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The Virtual Teacher

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the aibo-ate-my-homework dept.

The Internet 94

Roland Piquepaille writes "Researchers from Illinois and Florida are developing a networking system which will create virtual representations of real people to improve our knowledge. They will use artificial intelligence and natural language processing software to enable us to interact with these avatars. The goal of the project, sponsored by the National Science Foundation (NSF), is to give us the possibility to interact with these virtual representations as if they were the actual person, complete with the ability to understand and answer questions. We should see the results at the beginning of 2008 — if the researchers succeed."

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Vacuous article (5, Insightful)

nebaz (453974) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614551)



Summary of article (IMHO):

        Guess what. In the future, we will create avatars that will look and sound just like real people. To see how far along we are, take a look at some of these avatars

      (decent graphical images, which not an AI make)

      There's some money from the NSF to continue this effort.

      Really smart guys are working on ways to get realistic sounding voices and
      mannerisms.

      We're using motion capture too.

      Is this commercially viable? We'll have to see.


First of all, this virtual avatar stuff is icing on the cake. The first (easiest) Turing test implementation does not require body language, realistic avatars, or
mannerisms, and we are still YEARS from that. What makes anyone think that this is remotely possible by next year?

P.S. The submitter's name seems familiar. Where have I heard it before?

 

Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614661)

I know that a lot of people here at Slashdot have a burning hatred for Roland Piquepaille. But I find it confusing. The articles he submits are always very interesting, especially for those of us interested in science. They're the epitome of "news for nerds".

I wish that we had more of the insightful, informative Roland Piquepaille-style articles here, and fewer articles about anime, D&D, and other such topics.

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (5, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614795)

I know that a lot of people here at Slashdot have a burning hatred for Roland Piquepaille. But I find it confusing. The articles he submits are always very interesting, especially for those of us interested in science. They're the epitome of "news for nerds".

The problem is that he submits interesting articles which are linked via his blog. So we read a blog story about a blog story about something interesting.

He forces slashdotters to go through his site (racking up hits and advertising dollars) to read the actual interesting content...

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614849)

He forces slashdotters to go through his site (racking up hits and advertising dollars) to read the actual interesting content...

You're quite wrong; Mr. Piquepaille provides a very useful service. His summaries are of great use to busy people like myself, who wish to stay up-to-date with recent developments, but who do not have the time to read lengthy articles. He gets us the information we need in a swift and efficient manner.

Astroturf alert (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614917)

You're quite wrong; Mr. Piquepaille provides a very useful service. His summaries are of great use to busy people like myself, who wish to stay up-to-date with recent developments, but who do not have the time to read lengthy articles. He gets us the information we need in a swift and efficient manner.

And you sound very suspiciously like Roland (or CNET) astroturfing from an anonymous account. Who are you?

Re:Astroturf alert (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614971)

Of course I could be nobody but Mr. Piquepaille. It's not like I'm somebody who just appreciates the summaries he writes of otherwise lengthy articles. Yeah, it must be a conspiracy. Oh, but wait! How do we know that you're not actually Roland Piquepaille writing as SuperBanana, putting up anti-Piquepaille posts in order to create controvery, and hence publicity?

Wait, wait. I get it. Somebody posting as "SuperBanana" is far less anonymous than somebody posting as Anonymous Coward. Whew! It's a good thing we figured that out. For a moment there I actually thought that you might have had a point. But then I remembered that you're just a sour cunt, jealous because Mr. Piquepaille provides a damn useful service to a great many people. Yeah, that's right. He lives a productive life, while you waste away in your parents' basement, stroking your semi-flaccid cock to movie stills of Carrie Fisher.

Re:Astroturf alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615225)

But then I remembered that you're just a sour cunt, jealous because Mr. Piquepaille provides a damn useful service to a great many people. Yeah, that's right. He lives a productive life, while you waste away in your parents' basement, stroking your semi-flaccid cock to movie stills of Carrie Fisher.

