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Final Version of Wii Browser Now Available

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the enjoy-your-www-button dept.

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CVG points out that, as of today, the final version of the Wii Opera browser is available for download. Make sure and do the update sometime in the next month or so; as you might recall from the original announcement, it will only be free until the end of June. "You can finally ditch the trial version of the Opera browser and download the full and final package, which comes with added features, such as 'www.' and '.com' buttons as well as improved functionality like a faster boot-up and better zoom capability. You can download it right now for free, first by updating your system, then grabbing the update from the Wii Software page on the Shop Channel."

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List of new stuff (5, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18703943)

  • More advanced zoom. You can zoom in extremely close, or extremely far out.
  • Crisper fonts due to updated font rendering technology.
  • Optimized for faster browsing and video game playing. (Seriously!)
  • Other WiiMote cursors are now visible. They cannot interact with pages, but they can be used as laser pointer replacements.
  • Scrolling has been improved with the arrows only showing while scrolling and a line showing how fast you're dragging.
  • The arrow keys now scroll rather than navigating.
  • The so-called "A-button cooldown effect" has been fixed. This was the bug that prevented rapid clicking.
  • There are now settings for Proxies and other browser features.
  • The toolbar has been updated with easy access to the URL entry, search, and page information.
  • The toolbar can now be hidden.
  • Cursors have been updated with nicer loading and clicking effects.
  • Sounds are now associated with events like clicking and loading.
  • The browser now fills the entire screen. You can change the scaling if the browser is clipped.

It's not final, still labeled trial (1, Informative)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704217)

I pulled it down yesterday when Nintendo sent out the notice to Wii's using Connect24. They indicated it was a new version of the trial browser. Nowhere did I see it branded as the final release.

Re:It's not final, still labeled trial (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704381)

It shouldn't be.

From Opera: Today Opera Software and Nintendo released the much-anticipated full version of the Internet Channel, powered by the Opera browser. [opera.com]

Nor do I see the words trial anywhere on it. Here's a video showing the same thing I see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6FI5usclV4 [youtube.com]

Q: Did you remember to do the Wii Update before you redownloaded the Opera browser?

Also, Opera doesn't brand this as the "Final" release. In press releases, they're calling it the "Full" version, because there could be updates in the future.

Re:It's not final, still labeled trial (2, Informative)

The Moof (859402) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705747)

After you run the system update, go to the Wii Shop Channel. There is an upgrade available for the Internet Channel making it the full version.

Re:It's not final, still labeled trial (1)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706237)

I look at it again when I get home. I ran the update last night before going to bed, but I did delete the older one before hand so I wouldn't mix anything up. Hmmm....

Nope it was trial, but it's final now... (1)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712283)

Ok, so I apparently must have jumped the gun on the update I downloaded or the server I pulled it from hadn't been updated yet? What I downloaded last night was a newer trial edition (the blues were darker than the initial release). Today what I pulled was the final version. Weird.

Re:List of new stuff (1)

Kuvter (882697) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704409)

I always had trouble with flash videos and wmv's playing.

I'd like to know if they've patched this in the new version so sites with those elements work better?

Re:List of new stuff (3, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704455)

I always had trouble with flash videos and wmv's playing.

Flash players based on Flash Version 7 work fine. (Adobe refuses to license version 8.) They've actually gotten slightly better thanks to Opera's optimizations.

The browser does not have a media player, nor are there plans for one. I believe they're going to support standard audio files (i.e. WAV; if it hasn't been added already), but that's about it. I wouldn't hold your breath for WMV support.

Besides, WMV sucks. :P

Re:List of new stuff (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709743)

Besides, WMV sucks. :P
But then how can I watch porn on my Wii? Everyone knows that 99% of porn videos on the internet are in WMV format for some reason...

Re:List of new stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18715671)

Pornotube!

Re:List of new stuff, or what is most important (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704517)

More advanced zoom. You can zoom in extremely close, or extremely far out. - Very critical!

