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Google Working on a Mobile Phone?

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the i-don't-see-how-they-could-not-be dept.

Communications 118

An anonymous reader writes "Are the boys from Mountain View planning a move into mobile hardware? silicon.com has been encouraging analysts to dissect rumours that the search giant has designs on building a mobile. It says 'If Google were to get into the device game, it would be more likely to concentrate on the wi-fi side of things — perhaps a single-mode VoIP phone optimised for Google services such as Gmail.'"

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Problem (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18346433)

I often get sperm in my keyboard. Any suggestions ? I can't seem to lick it out.

Re:Problem (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18346481)

Malda, for the last time we told you to stop posting as an AC.

Yes, it's going to involve two cans... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18346517)

how will it work? They'll be attached. They'll call it G-string voice transmission technology and patent it.

News? (4, Funny)

tom17 (659054) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346873)

I don't see why this is news. Google has been working on my mobile phone for years!

Re:Yes, it's going to involve two cans... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18347321)

Here is the link to the patent:
http://www.mad4mobilephones.com/news/621/ [mad4mobilephones.com]

Phone book... (0)

simm1701 (835424) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346519)

Well if they can give me a phone that lets me easily remember which girls name and number is which from my phone book I might be interested... all that search experiance has to be good for something!!

Re:Phone book... (5, Funny)

daeg (828071) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346699)

Future /. search queries:

[+bjs -herpes +catholic type:girl_______]

Your search did not match any users.

[+cheapdate -herpes type:girl___________]

Your search did not match any users.

[type:girl______________________________]

Your search did not match any users. Did you mean type:guy?

Re:Phone book... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18347085)

I have genital warts.

i don't know if I should be ashamed I got them or proud that I have fucked so many chicks bareback I have no idea which one of the whores could have given them to me.

ohh well, all I know is I'm not telling anyone. Spread the disease you know. Infect the world.

Re:Phone book... (1)

adickerson0 (884626) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349627)

1 result found: contacting MOM.

Re:Phone book... (1)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350925)

Catholic blowjobs?

Re:Phone book... (3, Funny)

rblancarte (213492) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346779)

Come on, how hard can MOM and SIS be?

RonB

Re:Phone book... (1)

pixolet (950800) | more than 7 years ago | (#18351335)

uh, they shouldn't be hard. is there something we missed, like a sex change, perhaps?

Re:Phone book... (1)

danpsmith (922127) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346923)

Well if they can give me a phone that lets me easily remember which girls name and number is which from my phone book I might be interested... all that search experiance has to be good for something!!

Someone does need to solve this problem. I remember when I was single I once had three versions of the name Tara in my phone and couldn't recall any girls named Tara at all.

Re:Phone book... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18347241)

Someone does need to solve this problem. I remember when I was single I once had three versions of the name Tara in my phone and couldn't recall any girls named Tara at all.
Perhaps your friends put them in as a joke?

Re:Phone book... (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347333)

I saw a phone, when I was deciding which to get, that allowed you to put a picture in the phone book with the name. It also had a camera on it, like most modern phones.

Re:Phone book... (1)

simm1701 (835424) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347385)

I know I SHOULD do that - but you rarely remember to

What would be nice is matching to photo to their profile photo using the search of their name, email address and phone number that you do have stored - now that would be useful!

Re:Phone book... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18348593)

So any Windows Mobile device then?

Re:Phone book... (1)

dthable (163749) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350843)

If it also displayed the excuse I used last night to hide another date, that would be awesome.

Pure Data Phone (3, Insightful)

proc_tarry (704097) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346539)

It's about time someone develops a pure data phone for GSM, and not sell it through one of the carriers. But instead sell it independently, and have the users get their own SIM through a carrier and sign up for a data only plan. Then have VoIP, or whatever, I'm not a techie, but someone could figure it out.

Why phones remain tethered to carriers is beyond me. They give away the phones so they can ream you with the monthly charge. I got pay-as-you-go via t-mobile & I pay much less, and without a contract, than a monthly plan.

Re:Pure Data Phone (5, Interesting)

DJ Paradox (219601) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346649)

I'm imagining a phone optimized for ALL the Google apps. Think Google Earth with built GPS receiver in the phone! Think Google Mail and Calendar all integrated with your phone - online storage and low bandwidth front end, etc, etc. Think Google Youtube with the ability to send an MMS to upload movies you've shot with your Google phone.

