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Chinese Govt Limits Kids to 3hrs of Online Gaming

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the thank-god-i'm-over-18 dept.

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1MC writes "The Chinese govt is requiring game houses to modify MMOG's to restrict under 18 users to 3 hours "productive" gameplay per day. This "anti-addiction" software must be in place within 4 months, with games not compliant by July 15 liable to be shut down in China. Net9, Shanda and NetEase will be moving to comply with the government regulations. Users will have to register with their real names and Chinese identity card numbers to be allowed access to the games."

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I disagree (5, Funny)

hahafaha (844574) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675383)

from the thank-god-i'm-over-18 dept.

I'd rather say, thank-god-i'm-not-in-china!

Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675549)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio, famed radio dinosaur Don Imus was found dead at his New York City home. There are few details about his death other than the obligatory groveling at the feet of race hustling poverty pimp Al Sharpton. Even if you did not enjoy his work, there is no denying his contribution to hard core gangsta rap. Truly an American icon!

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (-1, Flamebait)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675711)

Ok, this is slashdot, we're all computer nerds, and at least a small percentage of us have an education, why would we care about 'hard core gangsta rap'?

Of course, this is off topic, but really, rap is for idiots without jobs or a real culture. (I'm not racist, just pointing out that the entire culture is a self perpetuating cycle of self-inflicted poverty and crime.)

I'm well aware that I'll be flamebaited for this, but I speak my mind.

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675831)

I firmly agree with your ideas, sir. I, too, feel that we should destroy the nigger race, as they are inferior and should NOT be allowed to live. Thank you, and may your example shine forward to future generations of Aryan children.

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (0, Offtopic)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675957)

I do have black friends, and even a black girlfriend, which is why I said that I am not racist. Notice how I did not specifically say anything about gangsta rap being specifically black culture? I see just as many low class (grew up among them, actually) white kids getting into it.

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18676053)

Worst troll ever.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/ [blackpeopleloveus.com] , much?

Guns don't kill people, niggers kill people. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18676279)

If you have ever had someone tell you that guns cause crime, please read this article. When anti-gun people are confronted with a few facts, they shut up and get a look on their face like they just shit in their pants. It's funny. I've seen it happen. After reading this, you can do it to them, too.

I heard some twit on the radio a while ago trying to convince the listening audience that guns are the cause of all of the murder in America. Her opponent was arguing that violence in the media was the real cause of violence. I find this type of thing fascinating, because it is all pure and utter bullshit, and the American public falls for it every time. Two people who appear to be at opposite ends of the political spectrum ("left" versus "right") put up a 'fight" replete with interruptions, raised voices, name calling, etc.....The listeners get all riled up and call in vehemently supporting one side or the other. Of course, both of the debaters were intentionally misleading the audience by using "straw men," which are fake targets set up for people to expend their energy knocking down in order to prevent them from seeing the true picture. Guns cause shootings like airplanes cause hijackings. And while the media is a destructive influence, it cannot explain the crime rate. For example: One of the women on the radio debate I heard was using 2 cities (Windsor, Canada and Detroit, Michigan) to prove that guns cause crime. Her theory was that Detroit and Windsor are only a few miles apart and so the inhabitants of both cities had access to the exact same TV and radio shows, as well as the same cinema, and yet in 1999 there were 396 murders in Detroit while Windsor, being in Canada where there are no guns allowed, only had 8 homicides. Well, I decided to do a little research, and I found out that Detroit has a nigger population of 82% while Windsor is only 2% black. Wow, that is simply fucking amazing, I thought it was the guns that caused all of that murder. Well, let's not be hasty. Let's check out the theory scientifically. If it is guns that are the real cause of people getting shot and the only reason more people get shot in Detroit than in Windsor is because guns are legal and available in the U.S. but not in Canada, then we should assume that if guns were legal in Canada the same levels of shootings would occur. And we would also assume that if guns were outlawed in America, there would be almost no shootings here. So what about arson? I mean, they have matches in Canada don't they? Cigarette lighters are legal there? So there should be about the same number of intentionally set fires in both cities right? Nope. In Detroit (82% black) in 1999 there were 2,121 arsons. In Windsor (2% black) there were about 120. Hmmmm, that's odd. Well, what about automobile theft? They may not have guns up there but they have cars, so we can compare those numbers. In Detroit (82% black) in 1999 there were 25, 892 car thefts, while in Windsor (2% black) there were 53. Son of a bitch! Not only do guns cause shootings, but cars cause carjackings! You can look at the table below to see for yourself. Included is the rate per 100,000 population to account for the fact that Detroit is a bigger city than Windsor.

