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NASA Confirms Solar Storm Near 2012

CmdrTaco posted about 7 years ago | from the get-out-your-foil-hats dept.

NASA 344

An anonymous reader writes "`This week researchers announced that a storm is coming — the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.`

`Dikpati's forecast puts Solar Max at 2012. Hathaway believes it will arrive sooner, in 2010 or 2011.`

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"

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Oh nooo!!! (3, Funny)

scsirob (246572) | about 7 years ago | (#18427579)

This explains it all! Higher activity on the sun accounts for higher temperatures on Earth and Mars. Next thing you know there will be no explanation for global warming anymore..

Re:Oh nooo!!! (5, Funny)

endianx (1006895) | about 7 years ago | (#18427663)

Not true at all! This is just proof that mans impact on the environment extends throughout the solar system. It wasn't enough for us to mess up our own planet, now we have caused solar warming as well!

Re:Oh nooo!!! (0, Flamebait)

ccarson (562931) | about 7 years ago | (#18428431)

Here are some facts about global warming. Some of which you hear and don't hear from the main stream media:

1.) Apparently, the Earth magnetic field has decreased by 10% in the last 150 years (source: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/earth_magnet ic_031212.html [space.com]). I'm an electrical engineer and during my studies in particle physics, I learned that a particles velocity can be affected by magnetic fields. I believe it's possible that more of the Sun's radiation is penetrating the Earth's magnetosphere ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_magnetic_fiel d [wikipedia.org] ) due to it being weaker. If more radiation hits the Earth, shouldn't that also increase the overall temperature of the Earth and can global warming be attributed to this?
2.) Jupitor is experiencing the same climate change that Earth is. (source: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_j [space.com] r.html [space.com])
3.) Mars is experiencing the same climate change that Earth is. (source: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/ [space.com] mars_snow_011206-1.html and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new s/news.html?in_article_id=410901&in_page_id=1770 [dailymail.co.uk])

How can you explain the recent same climate changes on different planets? I doubt it's all those cars being driven there.
4.) The United Nations found that there is more Methane produced from livestock, which raises global temperature greater than CO2 by a factor of approx. 20, than any human caused CO2 combined (source: http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/i ndex.html [fao.org])

Is it possible that the warmer temperatures that Earth is experiencing are caused by cyclical natural phenomena? What about glaciers in Greenland that have been shrinking for 100 years (source: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/21/060821191 [breitbart.com] 826.o0mynclv.html [breitbart.com])? Also, how do you explain huge ice ages on Earth? Were these caused by huge carbon emissions or was it a small natural climate cycle that just happens? Were those climate changes, which are no doubt more extreme than what's going on now, caused by the combustion engine? I don't have answers and everyone seems to have an opinion including a Nobel laureate who says the answer is more pollution (source: http://reports.discoverychannel.ca/servlet/an/disc overy/1/20061117/discovery_pollutionsolution_06111 7/20061117?hub=DiscoveryReport [discoverychannel.ca])

One last thing. Lets say we all buy into the fact that we're causing the climate change through CO2. Regardless of what actions we (America) take, China will still produce more CO2 than anyone because they want to get rich. There's no stopping it folks.

Re:Oh nooo!!! (0)

Wah (30840) | about 7 years ago | (#18427691)

If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.`

It's not talking about the solar max of 107,993 BC.

Re:Oh nooo!!! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427965)

It is no coincidence, the Mayas kwew what they were doing. However, 21 of Dec 2012 is not the destruction of the earth, but the main point of a worldwide change which we can have the chance to be part of.
These changes in the sun's weather are produced by the central sun in our galaxy, and this date in 2012, will be like a new birth for mankind and our blue planet.
In the years preceeding this event, we will see how the old-age fight between good and evil will reach its peak. We need not to be afraid though, because if we are worthy to move beyond this date, our bodies are already being transformed, purified, ready for a jump in dimension.
Millions are those fighting for a better world, and the end of times, which the Mayas and Jesus (Mat 24) spoke about are in front of us. I am personally looking forward to that day, in which everything that was lost or stolen from our past will be given back, and we will know as a race, our duty in this universe, evolving our way into infinity. FP.

Everybody Panic ;-) (1)

Alien54 (180860) | about 7 years ago | (#18428079)

as we all know, some idiot predicted that the Earth would be hit hard in the nearish future, almost wiped out entirely, due to a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) aimed directly at the planet.

