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NASA Fires Astronaut

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the were-the-diapers-too-much dept.

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davidwr writes "In an unprecedented move for an unprecedented situation, NASA has fired now-former astronaut Lisa Nowack. She is facing charges of attempted kidnapping related to an incident earlier this year. Ms. Nowack is a Navy officer and remains so."

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Has anyone tried (4, Funny)

Normal Dan (1053064) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269462)

listening to her side of the story?

Re:Has anyone tried (5, Funny)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269542)

Yes, I agree. I would certainly like to know the perfectly rational reason for driving 900 miles in diapers, and then tracking down and pepper-spraying someone you have never met, in an airport parking lot.

        Brett

Re:Has anyone tried (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269616)

She got pushed from business to coach and had no time to stop driving to make her flight?

Re:Has anyone tried (3, Funny)

Normal Dan (1053064) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269670)

That "someone" put her through a lot of needless emotional pain. Perhpas that "someone" will now think twice before so carelessly hurting others, thus making this world a better place for all. Some might even say Lisa is a hero among heros.

As for the diapers. Well, that is so you can drive non stop. Duh.

See? It is all perfectly rational.

Re:Has anyone tried (2, Funny)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269914)

You know what I blame this on the breakdown of? Society. [/Syzlak]

      Brett

Re:Has anyone tried (0)

JimDaGeek (983925) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270066)

Are you for real? Just because this psycho-chick had her feelings hurt you want to excuse her actions? Please. The chick drove 900 miles in adult diapers and pissed her pants. Jeez. How much more psycho can you get? How many people wear diapers when they drive so they do not have to pull over? How many people piss their pants in diapers when they drive so they do not have to pull over?

Oh, and then there is the whole pepper spray thing. Out of a jealous rage, she pepper sprayed some chick because some fellow astronaut didn't want her any more. Oh, boo-hoo. Get over it.

NASA astronauts need to be the "best of the best". We are planning on sending some astronauts, both male and female, to Mars for like a 30 month journey. The last thing we need on a 30 month journey in close quarters is some jealous chick that is going to go "Dahmer" on the whole crew because some other female astronaut looked at "her man". Astronauts should not be allowed to have intimate relations with one another. There are "plenty of fish in the sea" that should allow all astronauts to have intimate relations with non-astronauts.

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270104)

i think that was SARCASM

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270080)

We are in charge of our emotions.

Hers got away.

Professionalism went away.

There's plausible evidence that it was attempted murder. Needless emotional pain, and every other kind of pain, is no excuse for her inappropriate and aggressive behavior. If she's a hero, then people are misguided. Weak excuses for revenge are the commuppance of schnooks.

Re:Has anyone tried (4, Insightful)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269566)

I'm sure many people have... including the mental health professionals responsible for certifying that the astronauts are maintaining the presence of mind and emotional stability necessary to perform what is a very demanding, stressful, and risky job.

I'd imagine that it takes very little in the way of strange behavior to disqualify a person for astronaut duty, regardless of what their explanation is. Even if her behavior was totally justified and not in any way her fault, the fact that she ended up behaving this way probably means she's not good astronaut material anymore. Astronauts should generally not respond to environmental or emotional stress by flipping out and committing crimes.

Navy responsible for her next assignment? (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269846)

Flying helicopters. In Anbar province.

Re:Has anyone tried (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269572)

guiltyuntilproveninnocent

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269584)

I'd love to see her explain it all on "Larry King Live."

Re:Has anyone tried (2, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269990)

I'm sure she can become a professional pundit:

"You know, Larry, before I went completely blitzo, drove 900 miles in diapers to kill my would-be boyfriend's love interest, I too believed that Mormons didn't buy nearly enough Elton John records."

Re:Has anyone tried (2, Funny)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270262)

The diaper thing makes me think she'd be pushing George Clinton and Parliament/Funkadelic records rather than Elton.

Re:Has anyone tried (2, Insightful)

Original Replica (908688) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269596)

Oefelein told investigators he and Nowak both served on the bicycling team at NASA and had been involved in a sexual relationship for some time. He said he met Shipman in November 2006 while he was involved in pre-launch training at Kennedy Space Center. In January 2007, Oefelein said, he told Nowak he wanted to date Shipman "exclusively."