Of course, when you point out the facts, you hear all kinds of bullshit excuses. My favorite one is, "Crime is caused by rampant poverty." Right. Poor Leroy is starving on the streets of America and just has no choice but to turn to a life of crime. How come when they break into your house at night they don't steal your groceries? I'm just not sure how the murder and assault rates can be explained by poverty. Or rape. How does sexual assault and battery improve a person's economic situation? What about arson? Look at the first table above and tell me, what the fuck does "being poor" have to do with arson? Is there good money in burning shit down or something? I mean, I know the kikes used to get rich by burning down their own warehouses for the insurance money. That was called "jewish lightning" in the old days. Maybe the niggers heard about that and got jealous so they set everything on fire and sat back and waited for their check. Somebody had to explain to them that not only did they not have insurance, but that they have to actually own the building that they burn down in order to get paid. Torching other people's buildings doesn't count. I just fail to see the connection. You know why? Because there is no connection. Wait, yes there is. You want to know the connection between poverty and crime? You spend all day and night looking for people to beat, rape, rob and kill. Then you look for stuff to break, steal or set on fire. You don't have time to work. Now you are poor. That's the connection. Poverty causes crime my ass. Was O.J. broke? Hell, Rodney King got like 50 million dollars for a well deserved beat-down, and he still can't act right. He has been arrested for drugs, hookers, assault, drunk driving, you name it. You remember that jogger in Central Park years ago that was beaten half to death and gang raped? They hit her in the head with a brick so hard her eyeball exploded. Those niglets that did that weren't even from the 'hood, they were upper middle class blacks with well to do, well employed parents. Their parents worked in big office buildings with White people who probably referred to them as the "good blacks." Great, we put all that time and trouble and effort to tame and educate a few of them and put them in suits and ties and teach them to act White and speak proper English, but look at their kids, out "wilding" on the Humans. You can teach a dog to shake hands but I have never seen a dog teach it's puppies to shake hands.
When you discuss black on White violence you will sometimes hear that, "They don't single out White people, most black violence is against other blacks." Hey, guess what, I don't give a shit. Does that mean I can smack your wife in the mouth and say, "Hey, don't worry about it, I smack my own wife, too." I don't care what they do to each other. Most shark bite victims are other sharks, but hey, when a shark bites a person it's a different story isn't it? Sometimes the blacks complain because more niggers are on death row for killing Whites than for killing other niggers. So? Dogs can bite each other all day, but when they bite humans we shoot them. Who cares what they do to each other? They say that most rapes, muggings, robberies, assaults and murders are simply random crimes of opportunity that are committed against people who live within a mile of the perpetrator(s). Well, that's a good reason to keep niggers at least a mile away from you. I mean, if some crackhead is going to rob somebody in his own neighborhood, then I don't want them in my neighborhood. Besides, most White violence is against other Whites, but that doesn't stop the government from passing ridiculous hate crime laws against us, even though we are the overwhelming majority of the victims of interracial violence. I have heard liberal types say crap to the effect that if you are the victim of a crime, it is racist to be more offended if the perp is a non-White. Well, it is more offensive when we are victimized by them. The excuse for the passage of hate crime legislation is that singling out a victim based on race "sends a message." (I personally think that if thumping muds "sends a message" then it should qualify as free speech, but that's a different story.) Let me see if I can say this the way I want to: Look, niggers kill each other every day of the week, but if a White cop shoots one, there are riots, special investigators, trials, sensitivity training, etc....so I mean, it is considered perfectly legitimate for them to be "more offended" at a particular killing, depending on who is doing the killing. That's like fags. Did you know that the majority of violence against homosexuals is committed by other homosexuals? Domestic violence in the "gay" community is off the hook. If you are a faggot, you are much more likely to get your ass kicked by another poofie than by a straight guy, but look at the reaction when we beat the shit out of a few of them here and there. Special hate crime laws and everything. Hell, if they want to reduce violence against gays, they should go after the gay community itself. The same with "minorities." Violence against minorities is committed by....minorities. The point is not to reduce violence against "gays and minorities" but to find another way to jam the White man. This is kind of funny, you remember Jeff Dahmer? (The guy in Milwaukee who kidnapped, sodomised and ate niggers and gooks.) One of his teenage Vietnamese victims escaped and ran down the street naked and bleeding from the ass. By the time Dahmer caught him, the cops had showed up. Having come under attack by the homosexual activists for their "heavy handed" handling of gay domestic violence and been forced to undergo sensitivity training, the cops were scared to do anything. Since the slope couldn't speak English, the cops believed Dahmer when he said it was a "domestic dispute," and they told him to keep his hysterical boyfriend inside the house. He did, ha ha.
Another example is the phony wave of black church burnings a few years ago. Did you know that the number of church arsons actually went down that year? Not only that, but fully one third of them were being investigated as being intentionally started by the black preachers themselves for insurance (hey, "black lightning!") or attention or whatever. It was totally a media-induced phenomenon, but when a few drunk crackers went out and actually did torch an empty black church in the middle of the night, they got 25 years for it. The average sentence for raping a woman is only 6 years in America, and these guys got 25 for arson. It's like if they burn their own churches, that's cool, but if we light one up, we get the max.
The problem is not so much the blacks or the crime, or the hypocritical laws and propaganda or the rest of it. The problem is us. White people. The blacks are smart enough to see themselves as a group. They recognize that an attack on one is an attack on all of them. They may have problems in their own community, but if an outsider crosses the line extraordinary measures are needed. That is a healthy way to react. I read the jew bastard Alan Dershowitz's book, "Chutzpah" a few years ago and he talked about the way jews promote and defend themselves above all others. He said that he told his Yiddish grandmother that the Dodgers had won the World Series, and she looked puzzled for a moment and then asked him, "Is that good for the jews, or bad for the jews?" I have more respect for that old jew bitch than I do for the majority of my own people these days. She sifted every event, no matter how insignificant, through the filter of jewish survival. Before she formed an opinion about anything, she considered it's potential effect on her tribe. That rocks. We used to be that way, and one day we will be again, and our enemies had better hold on to their asses.

Whenever we let our ability to create a comfortable lifestyle for ourselves outpace our self control we have paid the price. For example in Rome, we hired mercenaries to fight our wars for us and brought in slaves to perform the manual labor that we had done ourselves for thousands of years. We became too civilized to defend ourselves and Rome fell. In Portugal we let the Moors in and it took 400 years to get them out. If you ever get a chance to read Caesar's war diaries, do it. He gives detailed accounts of Teutonic tribes that didn't allow traders to pass through their territory, not wanting their people to become accustomed to trinkets and fineries. They also made every family in the tribe live in crude homes without roofs, and everybody had to exchange houses once a year. The reason for all of this was to keep the tribe from getting accustomed to a nice cozy homestead and lose their lust for war. How many of us could do that? They realized that we live in a world of either defeat or constant struggle. The people that rest to enjoy a tenuous victory is a people defeated. Shit, I read about George Washington's troops marching for miles through snow with no shoes, leaving trails of blood. Once their boots gave out, they could either wear a shirt, or they could rip it apart and wrap each half around a foot. That is hardcore. I tried to see how far I could walk in the snow barefoot when I lived in Minnesota one time. I made it (almost) to the sidewalk and ran cussing back to the house. We have squandered the civilization that our ancestors fought and died for. They cared more for us than we care for ourselves.

Truth: Our race is unique and irreplaceable, and we will continue to vanish off of this planet in the exact same proportion to which we allow ourselves to be convinced otherwise.
Shit, how many people do you personally know who agree with you in private, but wouldn't want to come out of the "racist closet" for fear of offending that cool black guy they work with? We are being hunted down in the streets and we still don't want to offend our enemies. Jesus, if you added up the combined wealth of blacks in America, they would constitute the 10th richest nation on the planet, ahead of some European countries. Blacks in America have the longest lifespan of any blacks on the planet. In fact, the blacks that live among majority White populations anywhere on Earth have the best education, the best hygiene, the most wealth, and the longest life expectancies of any other blacks in the world. Look it up yourself. With "enemies" like us, who needs friends?