This is possibly the funniest thing I have read on the net today, as if your cover was not blown already Roland Nobappeal. Then you posted this.

Honestly, I don't know what's funnier, you acting like a complete twat or the bit about the parent being a 'sour cunt'! How exactly is submitting advertisments to Slashdot 'leading a productive life'?! You've even stolen your blog design from Groklaw [groklaw.net] !

I had no prejudice against you, Mr Nobappeal, until reading this post and your astroturfing. Now I have: nice one. Now fuck off to digg.com, whatever, this meeting is over, you suck, buh-bye!

Mod parent funny - it's Roland's sock puppet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615589)

Parent post has to be a Roland sock puppet.

So mod it funny.

It is.

Re:Astroturf alert (1)

VON-MAN (621853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18617403)

Isn't that what every AC dreams of, being accused of actually being someone? Just leave it, you're barking up an empty tree.

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (1)

luckystuff (836232) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616499)

I agree. Shady, yet market-efficient ethics at best. I don't like making extra clicks to get to vacuous articles with minimal, obvious commentary (although this sounds alot like articles from wired, computerworld, pcmag, and many others). Does /. have a policy on this? Shouldn't the poster be require to link directly to actual vacuous article in question? Can't we use the power of the unfunded mandate to legislate the actions of posters? Perhaps we should take this to SCOTUS. Does Groklaw have anything on this?

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (1)

fbjon (692006) | more than 7 years ago | (#18617787)

I still don't see how this is different from many other, worse blogs/sites linked to in slashdot articles. Why are Roland's articles so OMGHorrible (tm)? I mean, the original article is linked right there in the slashdot summary, contrary to what might be expected in any other slashdot article on a blog posting. This boycott is a bit of a flaming WTF to me, really.

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (2, Informative)

CmdrPorno (115048) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614807)

He used to summarize the articles on his blog, and then submit the link to his blog on Slashdot instead of linking to the original article, which netted him ad dollars every time someone visited. Now, he submits links to the original article, but still gets a link back to his blog (if you click on his name). Most Slashdotters still hold a grudge against him for his past actions, which is understandable since he was essentially spamming.

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (0, Troll)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614951)

It's not that understandable, actually. He wasn't spamming, he was summarizing articles people found interesting. There's just a contingent of people on Slashdot are grouchy about anyone making money. Most of us don't really care if the guy gets a buck or two.

For that matter, how is it less objectionable for Slashdot itself to make ad money? They don't even bother finding the articles, or doing anything useful with them in any way. Roland at least provided something for the clicks. All we get here is inane commentary which, lets face it, is just a time sink for those of us who can't find anything better to do.

Re:Why does everyone hate Roland Piquepaille? (3, Informative)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 7 years ago | (#18618293)

Now, he submits links to the original article, but still gets a link back to his blog (if you click on his name). Most Slashdotters still hold a grudge against him for his past actions, which is understandable since he was essentially spamming.

Actually, the zdnet article he linked to is a blog that Roland writes for zdnet. So, he is still linking to his spam. Unfortunately, zdnet seems to think that Roland is providing a useful service, just like Taco does. I was sort of hoping Roland would go away, and he is only becoming more popular.

STFU Roland, you click whore (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615341)

Geez, you must give Taco one helluva reacharound.

That sarcasm is worthy of Jonathan Swift! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615855)

Because "I wish that we had more of the insightful, informative Roland Piquepaille-style articles here" has to be sarcastic, if only to avoid being pathetic.

tag: boycottroland (5, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614687)

P.S. The submitter's name seems familiar. Where have I heard it before?

Roland submits dozens upon dozens of stories to Slashdot. "Vacuous" is pretty accurate; I've repeatedly heard Slashdotters ask for the ability to filter his crap like we used to be able to filter Jon Katz.