Not very likely, although a lot of satellites, etc. will probably suddenly become due for major upgrades.

Re:Oh nooo!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428215)

Satire doesn't work well when you have no obvious target, BECOME LESS VAGUE.

Re:Oh nooo!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428223)

Al Gore is running for President in 2012.

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?

Re:Oh nooo!!! (1)

MikeyTheK (873329) | about 7 years ago | (#18428245)

Well, that will mean lower cloud cover as the sunspots will reduce cosmic radiation reaching the earth, which will mean warmer temperatures for that period.

Re:Oh nooo!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428395)

Go back to school and take some second year chemistry, it very basic science. It is not that hard to comprehend.

Your ignorance (in both senses), is not in the least amusing. I pity you. I forgive you.

Umm, old news? (5, Informative)

Zarhan (415465) | about 7 years ago | (#18427583)

The article is dated March 10, 2006.

Re:Umm, old news? (5, Funny)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | about 7 years ago | (#18427875)

News goes in a cycle.

This news will be repeated again and again, reaching DUPE MAX sometime just AFTER the SOLAR MAX predicted.

It is not, however, a harbinger for the end of dupes.

Re:Umm, old news? (4, Insightful)

daeg (828071) | about 7 years ago | (#18428023)

As someone who used to work in news, I can tell you that is entirely false. After the event, there are even more stories that you can pull from an event than there were leading up to the event. For instance: Did the storm affect anything? Was it stronger than predicted? Why? Does it affect local animals at all? What about children? Was your child affected? Can we link to to increased teen suicide? Was it caused by aliens? Can we find someone that thinks it was aliens? Was the prediction wrong? Was it right? Was it both right and wrong? Are there any local experts that can weigh in on the subject? ...no? Can we make some experts?

Local news was terrifying to say the least.

Apocalypse? (3, Insightful)

muellerr1 (868578) | about 7 years ago | (#18427589)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
Great. It wasn't enough that the fundies were predicting apocalypse, now there's a secular apocalypse to look forward to. And here I thought we were done with Y2K. Sheeple sure loves them some end times.

Re:Apocalypse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427653)

Mayans were not "secular", and neither is any hypothetical contemporary belief in Mayan prophecies. You mean something like "pagan".

Re:Apocalypse? (1)

muellerr1 (868578) | about 7 years ago | (#18428169)

Come on, you're just being mean to actual pagans. Anyone living today who believes in Mayan prophecies is just delusional.

Re:Apocalypse? (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | about 7 years ago | (#18427657)

Belief in a Christian apocalypse is non-secular, while belief in some other religion's apocalypse is secular?

Re:Apocalypse? (1)

muellerr1 (868578) | about 7 years ago | (#18428399)

Yes, when that culture, along with its religion, has been dead for centuries and all that's left are scarce or undecipherable relics such as this calendar system. Are you seriously implying that the OP practices an authentic Mayan religion? It's either that, or you're lumping superstition about nice round numbers in with religion.

Also, the term I used was 'fundie.' Though I meant it in a Christian sense as that's the dominant religion of my culture, that could mean a fundamentalist of any religion.

Re:Apocalypse? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427741)

Would it really be such a bad thing, though? Just think: we wouldn't have to worry about the 32-bit timer on Unix systems overflowing in 2038!

Yes, you've found a coincidence. Yippee. (1, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 7 years ago | (#18427611)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"

No. Yes.

Re:Yes, you've found a coincidence. Yippee. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427775)

December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar)

Noted. I'll be sure to eat mexican food on the 19th, and some german food on the 20th to make sure I have really bad gas on the 21st.

That way, if the world ends, I can take the credit because I was farting all day.

Insightful??? (-1, Flamebait)

dunc78 (583090) | about 7 years ago | (#18427971)

Wow, great moderating. Two whole words, and this is moderated insightful? That has to be the most efficient post in ./ history. I'm going to make a program that counts the number of questions marks in a post and responds with random sequences of no and yes. Depending on the diversity of perogatives and knowledge in the ./ community, I can get up to 2^(Number of ?'s) insightful posts per questioning post. I will be the most insightful person ever.

Re:Insightful??? (1)

El Torico (732160) | about 7 years ago | (#18428029)

Wow, that's even more insightful! Too bad I used my mod points on the now infamous "binary post". Just kidding, I don't have mod points today.

