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.eu Domain Names Top 2.5M in Year One

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the going-like-hotcakes dept.

The Internet 101

VictoryDone writes "More than 2.5 million ".eu" Internet addresses have been registered since the European domain name launched just over a year ago. Many worldwide brands — from companies like Air France and Versace to environmental campaigners Greenpeace — now have a ".eu" address, officials said, singling out non-European brands Sony Corp. and Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus for also choosing an ".eu" address in ad campaigns."

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jews did wtc (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699747)

you know they did

Odd? I have yet to type .eu to go to any site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700317)



I have yet to type .eu to go to any site. If it ain't dot-com, it ain't worth going to (slashdot.org one exception).

click here you stupid nigger (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700485)

Of course they got one (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699765)

You didnt expect them to sit there and let some cybersquatter take it, or worse a rival company did you?

Re:Of course they got one (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699801)

That does seem to be the most major reason for getting a .eu domain. Nobody really seems to care that much. Even Microsoft [microsoft.eu] don't really seem to be that interested in having their .eu domain redirect visitors to their main site.

Re:Of course they got one (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700039)

In other words, they're a complete waste of time since they mostly duplicate existing .com, .org or whatever.

Re:Of course they got one (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700999)

That's the problem with top level domains in general - they're useless.

And how many people actually used it? (4, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699775)

I live in the EU and can honestly say that I haven't tried typing a single .eu domain name yet, nor have I seen them in ads or links.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (2, Interesting)

rudegeek (966948) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699937)

FWIW they are quite popular for personal uses. Quite a few people I know got lastname.eu because they couldn't get .com/.net/.org -- so most of this sites are blogs, FOSS projects and the like. Companies who got .eu are probably using it just as an alias.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699943)

Also an EU resident here. Haven't seen a single one.... I pretty much only see country tlds and the generic ones (.com, .net and .org). Especially that my country is very small and still has a lot open names. My dad has one (our last name), but I don't: they simply are extremely expensive in comparison to the generic ones. For the same amount my dad has one domain, I've got three.

Actually, I'd consider buying my wifes first name as a present within my countries tld, because it's still free. On a generic, I'm pretty sure it would end up in a NSFW site ;-) (Before you say anything: pretty much all common female first names as a domain end up in NSFW sites)

Re:And how many people actually used it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700559)

pretty much all common female first names as a domain end up in NSFW sites

No, carol.com [carol.com] goes to Carol Shaw's page. She programmed River Raid for the Atari 2600 and some biochemist stuff for the macintosh.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700595)

That's pretty cool.... You have proven me wrong on at least one female name. I actually tried my wifes first name, despite being at work and I was surprised to find that it wasn't a NSFW site.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Doctor-Optimal (975263) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701753)

AND THAT MAKES ME SOOOOO HOT!

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1, Interesting)

jovetoo (629494) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699991)

When the EU members actually start get things done (instead of wasting lots of their time preening and jockying for position), people might actually feel part of it and the EU might become a little less abstract. The .eu TLD is unlikely to gain popularity as long as their citizens cannot identify themselves with the EU itself.

As a disclaimer, yes, I am a European citizen.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (3, Insightful)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700113)

The people having the least problem feeling themselves as a "part of the EU" are those EU citizens that do not live in their own country. For most of my life, I have been a foreigner in the country I live and I had no problem identifying myself as a "European Citizen". Heck, I thought that it would be a good idea to drop all nationalities and call ourselves "Europeans". I still think that (but it will never happen), and now I have adopted the nationality of my host country.

I still am not a real national in the eyes of the people living here. My accent gives me away every single time. Heck, even parts of my in-laws family call me the "Dutch Guy" (albeit jokingly), even though I have never been Dutch. Sure, I speak Dutch, but I am not from the Netherlands.

Nationality is a tricky thing and personally, I feel as if I have none. European would be closest, even if my passport doesn't say so.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700353)

Heck, I thought that it would be a good idea to drop all nationalities and call ourselves "Europeans".