Crisper fonts due to updated font rendering technology. - hmm, ok

Optimized for faster browsing and video game playing. (Seriously!) - Monty Python Tetris here i come! (Bring Out Your Dead!)

Other WiiMote cursors are now visible. They cannot interact with pages, but they can be used as laser pointer replacements. - ok

Scrolling has been improved with the arrows only showing while scrolling and a line showing how fast you're dragging. - very important!

The arrow keys now scroll rather than navigating. - I was wondering if they'd clue in about that.

The so-called "A-button cooldown effect" has been fixed. This was the bug that prevented rapid clicking. - now I can skip thru long boring WH speeches ... to get to the big lies!

There are now settings for Proxies and other browser features. -ok

The toolbar has been updated with easy access to the URL entry, search, and page information. - good, took forever to do it on a Wii keyboard

The toolbar can now be hidden. - CRITICAL - since the screen is not that big

Cursors have been updated with nicer loading and clicking effects. -ok

Sounds are now associated with events like clicking and loading. - wish we could edit them to be Ni! Bing! I say!

The browser now fills the entire screen. You can change the scaling if the browser is clipped. - CRITICAL!!

Re:List of new stuff, or what is most important (0, Offtopic)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704717)

Monty Python Tetris here i come! (Bring Out Your Dead!) I thought this was PC cdrom. There is a web version of it? I sure can't find it?!!

Please help!

Re:List of new stuff, or what is most important (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705229)

Well, I have it on CD-ROM, and even ran it on WinXP on my laptop, but I keep hoping someone will make it a web-enabled game where each time you get a row of decomposed bodies, a donation of $1 goes to Darfur.

One can dream. In fact, I have a song about that!

Re:List of new stuff *WOW* (1)

Some_Llama (763766) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704859)

It seems like EVERYTHING i complained (to my wife, who ignored me) about when using the beta has been fixed or changed.. this is great! Now I can watch online vids of Robot Chicken without being frustrated by the crude control scheme.

GJ nintendo.

Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18703949)

It should be open source so that THE COMMUNITY can improve it.
Or is nintendo hiding something from us? Namely THE SOURCE

I only use Open Source Software and YOU should TOO!!!

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (3, Insightful)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704095)

Um, because they don't want people being able to hack the virtual console, and possibly hack into other people's Wiis and steal their points, or some such?

And by saying you only use Open Source software, that means you don't use any consoles, because none of them are open source. Or use blue ray disks, or HD disks, or office products, or most websites...

Open source zealots really need to be better informed before they go off on these rants, makes the rest of you intelligent OSS people look bad.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (4, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704561)

or office products

It's true. I have been having a really hard time getting full blueprints for my stapler.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705141)

Security through obscurity does not work. The reason that they don't open the source has nothing to do with that and everything to do with making money. They don't want someone to be able to make a WiiPC and skip their hardware altogether. Unlike the other console makers, Nintendo make s a profit on each and every console sold.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (1)

luomat (897806) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706945)

> Security through obscurity does not work.

You're right. Please post your account username and password along with your social security number, bank number, and routing number to this forum to express your outrage that someone might think such a thing.

> The reason that they don't open the source has nothing to do with that and
> everything to do with making money. They don't want someone to be able to
> make a WiiPC and skip their hardware altogether. Unlike the other console
> makers, Nintendo make s a profit on each and every console sold.

Yeah, those lousy bastards actually want to be PAID for their WORK when we all know that everything in the world ought to be free. And I would like a pony.

Your overdeveloped sense of entitlement is not a business plan.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#18708587)

I think you're a bit confused. 'Security through obscurity' has to do with software, not personal data. It has to do with obtaining personal data through bugs/holes in the software, not by someone posting that info on a forum. If you think asking for my password makes you a hacker, I'm not only not scared of anything you could ever do, but I'm happy to know that fast food restaurants will always have plenty of employees.