Re:Insightful??? (1)

revlayle (964221) | about 7 years ago | (#18428109)

Would the answer:

"Yes. Yes."
...be moderated higher? Because that is how I would have answered the question.

Bah... (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | about 7 years ago | (#18427617)

...every knows the Mayan calender only ended on that date because they ran out of rock face to chisel it on. I'm sure it could've gone on for millions of years.

Re:Bah... (1)

peragrin (659227) | about 7 years ago | (#18427985)

actually it makes a nice round number. Think of it like y2k for the mayan people. It was far enough into the future to not worry about it.

Oddly enough the Mayans thought farther ahead than Unix programmers. twice. Y2k and the year 2038.

December 21, 2012 (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427627)

12/21/2012 12+21+20+12=65 !! That's how old Jesus would be if he was born in 1942!! COINCIDENCE??

Coincidence? (4, Insightful)

Skidge (316075) | about 7 years ago | (#18427633)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
Yes. Yes, it is.

2012 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427649)

Segway II? The newest Mac? Underwear that doesn't crawl?

I vote all the above.

Sure.... (2, Insightful)

Zeek40 (1017978) | about 7 years ago | (#18427659)

If they're as accurate at predicting storms on the sun as they are here on earth, I'll believe them when it's happening.

Re:Sure.... (1)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | about 7 years ago | (#18428437)

The funny thing about your post is that, if there really is a big solar storm, one of its first consequences will be a reduction of the quality of the weather forecasts because the satelites will suffer from increased noise in their sensors and communication devices and (in case of a realy nasty solar storm) temporary electronic failures.
But don't worry, odds that this activity peak would cause the end of the world as we know it is basically the same as the one of 1958 (0.0000000000000000%).

Coincidence (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 7 years ago | (#18427671)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar?
Yes, I am familiar with the Tzolk'in Calendar.

December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?
Yes, coincidence. I was first exposed to the-world-will-end-in-2012 when I read Graham's book Fingerprints of the Gods. I wasn't sold on his numerology.

Let me break it down for you: the Mayans had a very advanced & complex calendar that took into account a lot of different cycles and even some of the most extraordinary hiccups that come with man's attempt at keeping track of time. For the Gregorian calendar, we have leap years except we skip one every four hundred years and even with that in place I think we lose a day every 8,000 years. And you will find that every model has some special issues.

So, back to the Mayans, their measurements of days came in sets of 13, contrary to our sets of 7 days in a week. So the world is no more likely to end on than it was on the new years even in year seven. Just because 13 was always the last number in their cycles just means that we start a new cycle. No cataclysmic event needed to mark it. The cycle simply repeats and they most likely go to there's no such thing as overflow in their calendar.

Fun hokey astrological implications? Yes. Cold hard scientific data pointing to the end of the world? No.

Re:Coincidence (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427817)

For the Gregorian calendar, we have leap years except we skip one every four hundred years and even with that in place I think we lose a day every 8,000 years

Correction: We have leap years every 4 years, skip one every 100 years, but add one back every 400 years.

Re:Coincidence (4, Informative)

Bacon Bits (926911) | about 7 years ago | (#18427851)

The Gregorian calendar has leap years as follows:
Every year divisible by 4 is a leap year.
Except when that year is also divisible by 100, in which case it is *not* a leap year.
Except when that year is also divisible by 400, in which case it *is* a leap year.

Hence 2000 was a leap year. 2100 will not be.

The fun hokeyness is due to the Western assumption that everything is linear, in spite of the fact that we repeat months, days of months, and days of weeks constantly. We don't find it odd that there are thousands of Wednesdays or March 21sts, but somehow we can't understand there ever being more than one 2007.

Re:Coincidence (5, Funny)

jrumney (197329) | about 7 years ago | (#18427957)

but somehow we can't understand there ever being more than one 2007.

There was another, 4014 years ago. What I can't figure out is how prehistoric man knew when Jesus was going to be born/die/be baptised or whatever event you believe led to the changeover, and how clever it was of him to count backwards.

Re:Coincidence (1)

Knux (990961) | about 7 years ago | (#18428377)

I was going to try to explain that to you... then I realized it was a joke...

And unlike other /. readers, that would explain it anyway just to be modded insightful, I'll just stop here and go get some cofdee.

