What a poor choice for a product name. As someone who spends most of their day cleaning spyware and crap out of computers for people, I have to say that anything with "My" in the name is sure sign of malware. (notwithstanding "my computer" and "my documents" on windows, which are just badly named in the first place).

Exception that proves the rule (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 7 years ago | (#18251452)

MySql. But, in retrospect, it would make more sense to name it something else. like SQLicious, SQLator, SQLphin ( SQL + Dolphin).

Re:Exception that proves the rule (1)

anokun7 (941199) | more than 7 years ago | (#18261986)

If I really need to pay for an IDE, then I would buy IntelliJ IDEA [http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/], Eclipse is good as a free tool, it is fantastic as a free tool, but I scarcely see it giving a run for IntelliJ IDEA as far as usability, performance and features are concerned. Of course there is a plugin for everything in Eclipse, but that in my opinion just makes it that much complicated....

Even in free tools, I see Sun's Netbeans making huge strides in usability that Eclipse is almost playing catch-up (ruby (RoR), idm integration etc)

A recent Eclipse user... and IDEA convert.

Saves a lot of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18261160)

I don't use MyEclipse myself, but what I saw when I tried it is that it bundles a lot of free plugins. Sure you can download them all for free, but for 30$, it can saves you a lot of time. If you're payed 60$ an hour, after half an hour you're beginning to save money...

Has Eclipse got any better?? (2, Interesting)

anokun7 (941199) | more than 7 years ago | (#18262394)

If I really need to pay for an IDE, then I would buy IntelliJ IDEA [http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/], Eclipse is good as a free tool, it is fantastic as a free tool, but I scarcely see it giving a run for IntelliJ IDEA as far as usability and features are concerned. Of course there is a plugin for everything in Eclipse, but that in my opinion just makes it that much complicated.... Even in free tools I see NetBeans getting far ahead in the long run against Eclipse. A recent Eclipse user.. and IDEA convert
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