When black cops formed the Fraternal Order of Black Police, did they worry about offending the White cops? Nope. When we let the niggers not only vote, but run for office, and they formed the Black Congressional Congress, or Caucus, or whatever the fuck it's called, did they give a shit if that offended the White politicians or White voters? Nope. When niggers win a lawsuit and force a White University to let them in, what's the first thing they do? They start a Black Student Union. Think they give a fuck what you think about it? Nope. To paraphrase George Orwell in The Road To Wigan Pier, "With loving though slightly patronizing smiles we set out to greet our black brothers, and behold! our black brothers...are not asking for our greetings, they are asking us to commit suicide." Did you know that White men commit suicide in the same proportion that black men commit murder? They turn their frustration outwards, we turn it inwards. We are committing racial suicide. We have been convinced that our presence on this planet offends our fellow humans so, being polite, we prefer to simply disappear. Fuck that. I want to live, goddamn it. We have to be careful, though. When Daniel Boone was captured by Indians, the Blackfeet, I think, he built up his trust in the tribe until they would let him go hunting on his own, since he was such a good tracker and marksman. He was plotting his getaway and would cut his bullets in two pieces, trusting in his ability to bring down a deer with half a bullet while saving the other half to make good his escape from his vicious captors, which he eventually did. I feel like we are all shooting with a half a round. We have to be careful. Racist White men have a tough row to hoe, and we have many enemies. An argument at a gas station with a wetback may result in a 6 year prison sentence if you punch him in the nose and verbally remind him that he is a wetback, as happened to a guy in Florida last year. Or if a known black rapist comes to a Spring Break bonfire to hit on White girls and your buddies, who happen to be Skinheads, happen to crack a bottle over his head, you might happen to be sentenced to 4 years in prison for violating the state's new anti-gang law (which the state's citizens were terrorized into passing in order to combat the state's exploding nigger crime rates) even though you didn't even happen to see the fight, as happened to Greg a couple years ago in California. [Even though the prosecutor admitted that Greg didn't see the fight, he convinced a jury that Greg's presence at the bonfire "contributed to the "gang's" "mentality"] Or maybe you go to a gas station in the shitty part of town after a concert, and get murdered in front of 30 witnesses, as happened to Joe a few years ago. Your Wife and Children may spend their lives widowed and orphaned but the 30 witnesses happened to be Skinheads, and therefore not "credible", so the nigger in that case was freed after 2 nights in jail and the chief of police of Racine, Wisconsin declared that Joe had gotten what he deserved for being a "hatemonger."
The point is, we have to be careful. We have to win a war that most of our own people don't even realize is being waged. They won't be able to afford the luxury of their ignorance much longer, though, and then the day will come when they learn that there is a price for everything, and they will have to pay.

-- CogDissident (951207)

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (0, Offtopic)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675901)

Sadly I don't have mod points for you, but I agree 100%
I have notice a clear striation in class where a certain style of music (gansta rap) becomes the norm. It's kind of interesting to me that in this "lower class" the rap music dominates, while in even mid-level classes there is an much wider breadth of music.
-nB

Re:Sad News, Don Imus dead at 83 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675937)

No one with a job likes rap. At all. And if they do, they have no appreciation for culture at all. And the culture they are a part of isn't a culture, but the culture is nothing but poverty stricken lazy felons.

Can you detect my disdainful sarcasm resulting from your ignorance and stupidity? What a moron. . .

Re:I disagree (0, Offtopic)

rlp (11898) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675731)

> I'd rather say, thank-god-i'm-not-in-china!

Or Utah.

thank-god-they-got-something-right (2, Insightful)

kad77 (805601) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675971)

As much as I find it amusing to see these MMORPG wastoids be voluntary drawn out of society (I do oppose the China's big brother methods, though), I am happy to see a force intervening.

These sad souls need guidance, rehab, a life, something outside the warm cocoon of fat rolls and 3d dwarf landscapes.

Re:thank-god-they-got-something-right (3, Interesting)

hahafaha (844574) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676113)

These sad souls need guidance, rehab, a life, something outside the warm cocoon of fat rolls and 3d dwarf landscapes.

On the contrary, one ought to decide for himself if he wants to live in the ``cocoon of fat rolls and 3d dwarf landscapes.'' Through observation, it has been noticed that children of a certain age are unable to make this decision for themselves (though, I must say that 18 is far too old to be considered the time one becomes an adult. It should be 16, in my opinion), it is the duty of parents to make this decision. Never the government. I would much rather see my children spending 24 hours a day playing silly games than be regulated in those matters by the state.

Re:thank-god-they-got-something-right (1, Interesting)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676269)

What about children without parents? Should there be a government policy for foster children?

I think the distinction between "government" and "family" is actually a little artificial. In some sense, the family is the smallest unit of government, to which certain tasks are delegated. This is definitely the theory of many mid-century social theorists, including Althusser.

Re:thank-god-they-got-something-right (4, Interesting)

ultranova (717540) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676399)

These sad souls need guidance, rehab, a life, something outside the warm cocoon of fat rolls and 3d dwarf landscapes.

Without commenting on your arrogant assertion that you know how someone else should live their live, this rises up a rather interesting point: why does the Chinese government want children to spend their time in reality rather than virtual reality ? After all, people playing WoW are far less likely to demand freedom or engage in other activities antithethical to the Chinese political system than people spending their time speaking with each other and perhaps coming up with dangerous ideas lie freedom from censorship. Warm cocoon makes people drowsy, cold reality shocks them wide awake. The former makes it far easier for the Chinese government to stay in power than the latter.

Is this a case of a tyrant starting to believe his own lies about his benevolence, or does the Chinese government just have absolute confidence in their iron fist ?

Re:I disagree (2, Insightful)

angryoaf (843315) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676235)

Human rights or not, I think this is a good thing. I've seen so many kid's lives fall apart because of MMOs because their parents just don't "get it" here in the USA. On the other hand this will force MMO makers to stop making games that require multi-hour grinding sessions to keep people interested and active. They might have to actually come up with *gasps* engaging and entertaining content that can be completed within a reasonable time frame.... for China anyway. The only MMO company with decent North American penetration that tries to do this normally is NC Soft. God bless em and their ugly low budget games.

thank-god-i'm-over-18 dept? (1, Funny)

tylersoze (789256) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675387)

Uhh how about the thank-god-i-don't-f**king-live-in-china-for-any-re ason dept?

Terrible! Monstrous! Diabolical! (0, Offtopic)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675419)

When can we get that here?