Wicked! I'll take two!

Re:Pure Data Phone (3, Insightful)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346889)

Think a single company having control on your email and phone conversation, your position and your internet browsing. I don't assert they're particularly evil (i use gmail too) but I don't feel comfortable anyway.

Re:Pure Data Phone (1)

HUADPE (903765) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346967)

Then don't buy it. Much as slashdotters may not like to admit it, there is a good amount of competition in the US mobile phone market. This sort of a thing would be particularly useful for those of us stuck in very cold countries with sub-optimal mobile service. *makes rude gesture at Rogers.*

Re:Pure Data Phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18348303)

This sort of a thing would be particularly useful for those of us stuck in very cold countries with sub-optimal mobile service. *makes rude gesture at Rogers.*


Yet Rogers makes blatantly false claims in its advertising about being the most reliable with the most coverage, selling contracts with entrapment into exceeding the evaluation period (docs say that calls to the help number do not count as airtime, when in fact they do). They constantly breach contracts by failing to provide any actual service and participate in libel and extortion rackets with their credit reporting goon partners.

Rogers Cellular is government sanctioned organised crime, plain and simple.

Never, ever get a Rogers cellphone, it is guaranteed to ruin your life and make you unemployable. The only solution for Rogers is a violent one.

Re:Pure Data Phone (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18347009)

Um, it is already this way for some people with those omnipresent telecoms like AT&T and Verizon; so, how is this any different?

Re:Pure Data Phone (1)

Wannabe Code Monkey (638617) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348245)

Think Google Earth with built GPS receiver

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I would buy this device in a second. I can't understand why no one has done something like this yet. Even if it's just Google Maps with just the map view (no satellite) for bandwidth considerations, this would be a killer app. Every new phone for years has had a GPS chip in them for 911, the phone companies just don't want to give users access to them. On one of my old phones I was able to get my coordinates using an undocumented administrative menu. When I saw the iPhone with Google Maps I was sure that it would use the GPS chip to locate the user automatically, it would have been so easy, and so incredibly useful.

Re:Pure Data Phone (1)

Tmack (593755) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349239)

.... Think Google Earth with built GPS receiver in the phone! Think Google Mail and Calendar all integrated with your phone ...

Think ad sponsored applications! Working along with Google Earth and that GPS receiver such that all the businesses around you start spamming your phone as you walk by, or they all pop up as soon as you open Google Earth, with pinpoints showing where they are. Think of Google scanning your calendar and calling you to remind you of a meeting thats X distance away, will take you Y minutes to get there, and here are directions to it from where you are now, along with places you might want to stop and shop at along the way. Knowing how Google does things, this could all be really neat, as long as the spamming is kept to a minimum (which in most cases Google has been good about). I wonder how much of this the Apple iPhone thing will try to integrate as well, this seems to be a direct competitor.

Tm

Re:Pure Data Phone (1)

rblancarte (213492) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346897)

They do it because it is an economic model that works here in the states. Phones themselves haven't become the commodity as they have in other markets (I believe that Japan is such a market). I think that it is possible that if a phone like this did come out that you could see a shift. If that is the case, then you would see a major change in contracts etc. Personally, I would be all for this too.

It is too bad that Apple missed the boat with the iPhone. I get there is short term gain to be had in signing the deal with Cingular, but the long term gains could be so much more if it was fully open. THOUGH, there is the risk of having no takers. But if the takers were there, then you could start see that shift of the market.

RonB

Re:Pure Data Phone (1)

lintux (125434) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347359)

> But instead sell it independently, and have the users get their own SIM through a carrier and sign up for a data only plan.

Move to Europe. America seems to be about the only place where this is still impossible. :-)

VOIP phone? (2)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346545)

I don't know why everybody wants phones so bad. I hate phones, but I love mobile devices.

What I want is a mobile device about the size of a credit card and as thick as a CD jewel case. You unfold it two or four times (depending on how much screen real estate you need ATM), and rubber keys magically inflate to give it some tactile feedback goodness.

Inside this device a radio for every cellular network on the continent, and the ability to go looking for open wifi.