Even if Oefelein handled things poorly or strung her along a bit (I'm not asserting that he did this)her reaction still made her unfit to be an astronaut. She reacts unpredictably to emotional stress, who wants to fly with her?

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269624)

What more is there? She flipped out over a love triangle. She went directly from jail in Florida to a psychological evaluation by NASA in Texas. If she can lose it on the ground, she can lose it in space. So NASA's decision to let her go was probably sound based on what she told them and her evaluation.

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269806)

If she can lose it on the ground, she can lose it in space.

I'm just glad she didn't lose it on any of those test flights near Washington...

Re:Has anyone tried (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269742)

I haven't personally listened to her side of the story, but I intend to just as soon as get the run down from the bum who hangs around my office building raving about aliens and mind control and such. As soon as I get that straight, I'm sure to want to hear about the benefits of driving in diapers.

Hey, doesn't the US have minimum sanity standards for officers in the armed services?

Re:Has anyone tried (5, Funny)

sehlat (180760) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269860)

Minimum sanity standards for officers? Good Lord, man, why not minimum sanity standards for the Commander in Chief?

Oh, wait...

how about (1)

popisdead (594564) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269768)

Canada's Female astronaut has 'not' committed crimes or had a need to be fired.

Yeah, I've tried, but thats not the question. (5, Insightful)

deft (253558) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269872)

"Has anyone tried listening to her side of the story?"

has anyone tried to listen to it without laughing... thats the hard part.

What I love about this story is she gets aaa wig, everything you need to kill and torture someone, drives forever to meet her... and the weird part is diapers that isnt weird for her or her job... like none of that other stuff bothers anyone.

Clearly, we are desensitized to murder and all that... but adult diapers really gets us.

nah (4, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269468)

In an unprecedented move for an unprecedented situation, NASA has fired now-former astronaut Lisa Nowack.

It's not completely unprecedented. They fired the Challenger crew. I guess they just couldn't keep it together.

Re:nah (2, Funny)

Exsam (768226) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269532)

Too soon man, too soon.

+5 Awesome (2, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270098)

I find that it's the "Flamebait" mod that changes it from "wrong but funny" to "wrong but hilarous".

Yeah, I guess some people are still pretty broken up over the whole Challenger thing.

Re:+5 Awesome (3, Funny)

Penguinshit (591885) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270168)

It blew their minds...

Re:+5 Awesome (1, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270198)

It blew their minds...

Yeah, those were the days when spaceflight was really booming.

Re:nah (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269544)

I laughed. It's very wrong, and the troll mod is probably not undeserved, but I laughed.

Re:nah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269708)

I find that it's the "Flamebait" mod that changes it from "wrong but funny" to "wrong but hilarous".

Re:nah (-1, Troll)

mastershake_phd (1050150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269692)

It's not completely unprecedented. They fired the Challenger crew. I guess they just couldn't keep it together.

Too soon?

Re:nah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18270160)

You have 40% troll and 20% flamebait. I dunno, could you slip '40% retarded' in there somewhere?

Fire? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269478)

Isn't the proper aeronautical term "launch"?

snakes on a plane (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269492)

snakes on a plane

Unprecedented? (2, Insightful)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269496)

Okay, I guess technically they've never fired an astronaut before, so it is "unprecedented" in that sense.

But it's not like it's unusual to fire someone who is incapable of doing the job you hired them to do.

Sensationalism at its "finest".

Re:Unprecedented? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269818)

Was she really incapable of doing the job? Sure she tried to kidnap someone but did that interfere with her work per se?

Mod AC parent up! (1)

Animaether (411575) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270028)

Should you get fired from your cashiers job just because you got fined for speeding?

sure, kidnapping is a more serious event, but the two are just as much unrelated.

That said... I'm pretty sure that NASA doesn't allow anybody with a criminal record on their astronaut staff, and so wouldn't have a choice.

Re:Mod AC parent up! (2, Insightful)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270240)

Except for the fact that speeding has nothing to do with cashiering, yet sanity has EVERYTHING to do with cramped quarters with other people for long periods of time.

Re:Unprecedented? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269844)

It's all more proof that some jobs women are just not cut out for.

Get out the Firehose! (2)

agent (7471) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269500)

Re:Get out the Firehose! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269546)

Mods need a sense of humor. :(

Re:Get out the Firehose! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269726)

It wasn't the mods -- the GP poster has low enough karma that his posts start at -1.