I would imagine... (4, Interesting)

arkham6 (24514) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675431)

That kids getting caught faking identities to get around this would be dealt with harshly by the government.

Parents (or kids?) going to jail because junior wanted to play WoW for more than 3 hours a day and faked ID?

Re:I would imagine... (0, Offtopic)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675591)

Maybe the kids can get off lightly if they report the parents themselves. I've heard this worked well in the past.

China is repressive (3, Interesting)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675445)

China is really repressive of their younger generation gaming online, primarilly because their dissident groups start up from these under 18 people being online. Stopping them from gaming as much will help disrupt bonds between the groups and cause slightly less anti-government behavior.

Of course I think their system will collapse in a few years because of this anyway, but it is likely to stave off the inevitable for a little while at least.

Re:China is repressive (3, Insightful)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675673)

Working against the existence of dissident and anti-government groups usually leads to subversive and resistance groups in short order. Bite them in the ass indeed.

Re:China is repressive (1, Flamebait)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675819)

The USA does this quite a bit, and we really don't have so many subversive groups, because the way that it is done makes their subversive groups look like fringe crazies.

The thing china is doing wrong is that they are trying to stomp out subversive groups without addressing the underlying issues or at least swinging popular opinion against subversive groups. They need to cause their own terrorist attack (from XYZ subversive group in china) so that they can have public opinion behind the government again.

Also... (3, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676097)

The USA does this quite a bit, and we really don't have so many subversive groups, because the way that it is done makes their subversive groups look like fringe crazies.

It helps a lot that in many cases, the subversive groups are fringe crazies.

Re:Also... (4, Funny)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676185)

Arguably, so are most of our elected officials.

Re:China is repressive (2, Informative)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675895)

China isn't going to collapse.. For that to happen you need mass hate of the government, but at the moment China is in an economic boom. Zimbabwe has been under a dictatorship for years now, but only now that citizens are getting poorer are they actually starting to do something about it.

The vast majority of people aren't going to risk their new improving lifestyles for the sake of extra hours gaming for the kids, or even free speech. I just hope a nut-job doesn't find his way into power.

Re:China is repressive (1)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676021)

You really should look up the industrial revolution, and how many, many governments suddenly found themselves forced with the decision to either change to a more open form of government, or face open revolt.

Good working conditions actually give people inspiration to try to change their government, because now that they don't struggle to put food on the table every day they can spend time thinking about political issues.

Re:China is repressive (1)

Viper Daimao (911947) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676291)

this law + pipe in some Rage Against the Machine = Revolution [azlyrics.com]

Oh no! (5, Interesting)

HellYeahAutomaton (815542) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675471)

Looks like I'll have to look to India for my gold farming.

Can't they just restrict their manufacturing to 3 hours a day too?

Re:Oh no! (2, Interesting)

FirienFirien (857374) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676141)

Why cut a cheap producer? A country that imports goods from China (or whichever other cheap producer you care to name) is cutting costs in the same way that a company will outsource work that it considers cheaper to be elsewhere. The options to the worker are to do a better job or work more cheaply. Demanding a high pay for a job that someone else will do more cheaply (and with a better quality ratio than the cost ratio, in most cases) doesn't make financial sense.

Supply, demand. Attempting to get closer back onto topic - if you create a minor economy that pays people who are willing to invest their time in it in their own major economy, then you're always going to get gold farmers, whether live or bot. If a job pays, it doesn't matter whether it's a computer 'game' or a more conventional job; people are willing to pay for it. The only way to counter it is to remove value from grinding, which is uninteresting to a lot of gamers. Even games like Puzzle Pirates - whose rankings are utterly dependent on personal skill, with no +items, with little effect from having $$$$$$$$) - have seen botting and farmers.

Even still, it's not likely to be tied to this topic - people who are using children for farming (perhaps a mild form of, but still being, child labor) will be simply able to get around the limit. The reasoning behind this legislation then looks very much tied to concern about health - especially with the occasional person in the news dying from binge gaming. That's reinforced by the messages themselves; it's also closely supported with China's other health programmes, which look from the outside to be carried out very well - for example the dental education program, paid for by the government, going out to the remote rural areas as well as the urbs and suburbs; with such a large population to watch over, blanket health programs and legislation (preventing or reducing the damage to health, in gaming or dental or whatever) are really very good.

Re:Oh no! (1)

3chuck3 (512455) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676165)

Yes, I thought the RMT/Gold Farmers where based out of China also. Will this mean people will stop slaying all my MOBs?

Then a Big Yeah! for the Chinese government.

I wish US players had to do this... (4, Interesting)

beef curtains (792692) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675493)

...so that under-18 players could be restricted to certain servers, and the rest of us could play in peace, basking in the huge decrease in leetspeek, ninja looters, griefers & beggars.

Seriously though, this whole "nanny state" the Chinese have going over there just cracks me up. I wonder if one can "bank" one's hours by not playing for a few days, in order to have enough time to join an end-game raid without worrying about one's big-brother software logging you off at an inopportune time.

Re:I wish US players had to do this... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675855)

Your name (beef curtains) proves that even those over 18 spout the crap we don't like to see in game. ;)

Re:I wish US players had to do this... (1)

beef curtains (792692) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675959)

Touché.

:P

In other news... (1)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675509)

In other news kids are now swiping adults ID cards in China. Entire city blocks have now been closed off with hundreds of riot control police and...

If China really wants to help kids... (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675519)

How about it starts by improving the country's dismal human rights record? I would be a lot less worried about my kid playing too much WoW than I would be about the possibility that he could be thrown in prison for the rest of his life because he made a speech at his school bad-mouthing the government.

Re:If China really wants to help kids... (2, Funny)

goldspider (445116) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675687)

Newsflash: China's government isn't particularly concerned about human rights.

Pictures at eleven.

Re:If China really wants to help kids... (4, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675965)

Pictures at eleven.

What are you talking about? All I see are happy pictures of happy people hanging around China's grand Tiananmen Square [google.cn] . It sounds like you've been listening to too many American conspiracies! Would you like to visit our special hotel for American conspirists?

Re:If China really wants to help kids... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676095)

Yeah, he talks crazy. All is doubleplus good!

Re:If China really wants to help kids... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18676055)

if u want to help kids in china...go start offline gaming statup

What about the Olympics? (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675537)

Will their be a timed meter for juvenile viewing of the local Chinese television coverage of that huge propoganda magnet when the time comes? Yes, yes, twiddling your thumbs on a game console for three hours isn't the same as watching large, barbarian Scandinavians cream your countrymen in the shotput... because at least the game console gives your thumbs some exercise.