Sure, and let's all speak the same language instead of the rainbow of languages currently existing, and give up all the varied cuisines of the world in favor of some flavorless mush that has just the nutrients we need to survive. And then we all end up killing ourselves because life is now too boring to be worth living. Diversity is what keeps things interesting.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700385)

That's not the same thing... Nationalities are label, you speak about culture. You can have different cultures within the same nationality.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (2, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701283)

Cultures are created by people.
As long as those people think nationality is part of their culture, it is.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701329)

Tell that to, for example: Bavarians....

Re:And how many people actually used it? (2, Interesting)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701829)

Sounds like America (Canada and the US) to me :). I find it funny that whenever we want tasty food, we go to an Indian, Chinese, Thai, French, Italian restaurant. Or when we want "arts", we go to an Italian opera, or look at French art. . People flock to other countries to eat their food, see their architecture, and art. I'm from Canada, and I find it kind of weird that we have no culture of our own. Maybe it's just because I'm from Canada, and so it just seems like regular life, and not culture, but does anyone else find America devoid of it's own culture?

Re:And how many people actually used it? (2, Insightful)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701959)

I find it funny that whenever we want tasty food, we go to an Indian, Chinese, Thai, French, Italian restaurant.

Plenty of classy steak joints and Tex-Mex restaurants around the U.S. That's mainly home-grown cuisine.

Or when we want "arts", we go to an Italian opera, or look at French art.

Plenty of American painters, photographers, and composers that are world famous. John Adams or Philip Glass operas tend to be just as successful as ones imported from Italy, and let's not forget that jazz was born in America.

People flock to other countries to eat their food, see their architecture, and art.

And plenty of people come to the U.S. from other countries to see the heartland of America, the remnants of hippie culture in San Francisco, or Hollywood dazzle in L.A. While the line between popular culture and legitimate high culture is often difficult to see in the U.S., the U.S. does indeed have it's own culture. Can't speak for Canada.

You are not trying hard enough. (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716735)

Music:

Jazz and all its derivatives (blues, rock & roll, rap, etc) are an US phenomenon.
The minimalist movement (whose major representative is Steve Reich) are perhaps the most influential movement in classical music in the last 30 years (get "Differnet trains" , an authentic masterpiece).

Writing:

Great Gatsby. Enough said.

Painting:

Andy Warhol? Wistler?

etc.

Most people in the US certainly are happy with disposable culture, perhaps in a major percentage that in other places, but there are many great things about US culture worth investigating (which I will when they drop the treatment of tourists as would be criminals or terrorists).

Re:You are not trying hard enough. (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716951)

One book is enough for all culture in writing? One book. Ok, I haven't read it, but even if it is that good, one book doesn't show any semblance of culture. Rock and Roll, I wasn't aware that the beatles were American. There's lots of other rock and roll that doesn't happen in the united states. Plus Rock and roll is such a generic term that form most people it encompasses everything from elvis, to the ramones , to Slayer, to Green Day.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

Kensai7 (1005287) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701367)

I couldn't find more comfort on your writings, mate. Same thing here. EU national living in another country, feeling more European than my native nationality.

And I don't give a shit about it. I'm in the MTV generation, have grown up with almost the same experiences with my fellow Europeans and I can understand them much more than my parents' generation did. YES, I'll probably register a .eu domain in the near future.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700263)

Right, and you are probably the same guy that complains that the EU has too much influence? The EU is getting a whole lot done, what more could they possibly do? EU laws are in all member states, international companies are regulated by EU, there is EU-wide cooperation on the military, major projects are being built across the EU with EU money, etc etc. Have you visited Spain or Greece and seen what is happening with EU money. There is also a lot of regulation to make trade easier across the EU, and you can live in any EU memberstate you like. And that you don't see the .eu TLD might have a different reason. Are you the type of guy that visits relatively new websites? What is the last website you have visited that is less then a year old?

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

pubjames (468013) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700343)

When the EU members actually start get things done

What, as opposed to trivial things like converting to a single currency, you mean?

