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241 comments

Mine's still working (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668159)

My 2004 4th generation ipod is still working, with good battery life etc. Though I did have to do the business-card trick to fix the hard drive.

100 Million iPods Singing: +1, Helpful (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668341)

Detain, military tribunals, conviction, and sentencing for the world's largest crime syndicate [whitehouse.org] .

Of course, most the U.S. population is brain dead.

Thanks for your support.

Patriotically,
Kilgore Trout, C.E.O.

Re:100 Million iPods Singing: +1, Helpful (-1, Troll)

Heembo (916647) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668745)

iPods still suck with little innovation as of late. Generic 10$ flash mp3 players from walmart so the same damn thing. So it goes.....

Huh? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668659)

I find it somewhat hard to believe...
...which makes me believe the number may be more accurate.

Ummmmm... what? How the fuck do you make these two statements about the same fucking number/article?

For the sake of posterity... (0, Redundant)

Steve--Balllmer (1070854) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668167)

"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame"

Obligatory. (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668199)

"No wireless. More space than a Zune. Lame."
- CmdrBallmer

640,000 Zunes is enough (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668857)

Will MS make the magic number?

Re:Obligatory. (3, Funny)

RedElf (249078) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668867)

To summarize the article: "The sheeple are consuming!"

Slow news day.

Forgotten tagline... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18669017)

"Microsoft announces Zune is rapidly approaching fifteen units sold." /Stolen joke //Yeah, I bet you can guess where I stole it from.

Comma chameleon, come and go, come and go (1, Troll)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668205)

I personally, find it funny, how some people, tend to abuse commas. What is so hard, to understand? This has to be one of the worst headlines ever. It took me 4 times reading it before I started to think I understood what the author was getting at.

To keep on-topic, my 3G 15GB iPod still works just fine. The battery doesn't last the 8 or so hours it used to (more like 6 now), but it still runs like a champ.

Re:Comma chameleon, come and go, come and go (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668277)

I doubt very many iPod failures are the result of being poorly manufactured, I'm willing to bet 95% of dead iPods are the result of hard-drive failures caused by users repeatedly dropping them.

Re:Comma chameleon, come and go, come and go (4, Funny)

yada21 (1042762) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668363)

Cammas have, another use, to indicate, a pause. You are, William Shatner, AICMFP.

Re:Comma chameleon, come and go, come and go (3, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668383)

I personally, find it funny, how some people, tend to abuse commas.
It's a common (NPI) source of comedy:

Rimmer: After intensive investigation, comma, of the markings on the alien pod, comma, it has become clear, comma, to me, comma, that we are dealing, comma, with a species of awesome intellect, colon.
Holly: Good. Perhaps they might be able to give you a hand with your punctuation.
Rimmer: Shut up.
-- 1x04 "Waiting for God"

Re:Comma chameleon, come and go, come and go (2, Funny)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668455)

At least the submitter didn't write "I AM A FISH" five hundred times.

Comma problems? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668551)

There was a single comma in the entire summary. It wasn't really used correctly, but it really shouldn't have taken you four tries to understand.

Well, now I know how to obfusticate any sensitive documentation. Just insert commas where they don't belong and a certain proportion of slashdot readers will waste valuable brain cycles attempting to decipher it. Whereas my loyal minions, having simpler brains, will ignore any and all punctuation marks and will implement my open source doomsday devices first.

iPod and Jelly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668209)

iPod and Dvorak go together like peanut butter and jelly.......

But What About... (1)

shoma-san (739914) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668211)

A Million Man (Woman) Ipod March on Washington DC to show some solidarity?

Re:But What About... (0, Troll)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668313)

you just made me thing.. of the people trying to "be diffrent"

100 million "diffrent"

Re:But What About... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668319)

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all iPods are created equal."

I have a dream that my iPods will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their case but by the content of their hard drive.

Let music ring.

Re:But What About... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668517)

Why? Are people with IPods being descriminated against? Are people being denied fair and equal treatment if they subscribe to ITunes?

Or are you naive enough to think that having an IPod has -any- correlation to a person's politics?