Also, I never said that earning a buck was a bad thing. You simply assumed I was like the drooling FOSS fanboys. Nintendo's reasoning is sound and correct. It just has absolutely nothing to do with hacking and everything to do with money. I'll say it again, so you don't get confused about that: Earning money is not evil. There is plenty of room in this world for Nintendo, me, and every other programmer that wants to earn money at it, as well as everyone who wants to donate their hard work to the free software movement. I'll even be doing some of it myself in the future. The 2 things are not mutually exclusive, not even in the tiny minds of human beings.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18707937)

Unlike the other console makers, Nintendo make s a profit on each and every console sold.

MS makes a profit on the 360.

Re:Why isnt it (F)ree as in FREEDOM (1)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18708015)

Actually, security through obscurity does work, against a significant number of potential hackers (80% or more). The more determined ones are going to be doing it anyway, but it at least stops the clumsy hackers. I'd rather have 50 hackers having cracked the Wii protection than 500.

If that's the case, hopefully you'll never need... (1)

bluemonq (812827) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705053)

...one of the newer pacemakers models that are made nowadays.

Next month or so, Zonk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704049)

It's mid-April! They've got 2.5 months until the end of June.

Re:Next month or so, Zonk? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704127)

It's mid-April! They've got 2.5 months until the end of June.

Yeah, Zonk has a bad floppy on this one. The final version was originally going to be released on March 16th. It was then pushed back to March 30th. Then (a few days before it was supposed to be released) it was pushed back to "sometime in April". Well, it's "sometime in April", so I'm not surprised that it's here. :P

Re:Next month or so, Zonk? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704181)

Oh, I almost forgot to mention what *is* in June. June is the release date for multiplayer gaming on the Wii. The Japanese already have it with Pokemon, and the Brits are getting it soon. That leaves us Yanks as the only ones left playing with ourselves. :(

It has to be said... (1)

p4rri11iz3r (1084543) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704839)

WHAT? Video game players playing with their Wii by themselves? Surely this must be a first.

Save the kiddies! (2, Interesting)

Philomathie (937829) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704081)

So how long do you think it will be before an inebriated collection of soccer-moms bands together and attacks Nintendo of America for trying to sell these consoles complete with "porn-access" (a.k.a. an internet connection) to their kids...

Re:Save the kiddies! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704177)

They have added a new Parental Controls feature to the thing, you know. Yes, I know, "personal responsibility" is an unknown concept in the U S of A, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Re:Save the kiddies! (1)

zeromusmog (260817) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704191)

Um, it's already happened? There was some brohuahua about it a month or two ago right here on slashdot

Re:Save the kiddies! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704685)

The firmware update adds Parental Controls to the browser.

Re:Save the kiddies! (4, Funny)

Kimos (859729) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704797)

Wow!
It's like you can see into the past [slashdot.org] !

Re:Save the kiddies! (1)

cHALiTO (101461) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706273)

Funny that you mention it, because one of the things updated when you run the 'update' option (before actually downloading the full version of opera) is the parental control thingy, apparently to be able to use it to control the Internet Channel.
I haven't tried it tho.. I have no use for that kind of thing, but your soccer moms might like it.

Still can't get one (4, Funny)

CokeBear (16811) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704135)

Great! Now all I need is a Wii!

(Still searching for one in Toronto)

Re:Still can't get one (1)

Bonewalker (631203) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705001)

Ditto, but in Kansas. They are nowhere to be found, and I hear shortages are going to continue because of unprecedented demand. Dang it.

Re:Still can't get one (1)

mconeone (765767) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705771)

I live in Michigan, but I got mine a week ago from a wal-mart in Wichita. I was lucky, they were carrying out one as I had just turned to leave.

Re:Still can't get one (1)

Bonewalker (631203) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705885)

Lucky.

(Napoleon Dynamite's voice)

Re:Still can't get one (1)

vorpal22 (114901) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705597)

Check out the forums at redflagdeals.com. They have heads up on stores in the GTA receiving them. That's how I got mine at Toys 'R Us a couple months back.