The primary difference is that while Katz was batshit insane and overimpressed with himself, Roland simply states the obvious and inane in his "article", and then submits it to slashdot. He regularly does little more than quote sections of the article and supply obvious commentary...and watches the hit counts roll in.

There are two remarkable facts: one, that there isn't better content in the submission queue, and two: I don't think I've ever seen comments posted supporting him. Hilariously, on the rare occasion he does post, he's moderated down so fast, he must be on the level of the GNAA people in terms of Karma.

Since hits support Roland, I'd suggest slashdotters tag his stuff "boycottroland"

tag: pigpile (2, Informative)

cswiii (11061) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615037)

seen that one before too.

Re:tag: boycottroland (1)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616441)

Since hits support Roland, I'd suggest slashdotters tag his stuff "boycottroland"
Now if only slashcode would support the ability to filter out articles by their tags - seems to me to be an obvious feature to add, especially given how long the new tagging system has been kicking around.

Re:tag: boycottroland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18617977)

he's moderated down so fast, he must be on the level of the GNAA people in terms of Karma

Why not look at his user profile and see the truth?

http://slashdot.org/~Roland%20Piquepaille [slashdot.org]

Poor Roland! ;-)

Re:tag: boycottroland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18618161)

Dumbass, that is a troll imposter. This [slashdot.org] is the actual account that belongs to Roland, as you can tell by its presence on this list [slashdot.org] as one of the top submitters.

Re:tag: boycottroland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18618543)

P.S. The submitter's name seems familiar. Where have I heard it before?

Roland submits dozens upon dozens of stories to Slashdot. "Vacuous" is pretty accurate ....

There are two remarkable facts: one, that there isn't better content in the submission queue, and two: I don't think I've ever seen comments posted supporting him.


Obviously posting submissions by Roland is a form of viral marketing for Slashdot designed to up its hit counters.

Personally, I think the idea is possible, but with today's AI it would probably require a very large underground computer, buried somewhere beneath the lunar surface to work at all. :-).

Re:tag: boycottroland (1)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18622645)

How about a FireFox extension or greasemonkey script to accomplish this? We're (well at least y'all) are the Open Source community. You're not helpless...

Prior Art (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614705)

See here [wikipedia.org] . Look at the very hot Sarah Strange.

tag: boycottroland (4, Interesting)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615117)

I've just added *.primidi.com (Roland's blog) to my adblock filters. I obviously never go there intentionally, but I've clicked on his links a few times without checking the submitter name. I suggest you all do the same.

Unfortunately, the ZDnet article linked is also written by our buddy Roland. I do wish that Slashdot would give me a way to avoid his crap (or, y'know, just not approve his stories). Either way, I think the boycottroland tag will help me in the future.

Re:tag: boycottroland (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 7 years ago | (#18624099)

Do the same adblock trick for zdnet. Does zdnet produce anything worth reading?

Re:tag: boycottroland (1)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 7 years ago | (#18624749)

Do the same adblock trick for zdnet. Does zdnet produce anything worth reading?

You make a good point. I just added blogs.zdnet.com to my blocking list, as it is entirely useless.

Re:Vacuous article (1)

BlindRobin (768267) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615229)

here ! here !br> no to mention that the content is rife with potential for abuse.

Re:Vacuous article (3, Insightful)

countach (534280) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615691)

It doesn't have to pass the Turing test, it merely has to be a useful teaching aid. A much lower standard to reach.

Re:Vacuous article (1)

Hextor_Freebish (971956) | more than 7 years ago | (#18621057)

My summary of the article summary:

the National Science Foundation (NSF), is to give us the possibility to interact
with these virtual representations as if they were the actual person (NSFW)

Yes that's all well and nice ... (2, Funny)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614555)

but can I frag them with a rail gun?

The real question is... (1)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615133)

Will they have sex with 13 year old horny students?

Only with fake 13 year old horny students (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615171)

I bet they'll have sex with Chris Hansen [msn.com] .