Lame. (4, Funny)

cgrayson (22160) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668227)

No wireless. Less space than 100 million nomads. Lame.

Re:Lame. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668441)

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. I am a clueless dumbass who spews random garbage out of my pie hole on a much too frequent basis and deserve to be kicked in the fucking balls for missing the mark so wildly and being such a spectacular failure.

What did Hemos say when CmdrTaco entered? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668821)

Oooooooh, I feel your man-bone inside me!!! Fuck me, CmdrTaco, fuck me hard!

Re:Lame. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668849)

Hello, I'm a NOMAD. Hello, I'm an iPod

"Sold" probably includes them all (5, Interesting)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668229)

Generally the management of these numbers is designed to make sales numbers look good. There is nothing stopping warantee replacement units being reflected as a zero-dollar sale, so long as you don't mess with the actual revenue numbers.

Even if there's a 10% warantee number, that still makes for 90M-or-so real sales. That is not too suprising considering how iconic the ipod is and how much Apple have invested in creating that image.

I wonder what Apple's advertising budget is for ipod? It probably gets to be somewhere around a buck per unit.

Re:"Sold" probably includes them all (2, Insightful)

RedElf (249078) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668799)

Status symbols only serve the purpose of moving money from the working class back to the wealthy.

Sooo (3, Insightful)

Adambomb (118938) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668233)

"I find it somewhat hard to believe but this story over at PC world, indicates that the ipod has sold over 100 million units. It also asks how many are broken and replaced which makes me believe the number may be more accurate."
A) More accurate than what?

B) Hard to believe? The company is making a statement of fact flat out, and just not including the caveats such as replacement or upgrade purchases.

Slow. News. Day.

Oh, and the actual article (4, Informative)

Adambomb (118938) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668285)

As opposed to reading statements of the obvious, just absorb the details yourself and draw your own conclusions from Apple's Press Release [apple.com] .

Re:Sooo (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668329)

Not hard to believe at all. considering the iPod was released in 2001, has a massive targeted audience (college kids is just a stereotype). Even the playstation 2 sold over 115 million units, it was only released the previous year, and it has a much smaller target audience.

Re:Sooo (2, Informative)

George Rypysc 3 (917245) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668777)

I second that; it's a statement of fact from a publicly traded company. It's impressive, but predictable given their previously published numbers showing they had sold 88.7 million total at the end of last year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod_sales.svg [wikipedia.org]

A bit of perspective (5, Interesting)

remove office (871398) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668261)

Let's put this in perspective. Not all of these buyers were American, and many of them have probably owned more than one iPod, but the population of the United States is slightly over 300 million. And Apple has apparently sold 100 million.

A bit more (1)

DogDude (805747) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668687)

These are sales numbers to the retailers and distributors. I wouldn't think that it would be outrageous to think that there are 50+ million iPods sitting on store shelves and in warehouses right now. "Sales" numbers coming from manufacturers are always very, very generous.

Re:A bit more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668835)

Very few industries have that amount of product in their supply chain now days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_In_Time_(busines s) [wikipedia.org]

Re:A bit of perspective (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668813)

That's true.

I've been gifted a Shuffle, and I've gifted iPod nanos to two people. And I'd bought a regular iPod which I later sold.

(I'm not so much into the music 24/7 thing; I like keeping my ears open, and the Shuffle was useful because it was simple, durable and also doubled as a USB drive. Regular iPods and the Nano have always seemed a tad flimsy to me.)

So, technically, I purchased 4 iPods according to Apple. There you go, skewing of stats, right there.

Re:A bit of perspective (4, Insightful)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668927)

I've been gifted a Shuffle, and I've gifted iPod nanos to two people. And I'd bought a regular iPod which I later sold.

So, technically, I purchased 4 iPods according to Apple. There you go, skewing of stats, right there.

Huh? No, according to Apple, based on what you've said, you've purchased 3 (someone else purchased one and gifted it to you, but there's no way they'd know that it ended up in your hands, so by their count, you've only purchased three, because in fact, you've only purchased three). And how does the fact that you purchased three iPods skew the stats about the number of iPods sold? You purchased three, they count that has having sold three. 3 != 3?