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

jovetoo (629494) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700453)

Which is very nice... except that not every country that is part of the EU has actually joined.

We still don't have a constitution because some states are trying to get an advantage (Poland would be an excellent example) and few are willing to stick their political necks out to defend one.

And last but not least, what we did accomplish was mostly internal. When it comes to international conflicts like the war in Iraq, we had the UK pinch in, France and Germany complaining... but did you ever hear a unified European voice?

We have accomplished much, but we still have a long way to go.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#18702057)

I'd suggest you read up on US history. Specifically the period from the articles of confederation until the constitution established the current federal state. The US went through a lot of the same processes, though some of it was simplified in part because there were no entrenched powerful nation states involved.

In light of that a lot of the infighting between various EU member-states will make a lot more sense.

Re:And how many people actually used it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700035)

I ensured my father's company [bassfeld.eu] received a .eu domain. I just automatically forward it to our swiss site, but keep the .eu visible in the browser url.

The reason we did this was to ensure that when we have a greater market presence in the EU, we are percieved as being an EU-based company (although based in Switzerland).

Re:And how many people actually used it? (2, Interesting)

squaretorus (459130) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700375)

I keep being asked to register .eu domains for people, but they never want to use them for anything new, just to stop others from using them. It would be interesting to see some stats on how many have unique content. I'd guess under 2%

Re:And how many people actually used it? (1)

MaxInBxl (961814) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704583)

You obviously don't work with anyone working in EU institutions (European Commission, European Parliement, European Counsil, European Central Bank, Committee of Regions just to name some of the big ones all accessible via http://www.europa.eu/ [europa.eu] ) that all have a url with ".europea.eu" same goes for all their staff that has an email addrees with "@someinst.europa.eu".

I, for one, see ".eu" addresses every business day.

This isn't much used. (2, Interesting)

koreaman (835838) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699781)

I live in France, and have since September. I interact with French people every day. I have never seen or heard of a .eu address, and didn't even know they existed until reading this Slashdot article.

Re:This isn't much used. (5, Funny)

JuanCarlosII (1086993) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699809)

I live in France, and have since September. I interact with French people every day.
... I have since been accepted into the group and having studied them in their natural habitat they appear to have developed a rudimentary form of communication, an advanced social hierarchy, and a range of basic emotions that make them seem almost human.

Re:This isn't much used. (2, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699859)

Although cordonbl.eu is already taken up, no Frenchman has yet bought p.eu

Re:This isn't much used. (4, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699917)

Also, sacrebl.eu is still wide open.

Unfortunately, some squatter has already grabbed pepelep.eu...

Re:This isn't much used. (1)

NightFears (869799) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701715)

A quick check of fuck.eu shows that it doesn't have any special meaning in French.

Re:This isn't much used. (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699955)

I was going to assume that Jim Varney would have gotten pee.eu, but sitebytes.nl seems to feel that people looking for them might associate them with pee.

Re:This isn't much used. (1)

ozbon (99708) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700031)

Depressingly, both adi.eu and mondi.eu have been taken too.

Ah well, that's pretty much all the ones I was ever interested in...

Re:This isn't much used. (1)

zmower (20335) | more than 7 years ago | (#18710531)

p.eu isn't allowed as it's a single letter. I tried on the first day they were available. I did manage to get un-pn though. Couldn't believe it at the time.

What else did you expect? (3, Insightful)

ColdGrits (204506) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699795)

Yet Another (pointless) .tld is launched.

Of COURSE major companies are going to buy their domain name - they can't risk cybersquatters, rivals or people with a grudge buying instead, so they have no option.

However, I can tell you that as someone who lives in an EU country, I have never ever seen anyone publish their .eu domain - companies are registeriung the domains, but they are just using their normal internationally-known existing ones.

The .eu tld is just a money-raising exercise, nothing more.

BTW, I am willing to bet that a lot of the "good" names have already been snapped up by cybersquatters already. Which means the vast majority of domains are either squatters or companies keen to avoid being squatted. Which leaves VERY few "legitimate" .eu addresses in use...