It can run a full embedded browser (for gmail) and ssh. The screen resolution is around 72 dpi. Oh, and it has a plug for a USB keyboard.

Finally, the battery lasts for a month in standby mode, or 12 hours of actual use.

And the device costs less than $500 with monthly plans for unlimited use in the in the $100 range.

Re:VOIP phone? (5, Funny)

aslate (675607) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346577)

"What I want is a mobile device about the size of a credit card and as thick as a CD jewel case. You unfold it two or four times (depending on how much screen real estate you need ATM), and rubber keys magically inflate to give it some tactile feedback goodness."

Where do you plan on keeping the electronics and battery!? Or is it "Magic powered" and needs a recharge from a magician every 12 hours?

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346797)

And if it is a Japanese magician, this recharge can last 24 hours. Seriously though, without radio emission, you need far more less power and volume, look at the iPod nano.

Re:VOIP phone? (3, Insightful)

Silverstrike (170889) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347269)

I know you were being funny, but in all seriousness, its not an absurd idea.

Go back to 1950 and ask the IBM engineers if they thought that in 2007 we'd have terabyte storage systems on our desks with over 3 Ghz processors.

Remember, anything that you don't understand, is by default magic.

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

pitu (983343) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349971)

quote from what was the name of the film (about nikola tesla)

  "he's not a magician, he's a wizard. He can really do the things we pretend to be doing"

Re:VOIP phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18350081)

I can think of at least one man who knows only that he knows nothing.

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350185)

Remember, anything that you don't understand, is by default magic.

I don't understand traffic patterns in Western Europe. It must be majik!

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

monotony (999416) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348809)

it's about time someone start opening up the job market for magicians. just because magic is legacy technology doesn't mean it's useless =P

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346723)

What I want is a mobile device about the size of a credit card and as thick as a CD jewel case. You unfold it two or four times (depending on how much screen real estate you need ATM), and rubber keys magically inflate to give it some tactile feedback goodness. Inside this device a radio for every cellular network on the continent, and the ability to go looking for open wifi. It can run a full embedded browser (for gmail) and ssh. The screen resolution is around 72 dpi. Oh, and it has a plug for a USB keyboard. Finally, the battery lasts for a month in standby mode, or 12 hours of actual use. And the device costs less than $500 with monthly plans for unlimited use in the in the $100 range.

Wow. And I suppose you want a pony too.

"I can write you a program that makes fish appear on the computer screen." -- Dilbert.

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348041)

> Wow. And I suppose you want a pony too.

You're a lot more likely to get a pony if you want one, and ask for one, than if you remain silent and keep riding the family dog.

Re:VOIP phone? (2, Funny)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346965)

What, no coffee maker?

Re:VOIP phone? (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347053)

Heck, even an expensive unlimited data-only plan (i.e. tethered computer at Cingular) is only $60/mo. Having a phone like this on the market would certainly get their panies in a wad!

Ad Words (1)

gsonic (885510) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346665)

How will they implement Ad Words in their cellphones? By interrupting your voice calls with spoken ads? XD

Re:Ad Words (1)

rblancarte (213492) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346829)

Considering that this would be a physical object they could sell, AdWords would be unnecessary. Simply selling the phone would result in profit.

RonB

hooray! (2, Insightful)

TinBromide (921574) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346677)

Hooray for gPhone!!!

I wonder who has that trademark?

However, i can understand the need for a fully searchable sms archive and address book (oh goodness! how will i ever find out which girls sent me a message "u r a qt"!?), and i also understand google's impulse to get a phone into the market before microsoft, I'd prefer to let them do what they do best - Create really nifty and usable online apps that cease to work when you can't get online. I don't use vonage for my phone line because i can't fathom my voice communications being dependent on my online connectivity and not the other way around. I've seen dsl not work but still be able to take/make calls, but never vice versa. So, unless the gphone works on mobile carriers (good) and internet access through that way, I'm not sure it'll do very well.

For the record: Competing with iphone = good. Competing with vonage? Redundant and i'm not sure how google can improve an internet phone in any useful way unless they roll out a phone over internet service to compete on a full scale.

Re:hooray! (1)

pravuil (975319) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347461)

Then all you will have to do then is find the elusive Google hotspots (gSpot for short) for the gPhone to work.

