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Exec Confirms Google Phone

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the let-the-battle-begin dept.

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cyberianpan writes "The head of Google in Spain and Portugal has confirmed that Google is working on a mobile phone. "Some of the time the engineers are dedicated to developing a mobile phone," This could be the 20% free time development but publicizing that would be stupid. Obviously this phone could link in with Google Earth/Maps... it is a marketers dream for targeted advertising."

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120 comments

I'll say it first... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373471)

I for one welcome our new mobile overlords

Re:I'll say it first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373691)

dude... can you please stop spamming that?

Re:I'll say it first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373977)

Oh come on now. Someone does it at least once.

Maybe the mods should auto post it...?

Good bye, freedom of speech (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374003)

Cool! Now Google can spy on our phone calls, too!

Re:I'll say it first... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374635)

1 - I for one welcome our new slashbots overlords
2 - Does it run Linux ?
3 - Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!
4 - ...
5 - Profit!

Do I win a prize now ?

why assume it's google's phone? (4, Interesting)

flynt (248848) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373475)

why can't the phone they're working on be the iphone? also, i wouldn't say the "head of google in portugal" making an off-handed comment really counts as "publicizing" it.

Hate to break it to ya... (5, Funny)

PoopDaddy (1064616) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373511)

why can't the phone they're working on be the iphone?

I believe that name is taken.

Re:Hate to break it to ya... (5, Interesting)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373987)

i think the OPs point was that since google and apple have become so buddy-buddy, odds are good that google's resources are working on apps for the iPhone, pehaps a branding of it.

Re:Hate to break it to ya... (5, Funny)

jrp2 (458093) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373997)

why can't the phone they're working on be the iphone?

"I believe that name is taken."

like twice

Re:Hate to break it to ya... (5, Funny)

alexburke (119254) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374071)

why can't the phone they're working on be the iphone?

I believe that name is taken.
Didn't stop Apple, did it? :)

Re:Hate to break it to ya... (1)

Genevish (93570) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374459)

Maybe they're helping Apple with some of the development of Apple's iPhone. After all, Google's CEO is on the board for Apple...

Re:why assume it's google's phone? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374995)

why can't the phone they're working on be the iphone? also, i wouldn't say the "head of google in portugal" making an off-handed comment really counts as "publicizing" it.

Why should I live with my parents at 45 and not be rich and surrounded by blonde babes?

I guess reality doesn't take clues out of a geek's wet dream. Most bad Flynt, most bad...

Re:why assume it's google's phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18375283)

They're targetting the market that would rather have a gooPhone.

Magical Google phone? (5, Insightful)

Applekid (993327) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373515)

"... it is a marketers dream for targeted advertising."

How is that different than other phones? I've heard lots of bells and whistles over the years about phones being a portal to direct advertising and that I'd get ads pushed to my phone constantly and, at least myself and my circle of contacts, it's. just. not. happening.

I don't see what would make Google phone more viable for direct marketing than iPhone or a regular cell that can run Google Maps mobile on it already.

I'd be more concerned with a Google phone dropping calls when you start talking about stuff the Chinese government would consider corrupting influences on society.

Ties you to their services, gives them your info (5, Insightful)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373643)

If it had GPS, it could know where you are, and display advertisements accordingly. This could just be the splash screen on your phone. Also, you could press "Food" or enter "pizza" and it would show you restaurants in the area, maybe even give you directions. Maybe you could even set it to ring a certain way when you're near a good restaurant.

Tying you to their other products (Gmail, Picasa) will also bring them ad revenue. It could also legitimate Google's services for the Blackberry crowd. I think that like iPhone for Apple, this would fill the gap for Google's PDA.

And I imagine contact information is worth a lot to them. Who's in your address book, who you're calling, when you call people, when you're phone is on/off, etc. Not to mention if there's GPS, they'd know where you go during the day.

Re:Ties you to their services, gives them your inf (2, Informative)

mhamel (314503) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373829)

for that kind of usage, you don't need a gps. Celle phone tracking [wikipedia.org] would be enough. And it has been available for years. But I never really saw it being used.

Re:Ties you to their services, gives them your inf (2, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374151)

Yes, but couple the capability with Google's penchant and capabilities for and with contextual ads. I can see them doing exactly that.

Re:Ties you to their services, gives them your inf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18375291)

Also, you could press "Food" or enter "pizza" and it would show you restaurants in the area, maybe even give you directions.