Re: What else did you expect? (4, Interesting)

Adhemar (679794) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699927)

The .eu tld is just a money-raising exercise, nothing more

I know quite a number of individuals who have their own .eu domain, and prefer that over a domain with their country's TLD for political reasons: because they do not identify themselves too proudly as a citizen of their country.

There are several peoples with some degree of autonomist and secessionist movements in Europe:

  • Flanders from Belgium
  • Brittany and Corsica from France
  • Basque and Catalonia from Spain (however the latter have already the .cat TLD)
  • and many others [wikipedia.org] ...

Re: What else did you expect? (0)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700185)

Yes, because heaven forbid anyone actually be *proud* of their country and to be a citizen of said country. What a ghastly thought.

Re: What else did you expect? (1)

caramelcarrot (778148) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701039)

Maybe you should check the history of each of those groups before making grossly oversimplified generic patriotic statements? No-one should be a blind patriot.

Re: What else did you expect? (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701995)

Why would someone be proud of a country they don't want to be a citizen of?

Re: What else did you expect? (1)

koreaman (835838) | more than 7 years ago | (#18703817)

Explain why I should be patriotic in any way to my country of origin.

I'm not even going to give you any counter-arguments (yet), because the burden of proof is clearly on you, as you're the one who'se contending that one should be proud of one's country.

I'm American. Go.

Re: What else did you expect? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700265)

.cat is not for catalan pages in general, but for pages concerning their language.

Re: What else did you expect? (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700777)

I'm kinda amazed it didn't get co-opted by people making pages about cats...

Chris Mattern

Re: What else did you expect? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18722361)

.cat aren't for cats pages, are for the pages that use catalan language (catalonia, valencia, sudern france, west aragon, serdenya island and balear islands) and supports the catalan being.

catalan village has his own history that some invasors tried to loose the feeling of catalonia of the mind of his people.

Re: What else did you expect? (1)

harry666t (1062422) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701519)

"(...)because they do not identify themselves too proudly as a citizen of their country."

You mean 30-35 milions of polish citizens, including me, my family, friends, and almost everyone I know?

Marsz, marsz, Dabrowski...

That's all well and good, but this is better (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699815)

Check out the comments for the latest 'Lost' (TV Show) torrent: they demonstrate the truly global and truly generous character of bittorrent. At this point, there are more than 100 comments, all from people giving thanks and saying where they're from. There are even people from both sides of Cyprus!

http://www.mininova.org/com/658107 [mininova.org]

What's the point (2, Informative)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699831)

The only reason I care about a tld is when I'm shopping. For us Brits Amazon.co.uk has lower shipping costs and a faster delivery time than Amazon.com where the goods have to come all the way from the USA. As such I look for .uk tld names to ensure that they are in the same country as me.

Without wishing to get involved in flame wars about whether the EU is a good thing or not, for the sort of on-line shopping I do membership of the EU is not really relevant.

Re:What's the point (3, Informative)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700021)

Without wishing to get involved in flame wars about whether the EU is a good thing or not, for the sort of on-line shopping I do membership of the EU is not really relevant.

If you buy CDs it is. The CD-WOW lawsuit established that they can't ship cheap CDs and DVDs here from Hong Kong like they used to, but they can from EU nations. The CD sold by the record cartel in Slovenia is identical to the one sold in England, but a whole lot cheaper.

Re:What's the point (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700073)

They may be quicker, but I find the weakness of the dollar means that even if the shipping's more, the overall cost often works out less from the US - at least for those of us in the Euro zone.

Re:What's the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700105)

If you order anything from outside the EU, your package will go through customs and you may have to pay customs duties. For low-value goods the duties are generally waived, but it depends on the type of goods. You certainly should be aware of the difference, and you can avoid a lot of hassle if you only order from inside the EU.

Re:What's the point (1)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700491)

The only reason I care about a tld is when I'm shopping. For us Brits Amazon.co.uk has lower shipping costs and a faster delivery time than Amazon.com where the goods have to come all the way from the USA.