Gphone (2)

certel (849946) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346685)

If Google were to make a phone, I would say go with VOIP with some WiFi. Would be nice around the house.

Re:Gphone (1)

Equis (723653) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348511)

WiFi on my phone/PDA *is* nice around the house, thanks for asking. I use it very often, but not for VOIP, though, because I can conveniently call people using the phone function. I think Skype has a mobile version available for my phone, but I guess I just don't get using VOIP when I have a perfectly good phone.

beta (3, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346693)

Will there be a reduced service price while it's still in the beta stage?

Re:beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18348049)

Will there be a reduced service price while it's still in the beta stage?


Nope, it will be "free" with an "invitations" system and will forever remain in "beta" because the data being collected through the "invitations" system will be far to valuable to give up.

Re:beta (1)

cmdr_beeftaco (562067) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348711)

Are you kidding, the phone is free. They didn't get to be a 16 trillion dollar company charging for things.

Re:beta (1)

confusedwiseman (917951) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349337)

There will be no reduced service price in beta, but you will need an invite to purchase one.

Why would Google do this? (5, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346703)

Google is a web service company. Branching out into electrnics makes no sense. I could imagine them banching into mobile services, and maybe even partnering with an exisiting company to make a specialised handset, but making a mobile phone? It doesn't mnake sense.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347013)

Exactly. And let's not forget people have been going on and on about Google building it's own computers, operating systems, etc., and yet none of these things has appeared. I doubt it makes any kind of sense for them to get into hardware, given the supply issues, production costs, and other associated hangups. As long as they remain service-oriented, all they have to worry about is being able to get their content out to users and keeping them happy.

Re:Why would Google do this? (2, Informative)

jackbird (721605) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348061)

And let's not forget people have been going on and on about Google building it's own computers, operating systems, etc., and yet none of these things has appeared.

What's the Google Box [google.com] , then?

Re:Why would Google do this? (3, Insightful)

altoz (653655) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347161)

Contextual Ads, my man. Think about it, you're in some city and are walking to meet a friend (stored on google calendar, of course). The gPhone GPS gives you a contextual ad showing that there's a new cafe about 2 blocks away with exact directions on how to get there. There's also a new movie playing at the movie theater you guys are going to anyway, and of course, you can order the tickets direct without having to stand in line. And by the way, the restaurant near by also would like your attention. Maybe you can even pay for the meal with your google checkout account and receive a $10 discount. The possibilities are endless. The thing that a phone gives google is the ability to be where the user is at.

Organizing information is their thing. It's much more useful if the information is there at your fingertips.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347731)

And out of interest why can't they do that by just writing a Java midlet that uses the Location API to connect from any phone and provide exactly the same functionality but without the cost and risk of building their own hardware. That way they would have a larger addressable market (anyone with a compatible Java phone) and thus much greater potential revenue. Its stunning how people can't separate applications and software from hardware platforms.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

jackbird (721605) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348131)

Because the carriers currently control the platform, and charge so much that there are very few adopters (which leaves the 'potential' revenue forever potential). For example, Verizon's navigator service looks useful, but damned if I'm going to pay $144/year for mapquest on my phone. An ad-supported google maps on a phone that they don't charge end-users for would be very popular, and they could charge business users for fancier functionality like ACT synchronization, Nextel-style employee tracking, etc.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

treyb (9452) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348857)

If Google builds the phone (or just the software stack), they can use your entire browsing history from the phone for ad targeting. No longer would they have to limit themselves to your Google search history (and perhaps gmail contents). They would have deep, coherent data set to mine, tying your on-line and physical worlds together in real (or near real) time. If they sold such a phone at or near hardware cost they could probably give the service away for the increased ad revenue.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347783)

Certainly an excellent concept, but surely it would be better if Google provided the spec, and let the established mobilephone makers design phones that fit the spec. Google can then do what they do best - provide the mobile service.

Re:Why would Google do this? (4, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347479)

Google is a web service company.


Is it? It wasn't so long ago, after all, that it was a search engine company.

One of the interesting things about Google is the options that its enormous technology assets give it. Google maps and Google mail are in a sense a side effect of Google's technological capability of handling massive amounts of data and requests for that data.