Sounds a bit like... (2, Insightful)

Jhon (241832) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614565)

True Names by Vernor Vinge to me...

Sounds like a dup from the 1980s (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614943)

I remember this kind of thing being RSN over 20 years ago. Sure we now have good fast global networking, but otherwise it does not look like we have any real progress towards this goal.

Ummmmm (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614581)

Will this be on the test?

I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614601)

How is this better than a real teacher?

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

cantre15 (1084375) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614737)

While I'm sure this software will be damn near worthless when it makes it's first apperance, I have to make the comment that I've seen many worthless professors and teachers. I've even had people in my classes correcting the professors because they were telling us the wrong facts out of the very reading they assigned to us the night before. This will be interesting to see how far it may actually go in the future. It may be somewhat of a solution to the problem professor like the ones I mentioned above, however I'm sure that many students will have a hard time adapting to virtual teachers because I'm assuing these "teachers" will be a talking text book. While this many be helpful to some students, it may be very harmful to those with different learning styles.

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615173)

I was thinking about a Porno... Too lazy to bring up the link. My Virtual Teacher ...

Anyways... uhmmm, does it run linux?

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615997)

Um, they aren't constantly whinning about low pay?

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616269)

Yeah... I meant better for students.

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

FMota91 (1050752) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616203)

It's not.

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18619541)

If you got hot for the teacher, you can download her in your home later....

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18619615)

You child can't have sex with a virtual teacher willingly or otherwise...

Re:I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask (1)

jpvlsmv (583001) | more than 7 years ago | (#18622441)

How will this be better?

It will be able to say "You have your answer, slashdot user, I suggest you act on it" in a condescending tone, like any good ascended-ancient-posing-as-a-hologram should be able to do.

--Joe

Good idea (2, Funny)

Kohath (38547) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614609)

It will never be able to be used to help in public schools because it doesn't pay union dues.

Great (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614625)

Another Roland Piquepaille article...Thanks.

A bit inaccurate.... (4, Insightful)

qw0ntum (831414) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614635)

Ronald left out the part about the system being powered by cold fusion! Seriously, is it realistic to expect researchers to figure out how to digitize someone's entire personality and knowledge in less than a year?


Allergies are blocking my nose, but I can still smell the stench of sensationalism with this one.

Cold Fusion!? (1)

Peter Trepan (572016) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616381)

Ronald left out the part about the system being powered by cold fusion!

Shame on this research lab. What's wrong with Perl, Python, and PHP?

Re:A bit inaccurate.... (1)

VON-MAN (621853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18617555)

"digitize someone's entire personality and knowledge in less than a year"

Oh, good catch! Of course both F* articles don't even contain the words "personality" or "entire" or anything close to that, but I'd mod you up if could (this is Roland of course).

Never Send A Machine To Do A Man's Job (4, Insightful)

vivaoporto (1064484) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614637)

I doubt we will see any meaningful result soon on this field. First because AI is not at this advanced point yet (in order to provide improvisation and interactivity), and the use of pre-recorded images and sounds cannot cope with the ingenuity and the unpredictability of the students. Second because human beings, although very sympathetic to the idea of talking heads (just look at clippy), in the long run get bored of it.

On the other side, I already had a couple of teachers that were completely inept to their jobs, following scripts just like a computer program with pre-recorded footage would. But computers are very unlikely to come even near to advantages a real good teacher can provide.

Re:Never Send A Machine To Do A Man's Job (1)

Chris whatever (980992) | more than 7 years ago | (#18620845)

"First because AI is not at this advanced point yet"

They only have to use those clones on the moon and send a ship out there with 5 people with secret agendas but with the goal to create A.I.

It works i tell, i read about it....

Pr0n! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614663)

While the standard system will be sponsored by the NSF, the pr0n edition will be sponsored by the Not Safe For Work foundation (NSFW.........f).