Knowing this, what's to stop someone from getting a .eu domain and selling crap from overseas? Near as I can tell the only way it's enforced is when you register they ask for a billing address in the EU. What you do with it seems to be unregulated.

Without starting a flame war over the EU... (1)

blorg (726186) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701647)

...euroskeptics agree as much as anyone that the EU is first a common market. As such I think there is a benefit of an .eu name for a company that serves primarily the EU (often with the addition of EFTA countries) - and such pan-european retailers are on the rise.

Work still has to be done here on several fronts to get to a similar open market like the US - delivery, even simple willingness to serve the entire EU, and yes, a common currency. But even as things are I've been buying from all over the last few years (Germany, France, Norway, UK) and I appreciate the extra choice and lower prices.

This is news? (1)

rudegeek (966948) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699841)

A new TLD was released and people who missed chance to get .org/.net/.com or Country-TLD are trying to get one? Colour me surprised. ;-)

clueless... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699877)

"After just one year `.eu' has become a well-established part of Europe's cyberspace," EU Media Commissioner Viviane Reding said.

She seems to think that a holding place for a lot of names is the same as a well-established part of cyberspace.
If I would have to define that, I would certainly include some specification of the actual usage. When nobody actually uses a .eu name (and almost nobody does), then I would not call it well-established.

But then I am not a clueless media commissioner.

What's more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699879)

When the .eu registries whois stops referring admins to use http service for registrant details, we may even begin accepting email from the TLD.

Registration restrictions (4, Informative)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699887)

"The registrants must be located within the EU"

Are regulations ever enforced? A little off topic maybe, but yesterday I almost registered a .us domain name.
As I was about to check out I got a different screen to normal. It said that I had to be a business with links to the US,
it also mentioned "all your personal information are belong to (.)us".

Researching it futher I found a right shocker. Swedish (and some others I don't remember) domains often have to pay to change DNS servers. Your rights for a particular domain differ quite a bit with each tld.

Re:Registration restrictions (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699979)

If I recall correctly, you need to either be a citizen of a European state or you need to have a company with an office located in a European state.

Re:Registration restrictions (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699983)

Czech Republic, Denmark , Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden, Russian Fed, ... among others charge a "Modification fee". I'd never come accross that before.

cctlds are very popular in their respective countries of course. Just check your rights before registering that Lithuanian or vietnamese domain hack.

And of course in the UK individuals have the right to hide their information on dns lookups. Handy to have the right to do that since its one attack vector for email harvesters.

Re:Registration restrictions (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700109)

And of course in the UK individuals have the right to hide their information on dns lookups. Handy to have the right to do that since its one attack vector for email harvesters.

The opt-out is intended for individuals and I'd support it if only Nominet revoked domains when notified of a spammer (ab)using it. These scum bags threaten the privacy of individual domain registrants because they won't even pay for a PObox or mailing address. I've not once had spam delivered to a hostmaster@ registrant address and address harvesting violates the whois terms of service. If you are the registrant for a domain, it follows that others may have a legitimate reason in wanting to contact you. I think the individuals right to mask their home mailing address and real name is valid, that right doesn't extend to spammers (who are operating commercially) and I don't see email address harvesting from whois as a problem.

Re:Registration restrictions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18703031)

Yes. I work for a registrar that sells .eu's, and the headaches that US residents trying to register EU domains, and .CA's for that matter, is what a good portion of my time is spent on. .US only recently started allowing public registrations, before that, you did have to be a US resident, or have a business interest in the US.

Re:Registration restrictions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18729719)

I've had an .se domain for seven years, and I didn't even know that. I don't change DNS servers anymore simply because it was such a complicated procedure to do. It is easy enough to avoid: Don't use glue. Register a .net TLD and point your NS records for your .se domain to it. Then you don't need to involve the NIC if you wish to change DNS servers.