The value of good user interface design... (4, Interesting)

The Media Mechanic (1084283) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668263)

In my opinion the reason the iPod succeeded in the marketplace is the tight integration of hardware and software... the whole system just works. You don't have to worry about, missing DLLs, bad firmware that causes the interface to become unresponsive, or other strange errors that manifest themselves on competing digital music players. I used to have a no-brand hard disk based player that would cause a horrible screeching noise in the earphones whenever the disk spun up to access the next chunk of music data. Never had this problem on my iPod. Also, for example, when you pull your headphone plug out of the earphone jack, my iPod automatically goes into Pause mode. They obviously put a sensor on the earphone jack that detects the presence of something plugged in, and tied that into the firmware... this provides a seamless intuitive interface to the end-use. This is why they have sold 100 million players, and profited from it, and rightly so. Highly paid and well motivated creative engineers will always trounce cheap, carelessly designed and manufactured, knock-offs.

I Don't Love You (4, Funny)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668427)

I used to have a no-brand hard disk based player that would cause a horrible screeching noise in the earphones whenever the disk spun up.
The company returned this guy's iPod with the following message: "Not faulty. Supposed 'horrible screeching noise' turned out to be My Chemical Romance's latest single."

Re:The value of good user interface design... (4, Insightful)

JohnnyComeLately (725958) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668547)

Yeppers. I had a Toshiba GigABeat and ended up taking it back to get the 80Gb Video. It just works well. No lock into their download format or archaic DRM. Accessories are plentiful (the main reason I switched back...I had a Nano before) and function is intuitive. Like you mention, I don't even need to take it out of my pocket to "pause" it when I am done riding/running/whatever and don't want the battery to drain from leaving it on by accident.

People love to naysay the dominant market player, which is ironically the one getting trounced in the OS realm. I really do hope their new agreement for higher quality music takes off. I'm going to soon buy a permanent dock to dock my iPod with my high-end home audio system. So the new format will be greatly appreciated and I don't mind paying a few extra $$ for a high-def quality rip of Dark Side of the Moon.

Re:The value of good user interface design... (4, Insightful)

Skippy_kangaroo (850507) | more than 7 years ago | (#18669063)

>and I don't mind paying a few extra $$ for a high-def quality rip of Dark Side of the Moon

Why dont you pay $10 for the CD and make a lossless rip of it using, say, Apple Lossless for use on your stereo? And then have a 192kbps VBR AAC rip for your iPod when its on the go and you care about quantity rather than too much quality? All without DRM.

Re:The value of good user interface design... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668599)

Just works, except dealing with all the crap that is itunes/quicktime wanting to be the default player for everything and the ipod/quicktime services etc etc.

Re:The value of good user interface design... (-1, Troll)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668743)

>the reason the iPod succeeded in the marketplace is the tight integration of hardware and software

AKA vendor lock-in. All hail the Apple monoculture!

Re:The value of good user interface design... (3, Interesting)

Ziwcam (766621) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668943)

the reason the iPod succeeded in the marketplace is the tight integration of hardware and software

AKA vendor lock-in. All hail the Apple monoculture!

What you call a "vendor lock-in" I call "It just works(TM)".

Also, at the risk of starting a flame war, dare I mention that Windows is the greatest lock-in of all? Business use it because initial cost is cheap, thus causing many home users to be "required" to buy a windows machine so they can work at home.

I see it almost daily. Somebody wants to buy a computer, and they tell me they've always loved the Macintosh (and many were former Mac owners) but that they had to leave the platform so that they could work at home. Breaks my heart every time.

(Disclosure: I work at an Apple retail store)

Re:The value of good user interface design... (4, Informative)

joek1010 (980753) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668901)

"bad firmware"

That's not quite true. http://www.1418hell.com/ [1418hell.com] (Now offline due to bandwidth restrictions). Here's the apple docs on it (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30 4508). Switching to iTunes 7 caused major problems for a lot of people (me included). For about 2 weeks I basically had a bricked iPod; I couldn't restore because there were major problems with the iTunes 7 and its new integrated iPod management.