Re:What about the Olympics? (1)

tnk1 (899206) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675605)

No, they just force them to watch the gymnastics and ping-pong events.

Chinese raid deterrent? (1)

Xenious (24845) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675551)

So how will they raid with only 3 hours of game time? ;) On a serious note does this only apply to internet cafe's or also in home gaming?

Re:Chinese raid deterrent? (1)

MaximvsG (611212) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675841)

I was thinking the same thing. A lot of runs take over 3 hours. And just the time to get all your prep stuff for a raid can take some time. It would get frustrating being almost done in an instance when 1/4 of the group has too leave because they're hitting the 3 hour time limit.

Re:Chinese raid deterrent? (1)

notthe9 (800486) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676249)

Sounds like the limitation with be server/account-based.

Encourage? (1)

catbertscousin (770186) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675557)

From TFA:

The government yesterday issued a regulation, which takes effect on April 15, demanding online operators set up a "game fatigue system" that encourages players under 18 to play less than 3 hours a day.
After the 5-hour limit, players will be subjected every 15 minutes to the warning: "You have entered unhealthy game time, please go offline immediately to rest. If you do not, your health will be damaged and your points will be cut to zero."
I wouldn't call that encouraging, I would call that threatening. If I got that message and responded by going offline, it would be because I didn't want to lose the points I'd just gained, not because I was worried about my health.

Re:Encourage? (1)

backbyter (896397) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675683)

"If I got that message and responded by going offline, it would be because I didn't want to lose the points I'd just gained, not because I was worried about my health."

You're thinking the damage to your health will be from the game. Since this applies to China I assume that the State very well might have something more direct to do with damaging your health because of your civil disobedience.

Read the article.. not the summary- no time limit (5, Informative)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675571)

FTFA: "Under the system, known as the "anti-online game addiction system", the first 3 hours of play for each day is considered "healthy", during which players will be awarded full points in the virtual world. The next 2 hours will yield only half the normal points and there will be no points after 5 hours. "

Re:Read the article.. not the summary- no time lim (1)

Shemmie (909181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676203)

Please Mod parent up for being one of the few to actually RTFA instead of automatically assuming the kids would be rounded up and shot for passing the time-limit.

What's wrong with people? (2, Insightful)

ilovegeorgebush (923173) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675579)

Each time I read about China and their antics in the media, I increasingly dislike the country. I know we're not entirely free here in the western world, but at least we can make our own mistakes.

Nanny states are bullshit, just come visit the UK [engadget.com] in the not to distant future and you'll see what I mean (in fact, regardless of the nature of the previous link, we're already a nanny state).

Re:What's wrong with people? (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676267)

China has much bigger issues [hrw.org] than being a "nanny state".

FULL SUPPORT HERE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675581)

Chinese kids who are playing games are Chinese kids that aren't making my cheap plastic crap.

In other news... (1)

The Media Mechanic (1084283) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675595)

China requires Kids to undergo 3 hours of Communist Ideology Indoctrination Training.

wow (1)

bemisit (1086573) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675631)

I agree that China needs to work on its human rights issues first. In another sens eI can understand why they want to implement a system like this, although given that China likes to ban things (i do believe they banned at least some form of blogging fairly recently) and then un-ban them, I wonder how long this rash, harsh measure will last. Some people criticize America (and rightfully so in many instances) but atleast I don't have to live with asinine restrictions on how long I can play a video game.

Re:wow (0, Flamebait)

suzerain (245705) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676241)

Right...in the USA, "human rights" are just something for (white or rich) Americans to enjoy. If you live in Cuba, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Peru, or Chile, or Guatemala, or any of the other countries where the USA has like assassinated democratically elected leaders, invaded to steal resources, helped to ignite civil wars - sometimes by arming both sides, or just generally swindled and fucked with in order to keep their governments bankrupt.

Then, you can look at the prisons, which are filled with somewhere on the order or 80% non-white citizens in a country with roughly 80% white population. Over 2/3 of those in American prisons are there on nonviolent drug offenses (many incredibly minor for the punishment), and they are working as essential slaves in a privatized prison economy. Oh, and in many states, they will lose their right to vote - for the rest of their lives, despite the fact that drug laws have been continually lobbied for by groups like the trial lawyer's association and prison food suppliers, who make more money when people are incarcerated. (Money for white lawyers instead of freedom for minority Americans.)

And then there are further instances that are sometimes difficult to quantify: Guantanamo, secret CIA prisons, evil despots in foreign governments who are on our payroll, oil companies raping poor countries by stealing 85% of their profits from oil, free speech only existing in "free speech zones", the PATRIOT Act, etc. and so on...

Seriously, Americans (of which I am one) throwing darts at other countries because of "human rights" is a fucking joke. And it's a really twisted, disgusting joke, because these same Americans apparently seem to believe that their government is immune from being Really Fucking Evil because they can play video games more than 3 hours a day and say that Bush is a fucking asshole (which he indeed is).

In the case of China, many of the "nanny state" policies are irritiating, and perhaps even "Morally wrong", and many are certainly motivated by a great deal of paranoia and self-preservation on the government's behalf. And, journalists have indeed been jailed, and all sorts of horrible things have happened in the name of the government. And all of these things are indeed disgusting.

I'm not arguing China's government isn't tinged with evil. But if you get yuor head out of your ass and stop watching/reading American news, which is controlled by exactly 3 companies, 2 of which are defense contractors, you might find out our government is just as evil, only we hide it better, and we tend to fuck with people outside our country instead of inside.

I think the real point is: governments are evil...plain and simple.

Anyway, while you cry for the Chinese youth who can't play WoW for more than 3 hours a day, I'll come back to the "freedom" of the USA this weekend, where I can't even take hair conditioner on a fucking airplane unless it is less than 3 ounces or something, and in a ziplocked plastic bag. And, this plastic bag can only be a certain size, even if the contents are in tiny containers and don't exceed the limit, because we all know plastic bag size is what brings down airplanes.

What is that you said about "nanny state" again?

Productive Gameplay? (0)

minotaurcomputing (775084) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675657)

Isn't that an oxymoron?
-m

Re:Productive Gameplay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18676065)

Quite a few people in China use MMOs to raise money by farming and selling the game currency for real money. I suppose that could be termed productive.

In the workers paradise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675671)

The government, not the parents, is responsible for controlling the children?