Pointless Domain... (2, Insightful)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699915)

I've lived in a few European countries since the launch of the .eu domain. As with other posters here, I've not seen one single website or link to anything .eu

Which is not a surprise since no-one speaks Europeaish. If you have a pan European organisation then you need to have sites language specific, and in most countries people are trained to type in .de or .fr or .it before they'd try anything else.

If you have a .eu site then you have to have either, 1. some sort of portal which is just a list of links to language specific content, which simply means your visitors have to click twice to get to the content they want, or 2. a redirect based on IP - which is seriously annoying - especially if you are not a speaker of the majority language in the country you are currently visiting, this can make it hard, or in fact impossible (hands up everyone who doesn't speak Hungarian), to navigate a page (Google, I'm looking at you, hang your heads in shame).

So I see the only value in having a .eu site as the following - 1. domain squatters, and 2. the few people who have a business name that ends in "eu" - neu, or bleu, or similar.

Re:Pointless Domain... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18699975)

Someone already registered fuck.eu which are my sentiments towards eurid.eu exactly.

Re:Pointless Domain... (3, Insightful)

TERdON (862570) | more than 7 years ago | (#18699997)

Or you could just use the language indicated in the web browser settings. In this case using a country specific TLD doesn't really help in many cases - you'll still have the same problem in countries like Belgium, Switzerland, Finland, Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, etc, where more than one language is spoken...

Re:Pointless Domain... (1)

jandersen (462034) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700825)

As if language has anything to do with it. The tlds are meant for geographic/economic regions, nothing else. Many nations have more than one language: China is home to around 50 languages, India has several, Russia dozens, and N. America houses languages from all over the world, not to mention the Native American language. And, to take an extreme example: 500 - 800 languages are spoken in New Guinea.

The .eu tld is a very valid idea and one that is likely to become increasingly relevant as the EU becomes more and more powerful on the world scene.

My .eu domain lapsed (1)

Richard W.M. Jones (591125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700007)

Funnily enough I just let my old company's .eu domain lapse. They didn't use it for anything, and I'm sure it would just confuse people if they had started to (they keep the .com, of course).

Rich.

Longest .eu domain name (2, Informative)

Arleo (16712) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700013)

The Welsh village with the longest name in the UK is also one of the few domain names that uses all possible 63 characters allowed for a .eu domain name. Check it out at http://llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllan tysiliogogogochuchaf.eu [llanfairpw...chuchaf.eu]

Pointless (1)

FredDC (1048502) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700075)

imho all tld's are pointless. Simeply going to http://slashdot/ [slashdot] or http://games.nintendo/ [games.nintendo] would be much simpler.

All the different tld's like .com, .net, .org, ... are anyway all registered under the same name by the same person. And if they are not, it just causes confusion or it is used for fooling people.

country-based tld's are only there because of nationalism, every country wanted one...

Now-a-days tld's are nothing more than just a way to make money, hence adding new tld's like .tv and .eu which serve no real purpose whatsoever except for getting everyone to register their domain name before someone else does. Which ofcourse results in... Profit!

Re:Pointless (2, Informative)

aslate (675607) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700189)

Hmmn, idea forming. If i were to go to http://slashdot/ [slashdot] i should get all the sites registered at slashdot.tld appear as a list, perhaps with a small preview thumbnail/description. That way i could plainly see that http://www.ati.co.uk/ [ati.co.uk] isn't the site i want whereas http://www.ati.com/ [ati.com] must contain a UK section (under /uk).

I am starting to get to a stage where i'm not sure which TLD i need. With two banks i have online banking facilities. However one has http://www.nationwide.co.uk/ [nationwide.co.uk] whereas the .com is a US site. The other uses/advertises/redirects to http://www.natwest.com/ [natwest.com] (although in this case .co.uk works too).

Re:Pointless (1)

JuanCarlosII (1086993) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700267)

Would it be too difficult (for someone much cleverer than myself of course) to write a Firefox extension to do exactly that?