I use Helio as my cell provider with the Samsung Drift phone, and I can do just that. Load up Google Maps and it shows my location, click on search and type in 'pizza' or 'italian' or whatever else I may be looking for it shows the closest places to my current location. Pretty handy, especially living here in NYC.

Re:Magical Google phone? (4, Informative)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373671)

How is that different than other phones? I've heard lots of bells and whistles over the years about phones being a portal to direct advertising and that I'd get ads pushed to my phone constantly and, at least myself and my circle of contacts, it's. just. not. happening.
You're kidding me, right? I have a Motorola Razr V3i from Sprint. I get SMS spam from Sprint just about every other day (it's gotten worse in the past 3 months or so). Plus, the phone itself is loaded with demo software (including a handy-dandy psuedo-GPS feature from a company called Handmark) that's expired since I got it -- this in itself is a form of advertising. Plus the Internet browsing experience is chock-full of advertising and 'popups'.

Interestingly enough, I already have GMail and Google Maps installed on my phone. Works great and also includes ads.

The phone is fully capable of displaying all sorts of ads -- it has a browser with Java and support for multiple forms of video and animation and a nice big screen. I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint starting pushing out more.

Re:Magical Google phone? (4, Insightful)

bheer (633842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373723)

> I get SMS spam from Sprint just about every other day

SMS ads are untargeted and largely provoke negative reactions. Sounds familiar to banner ads? Google's business model is all about creating advertising models that don't piss users off, and they've succeeded on the web. I'm not a huge Google fan (I don't buy their "don't be evil" kool-aid) but I'd put money that if anyone makes mobile advertising work, it'd be Google.

Re:Magical Google phone? (1)

unitron (5733) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376475)

"Google's business model is all about creating advertising models that don't piss users off..."

Kinda makes you wish they'd passed on YouTube and bought an actual broadcast/cable television network or three, don't it?

Re:Magical Google phone? (2, Informative)

CodeArtisan (795142) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374251)

You're kidding me, right? I have a Motorola Razr V3i from Sprint. I get SMS spam from Sprint just about every other day (it's gotten worse in the past 3 months or so).
You do know you can opt out of Sprint SMS Spam, right ? Every message they send has an unsubscribe option.

Re:Magical Google phone? (2, Insightful)

Bandman (86149) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375337)

technically, so does my stock dump spam, but anyway...

Re:Magical Google phone? (3, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374159)

I don't see what would make Google phone more viable for direct marketing than iPhone or a regular cell that can run Google Maps mobile on it already.

A phone knows where you are (through cell-tower triangulation).

Google knows, through your searches, what you're looking for.

Let's say you've been running searches for a few night on how to get a book published. Later that week, an SMS ad alerts you to the presence of a corporate training center that you happen to be walking by.

Or get a little more creative. Google knows you contact someone through g-mail and orkut a lot. The gPhone knows that they visit a particular resturant on a regular basis. The next time you walk by this resturant, that resturant sends you a targeted message letting you know that your friend is there.

Or there is a book exerpt you've looked up online. When you walk by a Barnes 'n Noble, google checks the local stock with them, then lets you know the price.

Or maybe google has figured out your anniversary date through a combination of Gmail and google calendar. When you walk by a Zales, the sales associates are alerted to your upcoming event, and hops out of the store to sell you up.

With databases of information about what people write about in their Gmails, their searches, their maps, books they've looked up, friends on the various systems, their blogs, their IM's, and whatever other data google desktop collects, you can be sure that they have a lot more targeted information at hand than any other advertiser could dream of, and can use it more creatively.

Re:Magical Google phone? (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375065)

Or get a little more creative. Google knows you contact someone through g-mail and orkut a lot. The gPhone knows that they visit a particular resturant on a regular basis. The next time you walk by this resturant, that resturant sends you a targeted message letting you know that your friend is there.

It's why they bought out Dodgeball [dodgeball.com] . Mobile Social Networking has been getting a lot of mention lately (especially with SXSW [sxsw.com] going on last week) and while Dodgeball isn't at all innovative anymore (other MSNs have more features now) it will become important when Google has a HUGE database of venues in 20+ cities and the visit frequency of its users along with reviews, tags, etc.

Re:Magical Google phone? (4, Funny)

saboola (655522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375075)

Or maybe google has figured out your anniversary date through a combination of Gmail and google calendar. When you walk by a Zales, the sales associates are alerted to your upcoming event, and hops out of the store to sell you up.