I've also had major problems with Apple Firmware updates on my 60 gb 5G ipod. After updating firmware, I regularly find that Apple has dropped support for a specific video resolution or bit rate (the iPod is ridiculously temperamental with video support), which means half of the videos on my iPod don't work.

Now I don't ever upgrade my firmware; I'm really not missing out on much I guess.

Re:The value of good user interface design... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668919)

Good for Apple at being marketing titans and all that, but does anyone else beside me NOT like the iPod touch-wheel? It feels clumsy to do fine adjustments because of a lack of tactile feedback.

Why so hard to believe? (3, Insightful)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668271)

Even with a failure rate of 10% (which is extraordinary), that is still 90m iPods sold.

Apple has done extraordinarily well here with the iPod and is poised to shape the future of digital downloads (software and media) with their iTunes Store.

Re:Why so hard to believe? (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668469)

I think the 1st generation ipod probably hit 50% failure rate legitimately. Every person I know with a 1st-gen ipod has basically had their batteries died by the 2nd year. Including myself.

What kind of math is that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668511)

Whatever the failure rate, that is still 100M iPods *sold*. Just like if I throw 100 eggs and 99% of them break, that is still 100 eggs "thrown".

Re:What kind of math is that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18669005)

> Whatever the failure rate, that is still 100M iPods *sold*. Just like if I throw 100 eggs and 99% of them break, that is still 100 eggs "thrown".

MMMmmmm. Eeggggzzzz. *drool*

Re:Why so hard to believe? (1)

MaximvsG (611212) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668699)

I don't find this hard to believe at all. I have 4 brothers, 3 of them have iPods including myself. None of them are technically savvy at all, and have no problems using them (loading songs, and vids, etc). They really are great little devices, easy to use.

Probably at least 5M units broken... (3, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668273)

If we assume a failure rate of 5%...

Of course, the real question is whether or not the proportion of lost/broken/damaged/stolen/etc iPods is similar to other devices. After all, do iPods really have a higher failure rate, or is it because there's more of them, you hear more about them?

(And before you start blaming the non-replacable battery - there are few devices other than cellphones, cameras and laptops where having a replacable battery actually is useful - it's likely by the time you need a replacement, the battery isn't even made anymore... Can you get replacement Li-Ion batteries for the many HPaq PDAs out there other than the current model/phone models? Or the multitude of 'superior' mp3 players of at least a couple years vintage?)

Re:Probably at least 5M units broken... (1)

mark3748 (1002268) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668403)

Can you get replacement Li-Ion batteries for the many HPaq PDAs out there other than the current model/phone models?
HP/Compaq iPaq batteries are very easy to get ahold of for even the 1st generation. You can get them directly from HP or even battery stores like Batteries Plus and the like.

I had to get one for my H3800. They are pretty useless with CE, but put Linux on one and it'll bring new life to it.

Re:Probably at least 5M units broken... (1)

homer_ca (144738) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668481)

Any kind of portable electronics have a pretty high rate of loss, theft and accidental damage. iPods probably have a higher rate of theft than, say, mobile phones because they're easily transferrable and can't be disabled by the network. Compared to other brand MP3 players, they're a bigger theft target because of their popularity.

Re:Probably at least 5M units broken... (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668693)

Can you get replacement Li-Ion batteries for the many HPaq PDAs out there other than the current model/phone models? Or the multitude of 'superior' mp3 players of at least a couple years vintage?

My superior MP3 player, the iRiver H320, has an internal battery. Luckily, it happens to be the same size as the batteries from the 1st and 2nd generation iPods, so it's easy and cheap to get a replacement. It even uses the same electrical connector (though the pins have to be swapped).

With all the different iPod generations and models, it's pretty easy to find a Li-ion battery in a size that'll fit any portable device.

Their questions are totally irrelevant... (3, Insightful)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668289)

Apple said they sold 100 million iPods. What difference does it make how many were replacement iPods for broken or stolen units? If anything, that would only make the case that much stronger for the popularity of the iPod: People were willing to buy another one to replace a broken or stolen one. What does he mean when he says "how many are sitting in drawers"? What does that have to do with anything? I'm sure any portable music player would be happy if they sold 10% as many and they were all sitting in drawers. This entire article is a troll...