Re:Pointless (1)

wolf369T (951405) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700715)

Well, in firefox, http://slashdot/ [slashdot] will look-up on Google (or whatever search engine you set as default) and display the first result. Interesting though, If Google searches trough google.com will display first the website closer to me, while typing it on the adress bar will display the .com/.net/.etc domain (for example, I'm from romania, .ro, searching with google.com for "convertor" will display convertor.ro first, but typing "convertor" in the adress bar will point to "http://www.xe.com/ucc/", wich is in the 5th place in the first case).

Re:Pointless (3, Informative)

mccalli (323026) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700259)

country-based tld's are only there because of nationalism, every country wanted one...

Nope. Take a look at, say, Apple. Here's http://apple.com [apple.com] - familiar, right? Here, on the other hand, is http://apple.co.uk [apple.co.uk] - rather different. Within the UK, Apple Design have the rights to use it. Within the US, it's Apple Inc. that have the right. This isn't a bug or nationalism, it's a feature. I like location-specific URLs. I don't use google.com for example, I use google.co.uk.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:Pointless (2, Interesting)

Rocketship Underpant (804162) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700745)

While your point is excellent, that purpose still might be better served with "us.apple" and "uk.apple". In that case, it would be up to Apple how finely to divide up their regional websites. They might decide to build wales.apple and scotland.apple, for example. In addition to ca.apple, they could have qc.apple for Canada's French region.

Re:Pointless (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701181)

And who decides which company called 'Apple' gets to own that name in the first place?

Re:Pointless (1)

zobier (585066) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714405)

While your point is excellent, that purpose still might be better served with "us.apple" and "uk.apple". In that case, it would be up to Apple how finely to divide up their regional websites. They might decide to build wales.apple and scotland.apple, for example. In addition to ca.apple, they could have qc.apple for Canada's French region.
And who decides which company called 'Apple' gets to own that name in the first place?
That would be apple.computer and apple.design then, right? But what if you have a different design company called apple in the UK and the USA...

Re:Pointless (1)

mccalli (323026) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701577)

While your point is excellent, that purpose still might be better served with "us.apple" and "uk.apple".

Indeed, and I completely agree with this. It's the way the UK networks used to be run under JANET (Joint Academic NETwork) in the early nineties. I went to Lancaster University between 1990/1992 - my email address was username@uk.ac.lancs, not username@lancs.ac.uk. Was all switch to internet standard just as I was leaving.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:Pointless (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701889)

You miss the point entirely. In the Apple example, the owners of apple.com and apple.co.uk are different companies. That is fairly common - there are millions of companies worldwide with clashing names where one company owns the ".com" and one or more other companies own various national TLD's suitable for their markets.

Re:Pointless (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700373)

I don't know... I go to a few sites that are site.de, site.at, site.co.uk and I think it helps somewhat.

Just because I'm reading in German doesn't mean the site is in Austria.

But I guess you could do the same thing like wikpedia with en.site, de.site....

Re:Pointless (1)

soilheart (1081051) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700961)

Probably because of there is no internation law on that a company name (for example) can only exist in one country.
If there would be no TLD's then the companies would either fight for the name or be nice and share the domain (but have different subpages). The second alternative just sounds unlikely. And the first isn't really great either. So therefore I think TLD's is pretty good.
Oh, and I like being able to just type dell.se to go to the swedish dell and not having to search on the american page (or get an irritating splashscreen where i have to choose europe->nordic countries->swedish or something like that)

Re:Pointless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700969)

Note that .tv isn't an new TLD like .eu. It belongs to Tuvalu, who just sold the rights.

/.eu (1)

JoeKuboj (918191) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700301)

will we see slashdot.eu ? :)

Re:/.eu (1)

DrogMan (708650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700487)

will we see slashdot.eu ? :)

It was registerd last week by "S Consulting" ... So we may never see it, or they might graciously provide a redirect...

I've registerd 2 .eu's so-far. One for my own domain (because I could) and one for a friend when all the other options had been taken (.me.uk, .co.uk, .org, etc.)