Re:Coincidence (1)

revlayle (964221) | about 7 years ago | (#18428207)

I always thought was a crock. People who believe this always say "Then why does it end on 12/21/2012??? It must be significant!" My answer: "Well, the calendar's got to end somewhere. My calendar ends on 12/12/2007. OH NOES! WE GONNA DIES!"

Anyone can extend the Gregorian calendar as we know the rules on how to continue that calendar (hence why we get 2008 calendars). I'm sure, if someone really wanted to, that the Mayan calendar *could be EXTENDED* beyond 12/21/2012 as well. Doing so would be academic, as probably no one uses the Mayan calendar for everyday use.

I mean c'mon, there's not a patch for Windows yet that lets me use it.

Re:Coincidence (1)

Grashnak (1003791) | about 7 years ago | (#18428331)

"Well, the calendar's got to end somewhere.
Ya, damn inconsiderate of them not to have carved out their calendar until the end of time. Not like it would have taken them forever or anything... lol

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? (5, Funny)

Peter Trepan (572016) | about 7 years ago | (#18427673)

Is it the one where all twelve are nude except for loincloths and headdresses?

Um... no, I'm not familiar with it.

Re:Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? (5, Funny)

Bandman (86149) | about 7 years ago | (#18428147)

Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?

Why am I the only one who has that dream?

Re:Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428371)

Your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Great more doom (2, Insightful)

creeves1982 (880009) | about 7 years ago | (#18427675)

First its Y2K then killer asteroids, Unix timestamp running out in 2038 now this. Whats next?

Re:Great more doom (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427779)

Don't you worry your pretty head, they'll think of SOMETHING.

Re:Great more doom (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | about 7 years ago | (#18428095)

Don't worry - that asteroid will hit us in 2036, thus solving the great 32-bit unix timestamp.

(does anyone run 32-bit unix anymore? Windows, yes, but Unix?)

The Mayan calendar change isn't significant (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | about 7 years ago | (#18427687)

It's just the end of the current round of the long count in the calendar. Then it start over.

It's not the end of anything in any significant sense, just the turning of a wheel. It's just as reasonable to think of it as a beginning.

But the Jaguars man! (0, Offtopic)

geekoid (135745) | about 7 years ago | (#18427951)

Won't anyone think of the Jaguars!

Not to mods: If you believe that was off topic, then you need to brush up on your Mayan mythology.

Re:The Mayan calendar change isn't significant (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428085)

You aren't familiar with the shift to the Sixth World [wikipedia.org], are you?

Ham Radio operators know what to do! (5, Interesting)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 7 years ago | (#18427699)

Get ready for those long-distance ham radio contacts when the ionosphere goes crazy, and conditions generally improve even when it's not crazy! And now that there's no more Morse Code test, we'll see a lot of people who were stuck on VHF before on the HF bands.

Looking at auroras will be cool too. Be sure to reserve the left seat on US to Europe red-eye flights, I've seen amazing aurorae out that window, nothing that you could see from the ground.


Re:Ham Radio operators know what to do! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427901)

I always sit on the right side of those flights. That way I can look down the aisle of seats, right at the pert tits of the mid-30's Swiss businesswoman sitting watching the aurorae.

Re:Ham Radio operators know what to do! (1)

Bardez (915334) | about 7 years ago | (#18428277)

And you can even communicate with your dead father in the past about the world series, save some nurses and watch a guy's arm dissolve through time! See: Frequency [imdb.com] [IMDB]

Second to 1958 activity (1)

SpelledBackwards (587772) | about 7 years ago | (#18427701)

If it is second to the great storm of 1958 (need I remind you that we lived through it?), then what's the big deal besides a greater reliance on technology these days? If it were 5 times stronger than the '58 storm, then I could see a concern arising.

Only thing I can think of is the smaller features in electronics lending themselves to higher susceptibility to cosmic radiation than before.

Re:Second to 1958 activity (1)

the grace of R'hllor (530051) | about 7 years ago | (#18427763)

Apart from solar activity causing powerplants to be shut down (as I recall reading), keep in mind that we very much depend on satellites being alive, these days, and satellites are less well naturally shielded than earthbound electronics.

Re:Second to 1958 activity (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | about 7 years ago | (#18427883)

It was 1958. The powerplants shut down because all the plant workers had to get home to beat their wives, listen to Elvis records, and oppress black people.