Re:Their questions are totally irrelevant... (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668651)

Not to mention that you could say the exact same thing about a Walkman (the tape-and-radio kind). I can't tell you how many Walkmans (Walkmen?) I went through as a kid. And I'll tell you that for all the crap Apple gets for batteries, it's still cheaper to pay someone $25 to change out the rechargeable every 2 years than to constantly feed it AA's like my old Walkman :)

Note To Apple: Dump The Mac (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668293)

Obviously after so many years on the market and sales having fallen back down to the 3 percent range desktop computers is not your area of competence.

Yes, the marketing and other typography is superb.
Yes, the case designs are very sleek.
Yes, the UI widgets have a polish and overall aesthetic that embarrasses Windows and Linux desktops.

Stop wasting your time. Sell off the good parts of OS X to IBM or some other computing company that might be able to do something useful with them...

and go focus on digital media hardware and software. Obviously you've found your calling.

Re:Note To Apple: Dump The Mac (1)

644bd346996 (1012333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668459)

If Apple hadn't released OS X, where would the OS market be now? There's no contesting that most of Vista's user-visible additions (Aero, etc.) are Microsoft's direct response to competition from OS X. Just like IE7 is a direct result of Firefox's success. Apple is also almost single-handedly responsible for the fact that computers are no longer beige. Competition is good, and Apple makes a profit on their Macs. Trolls like you seem to forget that profit, not world domination, is the goal of capitalism. There is no economic reason for Apple to abandon the Mac market.

Also, if Apple sold off the "good bits" of OS X, they would be re-incarnated into a less polished product[s] without the backwards compatibility, and then they would wither and die.

Why dump something growing 30% a year? (2, Interesting)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668485)

It would be more prudent for Microsoft to dump the XBox, the Zune, Live Search, and Zune Marketplace before Apple should dump the Mac.

Especially seeing how a little less than half of their profits each year stem from the Mac. Dumping the Mac would almost automatically require them to dump half their workforce, more or less.

And counting (1)

Jinjuku (762364) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668317)

100 million sold is 100 million sold. Doesn't matter if some are replacements or not. When my current car dies (160K and counting :-) I will go get another. The manufacturer gets to chalk up yet another sale. Doesn't matter that I purchased off of them before. A sale is a sale is a sale.

Hmm (5, Interesting)

chebucto (992517) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668331)

1E8 x 2E10 bytes (avg) = 2E18 bytes = 2 exabytes

1 song = 4E6 bytes

Total songs = 2E18 bytes / 4E6 bytes = 5E11 songs

1 song via ITMS = $1

Total cost to fill all ipods = 500 000 000 000 dollars

GDP of New Zealand = 108 520 000 000

Thus, it would take 5E11/1.08E11 = 4.62 years worth of New Zealand's national product to fill all ipods with music.

Wow! That is a lot of music!

Re:Hmm (3, Funny)

tzhuge (1031302) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668393)

This is what the RIAA will demand from world leaders after they have completed their dooms-day device, the DRMStar. Sources claim (possibly /. sources) liquid magma and freaking sharks with lasers strapped to their heads are involved.

Re:Hmm (1)

kinglink (195330) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668615)

"The ability to destroy the music industry is insignificant next to power of the force"

Re:Hmm (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668447)

You forgot one number. Odds of all iPods being filled with music purchased on-line, zero. If Apple iTunes actually sold that much music they wouldn't add one zero to the music sales numbers they'd add two. Obvious few iPods are filled with music but it does indicate the real size of the download community especially when a lot of people would like have a bigger iPod. If the average was just 10% full there's still a big download community. If the number is 50% then it's massive. The other issue is we're just talking iPods. There are other devices and some like me don't own any. On line purchases are dwarfed by over all music downloads.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668541)

no, it'll take a lot less time than that... remember that there's sales tax

Re:Hmm (1)

lelitsch (31136) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668563)

> Total cost to fill all ipods = 500 000 000 000 dollars

Total songs sold through the iTunes store = 2 500 000 000
Dollar amount the RIAA is trying to extort = 497 525 000 000 dollars

Find it hard to believe? (2, Insightful)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668377)

As a publicly-traded company, it would be pretty hard to fudge these numbers and get away with it, but I guess anything is possible.