The reason I got a .eu domain (1)

bustersnyvel (562862) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700305)

The reason I got a .eu domain is quite simple: the .nl was already taken, and the owner didn't want to part with it.

Re:The reason I got a .eu domain (1)

rudegeek (966948) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700419)

Thanks for proving my point [slashdot.org] . :-)

EDU spoofs (2, Interesting)

Monoman (8745) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700469)

How many of the EU registrations are clear attempts to catch typos looking for an EDU domain traffic. Some are just typo squatters and some are looking for more ...

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=1866 [sans.org]

Who Cares? It's Europe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18700497)

Who cares about the inbred old guard of Europe. Decrepit, diseased, and bankrupt. Plus, they have France.

There is only one country that matters, when it comes to the Internet. U.S.A.

Most common IS NOT most popular (3, Insightful)

giafly (926567) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700585)

It has become the seventh most popular suffix worldwide
They mean "most common". Claiming .EU is popular because it has high uptake is like saying chlamidia tracomatis (PDF) [guttmacher.org] is the most popular sexually transmitted disease. The real reason companies like mine have registered .EU domains is to defend against cyber-squatting.

eu, or e-who? (1)

Chief Wongoller (1081431) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700683)

What does ".eu" represent: the European Union or Europe in general? Perhaps there should be two new domain suffixes .Eu and .EU (note the case). Is this possible? And what about the EEA (European Economic Area? (This is essentially the EU with some others like Switzerland and Norway).Perhaps there could also be a distinction between the old EU countries such as France and Germany and the new such as Bulgaria and Romania. Maybe .neweu and .oldeu. The possibilities are endless

Lexus.eu: try it (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700891)

So Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus for also choosing an ".eu" address".

Right, load http://lexus.eu./ [lexus.eu.] Immediately redirected to http://www.lexus-europe.com/ [lexus-europe.com] .

That's their best example? What a waste of time. Who actually USES this TLD?

Re:Lexus.eu: try it (1)

duvel (173522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18702601)

That's their best example? What a waste of time. Who actually USES this TLD?


These guys use it extensively: http://www.europa.eu/ [europa.eu] (links to the joined websites of all the European institutions)

Impressive numbers, but only on the surface... (1)

Panaqqa (927615) | more than 7 years ago | (#18700957)

But, things TFA fails to mention include the fact that many speculators bought hundreds or thousands of .EU domains, over 20% of them don't resolve to anything, and within a few weeks, hundreds of thousands of them snapped up in the initial "land rush" will expire.

More about it here [dailydomainer.com] in The Daily Domainer [dailydomainer.com] .

Domain is as badly setup as any other (1)

wildBoar (181352) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701343)

The domain I wanted to register has already been squatted :-(

Apparently there is a nice expensive appeals process if I feel strongly about it - despite the fact that the domain has been idle since registration.

Why are domains not considered important for individuals ...

.ue (1)

Dr. Stavros (808432) | more than 7 years ago | (#18701655)

Now, if only they had had the foresight to name it the Union of Europe, then I could have registered sq.ue, an excellent domain name.

Best regards,

Steve Sque.

What the phuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18702589)

Interesting to see that phuck.eu is already taken and seems to be some kind of "portal". Gets click advertising revenue, I guess, but who's seriously going to use a phuck.eu portal?

How many of them are spamming domains? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704075)

I already know from experience that the main registrar - "eurid.eu" - has been doing business with "Alex Rodrigez", aka "Leo Kuvayev", who sells pirated software and counterfeit drugs for the Russian mob over the internet. I have personally recieved 25 spam emails from his domains that have been registered in .eu namespace.
Combine that with the non-existent customer service from said registrar, and we have the dawn of a new spammer heaven.

it's natural not to see .ue domains (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18707035)

Therea are about 75 mil com+net domains that have been
out there for an average of 10 years perhaps.

2.5 / (75 * 10) = 0.003

So, for 300 .com or .net pages there will
be an .eu one. Naturaly, you will rarely notice
them, even if you look for them.

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