Just when we are talking about powerpoint (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614713)

This comes along as an even bigger waste of time for presentations.

Ask Jeeves - been there, done that, failed (2, Interesting)

blitz487 (606553) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614811)

"Ask Jeeves" tried to do this and failed miserably. What hope does this have? Researchers still cannot even write acceptable language translation software, and this would be far beyond that.

Such a waste (0, Offtopic)

snowleopard10101 (964540) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614853)

Okay people, move along, there's nothing to see here!

There's a problem with this. (3, Funny)

jeevesbond (1066726) | more than 7 years ago | (#18614895)

The problem is as soon as the teacher says anything like: 'Now class, I'd like you to help me do this...' WAAAJAANNAAA!!! Everyone gets a massive fine from Amazon for infringing their 'Humans Assisting Computers [slashdot.org] ' patent.

I wonder if Amazon will use special lawyer avatars to hand out the court summons?

Bogus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18614985)

I read the article... I can see how they'll get talking heads with the motion capture. Every other aspect of this program, though, is a long way off. I have never heard a realistic computer voice, and AI is still a joke.

Virtual whatnow? (1)

GFree (853379) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615009)

Virtual representations eh?

About as useful as a virtual avatar for a search engine: http://www.msdewey.com/ [msdewey.com]

Bitch never gives me what I want though!

Automated post: FA void of anything new or useful (3, Informative)

viking80 (697716) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615049)

This is an automated comment generated by a grease monkey script. If you agree that this is posted by a blog whore, or if you do not want to read any future articles with no useful or new content, you can gray out all Roland Piquepaille articles with this script:

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5735/ [userscripts.org]

Enjoy!

The part that automatically posts this information is not included.

Re:Automated post: FA void of anything new or usef (1)

Ant P. (974313) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616185)

Hmm, it took me a while to figure out your post was referencing itself with all this talk of scripting and automation.

Yes, roland really is that predictable and monotonous. Until a while ago you could spot his/its posts solely based on the link text "Read more" always present in them.

Quite frankly I think submissions linking to zdnet should be discarded in much the same way they're written - automatically.

MOD PARENT UP! Her/his script is very useful! (1)

YA_Python_dev (885173) | more than 7 years ago | (#18618435)

The parent links to a Greasemonkey user script that works very well to "gray-out" Roland slashvertisements on slashdot.

this is only half the battle (1)

bitt3n (941736) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615057)

Sure virtual teachers are great, but what will really make this complete is virtual students. Only then can we have a fully automated educational system that can operate at maximum capacity with minimum taxpayer expense. Of course, it will still be necessary to maintain colleges as fronts for basketball and football programs. This is, however, hardly without precedent.

OK, so virtual teacher, not virtual student. (2, Funny)

Runefox (905204) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615061)

How does Virtual Teacher discipline Non-Virtual Ritalin-Required Student? Shock buzzer? Stern language? Complete room lockdown with titanium sheeting? Lasers? How does Virtual Teacher respond to vulgarities? Slang?

"Yo', homes, teach me sum alg'braw 'n' shiz so I be up on da fo'-one-one and tut' me sum ladayz, fo'shizzaw muh nizza, biznatch."
"Please repeat query."
"Yo, man, dis shit is whack."
"Please repeat query."
"What da fuck."
"Please refrain from using profanity."
"Hey, fuck you, man."
"LOCK DOWN IN PROGRESS."
*CLANG CLANG CLANG*
"Cleansing speech orifice with Javex. Please wait..."

April Fools' Day (1)

NJVil (154697) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615071)

was a couple of days ago.

Well, at least... (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615099)

we can be reasonably sure that a virtual teacher won't virtually molest their wards.

LK

Re:Well, at least... (1)

Shaltenn (1031884) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615721)

And the few that do can be put to work in other industries instead of being thrown in jail!

Fine, so long as ... (2, Funny)

PPH (736903) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615115)

... they have a Mary K. Letourneau avatar available.