Diapers saving time? (4, Insightful)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269504)

One question about this whole thing that has bothered me is that she wore diapers to obviate the need for bathroom breaks. She drove 900 miles really fast, which meant she also had to refuel. Assuming great mileage, a large fuel tank, and a speedy car, she had to stop at least twice to gas. I'm not sure how much time would've been saved by stopping off in the loo. I think it tends to show more of how batty she is- which is good for her defense. Has anyone seen how long the trip actually took for her to drive?

Re:Diapers saving time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269578)

Maybe she's just really into wearing diapers.

Re:Diapers saving time? (5, Funny)

Astral Jung (450195) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269586)

Apparently, you've not seen very many gas station restrooms.

Re:Diapers saving time? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269644)

You're assuming her bladder capacity was well correlated to her fuel tank capacity.

There's also the possible issue of lying in wait for her victim at the airport. It'd be terribly embarrasing to drive 900 miles in a blind rage to attack somebody, only to miss your chance due to an ill time potty break.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269656)

I've taken a few cross-country driving trips in the 2,000 mile range, taking a 2-3 days to do it. In my '87 Tercel with all my posessions in the back I got around 35 mpg, with my range being about 350 miles. That means about 5-6 hours of continuous driving.

Now I wouldn't stop except to refuel, except for once when it was simply too painful to keep driving. Women, in my experience, tend to need to go to the bathroom more often than once every 6 hours. Since every unecessary stop puts a severe ding in your average velocity, I could easily see wanting to do something to make the extra stops unecessary.

Actually doing it is kinda nuts, though.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270070)

Not that severe a hit though(depending on what you call severe).

If you figure she could drive 350 miles on a tank, drove mostly at 70 mph and took about 10 minutes to pee(if you are determined enough to wear diapers, this isn't absurdly short), say every two hours or so, that means she would take 300 minutes to cover 350 miles just buying gas, and somewhere around 330 minutes peeing three times in those five hours. That's 70 mph just buying gas and 63.3 mph peeing. So out of every ten hours of driving, she saved an hour by wearing diapers.

Over 900 miles, she saved something like 1.5 hours, unless she has a really small bladder(and only if she lacked any sort of sense of fluid management, which given her position is highly unlikely).

Re:Diapers saving time? (2, Funny)

sn00ker (172521) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270244)

took about 10 minutes to pee
Say what?! I don't take 10 minutes to lay a cable, never mind take a leak. Seriously, if your bladder was so large that you needed 10 minutes to empty it (including all the attendant activity) you could easily drive for 10 hours without having to stop. I've gone seven hours and 1.2L of water before it became a case of "Next rest stop, or a tree!", and that stop was still well below 10 minutes.

Your calculations may be being generous, to be sure, but 10 minutes is excessive. Five would be closer to the truth in all but extreme cases. Particularly since I don't know anyone who would willingly linger in a petrol station bathroom!

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

Marko DeBeeste (761376) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269686)

It's been speculated that the diapers were for mopping up blood. Makes sense for a person with nerves and smarts to be checked out in 30 kinds of aircraft, to say nothing of the ISS.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269814)

That is certainly a valid point, but I also seem to recall that she had already soiled two diapers on her own during the trip. Which means she went twice, and somehow quickly changed her diaper. I'm still wondering how long the entire trip took her, especially since she was driving to compete with a plane making the same trip.

Re:Diapers saving time? (5, Funny)

Marko DeBeeste (761376) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269924)

Hadn't heard about the soiled part. My thought is some kind of organic brain problem (stroke, tumor, etc.) She profile's out as too smart and confident a person with a robust history. In terms of cognitive (in this case delusional) issues, the best predictor of what will happen is what has happened.

Either that or the guy is hung like a coal-mine mule.

Re:Diapers saving time? (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269688)

Astronauts use rocket fuel in their cars. It's an explosive blend with great mileage.

Re:Diapers saving time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269788)

And don't forget the fact that it has electrolytes.... what cars crave!

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

linguizic (806996) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269940)

BEST MOVIE EVER!!!

Re:Diapers saving time? (4, Insightful)

GreyPoopon (411036) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269714)

One question about this whole thing that has bothered me is that she wore diapers to obviate the need for bathroom breaks.