Re:Still can't get one (1)

mario64 (573112) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706187)

Just a quick reply, using the updated browser on my Wii....

Re:Still can't get one (1)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706255)

Try the "Great Canadian Superstore", those giant rebranded Loblaws grocery stores.

I found one in St. Thomas (just outside london) when I checked out their electronics department. People couldn't get them at the local EBs or Wal-marts, but nobody was thinking to check a grocery store.

Re:Still can't get one (1)

mightyQuin (1021045) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713019)

I got mine 3 weeks ago at an EB Games in Winnipeg - I was 12th in line for 18 units. sweet!

Unfortunately, no extra nunchuck (gad, I hate saying that word wrt a controller) yet.

I grabbed the updated browser tonight after reading this story and I agree that the control (especially zoom) is greatly improved. - I am impressed.

Yay (1)

LBt1st (709520) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704299)

Now if only I could disable those new sounds.
B-Button scrolling is a bit too sensitive. I liked it better before. D-Pad scrolling is a nice alternative though.
Opening the address bar does not open it with the current URL. That would have been nice.
It would also be nice if it would make plain text URL's into links. Manual entry is hell without a keyboard.
New font features kick ass! Text is MUCH easier to read now!

Re:Yay (3, Interesting)

Erioll (229536) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704373)

Does the new text rendering also go into things like the news reader and Wii Shop? The text there could use some work too.

Re:Yay (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#18707057)

No, unless the Wii firmware update that you had to do has some text updates, I doubt there's been any change. However, I would say that the News channel always had pretty good text, the Internet channel now matches the News channel's quality. If you're having problems, you should probably get a componant video cable, if that's an option for you... 480p looks A LOT BETTER.

Re:Yay (1)

Erioll (229536) | more than 7 years ago | (#18710943)

If you're having problems, you should probably get a componant video cable, if that's an option for you... 480p looks A LOT BETTER.
I run my Wii through component into a 1080p LCD. ;)

Re:Yay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18706737)

There does exist a keyboard/controller device originally intended to be used with the GC version of Phantasy Star Online... You could probably just get one used and use that for text entry and non-motion sensing navigation.

http://archive.gamespy.com/e32002/special/e3pics01 /DSC00019.jpg [gamespy.com]

I know several friends who purchased these devices...

Fortunately, my 360 allows me to use any USB keyboard I want.

got it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704311)

I got this earlier today, its a shame that there are no tabs though... Still it works ok, nothing compared to a browser on a computer. Being able to use a real mouse and keybored might make it a bit better but ultimately pretty much everyone has a computer.

Also, if you have a large TV (mine is 32") it can look a bit crappy when you are close enough to have good control over the pointer - but I can't really complain

First twofo goatse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704317)

http://goatse.ch/ [http://goatse.ch] [twofo.co.uk] [twofo.co.uk] [goatse.ch]

www. and .com buttons? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704329)

Every report on this mentions magical new buttons for quickly entering "www." and ".com", but I see no such thing. I did the update last night and assumed they would appear as buttons on the onscreen keyboard, but I don't see them. On a hunch I tried entering just "google" as an address, and it helpfully took me to "www.google.com". Nice, but not the same as "having buttons" as everyone keeps mentioning.

My question is (1)

jdc180 (125863) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704445)

Who's going to pay for it?

Re:My question is (1)

mconeone (765767) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704539)

People without a computer, but... with an internet connection... people stealing their neighbor's wireless?

Re:My question is (1)

goodenoughnickname (874664) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705711)

All the suckers who laughed at me for waiting in line on launch day.

Two Things (0, Troll)

EXTomar (78739) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704487)

1. Does Youtube work? Does it handle streaming audio/video? I haven't found anyone who will (or can, see #2) comment on it. If not "interesting" but meaningless if some of the best reasons to browse stuff on a TV doesn't work. No one is dying to read /. on their Wii.

2. When will Nintendo get around to actually selling people a Wii? Again these features are "interesting" but entirely meaningless if too few people actually have to hardware to enjoy it.