Does the phone come with the "kick salesman in the nuts cause it's none of his damn business" feature, or is that a monthly charged service?

gPhone (1)

vimh42 (981236) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376573)

It will interesting to see what Google comes up with. I for one however will not pay for anything that presents me with advertising.

What I do see is greater potential for a Google phone than an iPhone. Sure an iPhone could access Google Maps just like a gPhone. But what if you could actually develope your own client side Google Maps software with their API? That is of course assuming the gPhone has is open to developers in that manner. But if it was open to Googles APIs, there is a world o potential not present in the iPhone.

Of course, I'm hoping the iPhone is "hacked" to allow for any ol person to upload software to it.

Re:Magical Google phone? (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376657)

I'd be more concerned with a Google phone dropping calls when you start talking about stuff the Chinese government would consider corrupting influences on society.


Do you live in China? I do not think so. Then may be you should leave it to people who actually live there.

Shortly after his declaration... (2, Funny)

Noryungi (70322) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373527)


The Google executive in question disappeared from the surface of the Earth.

The first rule of the Googleplex is: you don't talk about the Googleplex.
The second rule of the Googleplex is: you DON'T TALK about the Googleplex. Byotch.

(Or course this is said tongue-in-cheek)... :-)

Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373533)

Hopefully it won't be a DRM infested, crippled piece of junk like the iPhone.

Best Feature Evar (3, Insightful)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373553)

"... it is a marketers dream for targeted advertising."

Yeah. Because the ability to have people send you more unwanted advertising is a feature everyone looks for when buying a new phone.

Re:Best Feature Evar (1)

Sunburnt (890890) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373637)

"... it is a marketers dream for targeted advertising."

Yeah. Because the ability to have people send you more unwanted advertising is a feature everyone looks for when buying a new phone.

It will be, once companies start trading this inconvenience for free high-quality phones and dramatically lower rates. I won't want one, but if people already put up with paying ridiculous prices for ad-bearing cable TV, I'm sure this service concept will raise few eyebrows.

Re:Best Feature Evar (4, Interesting)

walt-sjc (145127) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374179)

If I'm on the go and in the mood for Pizza, it would be cool to not only find a pizza place and order (like Jobs with the iphone / starbucks demo), but if google displayed a couple ads from the nearest pizza place that showed the specials, or offered me a 10% discount, then it would be worth it.

IMHO, I would like to see some kind of WiMAX / VoIP phone come to market. The traditional cell phone market / technology sucks. For metropolitan areas, this should be viable. If I'm in the middle of nowhere, I can always use one of the prepaid phones, and setup my voip service to forward to it if my gPhone is not reachable (or maybe the gPhone falls back to old-GSM mode...)

I they provided the phone and usage free (2, Insightful)

wiredog (43288) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373727)

or at a very low cost compared to others (Say, $5/month instead of $40), it might do quite well.

I wouldn't get one, but then I'm one of those weirdos who just wants a phone to make phone calls.

Re:Best Feature Evar (2, Insightful)

babbling (952366) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373765)

The thing about targetted advertising is that they're trying to make sure they're advertising something you do want.

Re:Best Feature Evar (1)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374433)

What I really, truly want is no advertising. Can they give me that?

Re:Best Feature Evar (2, Funny)

geoffspear (692508) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374575)

Well, once their voice recognition software that's indexing everything you ever say on your phone hears you say you want no advertising, I'm sure you'll start getting ads for phones that don't have ads on them.

Re:Best Feature Evar (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375355)

I don't mind advertising; I actually LIKE appropriate advertising that lets me know of deals on things that I like.

I hate stupid spam advertising.

Re:Best Feature Evar (2, Insightful)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374861)

Yeah. Because the ability to have people send you more unwanted advertising is a feature everyone looks for when buying a new phone.

No, but getting a $700 phone for $100 is a feature everyone looks for, and most people are willing to submit to unwanted advertising to get it. It's the same reason Dells are so popular.

Re:Best Feature Evar (1)

SpiritGod21 (884402) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375189)

Yeah. Because the ability to have people send you more unwanted advertising is a feature everyone looks for when buying a new phone.

What if the phone was free?

oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (-1, Redundant)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373597)

I can't wait to not buy this. Been waiting my whole life.

Granted real-time google maps + GPS does sound fantastically neato, you know for a fact that the data plan will be lik $100/mo or some shit. So while it may seem like a good idea, it's not going to be fiscally practical. In the end, people will have to resort to good old fashion, planning and asking strangers for directions.