I wonder who is responsible when little eight year old Le punches his classmate in the nose?

Or 16 year old Hwang rapes a 13 year old neighbor girl?

Re:In the workers paradise (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675793)

The West. Duuuh.

Repressive governments... (1, Insightful)

pubjames (468013) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675701)

Before all you USAians start going on about how repressive the Chinese government is, many of us over here in Europe find it pretty strange that in the USA you can't drink until you're 21. That's much worse than only being able to play three hours of video games a day if you're under 18!
 

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

snarkh (118018) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675785)

Nice point. Excessive gaming should probably be discouraged by parents. I don't know why the government get involved, but then again, the American government seems very interested in the underage booze consumption.

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

Broken scope (973885) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675969)

I'm going to make a sweeping generalization, but school was unpleasant enough with sober idiots. Expecting your average highschool senior to exercise moderation.... well. good luck with that. Plus the fact that schools want kids to graduate. Once they are in college them fact they pay money to go to school offers a tiny incentive.

Re:Repressive governments... (3, Insightful)

beef curtains (792692) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676179)

I agree with you that, in today's society/culture, the chance that many high school kids will exercise moderation when it comes to consuming booze is pretty slim.

However, do you think if American society didn't pound the "drinking is bad, drinking is naughty, drinking is dangerous, you should NEVER drink" message into kids' heads (as opposed to "alcohol is a beverage that people enjoy with meals & in social settings, but, like anything else, drinking too much is not a good idea"), would the average high school senior binge-drink as much as he currently would when he got his hands on some booze?

And what if it was legal for said high school senior to go to the grocery store & buy some beer? Might that take away some of the "taboo" of drinking, and therefore the feeling that, upon "scoring" some beer. one needs to guzzle every drop in sight, because, "hey, who knows when we'll get this chance again?"

Just thinking out loud ;)

Re:Repressive governments... (2, Insightful)

rayvd (155635) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675905)

Ah yes, the obligatory anti-US spiel. On-topic to _any_ Slashdot discussion.

So is this something "repressive" by the Chinese government? What would you say if your own government tried to impose something like this?

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

pubjames (468013) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676039)

What would you say if your own government tried to impose something like this?

Well, I can tell you one thing - if the governments here tried to raise the drinking age to 21 there would be far bigger protests than if they tried to impose this...

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

bitt3n (941736) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675983)

Before all you USAians start going on about how repressive the Chinese government is, many of us over here in Europe find it pretty strange that in the USA you can't drink until you're 21. That's much worse than only being able to play three hours of video games a day if you're under 18!/blockquote. yeah, well it takes a few years of practice before you can aim a shotgun out your truck window well enough to hit those metric speed-limit signs while drunk. The fact that Europe is still full of those damned metric signs while here they're virtually extinct is proof enough.

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676363)

maybe you should get a blockquote right first, then learn to use a shotgun ;-)

Re:Repressive governments... (2, Insightful)

SocratesJedi (986460) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676041)

This claim seems to amount to "Because your government is wrong about certain topics, clearly every citizen of that government has no standing to be critical of any other government." No individual citizen has the capacity to control government policy so it seems to me a bit silly to claim that we all must have faulty reason when speaking on foreign governmental matters as a result of our government's lack of vision.

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

thaylin (555395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676133)

Yes because gaming causes your brain function to deteriorate so that you can not make proper decisions for a number of hours afterwards right? The only issue with gaming is when parents do not instruct kids in the difference between right and wrong, or reality and imaginary worlds. Drugs, which alcohol is a member of, actually modifies your behavior, and dexterity making you dangerous to be around in certain events, which while drinking you have less ability to rationalize and prevent yourself from doing. I am not a nazi anti drinker, it does need to be regulated however.

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

Cervantes (612861) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676195)

If only I had mod points, you'd be "+1, Amen"

I've yet to be able to wrap my head around the "Here's a gun, go kill for your country... but no beer for you!" policy of americans.

Re:Repressive governments... (1)

johncadengo (940343) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676337)

in the USA you can't drink until you're 21.

Oh, you can drink. Just go to college.

Old news (1)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675723)

The Chinese government started out by limiting World of Warcraft to 3 hours a day, but that was like a year ago...

And, when that happened, there were tons of stories about how people just got more than one account, since time played was dependent on the account that you're logged into. Perhaps they'll change the way these other MMOs deal with it, but there was a simple (and very lucrative for Blizzard) workaround in WoW.

This is not to restrict kids online playtime (5, Interesting)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675741)

Users will have to register with their real names and Chinese identity card numbers to be allowed access to the games.

THAT is the real reason. Register for this...soon register for ALL internet use.
"We want to know who you are and where you go."

Re:This is not to restrict kids online playtime (3, Insightful)

mstahl (701501) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676101)

I'm actually quite surprised I had to read this far down in the comments to find someone else who caught that.

Hearing China freak out about video game and internet addiction so much lately has raised some weird red flags with me. The Chinese government has a lot of reasons to keep people offline, and online gaming is one of those things the Great Firewall of China (the existence of which the government denies) they can't control as tightly. This is another subtle way to keep their citizenry in line.

it's so sad that China that gets it right (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675803)

It is so sad that it has to be a country like China that finally gets it right.

MMO-s are addictive, they are designed to be addictive, not as a controlled substance but as a physiological trick of continuous reinforcement. Very soon people do not have fun in these game, rather they can't actually quit, they need to play to feel good again and regular life seems devoid of this feel good ingredient.

Alas I know too well what it is like to be addicted to an MMO. And I consider myself lucky to still have a job (thank god for my wife).

Moreover asian countries are at even more risk than US. There is a cultural affinity to the kinds of achievments that MMOs offer: "grind=advancement" and people get sucked in a lot more. Regulating gaming seems outrageous, until you realize that we're getting into a territory where we are not talking about games anymore...

Re:it's so sad that China that gets it right (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676045)

You = Fission mailed.

Re:it's so sad that China that gets it right (1)

King_TJ (85913) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676213)

I disagree. China did not "get it right" with these new restrictions, at all! (Let's pretend, for a moment, that their motives behind limiting gameplay have NOTHING to do controlling youth who want a "secret place" to communicate freely and disagree with government.)

Even IF their motives were purely "in the best interests of the kids" (yeah, right!), since when is it government's job to interfere in this way? MMOs *are* addictive. No argument from me there! That's one big reason I'm divorced. My ex-wife got WAY too hooked on them and stopped communicating with me, except to drone on about some virtual achievements in the game (until she had to run and take a phone call from someone in her "clan", bugging her to get back online and help them form a raiding party or what-not). It's crazy....