Although we can't be sure, I would guess that it was not to avoid wasting time, and was instead to avoid getting caught on camera. You can fill up your gas tank outside, but most gas stations these days have their WCs on the inside, and most of them have CCTV to take pretty pictures of you. If she was hoping to murder and dispose of her rival, she would absolutely not want any evidence that she had made a cross country trip around the time that the victim disappeared. Of course, most gas stations these days also have cameras watching the license plates of their customers to avoid drive-offs, but I guess she was improving her chances by not going inside.

Re:Diapers saving time? (0)

kwalker (1383) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270084)

Problem with that idea is that unless she used someone else's credit card to pay at the pump, she would have had to go inside to pay with cash, so she'd still end up on CCTV. That took all of 10 seconds of mental exertion to come up with, so if she's anywher near sane, she would have thought of that too.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270100)

I think maybe you are overthinking this a little. Occam's Razor suggests it was just to save time. But maybe she had a diaper fetish, who knows. She's clearly nuts.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270108)

Credit card trail? I have never seen a pay at the pump that took cash.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270238)

Arco gas stations (at least in California) do not accept credit cards. They have kiosks which allow you to pay by cash into a machine. You also have the option of paying by debit card, but they charge you a transaction fee and you are thus tracked. Assuming she covered up her license plate in some manner, wore some type of disguise, and stopped at gas stations with automatic readers for cash purchases, she could've made the trip with a relatively small trail.

Re:Diapers saving time? (4, Insightful)

iamacat (583406) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269866)

How do you think astronauts handle descent in landing capsules, long spacewalks or other situation where one might need to pee? What's bizarre to us, might be routine for people who go on unusual missions.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

terrymr (316118) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269938)

Who knows what the long wait on the launchpad followed by sudden acceleration does to somebody.

Re:Diapers saving time? (1)

FIT_Entry1 (468985) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269888)

Astronauts wear adult diapers during launches so this probably made a lot of sense to her. I have to admit I would not a person with her qualifications gunning for me, I think if she really intended to kill that woman they'd never find the body.

Only on slashdot..... (2, Funny)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270022)

Only on slashdot would you have someone question the logic of a nutcase wearing diapers in order to avoid taking bathroom breaks.

Diapers aren't really odd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18270034)

Keep in mind that she's an astronaut. They're used to having to use... unusual accommodations for basic needs such as this for a mission. You know - you can't really take off your suit when you've got to go. So I assume that it's a holdover from her space training.

Well then. (0, Offtopic)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269520)

Ms. Nowack is a Navy officer and remains so.


Navy has low standards.

Re:Well then. (1)

PhxBlue (562201) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269620)

It takes a while to fire a Navy captain (equivalent of a Colonel in the other services). I'm sure she'll be "asked to retire" as soon as the civilian court proceedings are over with.

Re:Well then. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269854)

No, she will be court-martialed for conduct unbecoming if nothing else, then dishonorably discharged. I think this is too serious to be subject to administrative justice executed by her commanding officer (the other option for some military offenses).

Re:Well then. (1)

cmowire (254489) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269946)

I suspect that, thanks to Star Trek, most geeks are more familiar with naval ranks than ground-pounder ranks. :P

Re:Well then. (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270016)

Lucky she's not a man. Instead of being a misunderstood, stressed-out astronaut who needs some TLC, she'd be a *monster* charged with attempted *murder* being held in prison until trial and then given a life sentence.

Sad that our society has devolved to the point where missions exploring the universe and potentially saving mankind are ignored, but a kooky employee makes headlines for months.

Why is this odd? (2, Interesting)

LordPhantom (763327) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269552)

It's not like this is strange. She's under investigation for a felony... I'm pretty sure that disqualifies her from flying on the space shuttle. If not that, the fact that she's a certifiable whackjob.

As for her remaining a Navy officer, I suspect she'll get a second (please forgive the pun here) dishonorable discharge after the dust settles.

Don't leave town. (1)

no_pets (881013) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269640)

When you're under investigation, or at least in the movies, they tell you not to leave town. Perhaps they just don't want her leaving the planet.