Tom

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (2, Interesting)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373757)

I've got Google maps on my phone - does not replace the GPS but useful in emergency. Perhaps the real interest here is the growing development of applications based around the modern cellphone's unique features: 1. Nearly everyone has at least one, (increasingly in 'third world' countries too), and carries it all the time. 2. It's increasingly a computer, (mail, calendar..) and media-player as well as a communications device. 3. It can be located, (but this is illegal in most countries). Today, people are watching TV on their phones and using them as payment devices. Organisations are buying tracking information from the phone companies (individual's information supposedly not available), in order to better understand ppultion concentration and movement. See here http://reality.media.mit.edu/ [mit.edu] for example. Why would Google NOT be interested in getting into this stuff?

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (2, Insightful)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373797)

I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, I'm saying it won't be implemented without a huge amount of greed.

I should also point out an entire host of other misfeatures that are ONLY A COST

1. Shitty cameras
2. 22KHz sound drivers
3. Limited storage
4. Features disabled by the telco (file movement, bluetooth)
5. Limited CPU performance (re: 10fps videos)

Granted some of that is getting better, they are certainly dragging their feet as slow as possible to milk every last nickle and dime they can. And for those of us who just want a 'phone phone' we're often stuck with a phone that has absolutely no features (like say tri or quadband).

I won't hold my breath to see how this pans out. Because I know it'll take 10 years before we can get todays technology in tomorrows phones.

Tom

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (2, Informative)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373895)

I guess you're in the US? Based on what I hear, you guys really get screwed-over by the cellular operators. Here in Europe, reasonable competition has ensured reasonable prices. As for the devices - well, I've got a Blackberry Pearl, and whilst the camera does not take great pictures, and the email, mp3,video etc. features will likewise not beat dedicated devices, it's a price I'm happy to pay to just carry one device. Works OK for making calls, too!

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373975)

Worse, I'm in Canada, where we have but one GSM provider. And they are sure to remind you about that fact every month when you see your bill.

Yeah, I know the EU has some nice competition, but things aren't perfect there either. In the end, it would be nice if they stopped trying to make sales from one quarter to the other by making people think they have to upgrade their phones.

I don't get where this "bigger badder better" business strategy comes from but it's a loser one. You end up spending so much on advertisement, product design, etc, every quarter that the phones end up being either super costly, or subsidized through corruption (re: telcos disabling all useful features).

I'd gladly pay $50 for a decent quadband phone with a useful battery life and nothing more. Why should I pay $350 to subsidize the advertisement, design, testing, documentation and rollout of this weeks model of phone? When all it is is the same quad-band I want with a bunch of poorly implemented strap-ons included "for my benefit."

In general, I disagree with the all-in-one idea because it isn't practical. A mp3/video/phone/etc player would have to be larger than my cell, have to have a larger battery to be useful (hey standby time of 45 minutes!!! that's awesome!), would cost more, and more likely to be stolen.

Tom

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (1)

dfghjk (711126) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375159)

Google has proven that it is interested in the platform. The question is whether they are interested in entering the cellphone hardware market. That's an entirely different proposition and one unlike Google's existing business.

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (3, Informative)

arivanov (12034) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373833)

O2 already has something similar using streetmap and imode for the UK. Never tried it though so cannot venture an opinion.

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373921)

I don't know...I can get a cingular unlimited tethered card for $60/mo (which is really just a pcmcia receiver with a SIM). If google gets to advertise, they'll probably throw in the voip and misc. services for free.

The most basic non-data wireless plans are upwards of $30-40/mo with very limited usage, and the cheapest unlimited data to add to that is $20 - $40 if you're in a pda-style phone. So in effect, a good voip phone with only a data plan could be less than the current crop.

Re:oh jolly be golly gosh willakers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374183)

"I can't wait to not buy this."

I can't wait to not care about your opinion.

Google functionality (5, Interesting)

Sunburnt (890890) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373599)

Does this mean that, in an unfamiliar town, I can just type "pizza," hit "I Feel Lucky," and be connected with the most popular pizza joint in town based on call volume?

Really, I'm not being entirely sarcastic here. I wind up in strange places, and this feature would be more helpful than calling 411. Now, how to implement...

Re:Google functionality (5, Funny)

physicsboy500 (645835) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373813)

Does this mean that, in an unfamiliar town, I can just type "pizza," hit "I Feel Lucky," and be connected with the most popular pizza joint in town based on call volume?