The guy that wrote the article sounds extremely bitter... did he design the Zune or something? Waaa waaa how many of those replaced old ipods or were stolen? WHO CARES? The press release is for ipods sold, not ipods currently in use. 100 million sold is amazing, no matter how you slice it.

Re:Find it hard to believe? (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668527)

As a publicly-traded company, it would be pretty hard to fudge these numbers and get away with it, but I guess anything is possible.

You think? [com.com]

Re:Find it hard to believe? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668757)

"and get away with it"

Not sure why it's so hard to believe. (4, Informative)

Americano (920576) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668401)

I find it somewhat hard to believe but this story over at PC world, indicates that the iPod has sold over 100 million units. It also asks how many are broken and replaced which makes me believe the number may be more accurate.
The press release doesn't say that there are 100 million units presently in use by 100 million people around the world today, now, right here. It says that they've moved 100 million ipods. Some percentage of that 100 million has surely been broken, been stolen, been lost, been destroyed, etc. Some percentage is probably sitting on a desktop somewhere and almost never gets used. But the total number sold apparently is over 100 million.

Anecdotally, I have gone through three ipods... a 3G which I carelessly dropped on concrete from about 5 feet, and a 5G which replaced the broken 3G, which I use every day. I was also given a nano as a gift, and I use that at the gym, so I don't have to worry about dropping the 5G. Looking around at the gym, I would also estimate 30% or so of the people in my line of sight at any time there are plugged into a nano or shuffle; In addition, ipods are a very common sight on desks during the day at work, too.

I don't think 100 million ipods sold to date is a particularly unbelievable number. If they told me there were 100 million ipods sold, and they're all still alive "in the wild," that would be pretty hard to swallow.

Re:Not sure why it's so hard to believe. (1)

kallisti777 (46059) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668533)

You made me stop and think with your anecdote. I am personally on iPod #1 (a mini that works fine), but I have purchased a hdd-based one as a gift to my girlfriend, a 30 GB video to replace it when it got dropped, and two Shuffles as gifts. That's one lower middle class guy, five iPods.

Methinks the Slashdot naysayers have forgotten about the Shuffle.

other iPod models (1)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668591)

Also note that the 100 million includes the $80 iPod Shuffle and the iPod Nano. It's not hard to believe people owning multiple iPod models, either because they received them as gifts or for different uses (Shuffle for going on a jog, high-capacity standard iPod for long drives etc.).

Re:Not sure why it's so hard to believe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668753)

Anedotally, I have two iPods. Both woth fine. I just wanted to upgrade so I could watch movies on long airplane flights and download all my photos while on vacation. If they upgrade the iPod to include more features I can use, then I'll have three.

Who gives a shit (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668405)

Really, Apple have sold a lot. Why would they lie, we know it is the most successful mp3 player on the planet, why must everything be nitpicked. In this case, its a huge conspiracy, Apple might not have sold a hundred million, they could be one or two off the mark. Shit they are still selling them now so any inaccuracies have been covered by today's sales. Talk about slow news day on the writers part. Apple puts out a fairly unremarkable press piece and somebody ponders whether they are telling the whole truth or not. Did anybody challenge SONY when they declared their sales figures for the Original Walkman? Yes, I'm a fanboy but I didn't give a shit in the first place, I saw the headline on macrumors.com and didn't bother to investigate any further because its a non event to me. Come back to me when Apple sell 100 million macs in a 5 year period then dispute those figures.

It doesn't matter how many were replaced. (2, Insightful)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668419)

The statistic is about "sold", so even if I replace my iPod every day, I put money out of my pocket and buy a new iPod.