Re:Why is this odd? (5, Informative)

nofx911 (634100) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269716)

According to NASA the felony investigation is only a fraction of the problem. She is technically on lone from the Navy - which means that she is only allowed to work in certain roles that the Navy has pre-authorized for her. Since she can not participate in those roles, due to her current legal obligations (shes not allowed outside of Houston), there is nothing that she can do within NASA. Henceforth, NASA has no choice other than releasing her.

Re:Why is this odd? (1)

joke-boy (744718) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269966)

It's not like this is strange. She's under investigation for a felony... I'm pretty sure that disqualifies her from flying on the space shuttle.

Why? It's not like she's a flight risk...

Re:Why is this odd? (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270112)

What has our country become when comitting a felony disqualifies you from flying the shuttle but not from becoming a president?

Who's "Nowack"? (2, Interesting)

PhxBlue (562201) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269590)

... NASA has fired now-former astronaut Lisa Nowack ...

No, they fired Lisa Nowak. I know this is Slashdot, and I'm not new here ... but Christ, is it that hard to do a little basic spell-checking?

Re:Who's "Nowack"? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269662)

Do you find that life is frustrating living as a prick?

It's a minor spelling mistake. No big deal. Everyone knows what/who they meant, that part isn't crucial to get right and I dont care if they erred.

Re:Who's "Nowack"? (1)

seyyah (986027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270012)

So you must be using a Polish spell-checker, right? My lousy English one didn't pick up either Nowack or Nowak. Strange.

Re:Who's "Nowack"? (1)

Peyre (988929) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270254)

Good spotting. I'm glad someone pointed it out. All this news about astronauts and the Shuttle makes me want to go back to the Moon (http://www.geocities.com/raceintospace/index.htm) ...

tossed out an airlock (1, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269598)

Wow. Now her life is completely destroyed. Way to go, guys. Presuming she doesn't go to jail or a mental institution, you couldn't have found somewhere for her to work at NASA, given how big NASA is? Or waited until she was proven guilty, at the least?

Especially since it's your training program that caused the breakdown in the first place, most likely?

Talk about getting tossed out an airlock. NASA could have taken the high road on this one, and it's pretty obvious they took the easiest-for-them road. Circle the wagons, protect the budget.

Sends a real clear message to the other astronauts/candidates, though.

Re:tossed out an airlock (1)

darius779 (734496) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269672)

What company wouldn't fire someone after they brutally attacked a coworker?

Re:tossed out an airlock (1)

Original Replica (908688) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269694)

you couldn't have found somewhere for her to work at NASA, given how big NASA is?

Yeah, it's not like there are hundreds of qualified people who would love to work at NASA, waiting for their shot or anything.

Re:tossed out an airlock (4, Insightful)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269730)

So you're saying that NASA should keep someone totally unqualified for any kind of high-stress, high-risk work on the payroll?

Besides, it's more like she's a Navy pilot seconded to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for space research projects. If she's no longer suited to work on such projects, the right thing to do is to take her off those projects and return her to her regular Navy pilot duties--or such of those duties as her parent organization finds her still fit to perform. It's not like NASA tossed her out on the street.

Also, this is the first time an Astronaut has "snapped" like this. How do you know it's the training program, and not a personality quirk in the candidate? Astronauts are typically chosen from among a pool of people who have already proven their aptitude for high-stress, high-risk work. Most of the candidates eithe wash out or pass through the qualification tests. The ones that pass through almost never snap, but as manning increases, the occasional ringer is bound to slip through. The right thing to do is not to keep the ringer, but to wash them out as soon as you become aware of them.

Re:tossed out an airlock (4, Informative)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269944)

Besides, it's more like she's a Navy pilot seconded to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for space research projects. If she's no longer suited to work on such projects, the right thing to do is to take her off those projects and return her to her regular Navy pilot duties
FTFA:
NASA said it requested Nowak's detail be ended "because the agency lacks the administrative means to deal appropriately with the criminal charges pending against Nowak. Because Nowak is a naval officer on assignment to NASA, rather than a NASA civil servant, she is not subject to administrative action by NASA."

In other words, NASA's only option (other than doing nothing) is to fire her.

As for the quality of people NASA takes into their program, they're mostly products of the Navy/Army Test Pilot School. Even the engineers (like this crazy robotic arm operator) went to test pilot school.