But STILL, I'd be pissed off if our govt. placed some type of legal restriction on the use of this software! When you're a teenager, you have loads of "free time". If you're at least playing a MMO type game vs. some one-on-one console game, you're socially interacting online. And these Internet cafes get youth out of the house, at least. It's the job of *parents* to decide when their kid has done enough gaming for one day, not the government!

And *adults* getting addicted to MMO games? Well, that's your own problem to deal with. MANY things in life can be addicting.

Re:it's so sad that China that gets it right (4, Interesting)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676349)

Ok, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but...

There was a time - back when I was actively playing a MMORPG (Final Fantasy XI) that I would have agreed with the idea that MMORPGs are addictive. However, my experiences over the last year or so have made me far less certain.

I started playing FFXI in November 03, importing a copy from the US when it launched there. For the first couple of months, it was just a curiousity... something I logged into once in a while and ran around a bit. Then somebody else I knew in real life started playing. And then another. The amount of time I was putting into the game increased considerably, to the point where it was taking up well over 50% of my non-work time (I have what's essentially a 9-5 office-based job). I was going out less, particularly at the weekends, playing other games less and watching fewer movies (never complain about MMORPG monthly fees - you wouldn't believe how much money they save you). About the only other past-time that didn't suffer was reading.

I got heavily into the game. I did the whole end-game thing, with all the grief and drama that went with it. I slogged through the Chains of Promathia expansion, which was exhausting, frustrating, and infuriating, but also responsible for some of the biggest adrenelin rushes I've ever had from gaming.

At this point, if the addiction analogy were really true, the next stage of the story should write itself; losing contact with real life friends and family, locking myself away in a darkened room, losing my job, dying alone in poverty etc. Except... it didn't. Some time last summer, I noticed that I just didn't quite care about the game as much as I had in the past. Logging in felt more like a chore, the game itself rarely did much for me and I was losing interest in the community. Over the next few months, my play time dwindled rapidly. By Christmas, I was only logging in for a couple of hours a week for scheduled Limbus runs. By February, even that had stopped.

There was no dramatic intervention. No moment when I realised I needed to go cold-turkey. In fact, I never did go cold turkey. I've still got the game installed and still pay $15 a month for my account. I just don't log into it, because I can't be bothered. It's not that I've moved onto another MMORPG. I have a WoW account, which I do log into occasionally, but I just don't find that game fun enough to grip me for long periods. Rather, I've more or less gone back to using my free time to do the things I did before FFXI came along. I'm not alone in this... the real life friends who got into FFXI shortly after I did followed a similar trajectory.

Now, compare that to how a genuine addiction works. I've known lots of smokers. I've also known a guy who started smoking cannabis at 15 and who was dead of a heroin overdose at 23. I've never known a smoker just give up the habit because they found cigarettes just didn't do much for them any more. From what I've seen (and I've never smoked), giving up smoking is painful (emotionally and perhaps even physically) and requires a good chunk of will-power. When drug users find that their current drug of choice doesn't do much for them any more, the response seems to be to move onto something harder.

MMORPGs have the effect on people they do for a number of reasons - interesting game worlds, clear goals of the kind that people lack in their real lives (this one is important), the ability to act out fantasies, a sense of worth from standing in a virtual community and so on. However, I can no longer believe that genuine addiction is one of the factors at work in most cases.

Re:it's so sad that China that gets it right (1)

thaylin (555395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676371)

That is just an excuse for people with little to no self control. People play these games because they want to. If the situation occurs that you mentioned that that individual has deeper underling issues then this game has cause. I have been an avid MMO player for about 13 years. I am not addicted to a game. I hop around and play these games, yet I also have an active social life. Dont blame the games for your lack of self control.

Homework (1)

jlebrech (810586) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675805)

So kids in China will do their homework, that's good for increasing the IQ of an already highly developed country technology-wise.

Wait about 10 years and see how different the IQs of china and the USA match up.

help me count here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675807)

"restrict under 18 users to 3 hours"

total user amount to restrict is a max of 18, and these, less than 18 will get max 3 hours. the rest will be allowed to roam free. I'd hate to be in that exclusive group.

m10

This is good (3, Interesting)

Jalwin (1082419) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675837)

Due to the prevalence of these cafes and the ungodly amount of time younger kids WASTE here, hopefully these laws will encourage these kids to do other more productive things in their free time. Kids are not known to be responsible, especially on items good for their own welfare. I'm not saying a little wasted time is a bad thing, but spending so much time on these type of games can have a serious negative impact on the social life of the kids and their school grades. I know several people who have dropped out of college or have trouble holding jobs due to these addictions. Granted, I'm sure some kids will find ways to get around this (like alternate between cafes). But it is the hassle of doing so that will hopefully encourage kids to limit themselves.

Re:This is good (1)

thaylin (555395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676297)

But this is an issue that should be regulated by their parents not their government. If parents are being so poor with decisions as to allow their kids to play 8 hours of games a day they should look at some sort of ways to get those kids away from those parents as it is obvious that they care little, or into a way to let families have more time together then working those parents to death.

double lifes (1)

Zeca (1081231) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675839)

I can see alot of parents signing up for thier young to pass the ban and keep the kids from nagging them. Kids plays online all day, dads at work gets a call from the goverment saying he has a double life and locks him away... Matrix anyone?

I think I speak for all of the Legashi in Azshara (1)

florin (2243) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675867)

when I say.. thank god

That ought to be interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675873)

According to this:

http://www.logoi.com/notes/common_chinese_names.ht ml [logoi.com]

"Over 50% of all Chinese people have one of these nine Chinese family names. And just 50 different family names are sufficient to name 90% of the population of China, that is, over a billion people."

I never thought about it, but how *do* they keep track of a zillion people with the same name? I can't imagine what their phone books must look like.

Re:That ought to be interesting... (1)

Spudtrooper (1073512) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675915)

I can't imagine what their phone books must look like.

A lot of Chins, hence the saying.