Wouldn't that be the "I Feel Hungry" button??

Re:Google functionality (0, Offtopic)

Sunburnt (890890) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373871)

Ha! Well played.

Re:Google functionality (1)

teslatug (543527) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375325)

Not if you're Jason Biggs.

Re:Google functionality (1)

geoffspear (692508) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374625)

Great, then we'll get the search engine optimization crowd paying people to call bad pizza places from Google phones to increase their call volume based pagerank.

Re:Google functionality (1)

caluml (551744) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376473)

Orange in the UK have a feature called "Where's my nearest", which does exactly that. It's been running for years now.

spelling (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373627)

Given the features google has already implemented in their search engine, can we expect the phone to automatically correct our typos so we never dial a wrong number?

Most geeks will only buy it... (5, Funny)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373639)

...if they change "I Feel Lucky" to "I Want to Get Lucky".

I wish that I had had mod points (0, Offtopic)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374017)

That was a good play on words.

Re:I wish that I had had mod points (1)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374673)

Apparently the "Google Mafia" didn't think so, given the parent's "Overrated" mod and your "Offtopic" mod; it just goes to show that some people have no sense of humor. Hopefully meta-moderation will clean this up.

My fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374755)

I have some a#$%^&e following me around simply knocking me down for the last 2 months. Since it comes in waves (4 points spread over 4 days then a week or 2 between), it is obvious that they are stalking me. Fortunately, the meta mods restore most of them. Hopefully, once this a$%^&*e gets hit a few more time, they will be denied points. It would be useful if /. would design to track that crap.

Re:Most geeks will only buy it... (1)

Rolgar (556636) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375585)

Will it randomly select somebody from Craig's List personals and automatically dial them up? Scary.

Re:Most geeks will only buy it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18377001)

How is that any different than what ppl are doing? The scary part is when it calls AND then holds a conversation in your name. Downright nightmarish is when it is with another google phone.

Buzzwords? (2)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373737)

the Google Phone will be a BlackBerry-like device running C++ at the core with an operating system bootstrap and optimized Java and that it would offer voice over Internet Protocol.

What does this actually mean? Why would it be running C++ at the core? Doesn't it make more sense to run native machine code? What devices have an OS but no bootstrap? How do you get them to start? Did they consider pessimised Java, but decided that optimised would be more efficient?

Re:Buzzwords? (1)

abshnasko (981657) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374539)

To clarify: BlackBerry-like device running C++ at the core with an operating system bootstrap and optimized Java and that it would offer voice over Internet Protocol = iPhone

Re:Buzzwords? (1)

dfghjk (711126) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374809)

The iPhone offers neither Java nor VoIP and Apple doesn't develop in C++.

Nice try but 0 for 3.

Re:Buzzwords? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375943)

LOL

More sense to run native machine code, good one.. Well played.

Why is linux written in C? Wouldnt it make more sense to use it on computers?

Why is this news?? (3, Insightful)

8127972 (73495) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373751)

(other than the fact it's about Google)

It didn't come from Larry Page and Sergey Brin or anybody like that. For all we know, this statement may just be some sort of FUD meant to scare people who put out other smart phones (Read: Microsoft, Palm, etc.).

I'll wait for some sort of "official" announcement.

Re:Why is this news?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374223)

(other than the fact it's about Google)

It didn't come from Larry Page and Sergey Brin or anybody like that. For all we know, this statement may just be some sort of FUD meant to scare people who put out other smart phones (Read: Microsoft, Palm, etc.).

I'll wait for some sort of "official" announcement.


Are you seriously suggesting that Microsoft can be scared out of a market by a competitor? Perhaps I am missing something obvious here, I have before... but Microsoft competes in nearly every market, win or lose (or win and lose i.e. XBox). I have never seen Microsoft drop out of any market, I know they have somewhere but it is not like they are intimidated by ANY company. I also highly doubt Palm is just gonna go and say "Bah, fuck it, google would kick our ass, lets just start making bird houses.".

With more competition Microsoft is likely to just throw in more money - not to say the product will be better but they don't tuck tail and run.

Cool if it is a 20% project (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18373759)

Why would it be stupid to publicize a project employees run on their 20% self-determined time? It's not like the 20% is intended for slacking off, it's productive time in which you can create something you think is best for the company, instead of the drudgery the managers push on you. It's still paid time and the results belong to the employer, as is their right. But it would be amazingly cool if a group of people manage to create an entirely new kind of product (for the company) without the involvement of management.