One mysterious thing they have been doing is buying/leasing lots of dark fiber. Dark fiber is capacity that was added when long distance cables were laid, because the marginal cost of adding capacity was negligible compared to the cost of running the cable. 97% of the fiber in the US is "dark".

Possibly a web services company might by some dark fiber to link its data centers together, but reports are that Google is investing as much as 1.25 billion dollars. That's a lot of dough to spend on something you don't have explicit plans to use.

Cringley thinks they are preparing for the time in the not too distant future that video brings the Internet to its knees, in which case they will step in and offer a solution -- for a price. Given the YouTube acquisition, it seems plausible that they're thinking in that direction.

But one thing that is clear is that while they are not a communications company like Sprint is today, they are at least keeping the option to do something that involves moving tons of data around. If they do, those companies already in the business aren't going to be happy. If they were preparing an entry into wireless services -- well, that's a market that's begging to be shook up. If you've ever used TCP/IP over a cell phone, and needed to call support, you'll know that wireless companies are really ambivalent about it. They don't want to become pushers of commodity bandwidth.

Maybe Google is contemplating an end run around the net neutrality debate. Wireless companies are the poster children for the evils of non-net-neutrality. If the move towards wireless skews the market toward the current wireless providers, the Internet will be balkanized into a bunch of minimally connected proprietary AOLs. This would be bad for Google, which mostly makes it money off of people accessing data held by third parties. On the theory that the best defense is a good offense, the best time to react to that is now when they have the cash.

Re:Why would Google do this? (2, Informative)

jhjessup (936580) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350617)

Google is a web service company.


Is it? It wasn't so long ago, after all, that it was a search engine company.


Actually, it is and always has been an advertising company. Their revenue comes from advertising - their business plan is advertising, their research is focused around advertising. By knowing more about a person, they can deliver more effective advertisements. If they know when you're making phone calls regularly, they know what your hours are. If they know where you're calling frequently, they know the area you're likely to be in - they could even track where you are by cell node and target locally relevant ads - which they can sell at a premium.

Of course, they could be hideously more effective if they're analyzing all your electronic communications.

Hm. Maybe that's where the dark fiber comes in at. Just a thought.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

HungSoLow (809760) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347879)

Knowing their track-record for making things simplistic (or minimalist if you will), and focusing on content rather than flashy gimicks (Google Search Engine, Gmail, Google Maps, etc..) I would love to see a phone from Google. I'm so sick of these phones with exponentially increasing features, costing hundreds of dollars... I'd like a phone that has the single feature of acting like a regular phone! And the cost should reflect the features.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

dthable (163749) | more than 7 years ago | (#18351055)

The costs do reflect the features. Why do you think manufactures are putting in more flashy features, like cameras. The key demographic that buys the phones (I'm thinking teens) are willing to get the features even if the phone sucks in terms of quality. Many of them are just going to get a new one in a year or two.

It's like dining out. They give you more food so they can charge more not because you need to eat more.

And why Microsoft did this? (1)

efence (927813) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348655)

XBox, XBox360, Zune.

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

altek (119814) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348679)

Microsoft used to be an operating system software company.

Then they were a software company.

Then they were also a video game hardware company.

Then they were also a music player hardware company.

Catch my drift?

Re:Why would Google do this? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349113)

Catch my drift?

Uhm... No.

Microsoft went from a software company, to a more general software company, using a lot of the same basic techniqures and distribution channels. They then expanded that software to support games, and started working with 3D hardware manufacturers and game developers. At the same time, they realised that they had a good brand name and could use the same channels to sell hardware to the same customers who bought their software. They used their links to the games and 3D industry to allow them to expand into the game console industry. This was helped a lot because a large part of the software engineering had already been done.

Then they started panicking as they realised that their only viable rival has produced a music player that they could both make a profit on, and use to promote their brand, so they made a substandard "me too" product. But even that was a branch from their existing computer hardware business. Each step had some relationship to the previous one.

The speculation is that Google are going to shift froma a large web services company, supported by advertising, to a mass production company in a barely related field, using none of their acquired business partenrs, experience, or customers, and making money from unit sales. It would make as much sense as Ford branching out into radish farming becasue they could probably make a tractor.

A phone that doesn't suck? (2, Interesting)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346709)

Is there a phone that is just a phone? Designed to have a respectable life span for the phone itself and the battery? A phone that isn't also a camera, PDA, and now web surfing device. Just a phone.