Not so bad... (2, Insightful)

Hikaru79 (832891) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675907)

Perhaps I'm the only one (and thus I will be modded into oblivion) but I don't think this is so bad. We are, after all, talking about minors here. As a poster above mentioned, America (lots of countries, actually) doesn't allow drinking under the age of 21; why is this? Because minors are not capable of responsibly handling something like alcohol. Well, guess what: most minors aren't capable of responsibly handling gaming either if they feel the need to do it in a public venue for more than THREE FREAKING HOURS per day! Three hours! That's almost 25% of your waking time playing a game. Notice that this does not restrict adults, and it does not constrict what anyone (including minors) do in the privacy of their own home. If any kid is so addicted that limiting his net-cafe time to three hours a day sounds like a terrible punishment, they are in need of help.

I'm 19, so I'm in the same ballpark; I dunno what Chinese society is like firsthand, but I sure as hell don't have more than three hours a day to dedicate to a single asinine activty every single day. In my opinion, anyone who does much more than three hours of gaming in internet cafe's a day is quite analogous to someone with a substance abuse problem; they're both physically damaging, overly time-consuming, money-wasting, and socially awkward.

Re:Not so bad... (1)

Obsidian Dagger (846679) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676377)

I read the article twice and saw no reason to think it it not have the limits at home. In fact the restriction is in the software not the cafes so it appears to restrict regardless of location.

That makes sense... (1)

catdevnull (531283) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675923)

The government just wants to bust the "geek" wrap those Asian kids get at school...

Sorry. I was channeling Don Imus.

swap the word "game" with "drug" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18675943)

That's how harmful the kids' gaming activities are right now in China. The kids are doing this without going to school/getting sick/stealing money.
DON'T attach everything with human rights please.

yeaa (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676189)

instead they should go to school (right from kindergarten at age 5), go through elementary, middle, high, college, grad, work their arse off for 18 years in order to be able to work their arse off MORE while working in their later life.

so, instead of "drugs" you want them to be FORCED to modern day slavery.

Chinese Party Youth League moves meeting (4, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675953)

The 24x7 Chinese Communist Party Youth League meetings in popular role-playing games have been rescheduled to 1700-2000 hours, effective August 1.

Unchanged is the mandatory attendance policy.

Chinese, you are reallyy, really stupid (-1, Flamebait)

unity100 (970058) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675967)

And this is no rant. For thousands of years you have let yourselves be molded to shape by a central government, be it the first emperor be it the communist party. only difference of chi and communist party is that there was a single emperor back then, now there are 5-100 emperors on the top deciding what you should do.

Law is aimed at the wrong age group (1)

netglen (253539) | more than 7 years ago | (#18675999)

Too bad that legal and underground Internet cafes in China are now the new Opium Dens. It's the adult crowd in China that is really abusing the system. They get more money going into the online game gold trade/farming gig then they would with a real mundane job.

if only... (1)

misanthrope101 (253915) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676023)

If only parents would limit their children's TV watching. In China, the USA, anywhere. Videogames are a good deal better (or at least less deleterious) for your brain than TV, I'd wager. Videogames may not make you smarter, but they don't actively make you know less than you did before, do they?

Government != Parent (1)

wcspxyx (120207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676093)

Nice to see the US doesn't have a monopoly on the government telling people how to be parents.

All those "good for kids" morons should wake up (3, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676135)

and wake up now -

if you BAR kids from doing something they REALLY like and WANT to do in their development stages, and instead FORCE them to do whatever society/you think right and should be done, what you do is going to come back to you as payback when kids reach adulthood and start to exhibit personality/psychological deviations.

ANYTHING that is suppressed gets bigger and strikes back at a later date.

this same trend was here in turkey aroun 15-20 years ago, all kids were put to the "career race", which was something that was seen as both good for the kids, and for the society. (hey, you make the kid race for ranking at the top in the national university entrance exams, which guarantees them a good education and then later a respectable, high salary job, what can be wrong with that)

and 15 years later now, majority of those generations are experiencing personality quirks, antisocial behaviour, a degree of childish selfishness, (which leads to MANY marriages to breaking up), strike-back from stress that is accrued in 15 years of organizational education/racing, aimlessness in life and valueing/judging everything on merits of career/power/monetary values and not able to appreciate real values like love, compassion, friendship, family and so on. hell, there are so many stuff that i dont know if i can stop once i start.

you, chinese are total morons for approving that, or forcing your kids to forfeit their present for their future, a future which never comes and constant sacrifice continues while trying to reach it.

time spent NEVER comes back. NEVER EVER. at deathbed what people think are what they HAVE done, not what they MEANT to do.

Re:All those "good for kids" morons should wake up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18676409)

Does that include barring kids from
1) drinking alcohol until they are 21?
2) bullying other kids?
3) Gambling?
4) killing other kids at school?

Because that seems to work pretty well for the majority of kids. Of course there are anomalies but generally kids are like other citizens. They have to learn how to obey the society restriction regardless of age.

A Dangerous Game (1)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676155)

The Chinese government is playing a dangerous game imposing more and more restrictions on a recreational past time enjoyed by an apparently large segment of the population. Bread and circuses are essential for an authoritarian regime to maintain power. And while it is probably easy for Chinese citizens to shrug off the lack of political freedom, it isn't so easy to ignore government interference in how one makes money (bread), or how one has fun (circuses). Given the large population of "spoiled", mostly male, young people due to the one child policy and bias towards male children realized through selective abortions, government restrictions on the recreational activities of this group carry a great risk. It would be better to have these young men wasting time in internet cafes playing WoW during their teen years, than making trouble for the regime in the real world, a world short of girls for them!

While I don't believe that kids under 18 should be playing WoW or similar games for more than 3 hours a day, if I'm trying to keep people from growing up with a desire to overthrow the government, it'd be better to just let them have their fun. WoW hasn't caused the collapse of civilization in any other countries as yet... right?

Take note, americans (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 7 years ago | (#18676251)

This could be the USA in a decade or lses. The dangerous thing here is that it is perfectly reasonable to "restrict" teenagers to 3 hours of gaming per day. What's wrong with this picture is it shouldn't be the government's job to do this, it's the parents responsibility. If families offload their parenting duties to the government, that's a very slippery slope of shaping and mind control. A generation later, we'll have these kids all grown up in these federal ways. They will be far more open to being controlled by their government... every generation will be less "free" than the last and they won't even know it.

Me, I'm all about tough love. If the kid is left to piss away their life in front of a dumb game like Lineage, and become a worthless drain on his/her family, well that's just desserts for the failed parents. The same way a good family expects their children to provide for the family later, as if parenting were a business venture, well they should be responsible if their strategy bombs and goes bankrupt.

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