Re:Cool if it is a 20% project (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374907)

>>it's productive time in which you can create something you think is best for the company,

I don't believe they put a condition that it has to be something you think is best for the company.
I am not 100% sure but from talking to them during the interview process, it doesn't sound like they put any condition on what you do as long as you do something you think is productive for you. I heard about many crazy things people do in their 20% time from my friends who work there. Nobody said they thought it was best for the company.

Re:Cool if it is a 20% project (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18377103)

At Google, it happens all the time. SOP.

Google maps on Smart Phones (1)

Doppler00 (534739) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373791)

Google already has an excellent Maps application that runs on Windows Mobile. It's absolutely amazing in that it has almost the exact functionality as the PC browser version. All the map content is downloaded over the network as images and even so, it runs even faster than Pocket Streets. Way more useful too.

Organizing the world's conversation (4, Funny)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373805)

From a leaked press release:

At Google we are committed to organizing the world's conversation. Our GPhone (or Google Telephone in Europe) will be entirely free, as will its service plan, so long as you agree to hear targeted ads during your conversations. This works in much the same way that GMail or GoogleMail parses your e-mail text for its ads. GPhone ads will be audio ads, akin to radio ads but targeted using keywords taken from your verbal conversation, and with the option to call the sponsor. If you call a friend and mention that you'd like to make vacation plans, for example, you may hear several brief ads for travel agencies, with the option to call each agency. When the ads are finished (or your convenient parallel-call to book an exciting Alaskan cruise is finished) you will be returned to the conversation with your friend, who will have waited patiently for you. Even more exciting is that all of your past conversations will be searchable, using Google's innovative new audio indexing algorithms.

A sample conversation (5, Funny)

cryptochrome (303529) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374077)

John: Hey darlin'!

Jane: John... we need to talk.

John: Uh, OK.

Jane: It's just not working out.

Google: Want abs you can grate cheese with? Join Bally Total Fitness!

John: God damn thing - wait, what are you saying?

Jane: It's over John.

John: But why?

Jane: It's not you, it's me.

Google: Head to iTunes to download hot new singles like "Why Can't I be You" by Taylor Hicks!

Jane: Oh god, he totally sucked.

John: Just ignore it, please? And don't give me that bullshit line. What's the real reason?

Jane: It's your damn gPhone, alright? We can never just talk!

Google: Reduce ads by getting your friends a gPhone of their very own!

Jane: Goodbye John.

John: Wait Jane-

Jane: [click]

John: Oh for fuck's sake.

Google: Looking for sensual encounters? Try AdultFriendFinder.com!

John: I guess I am now.

Some of the time? (2)

hey! (33014) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373809)

From TFA: "Some of the time the engineers are dedicated to developing a mobile phone."

Makes it sound like the engineers were sitting around in their treehouse and one of them thought it would be neat to make a really cool kinda phone thingy. Management overhears when its bringing them up a platter of PB&J sandwich,"OK, just don't fall behind on your homework." The wacky hijinks those kids get themselves into.

Seriously, the world doesn't need another mobile phone. But a real cool kinda phone thingy would be ... cool. I look at my phone, and I don't see a phone, I see a over narrow bandwidth pipe with badly designed fittings.

Re:Some of the time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374547)

More like the head person in the Spain office, who is a marketing person in charge of selling adwords and little else, fucked up. She received some information on the development of a phone in one of her conference calls with the Googleplex and just blurted it out, quite inconvemient and NDA-breakingly, in front of a journalist.

I am not surprised: this comes from the same Google Spain team that has been making it into newspaper articles with their spiffy headquarters, boasting about foosball tables, beanbags and free food for their marketroid drones. Same team that is personally responsible for more bubble 1.0 wipeouts than can be counted with an even temper.

Re:Some of the time? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18376789)

...I see a over narrow bandwidth pipe with badly designed fittings.

My girlfriend said the same thing last night, but she was talking about my genitals.

the next computing platform (1)

boxlight (928484) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373855)

It's apparent that both Apple and Google believe that the phone/hand-held-computer will be the next dominant computing platform, and they're intent on wrestling ownership of that platform away from RIM/Blackberry.