This remind you of the EMH from Voyager (1)

Spikeles (972972) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615165)

Sounds just like it, a virtual avatar that is basically an expert system designed around the memories of a real person. "Would you like an anagelsic cream for that?"

This remind you of the ECC from "Were's my order"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615249)

It would be perfect in the customer service role.

Re:This remind you of the EMH from Voyager (1)

joystickgenie (913297) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616275)

As long as they have Quark teach math. He was always so good with numbers.

Indian accent (1)

biocute (936687) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615191)

They will use artificial intelligence and natural language processing software to enable us to interact with these avatars

Until students start complaining of this Indian accent, would researchers admit that this AI is actually backed by real humans, and it's very cost effective.

Improvement? (1)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 7 years ago | (#18615195)

This reminds me of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, which we had a copy of back in the Win 3.1 days. At the time, we didn't have Internet access, and even if we had, forget about video, audio, or anything more complicated than HTML with a GIF image or two. So the encyclopedia on CD-ROM seemed so futuristic. Not only could you read the article, but there were embedded sounds and videos, and I seem to recall that in many areas of the encyclopedia, there were explanations by Patrick Stewart, who acted as a sort of teacher or host, like you would have in a documentary.

The idea of a virtual teacher who could deliver vast amounts of information from an online database over the Internet and do so in a humanlike way, is very cool.

Virtual teacher!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615349)

Why was I thinking about porn???

An easier return (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18615421)

Ok, I don't actually know that this would be an easier accomplishment, but as a programmer I think it really ought to be. Lets throw some research dollars at making teachers who don't frustrate kids with their inhumanity before we try to build robots that solve the same problem. "Here's a worksheet kids, make sure you do all the problems right so that you can be ready for the scantron... err I mean midterm."

I mean yeah, I've not met a teacher with a speech synthesis problem (what I presume the article was largely about :P), but I've met less than a handfull of teachers who even bother to proofread the assignments they photocopy and hand out... we've got robots already, they're just made out of flesh. Lets work on changing the educational system to encourage teachers that encourage thinking, rather than encouraging teachers that function according to exact "programs".

reminds me of (1)

drfrog (145882) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616427)

martian timeslip
by philip k dick

Re:reminds me of (1)

Shamanarchy (1054298) | more than 7 years ago | (#18617243)

The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson

Is this another case of science and technology striving to achieve a vision that was dreamed of by a Sci Fi author?

Which reminds me, has anyone yet created the photoanalysis device that Dekkard uses in Bladerunner? My take on this was that the software was using some sort of super-resolution image processing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-resolution/ [wikipedia.org]

I was interested to see an article a while ago where a developer from Linden Labs said that Snowcrash, another Neal Stephenson book, was a major inspiration for Second Life. (Was either here on Slashdot, or over on BoingBoing, or both)

Re:reminds me of (1)

VON-MAN (621853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18617629)

"Which reminds me, has anyone yet created the photoanalysis device that Dekkard uses in Bladerunner?"

Well, it is just the movie of the story, and Philip K. Dick really wasn't interested in technology. But, to me that machine was some holographic device. I distinctly remember Dekkard doing more than just zoom-in, so you need probably more that just a 2D image.

FYP (1)

linux_geek_germany (1079711) | more than 7 years ago | (#18616929)

We should see flying penises at the beginning of 2008 -- if the researchers succeed.

Okay then. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18617599)

You have your answer, Daniel Jackson. :p

Inevitable. (1)

crhylove (205956) | more than 7 years ago | (#18618033)

Whether this article has anything cogent and relevant to say or not, this technology is inevitable. Eventually an instantly cataloged database of speeches on any topic given by the expert in that field at that time will be available for anyone to view, complete with annotated footnotes from the other experts in the field up to today. I think 2008 is a little soon to have a fully fleshed out version, somehow tied to Wikipedia and similar sources, but I can definitely see this happening to some extent by then.