I'm excited about cool mobile hand held devices, but sometimes people just need a reliable phone.

Oh, but are there any phone currently that synchronize with gmail and the Google calendar?

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347193)

Is there a phone that is just a phone? Designed to have a respectable life span for the phone itself and the battery? A phone that isn't also a camera, PDA, and now web surfing device. Just a phone.

sure [motorola.com]

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

eldimo (140734) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347569)

Check out the Motofone from Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.j sp?globalObjectId=164 [motorola.com]

It's a very simple phone, with plenty of battery power and no gimmicks.... Unfortunately, it won't be marketed in the US since the customer "doesn't want that"... :(

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

GundamFan (848341) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347701)

Look at phones designed for businesses... many have intentionally limited feature sets and tend to be more reliable to boot.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

scrm (185355) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348175)

Is there a phone that is just a phone? Designed to have a respectable life span for the phone itself and the battery? A phone that isn't also a camera, PDA, and now web surfing device. Just a phone.

I'm excited about cool mobile hand held devices, but sometimes people just need a reliable phone.

Oh, but are there any phone currently that synchronize with gmail and the Google calendar?


The Nokia 6300 [nokia.com] ticks all the boxes for core functionalities (including camera) and does it all in a pretty, small package with decent battery life. You can use Gmail for mobile [techcrunch.com] to read your Gmail (go to gmail.com/app on your mobile to download the app) and Goosync [goosync.com] to sync with your Google Calandar.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

Prophet of Nixon (842081) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348947)

Yea, but unfortunately gmail for mobile really, really sucks. Both the mobile web layout and the Java VM app suck. Fortunately, if you go directly to "http://mail.google.com/mail/h/" you can use the full gmail interface on almost any mobile browser and it won't try to auto-redirect you to their mobile interface (like the main site does). Ever notice that a lot of the useful (and distinctive) quirks of Google's search don't work on the pda view of their default page (things like unit and currency conversions, and movie time lookups)?

Their strange POP server doesn't even work with WM5's mail service (though SMTP seems to).

Frankly, Google's current support for mobile devices is very poor.

They may be turning around. Recently they released a new version of maps that actually runs native on WM5 with decent speed, and its fairly easy to use (except that there doesn't seem to be a way to zoom off-center, but that's just a UI quirk). The biggest problem with the new maps release (though it is a thousand times better than the last one) is that most of the easiest to access and prominent controls are for stupid crap like "find businesses near this location" rather than what one really needs in the application, which is a quick one handed way to input a road name, state and/or zip code to bring the map to that location. It also won't find US addresses if you follow them with ", USA", which I find sort of odd (this was a problem with looking up contacts, since most of them automatically had USA as a country, and I had to go through and remove them to make the contact lookup work).

I figure one more release and they might have a good program. Right now Windows Live maps beat Google Maps on accuracy, readability, and user interface but Google's is a LOT faster (roughly 4x). I've been switching back and forth between the two for the last few days.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18348251)

Every bloody article about phones and some wanker who can not be arsed to look at *any* of the fucking mobile phone manufacturers posts this.

Yes "simple" mobile phones still fucking exist you twat.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

emilv (847905) | more than 7 years ago | (#18348645)

I got an SonyEricsson J100i [sonyericsson.com] from my mobile service provider for $10 (no hidden fees and no monthly fee) here in Sweden. You can call and text people from it. Simple as that.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349593)

I use a Nokia 3510. It's starting to feel a bit old and heavy though. When it wears out I'll probably replace is with something almost identical but more compact.

Re:A phone that doesn't suck? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18352161)

Is there a phone that is just a phone?

How hard did you look? The 'free' phones Verizon gives away with the lowest cost plans are basic LG phones.

Every phone I've ever had has had a simple address book and stupid games, even mid 90's. If you just want a keypad bolted to a radio that might be hard to come by.

Because Google don't have enough hype (2, Insightful)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346751)

Okay so they are getting into mobile hardware, but why stop there lets add other things to "consider" that will generate more buzz

1) Google are getting into the MP3 player market, it will have a 1TB disk hence Google's search dominance will be critical
2) Google are going to buy Garmin and merge GPS with Google Earth over WiFi and 3G connections
3) Google are going to develop snowboards with integrated messaging and mapping to help you get the best tracks

There must be a load more wild speculations that we can add in, something around them buying Sony & Viacom & lots of other media companies to make sure they don't get sued.