Interesting that Apple and Google are working tightly together on iPhone apps; now Google's working on their own phone, and there's also been rumors that Apple will license their "mini OS X" to other hand-helds. My guess is Google will be the first licensee, and Steve Jobs wants "mini OS X" to be the "Windows" of the 21st century.

Buy AAPL now for a times-20 return in 10 years.

boxlight

Re:the next computing platform (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374073)

My guess is Google will be the first licensee, and Steve Jobs wants "mini OS X" to be the "Windows" of the 21st century.

I seriously doubt that Google would license a proprietary OS like OS X; Google's motto is "do no evil", but moving the industry to another proprietary phone platform is about as evil as it gets.

Buy AAPL now for a times-20 return in 10 years.

Ah, now I see: you're part of an Apple pump-and-dump scheme.

Re:the next computing platform (1)

dfghjk (711126) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375049)

It's about time they caught on. The rest of the industry figured that out already.

RIM doesn't own the platform, they dominate the push-email communicator market. Symbian dominates smartphones with WM second.

"Interesting that Apple and Google are working tightly together on iPhone apps..."

Apple is working with Google because they want Google Maps Mobile running on their device. There's no reason to consider it any kind of partnership. GMM already runs on oher platforms and Apple doesn't offer a public SDK, remember?

"...and there's also been rumors that Apple will license their "mini OS X" to other hand-helds."

One unconfirmed rumor of such thing. Why would potential customers desire to license the most immature, unproven mobile OS platform, one that's never shipped, and one that has no SDK? Even if Apple wanted to do it, they're pretty far off from any such thing. Nothing more than a fanboy fantasy.

"My guess is Google will be the first licensee, and Steve Jobs wants "mini OS X" to be the "Windows" of the 21st century."

Must be your fantasy. Lets see Apple actually deliver a desirable cell phone first.

They're also working on World Domination (2, Funny)

guruevi (827432) | more than 7 years ago | (#18373897)

No, seriously, some engineers are working on a plan for Google World Domination (I don't know whether it's going to remain Beta) including a Google (Moon)Base and more... that they're working on free wireless for everybody and/or a phone doesn't surprise me.

Re:They're also working on World Domination (1)

stud9920 (236753) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376763)

including a Google (Moon)Base
As long as they don't make a "Glaser"...

the industry needs this (3, Interesting)

nanosquid (1074949) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374013)

Whatever this is, it's gotta be better than Windows Mobile, Palm, Symbian, or iPhone.

Why is it better than iPhone you ask? Because, apart from being one of the most restrictive and proprietary phones around, the iPhone has the outmoded usage model that the user wants to tie his phone to some desktop machine. I don't want to sync with a desktop, I want to sync with a network service.

Re:the industry needs this (1)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374515)

I'm amazed at how much of an opinion you have on a device that isn't even been released yet, and that, by the accounts of everyone who's touched it, that quite a few features are simply screenshots.

Re:the industry needs this (1)

nanosquid (1074949) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374901)

I'm amazed at how much of an opinion you have on a device that isn't even been released yet,

Apple's own materials tell us that it has desktop synchronization and no third party applications:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/ [apple.com]

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36 919 [theinquirer.net]

Furthermore, it's likely that the desktop synchronization will evolve out of iSync and iTunes.

The fact that Jobs has been lying about why Apple made the iPhone so restrictive also speaks for itself.

Of course, Apple will likely offer some form of network-based synchronization at some point (probably at least to .Mac and maybe to Google); that doesn't change what I was saying. A programmable, network-centric Google phone is still a much better choice than Apple's proprietary, iPod-like iPhone.

Re:the industry needs this (1)

Internet Ronin (919897) | more than 7 years ago | (#18377499)

Dude, are you on CRACK?

Mmmmkay, let's say that I grant you every horror story you seem to have concocted about the iPhone, and that it's a horrible, closed platform requiring desktop synchronization and a ritual baby sacrifice. Whatever, nevermind that you have not used/owned an iPhone, and really have only circumstantial evidence to support your claims, let's see why Google's mobile phone offering is superior....

Because it's programmable and network-centric? Man, I'm all for, um, being crazy or whatever it is you're doing here, but seriously, you're comparing an unreleased, only recently announced product from a company that continues to shroud it and its development in secrecy to a product that hasn't been released, hasn't been announced, hasn't even been confirmed except by a cavalier mention of it in a single document, that contains ZERO specifics??