Re:Two Things (4, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704595)

YouTube works. I've used it. In fact, I heard that was one of the original reasons the browser beta was delayed was so they could update flash and make YouTube work.

They are selling people Wiis. That is just a troll comment. The fact they are so popular they can't produce them fast enough is not Nintendo's fault.

Re:Two Things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704675)

They are selling people Wiis. That is just a troll comment. The fact they are so popular they can't produce them fast enough is not Nintendo's fault.


Well, technically, it really is Nintendo's fault. If they'd made a crapass console, they wouldn't be popular and you'd fine shelves filled with them everywhere. So ya, Nintendo is to blame. ;-)

Re:Two Things (1)

Necreia (954727) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705291)

"They are selling people Wiis. That is just a troll comment. The fact they are so popular they can't produce them fast enough is not Nintendo's fault."

While I'm all pro-Wii... this statement is false. Nintendo not being able to keep up with demand is their fault.

If customers want more products than you can produce, restructure to produce more.

Re:Two Things (3, Informative)

gasgesgos (603192) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704713)

One of the major things I use the Wii browser for is Youtube, it works pretty well. Also wiiarcade.com has a handful of games that will work well with the Wii remote. I haven't tried other streaming sites, but I imagine that they would work as well (provided they use flash and not WMP). One warning, it seems that the browser only supports up to Flash 7.

Re:Two Things (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704919)

Also wiiarcade.com has a handful of games that will work well with the Wii remote.

I don't think you really want to be sending people to WiiArcade. As you said, they have a handful of games. WiiCade.com has all the same games, plus some good ones, plus games that actually use the gamepad functionality. (As opposed to mouse-only games.) About 300-some games altogether. (At least, if you believe the game ids.)

Another great site to visit is video.stumbleupon.com [stumbleupon.com] . They have YouTube videos organized as channels. You can use the Wii Remote's DPad to skip and rate videos.

Last, but not least, FineTune [finetune.com] has a nice Wii interface for playing Muzak. In case you're nowhere near an elevator. :P

Re:Two Things (1)

Whyte Panther (868438) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705077)

While YouTube worked on the original release, it occasionally failed to load the whole video, and it was not possible to refresh/reload to get it to work. I haven't had the chance to put the update through it's paces yet, so hopefully that has been worked out.

Re:Two Things (1)

George Michael (467827) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704735)

1. It handles YouTube great. Doesn't handle MySpace video, or NBC.com or ABC.com (at least for me). Which sucks because I was really looking forward to catching up on old episodes of Heroes and future episodes of Andy Barker on my TV (gf won't watch with me on my computer).

Based solely on what I've read in this thread, I'm guessing it's the Flash version that's the problem, though some of these sites might also not support Opera in general; I don't know.

Re:Two Things (1)

LoverOfJoy (820058) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705265)

NBC doesn't mix well with Opera in general. I normally use Opera on my laptop but I had to open up IE to watch past Heroes episodes.

Re:Two Things (1)

ADRA (37398) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704805)

I did some Google video. I think it wasn't instant-play like my regular PC is, but it was still quite usable for video watching. It isn't a replacement for my home theater PC, but for those looking for a cheap and easy to setup browser for the living room, this will fulfill that need.

Re:Two Things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704837)

Yes, Youtube works wonderfully, especially in this latest version. You can even zoom in on the movie file so that it fills almost your entire screen and it still looks good. There's a lot of other good stuff to use the browser for besides just movie clips. Wiicade and Finetune are both very nifty and fun.

Re:Two Things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704961)

I seem to recall that Youtube works. I tried Myspace yesterday, and that works.

Flash based streaming works. If only for the love of jebus mp3 streaming would work. Didn't get a chance to try it with the new update, but I doubt it does.

Re:Two Things (1)

edflyerssn007 (897318) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704997)

youtube worked with the original version. I haven't updated since i got the browser beginning of January, and was able to use Youtube without a problem.