Apple profits from selling the hardware, not from the active userbase, in fact, they benefit from smaller userbase (less loss/load on iTunes) that refreshes its hardware often.

Even if it was one single crazy guy, who bought 100 million iPods, Apple doesn't give a damn.

Re:It doesn't matter how many were replaced. (3, Funny)

darkshadow (102598) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668741)

Bill Gates could try buying all the iPods so people will be forced to by Zunes instead.

Re:It doesn't matter how many were replaced. (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668801)

>The statistic is about "sold", so even if I replace my iPod every day, I put money out of my pocket and buy a new iPod.

Not if they give you one for free or at large discount, which is what happens if you're to belive the fanboys.

Like Microsoft, Apple becomes a target... (1)

athloi (1075845) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668429)

When you're on top, everyone hates you. When you're not, misery loves company. And if you're in the middle, they'll simply take your stuff.

MciPod (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668453)

over 10 billion sold

Thanks China!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668467)

Maybe you can let the iPod makers leave the plant tonight as a reward.

That's an impressive feat (3, Interesting)

vivaoporto (1064484) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668499)

Taking in account that it took 20 years [tvhistory.tv] for televisions to sell about 70 millions sets on US (source [tvhistory.tv] . I don't have stats for radio and phone sets, but 100 million units is an impressive feat regardless of substitution pieces or upgrades.

100 iPods sold or created? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668531)

I have a 4G iPod which Apple replaced 5 times. Do all of them count?

I really do regret buying the iPod the thing crashes worse than windows back when windows was unreliable. The only reason I bought it was because I thought and still think the wheel design is genius. But what good is a dedicated mp3 player if it's so unreliable.

Re:100 iPods sold or created? (1)

HolyCrapSCOsux (700114) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668631)

"I have a 4G iPod which Apple replaced 5 times. Do all of them count?"

If you paid money for all 5 then yes. Warranty replacements are not sales.

As an aside, I had one glitch with my 4G Nano once. Other than that, flawless.

Re:100 iPods sold or created? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668837)

Yikes do you have bad luck. My first-generation died when it drowned, but I put a new hard drive in it and it came back to life - so I have a well-worn first-generation that has "survived" a drowning. You're like that lady in New York who survived the Macy's parade float knocking a lamp-post into her, only to have a Yankee pitcher fly a plane into her living room.

My shuffle did die after I yanked it hot from a PC, though...

Perspective (5, Insightful)

ObligatoryUserName (126027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668543)

Here's a comparison I put together from Wikipedia/Google.

Nintendo DS: 39.8 million (total sales)
Gameboy: 69 Million (total sales)
Gameboy Advance: 77 million (total sales)
iPod: 100 million (total sales)
Cellphones: 2,000 million (currently in use)

I think I have a better understanding of why they built the iPhone...

Re:Perspective (1)

umeshunni (37684) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668689)

True. But the comparision to cell phones is unfair since that includes every cellphone from every brand and model. I wonder if there's any other individual hardware product that has sold a larger number of units. I think the PS2 has over 110 million sold, but I'm not sure if any other brand has sold as many copies.

Re:Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668917)

and what about walkmans?

Re:Perspective (1)

Leontes (653331) | more than 7 years ago | (#18669001)

According to http://inventors.about.com/od/wstartinventions/a/W alkman.htm [about.com] : "By 1995, total production of Walkman units reached 150 million." That's from 1979-1995. From 2001-2007, just over the same time frame, Apple has sold double. That's pretty impressive, considering the incredibly popular nature of the Walkmen. I think I've only now just got what a phenomenon iPods have proven to be.

Sold. But to whom? (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668565)

I am pretty certain this number relates to how many iPods Apple has sold to retailers; not how many those retailers have sold to the public. Wal-Mart places an order for iPod and bam! There's another 100,000 units 'sold'. And are we talking about all iPods here? Some of those 1st gen Shuffles are practically given away by some retailers (i.e. all orders over $499 get a free iPod Shuffle!).

Re:Sold. But to whom? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668767)

And you think Wal-Mart is going to buy 100,000 units if they don't expect them to sell all of them within a few weeks?
 