Google truly are the new apple, they can generate news on what people think they might do, not just what they say they will do (Microsoft) or have done (IBM).

Re:Because Google don't have enough hype (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347633)

1) Google will be buying Slashdot. G-Dot's search technology will make finding dupes a snap!
2) Google will be buying Ubuntu. GUbuntu will be setup to use GMail as the default mail client and Google Docs will be available from the Applications menu.
3) Google will by buying PornoTube. Finding porn has never been easier!

Beat this Hype - the gCar (1)

PetoskeyGuy (648788) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347887)

Good start but you don't go far enough. Google is working on the gCar. Just look at the facts...

1) Ford / GM / etc is slashing US workers
2) Huge factories are left vacant, tens of thousands of workers ready to work for less money
3) Google tracks and records not only every page, but also every search and has stated it wants to record all knowledge
4) The Pizza driver doesn't ever remember the quick way to my house
5) Won't somebody think of the children?

Google will buy out Ford and other US automakers. They will start building cars with computers that access the entire Google Apps Suite including Google Earth, Google Maps connected to GPS. The cars will be sold at cost if you allow Google to track and index your every move and send it back to their data centers, as well as display location based in-car advertising directly to you. They will also have on-board cameras and send geo-tagged pictures as well.

Starting with the poor and college crowd people will sign up to get cheaper cars. They will get used to the convenience of gBillboard and forget about being tracked.

Bracelets for the kids will tether them to your vehicle or home showing your "last known location".

People will appreciate that they can instantly pull up a map to see exactly where their kids or spouse is on Google Earth at any point in time. Google will use the pictures to extrapolate the 3D structure of all buildings and develop algorithms to enhance the surface heights in Google Earth with the high resolution data recorded from the vehicles creating an almost perfect model of populated places. Each vehicle will have it's own "gCell" computer that seeks out other cars within 2 miles or so and forms an automatic mesh network. Highways make free internet access available and in return all these cars are used as a dynamic super computer with peak number crunching power during morning and afternoon rush hours.

They will all be hybrid plugins to fit with because Google's Don't Be Evil(tm).

Really, it's obvious when you look at the facts, and I bet all those Phd CS guys would get a hard-on creating it. :)

The gPhone as predicted by eliax (3, Interesting)

eyefish (324893) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346759)

For more info about the Google "gPhone" you might want to visit the following URL, it's an analysis of the whole gPhone topic (this is just the latest in long list of articles on that site predicting things) http://eliax.com/index.php?/archives/2434-Google-a -lanzar-gPhone-para-redes-VoIP.html [eliax.com]

It's in spanish, but here's a translation from Google Language: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F %2Feliax.com%2Findex.php%3F%2Farchives%2F2434-Goog le-a-lanzar-gPhone-para-redes-VoIP.html&langpair=e s%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Fla nguage_tools [google.com]

Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18346845)

iPhone, Gphone, hPhone... whatever.

My phone is as mobile as it needs to be, it hangs on the wall, has a rotary pulse dial and a coiled cord to the handset that with stretch out to about 16 feet.

The last thing I want to hear outdoors is a phone.

"Reach out and annoy someone"

I wonder how they will call access points (1)

MoreDruid (584251) | more than 7 years ago | (#18346861)

I wonder how they will call access points for this kind of wireless service... hmmm it should start with a G... how about G-spot? ;-)

Re:I wonder how they will call access points (1)

LighterShadeOfBlack (1011407) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347131)

I wonder how they will call access points for this kind of wireless service... hmmm it should start with a G... how about G-spot? ;-)
I hope not, it'd be impossible to ever find one.

Hmm. (1)

goldaryn (834427) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347001)

Google Working on a Mobile Phone?

It's been working on mine for years. *badum-tish*

Google Working on a Mobile Phone? (1)

errxn (108621) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347047)

It sure as hell doesn't work on mine.

Oh, shit, wait...

wtf? (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347229)

Google working on a phone? What's next? McDonalds working on the spaceshuttle? Sony designing bridges? Bombardier designing networking gear?