Re:Two Things. 1.) YouTube works and... (2, Informative)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705279)

1. Does Youtube work?

YouTube (and google video) has worked since the beta in December. There was even a site [wiitoob.com] created to help autoformat it so all videos display nicer on the Wii. This is just a front end to YouTube's site so you can bypass it if you don't care for how they are formatting it. Of note Strongbad, [homestarrunner.com] and Foamy [illwillpress.com] work great too.

Does it handle streaming audio/video?

The beta didn't do shoutcast, but I have been using Finetune [finetune.com] for quite some time.

Re:Two Things (1)

LionKimbro (200000) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705409)

1. Yes, YouTube works. It works *great.*

My favorites page is full of YouTube videos that I like to share with guests, friends.

2. Get in line at 4AM, like I did, and they'll sell you one. :)

Re:Two Things (1)

Dionysos Taltos (980090) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705567)

I have a Wii and have previously tried out the beta Opera browser on it. I have viewed on-line videos streamed through the Wii, I don't remember if it was YouTube or Apple's QuickTime movie trailers though.

Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (2, Insightful)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704615)

The free-until-June deal originally seemed awesome. Until I realized that every store around here still sells out the Wii instantly the moment they have any in stock.

There's a good chance that by the time the deal expires in June, it will still be almost impossible to find a Wii, and those of us that have been TRYING to buy one since launch day will have been screwed by Opera for not adjusting their deal to account for this problem.

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (1)

PhotoJim (813785) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704847)

500 Wii points is only $5. If you can't find a Wii before the free download of Opera is gone, just pay the $5. I bet lots of people would overpay for a Wii by a lot more than $5 to get one today. Luckily I didn't have to.

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18705197)

If you don't have a Wii yet, you are just lazy. It's April already. you've had 5 months. I got mine on December 06th, 2006. walmart sells them every sunday morning, don't they? At this point you shouldn't have to get there too many hours before opening. or you could stalk a gamestop every morning, they get shipments in around 9 or 10 with UPS, a few times a week.

There are lots of way to score a wii either at retail, or online. You can even buy them pre-modded with wiikeys.

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#18708013)

I would like to learn more about this "pre-modded" of which you speak. Is there a wiikey wiki?

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (1)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709799)

Just lazy, eh? Showing up to multiple stores once or twice a week to buy the thing is hardly lazy. The problem is that any store that gets them sells out within minutes.

Walmart might be a good bet, except they almost certainly don't get their shipments at the same time as they do in the US. I've heard rumors they get them Tuesday mornings... while I'm at work.

We don't have GameStop in Montreal. Or in Canada, I'd imagine. And my local EB Games Boutique has had a sign up in the window for the past five months that says, roughly translated from French, "Wii out of stock indefinitely."

I've been poking around other stores too, no luck. It isn't so easy when none of the stores actually know when shipments are going to arrive. They arrive randomly, in very small quantities.

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (2, Informative)

SighKoPath (956085) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705263)

Get friendly with the people at wal-mart. Learn when they normally get their shipments, how often they come, how many they get, and what time the sale of new shipments starts.

For example, I learned that my local wal-mart ALWAYS gets them in on Sundays, and they start selling at 8 am. Also, they do not put 'em out in electronics, but hide them over in Customer Service. As soon as I learned this, I was there the next Sunday morning at 9:30. They had 4 Wiis sitting there in the counter in CS (out of 5 received that day). I walked out with one, then went over to electronics to pick up some games, and directed a few people over to CS. They came back and thanked me after.

It's all about asking the right questions of the people who know the answers.

Re:Free until June - unless you can't get a Wii. (1)

cHALiTO (101461) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706465)

Good piece of advice.

If the people at the store doesn't seem friendly, you can also do it Corleone style: grease the right hand to give you a call when the next shipment arrives ;)

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18705809)

Just go online to Costco [costco.com] or WalMart or Target or where ever and buy it online.

It will ship within days.