Especially considering the life-cycle of the models and the desire for a lot of people to have the newest no store is going to buy units not to sell them as quickly as possible. Maintaining huge stocks of these kind of commodities is plain stupid.

Re:Sold. But to whom? (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668989)

Question is, is Apple counting their sales to Wal-Mart or the sales to the end-user? Or are they (gasp) counting both?

Re:Sold. But to whom? (1)

vivaoporto (1064484) | more than 7 years ago | (#18669031)

Yeah! Wake me up when the headlines read "100 million iPods ... in space! [slashdot.org] "

Why is everyone so surprised? (3, Insightful)

AgentX24 (797752) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668655)

Why is everyone shocked at the total of 100 million iPods sold and calling conspiracy over it? After all, the PS2 had over 115 million units shipped worldwide by December 2006 [wikipedia.org] . Do people not believe that figure?

Re:Why is everyone so surprised? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668887)

People are weird when it comes to something popular. People hate Duke basketball, Windows, and now the iPod. There's even a hybrid car backlash going on right now.

Importance of the other questions. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668705)

I can't beleive some of these apple fanbois

I've seen atleast five "Who cares about the other statistics about those Ipods, 100 million were sold"

It matters becuase if 95million don't work their market is gonna drop them, and it wont matter how many they sold they'll be dead and known as unreliable, expensive and uncool. All those things matter becuase Ipod itself is not a music player, it's an image, of the owner, of the company that makes it. You own an Ipod you have taste, you are cool. Apple are a cool company. Those other questions matter, because if Ipod were sold purely on that, they could just continue to be kool, but its not based on that, people want to have something that works, that does what they want. It's important becuase it gives us a look at what is NEW- hence it would be NEWS! This is not news because everyone knows Ipod is popular, 100million doesn't really give joe public, who doesn't have these figures at his fingers normally, anything to compare it to- so it isn't news, it doens't tell people something.

Re:Importance of the other questions. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18669025)

Required disclaimer: I'm not an apple fanboy and don't even own any music player yet.

Only in bitter dreams is there even the slimmest of chances that 95 million iPods do not work. Let's be real here: Apple did a fine job of making an accessible, easy-to-use, attractive portable music player that does a very respectable job of providing the features most users wanted. Good on them.

No need to denigrate them or their players simply because you dislike their "cool" image. Not all hot cheerleaders are mean.

My wife and I have 5 between us... (2, Interesting)

rthille (8526) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668725)


iPod - 40GB (3/4th gen?)
iPod Mini (1st gen)
iPod Nano (2nd gen)
iPod Shuffle (1st gen)
iPod Shuffle (2nd gen)

I've been tempted to get the 5.5gen iPod, but I think I'll wait for widescreen.

~~~100 million~~~ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668769)

I not only think the 100 million iPod figure is ridiculous, but also a huge exaggeration. No way could Apple sell that many in that short amount of time. This reminds me of how either Sirius or XM satellite radio claimed that had 6.9 million subscribers when really most of those, "subscribers" were actually satellite radio systems that were already installed inside brand new cars waiting to be sold. I think that Apple may have just put up this figure to encourage confidence in the company and possibly help sell their stock.

Slashdot editors need to get over their iPod hate (3, Insightful)

hattig (47930) | more than 7 years ago | (#18668817)

Nice, select the one negative article about this news. Well done. Lame.

Given that 80 million iPods have been sold in the last two years - wait, Apple said they had sold 10m in early 2005 - so 90 million iPods in the last two years, I'd guess that the vast majority of them are in use (i.e., they work and aren't under the sofa missing) still (even if they were stolen!).

My iPod nano is 20 months old and I use it all the time still.

I bet that over time less than 10 million iPods sold were due to a previous iPod breaking and being out of warranty. Probably less than 5 million. Likely less than 2 million. Apple will sell than many in a couple of weeks, so it's a rather pointless argument anyway.

Anyway, why doesn't this thinking apply to other manufacturers? Sony - 120m or so PS2s for example. Sold == Sold in anybody's book.

THiS FP FUOR GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18668957)

I've never seen lUck I''l find people playing can
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