The quote "I'm amazed at how much of an opinion you have on a device that isn't even released yet" doesn't NEED to apply to the iPhone, I wanna know how the hell you can claim to know anything about this mythical GPhone, and how it works without violating any NDAs. And what the hell is this alleged "fact" you've thrown in about Steve Jobs lying about why it's closed? I missed the evidence supporting that claim, and since we're taking so many hits from the CrazyBong, I'm not taking your word for it.

Google has, in the past, released effective, quality products, and have enjoyed commercial success on a global and personal scale. I use Google and Google products, and will continue to in the future. Apple too has earned similar respect from me, as a consumer.

You have just compared two things that you literally have ZERO perception of (other than a picture of ONE of them), much less any actual interaction.

Re:the industry needs this (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18375069)

Maybe you feel secure keeping all your info on someone else's machine that you have no control over....I myself do not. I want my phone to be tied to --at most-- to my desktop and nothing else. The iPhone is not deficient in that respect to me.

Re:the industry needs this (1)

nanosquid (1074949) | more than 7 years ago | (#18377019)

Maybe you feel secure keeping all your info on someone else's machine that you have no control over....I myself do not.

The iPhone is a machine you have no control over.

I want my phone to be tied to --at most-- to my desktop and nothing else.

The iPhone is tied to your carrier and Apple. You have no control over what it does, how it does it, who it transmits your data to, or whether it does so securely.

As for storing my data on a network server, I have no problem with that as long as it's encrypted, and that's the way Google has handled sensitive and personal information in the past (e.g. Google Browser Sync). Furthermore, it sounds like that, in contrast to the iPhone, the Google Phone will be programmable, so you can probably add your own apps.

Re:the industry needs this (1)

treeves (963993) | more than 7 years ago | (#18377861)

Is that related to the fact that Apple was able to keep the iPhone a secret so well for so long, while Google couldn't, or is that just because Steve Ballmer is right: Google is just too big for its own good?

Connecting text searches with your voice and face. (0, Redundant)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374041)

In Capitalist West dedicated CIA engineers make you want google phone.
In Soviet Russia dedicated KGB engineers find google phone targeted you.

The CIA will have so much fun with the targeted advertising backend.
Links google cookies, voice recording and phonecam?
NSA can link your web searches with your voice and face for free.

Google Phone motto is... (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374103)

...Hear no Evil.

Apparently the new Google Video service (YouTube) motto, "See no Evil" hasn't caught on yet... :-)

I can see it now... (0, Troll)

Ximba (991506) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374195)

Goo, goo, goo, goo, goo, goo, goo, google phone~
Ging, gang, ging, gang, ging, gang, ging, google phone~

I thank Myou for y0ur time (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18374283)

feel Obligated to notwIthstanding,

Check the job postings at Google (1)

JackMeyhoff (1070484) | more than 7 years ago | (#18374993)

They have an open position for head of Spain and Porgugal regions :)

When I hear of a Google phone... (1)

pairo (519657) | more than 7 years ago | (#18375801)

I reach for my gun.

Start small (1)

fsmunoz (267297) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376719)

I would urge the exec of Google Spain and Portugal to take advantage of the insane mobile coverage available to start providing the services that Google offers in the US. The SMS services are not to my knowledge available in Portugal - and probably it's the same for Spain). Myabe they want to skip it for a "new generation" thingie custom made for the iPhone, using UMTS/3G. Even if they are nice many people still use simple SMS instead of MMS and the like. I would probably be more interested in the "simpler" service then in a uber-complete 3D map of my current location with all the services surrounding me... Wait, that actually sounds nice.

wimax (1)

Darth Cider (320236) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376749)

Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google and board-member of Apple, said something cryptic after the introduction of the iPhone at Apple's last keynote. "Wimax is coming."

Mobile Froogle would be vicious (1)

br0d (765028) | more than 7 years ago | (#18376819)

*Walks into store*
"Say, sport, how much is this radio?"
"243 bucks," He opines.
*Froogles*
"O'rly?"

Granted, you can do that now with printouts, and many people google from their phones, but widespread majority on-the-fly price lookups are gonna devastate local and regional retail mark-up. Lol at the end of market exploitation by isolation. Even now the nemesis of the retail salesman is the guy who comes in to check a product out, and then goes home to buy it on the inertnet.

Apple fanbois are scared shitless!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18377351)

I've already seen several comments trying to deny that Google is releasing a phone. These comments are from Apple fanbois that are pissing in their pants that Google is gonna whip Apple's ass in the mobile phone market.
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