It also probably didn't help that crazy scientists were sending lightening strikes directly into the power grid to help whiney punks get back to 1985.

That was 1955 (1)

argent (18001) | about 7 years ago | (#18427915)

You can't blame the lightning strikes on Emmet Brown, that was three years earlier.

Re:That was 1955 (1)

elrous0 (869638) | about 7 years ago | (#18428105)

No, that damn kid kept coming back. Emmett finally cut him off and just left him stranded there in 1960.

Full of Tubes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427905)

Also keep in mind, that in 1958, most all electronic devices in commercial usage were based on vacuum tubes ("valves" for you Brits). Tube-type electronic circuits are very resistant to damage and disruption of operation by the kind of radiation that would reach Earth from solar events... and also from nuclear radiation as well. Solid-state electronics though beginning to become available, were not in widespread use very much at all. [transistormuseum.com]

Re:Second to 1958 activity (2, Funny)

Rooked_One (591287) | about 7 years ago | (#18427767)

like the millions of cell phones that millions of people base their lives on? Its times like these I really appriciate my little black PAPER book.

Re:Second to 1958 activity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428235)

Um, the solar flare isn't going to fry everyone's electronics (unless they make a habit of keeping their digital address book in geosynchronous orbit). It's just going to interfere with radio communication. So everyone will be able to look up their friend's phone number in their Treo/Sidekick/paper book. They just won't be able to call anyone without a landline.

Sweet! (4, Informative)

DoctorPepper (92269) | about 7 years ago | (#18427721)

Looks like I need to really get to work on my Elecraft K1. With a solar maximum like they're predicting, QRP is going to be awesome!

Batteries!!!! (1)

mulvane (692631) | about 7 years ago | (#18427723)

More batteries!! That's gonna be a lot of wasted solar energy. I need to double up on cells, and make sure I have enough batteries to store as much as possible. (Granted, I'm not account for 1% loss per day of total capacity of the store).

We arranged this for the Olympics (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427729)

So that we'd have sunshine in London during the games. :-)

Coincidence? (1, Redundant)

thefirelane (586885) | about 7 years ago | (#18427735)

Yes, next question

This is easy.

Re:Coincidence? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428127)

It gets even easier soon. Just wait for the dupe!

Re:Coincidence? (1)

greg0020 (1078365) | about 7 years ago | (#18428329)

After reading all of the posts so far, I must say I am quite disappointed at the shallow, dismissive behavior exhibited by many of you. Either you are: a) So very afraid of the concept that the Mayans predicted an event that might affect your cozy little arrogant world. b) So wrapped up in the current science that your mind is a closed box unwilling to admit that an ancient civilization could have had any sort of astronomical ability. Those who have studied the Mayans knows their calendar doesn't just end in 2012. They actually did predict major astronomical events occuring which would have devestating effects on the planet. I'm not saying we should all believe this and dig a bunker, but for Pete's sake have a deeper, more well-informed discussion that I know you all are capable of doing.

So what does it mean? (1)

flaknugget (938238) | about 7 years ago | (#18427777)

So can anyone say, with any amount of certainty, how a major solar storm will effect us earthlings? Or is that a silly questions?

Msayan, something I found interesting (0, Offtopic)

Drakin020 (980931) | about 7 years ago | (#18427789)

http://futurenewsinfo.blogspot.com/2004/12/nuclear -war-futurists-view-bible-code.html [blogspot.com]


What follows is taken from Carlos Barrios' presentation, in his own words: "On December 21, 2012 we will begin to see the fifth sun. With this period will come harmony of space and time, with this period will come balance and a big relation to Mother Earth.

Jut thought that was interesting.

Maybe (1)

atamyrat (980611) | about 7 years ago | (#18427853)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"

In Soviet Russia... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427967)

...will it be coming in the morning or the afternoon? Because the plumber is coming in the morning.

FF (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18427983)

Fantastic Four Anyone?

An interesting subject.. (2, Interesting)

zyl0x (987342) | about 7 years ago | (#18428015)

Supposed "remote viewer" Major Ed Dames [wikipedia.org] has not-so-accurately predicted such a solar flare. He calls it the "Killshot" and says it will end most life on the planet.