Re:tossed out an airlock (1)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270074)

A lot of astronauts have snapped. Several have severe depression and other mental illnesses

Re:tossed out an airlock (1, Troll)

mikelieman (35628) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269790)

Don't fool yourself, NASA ain't the shining boy who once, long ago, sent people to strange and interesting places like the Moon.

Today they are just another Federal bureaucracy. The goals are a) Hire Government Employees and b) CYA c) Oversee contracts. Any success is purely accidental.

Yeah, it's a darn shame. (1)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269816)

NASA could have been kinder. Whatever her situation, losing her paycheck isn't going to reduce the stress on her or help her recover.

How's NASA going to look if it turns out that her bizarre behavior was the result of something like a brain tumor?

Can't even imagine what her kids are going to make of it all.

Re:tossed out an airlock (1)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269848)

Funny you mention that, because a few weeks ago NASA said they stood in support of her. Wonder what changed their minds.

How could they *not* fire someone for this!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269896)

How many companies *won't* fire you if you're arrested for a felony?

Granted, they'll probably fire you for the unexcused absence from work, but still...

Re:RTFA (1)

Bastian (66383) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269984)

She was shuffled over to another job, it's just that it's a Navy position rather than another NASA one. That's because she doesn't work for NASA. She officially works for the Navy and was assigned to do astronaut detail for NASA.

Re:tossed out an airlock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18270032)

Come on. What is so fucking special about being an astronaught? If this was ANY other professionl you wouldn't bat an eye. If it was Jose working at KFC who got in his car and drove 900 miles in diapers to (allegedly) kill "the other man" he would be fired and probably held in jail. If an astronaught murders somebody do they deserve special treatment, too? Give me a fucking break. Yes, it's a highly specialized field, but there are plenty of qualified candidates out there to fill her spot. And how on Earth is this NASA's fault? Maybe they could have screened their people better (and filtered her out), but to blame her mental breakdown on them is ridiculous. It's high time we took back a sense of personal responsibility. Or was it Grand Theft Auto that drove little Johnny to kill all those people?

Re:tossed out an airlock (1)

PoopDaddy (1064616) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270078)

Maybe she was a crappy astronaut to boot.

well (1)

mastershake_phd (1050150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269648)

I figured she already had been fired. Has she even denied the charges?

Re:well (1)

Ankur Dave (929048) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269744)

Yes, she has. She pled not guilty in advance (before the trial, that is).

NASA's shuttle replacement? (4, Funny)

dacut (243842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269720)

Oefelein told investigators he and Nowak both served on the bicycling team at NASA... Man, I know NASA is strapped for cash, but bicycles?

Re:NASA's shuttle replacement? (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270186)

They were looking to a new cost efficient low orbit altitude [uh.edu] vehicle with an environmental appeal.

Not just any bicycles (4, Funny)

patio11 (857072) | more than 7 years ago | (#18270268)

They're custom-made from Lockheed Martin, spent 8 years in development each at a cost of $650 million, use military-grade titanium frames and have wheels made up of 65,000 tiny sheets of vulcanized rubber which are handmade and then painstakingly knit together to best resist wear-and-tear with the road. They're only used for serious scientific business, like carrying a mouse in the basket to see what the physiological changes are to a mouse riding a bicycle. It was determined that the changes are rather similar to what a mouse experiences in low-gravity: not much, and if you give him cheese he really couldn't care less.

Plans to retest using a hamster and sunflower seeds were scrapped after the bike was totaled in a training accident. (A NASA bicycle rider on loan from the Air Force attempted to take the bicycle over a 3 inch curb, which should have been within the 5 inch tolerance level of the suspension. Unfortunately, one of NASA's subcontractors designed for 5 cm tolerance level instead, and after the suspension exceeded tolerance it folded like only a $600 million can can.)

NASA is now submitting a proposal for a better, more expensive bicycle to continue their important scientific mission. $1 billion is slated for testing the suspension under a variety of stressful conditions, and as much as $2.50 is slated for experimental apparati for measuring the responses of the hamster.

Its been done... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18269740)

NASA always fire thier Astronauts...

Innocent until proven guilty? (0, Troll)

bobbonomo (997543) | more than 7 years ago | (#18269792)

Innocent until proven guilty! So much for that belief. Eh?

IN SOVIET RUSSIA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18270042)

cosmonaut fires YOU!

Nowack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18270236)

Nowack? More like Yeswack.
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