Hey google, stick to your "evil empire of data acquisition" plans and leave the hardware for the rest.

Re:wtf? (1)

Ai Olor-Wile (997427) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349185)

Well, er, Google's been in the hardware market for ages, at least through integrated data servers. That's how they made money before the advertising took off: http://www.google.com/enterprise/ [google.com]

Re:wtf? (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 7 years ago | (#18349965)

How about... Kawasaki making bridges, and Nokia making rubber boots?

Oh yes, and Daewoo making cars!

Doubt it (2, Insightful)

iabervon (1971) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347351)

So far, Google hasn't made any physical products. They haven't sold anything to consumers (except for Google Earth Plus, which Keyhold was already selling when they bought them). They haven't designed or produced any custom hardware.

Google is almost certainly working on mobile phone stuff, because, by policy, people work on random stuff part of the time, and mobile phones aren't quite so uninteresting that nobody at Google would care about them at all. But they don't have the right skill set to be trying to make their own phone. I'd say what this is about is trying to make a standard Google Talk program for a range of phones. And I could see them doing something where you can link your Google Talk account to your cell phone so your contacts can start a voice call on your phone by selecting your Google account.

Re:Doubt it (1)

Mr.Sharpy (472377) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347451)

Maybe it's nitpicky, but Google has been selling their Google Search Appliances for a long time. Not customer hardware really, but hardware none the less.

If they did...what a conundrum! (1)

mattgreen (701203) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347595)

Just think of the cognitive dissonance generated when people are forced to pick which company has the better product: Apple, or Google? I suppose it would be whatever company has more of their unquestioning loyalty, but still, what a sight to see.

They wouldnt be making the phone... (1)

wdavies (163941) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347749)

As the article says they'd be outsourcing the manufacture to HTC. And Google has already moved into wireless hardware deployment remember - there free muni wireless plans? What about the Google Search Appliance? I'm no expert, but these days you can probably design your own mobile phone (in fact I know someone who did, that little Kid's one called Firefly), without being a EE major.

Yahoo has also moved into the mobile field, although mainly by building a small suite to go on various platform/carrier combinations.

Of course, they would probably really piss off the major carrier with a wifi voip phone...

Google doesn't sell hardware products? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18347833)

What about the Google Mini?

http://www.google.com/enterprise/mini/ [google.com]

Bandwagon? (1)

jojoba_oil (1071932) | more than 7 years ago | (#18347849)

Apple? Trolltech? And now, Google?

Seriously, is anyone else tired of all these random companies entering into the cell phone design/manufacturing industry? I'm fairly certain that all the available phones have more than enough features for everyday users. I'm one of few people I know that even cares about changing ring-tones, much less browsing web, etc.

What we need is not more phones, but rather better cell services. If we get services that allow customers to cheaply use features available on the existing phones, we won't need every other shop making their own. For example, I have yet to see a single Verizon-sold (and as such included on Verizon's whitelist) phone that allows picture transfer via bluetooth.

Yuo fa1l it..-. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18349017)

TO THE ORIGINAL mYself. This isn't

I, for one.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18349053)

Welcome our new Google overlords.

Not a huge suprise Google has a phone History. (1)

Foo2rama (755806) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350013)

I have been waiting for this for awhile, Google has at least two initiatives involving Cellphones. Gmail currently uses sms auth, to create accounts, giving google a nice database of phone numbers tied to gmail addresses. They also have the dodgeball service that they quietly purchased a year or so ago.

Don't look too far into this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18350397)

Couldn't this just be some of the things that Google is working on with Apple for the iPhone?
They announced already that Google and Apple will be working on projects together.

Whats next?? (1)

Y-Studios (988661) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350591)

Well as we can see google is trying to take over the world!...Stay tune Google OS coming soon!!!

Google's Universal Data Access Device (1)

ccozan (754085) | more than 7 years ago | (#18350871)

i need only one thing from google that is mobile: a small tablet like device, big screen, keyboard. Not bigger than the standard blackberry. maybe thinner ( hate bulges ). It needs EDGE/3g, and wifi. no voice functionality. When i need to know something, i pull it out, key the search, get the answer(s). Done. make it 100% worldwide compatible and let me decide where do i get my connectivity.

Oh. and it needs a "Don't Panic" button too.
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