And naturally he is selling the secrets of how to survive this solar flare on DVD for the low low price of $24.99. Still, it's interesting to see a psychic's claim being backed by scientific observations.

Considering the "political" and environmental (2, Interesting)

Shivetya (243324) | about 7 years ago | (#18428019)

climate I would be curious what side effects they think this will have on our world other than electromagnetic issues?

Does sunspot activity correspond to an decrease in the amount of radiation hitting the earth? If we are at a low point now for sunspots will their increase be truly noticable?

I am only wondering as some scientists have put forward the idea that the sun's activities plays a much greater role in our environment than many give it credit for.

So will an increase in sunspot activity affect us? ( I have no idea, hence I am asking from people who do)

An Interesting Read On The Subject (2, Informative)

bc90021 (43730) | about 7 years ago | (#18428073)

Bringing up the Mayan Calendar, and the sun's various cycles, is a book called "Apocalypse 2012 [amazon.com]". (Not an affiliate link.) It's not as dire as the title might sound, though the author (Lawrence E. Joseph) does explore some of the various issues with that date. One concept he examines is that as the solar system moves around the galactic center, the earth has been shielded from various radiations it will no longer be shielded from after that date.

Coincidence? (1)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | about 7 years ago | (#18428087)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?"
In Dubuque Iowa a woman severely burns her hand at the same exact moment her daughter is giving her boyfriend a hand job 8 miles away in his car.. Coincidence?

Re:Coincidence? (1)

pl1ght (836951) | about 7 years ago | (#18428159)

Hahaha, owned. Thats how bogus the doods statement is. Kudos on that retort. God slashdot you guys are getting more and more hokey everyday.

Climate Change Linked to Solar Activity (4, Interesting)

WED Fan (911325) | about 7 years ago | (#18428189)

This article [nasa.gov] from NASA JPL is very informative on the subject.

The researchers found some clear links between the sun's activity and climate variations. The Nile water levels and aurora records had two somewhat regularly occurring variations in common - one with a period of about 88 years and the second with a period of about 200 years.

I think we need to take a look at the hysteria. It is turn our attention away from what we can do to better this planet. And, the idea of carbon offsets just makes people feel better for their polution levels.

Global Warming has become the new Medieval Church and anyone who does not walk a precise line on the message faces the New Inquisition.

We do need to live more green, more clean, and more simple. But, the public won't buy off on that message if we keep tying it to the Holy Church of Global Warming Hysteria. If we can show more immediate effects of living green and clean the public will follow.

We need to separate those whose real agenda is socio-economic change from the environmental argument. They aren't really interested in the environment, anyway. We need to remove the scammers, like the "carbon offset" (unregulated, uncertified, non-verifiable) companies to improve public perception.

We need to substitue Ed Beagley Jr. for Al Gore. Ed lives, breathes, talks, and walks the environment. Al Gore, while talking about it, still jets around the world, when he could use his own invention, the Internet, to show up at appearances, he maintains a house in Tennessee that uses 20 times the amount of energy as his neighbors, he is a glutton who preaches about the wonders of a diet.

Date Correction (2, Informative)

tenma4 (1078379) | about 7 years ago | (#18428219)

I believe the actual date from the Mayan calendar is Sunday, December 23rd, 2012. A friend and I have had a wager riding on this one for 11 years...

MAyan calendar? (0, Redundant)

Vexorian (959249) | about 7 years ago | (#18428243)

Anyone familiar with the Mayan Calendar? December 21, 2012 ( in the Mayan Calendar) Coincidence?
No. Yes.

* Expects to get +5 Insightful for this lame post *

you'd think it would've ended sooner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428269)

Didn't _their_ end times happen a few hundred years ago? I'd say they actually overshot the thing a bit.

We're not going to pass through the tail ... (2, Funny)

RembrandtX (240864) | about 7 years ago | (#18428345)

We're not going to pass through the tail of a comet are we ?
I mean .. solar storms I can handle, but those damn comet tails hold zombies.
Self preservation would make me hide out in a tin garden shed, or the back of my big-rig,
but really, the world is just doomed from that point on.

Increased activity warms Earth, and (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#18428347)

shield against cosmic rays which cause water droplets to form, which makes clouds which cools the Earth, so that when activity is high, Earth heats up.

This shows a FAR higher correlation to climate change than does CO2, which appears to be an effect, and not a cause.
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