Really, if I could have a digitally rendered avatar read me information I ask it by instant voice communication, that would be ultimately more thorough and better, and you can expect that to be rather seamless one of these days.

rhY

This is no good for learning (2, Interesting)

PermanentMarker (916408) | more than 7 years ago | (#18618303)

I don't believe this would benefit learning.

A real teacher interacts with his students.
He notices their behaviour and based on that he adepts his lessons.
Think of it would a digital teacher help teenagers learn (adults are much the same).

More likely computer screen colors fancy graphics will distract away from what has to be learned. Remember we probaply all had tried that web advising monkey advater that could speak and would help you search the web. Nice idea but it mainly distracts. And computers dont understand people.

If you want to learn and want to learn.
You want to do it in quikest possibble way (as learning is a boring time eating proces).
You need the get facts inside your head, you could only do that optimal in environments with minimal distraction. while your mind is 'fresh' like in the morning (not tired).
Then simply the best method is "Read a book", and make some notitions of what you read.
There realy isn't anything better then that for theoretical knowledge.

If you need practicle knowledge then the best way is do it, i can talk about sculptures, but if you would like to know what it takes to make it, you need to do it.

And so far all those modern computerized les methods, i have to say crap!

(as a teacher i've often studied the way how people learn)

Re:This is no good for learning (1)

GeekGrrl75 (1015871) | more than 7 years ago | (#18633189)

"...based on that he adepts his lessons"
"...probaply all had tried that web advising monkey advater"
"...to do it in quikest possibble way"
"...make some notitions of what you read"
"...realy isn't anything better"
"...you need practicle knowledge"

Hmm. I can see all of that "real teaching" has worked for you.

GeekGrrl

Re:This is no good for learning (1)

PermanentMarker (916408) | more than 7 years ago | (#18635077)

you try dutch, (without a spell check).

Re:This is no good for learning (1)

GeekGrrl75 (1015871) | more than 7 years ago | (#18637261)

;) point taken. i'm a technology in education whore, so my back gets up when pepole comment that my PhD is useless. geekgrrl

Re:This is no good for learning (1)

GeekGrrl75 (1015871) | more than 7 years ago | (#18637331)

and look -- I spelled "people" wrong.

*gets off her high horse and slinks away*

geekgrrl

sounds like a movie... (1)

regexes (1043434) | more than 7 years ago | (#18618593)

Why does this remind me of the avatar librarian from Time Machine [imdb.com] ?

Keep your fucking anti-Roland politics off home pg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18619087)

God damnit, if you want to lose readers keep letting your fucking childish in-fighting spill onto your home page. Come on - this is one of the biggest geek news sites in existence. Act like professionals, even if it's clear that you are not.

Shut up, Roland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18619669)

Take your splogging to another website, jackass.

Shut up, Randy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18620815)

- Donny Baker

Cool! A Minnie Driver/Anne Hathaway love scene. (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 7 years ago | (#18621603)

Lessee now...

- Fleshlike rubber, check

- Realistic, load-balanced, dynamic walking, check

- Natural language parsing, check

- Language understanding and response, check

It's all coming together finally. Soon, the "AI" movie scene of "take off your clothes" will become a reality! One may evolve one's traits out of society, but one'll have a hell of a fun time doing so.

William Gibson called... (1)

HaveNoMouth (556104) | more than 7 years ago | (#18622373)

...and he wants his idea back.

Great idea, but there can be problems. Not just technically, but morally and ethically. These guys should read Neuromancer [wikipedia.org] and find out how Dixie Flatline felt about existing in a ROM chip after he was dead.

Oblig. Tag: 'ohnoitsroland' (1)

siglercm (6059) | more than 7 years ago | (#18622715)

Well, this time the /. editor didn't redact Roland's ZDNet blog link whorage. Please tag as 'ohnoitsroland'. Thanks for taking the time.
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