Problem solved.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18706261)

CostCo and Target don't have the system online, just games, and WalMart's bundle is sold out. Same problem as before, have to be in the right place at the right time.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709519)

No, you can buy the full Costco bundle - I think it's the Wii system, two controllers (both Wii-mote and nunchuk), Zelda: TP, Excite Truck, and I think another cool game.

Online.

At least you can in Seattle.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709495)

Right. You obviously never bothered to check if any of those stores even SELL the Wii online.

Costco (US): Doesn't sell the Wii console itself
Costco (Canada): Doesn't sell the Wii console itself
Walmart (US): Only has the $600 bundle. Sold out.
Walmart (Canada): Doesn't sell the Wii console itself.
Target (US): Doesn't sell the Wii console itself.
Target (Canada): There is no Target in Canada.

What was that about problem solved? You'll see the same situation at pretty much any online store. If they carry it, they're out of stock.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (0)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709601)

Found it at Costco

Is it This [costco.com] ?

Just keep checking Toys and Games - Special Deals and One-time Offers. It was online for at least 90 days.

You snooze. You ... what? sorry, I was asleep.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 7 years ago | (#18709877)

Found it at Costco

Is it This?


Hello Kitty® 128MB MP3 Player? No. That's not it.

Just keep checking Toys and Games - Special Deals and One-time Offers. It was online for at least 90 days.

costco.ca doesn't have that section. And on costco.com (which probably doesn't ship to Canada anyhow), it's actually "New Items & Limited Time Offers", not "Special Deals and One-time Offers".

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#18710371)

or, it might be regionally coded, and show different things to different people, from a .apx file - hmmm, maybe in the South it says "Newfangled Stuff and Things Your Ma Won't Like" or something like that ...

In fact, availability might be impacted by other factors.

Re:Free until June - but you CAN get a Wii (1)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 7 years ago | (#18711713)

This "sold-out" malarkey is alien to me, I pre-ordered mine in October, and picked it up 2/3 days after launch and have been enjoying it ever since (with a brief hiatus due to a bad back..:)

Are there any U.K.-ians who are having trouble getting hold of a Wii? Or is it just in the US? I know there were shortages here shortly after launch, but is it still a problem?

Screwed by Opera? (1)

Generic Player (1014797) | more than 7 years ago | (#18711741)

You mean screwed by Nintendo. Opera has nothing to do with it, they just licensed their browser to Nintendo. Nintendo is the one choosing how much to charge for it, how long to offer it free, etc.

Most important new feature... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704659)

...you can now watch movies on Youtube.

No Java support? (1)

dgym (584252) | more than 7 years ago | (#18704875)

The new zooming is a welcome feature, previously I had to adapt my games site to be a better size for displaying on the Wii, but now that is much less of an issue.

Its a real shame that there hasn't been any mention of Java support though, a JVM (and preferably Flash 9.0 too) would have made this far more useful just because of all the content currently out there. If it had featured a fast JVM with an API for the WiiMote this could have sparked off a huge wave of homebrew developments. This is possible with the current support for Flash 7.0, but both have their advantages so why be forced into just one?

Its a shame this won't remain free, the Wii shortage is bad enough already without some people being hurried into getting their console even sooner. In the mean time this is a very attractively priced internet appliance, and with some great games too, bargain!

Re:No Java support? (1)

SpaceNerd04 (1012835) | more than 7 years ago | (#18707231)

www.wiicade.com They developed a really nice API for use with the Wii-mote. There are quite a few homebrew games up already (some damn good ones in fact), and they play quite nicely on the Wii browser.

June? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18704903)

So I'm not fully confident that I'll be able to find a Wii by June. Is there any way I can download the browser now and hold onto it until I can get a Wii?

Re:June? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706331)

So I'm not fully confident that I'll be able to find a Wii by June. Is there any way I can download the browser now and hold onto it until I can get a Wii?
Yes.

Re:June? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18710159)

Ok, and how?

Re:June? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 7 years ago | (#18710309)

Ok, and how?
Without going into too much detail, you could in theory:

Use a fake user agent on the wii shop channel site, such as "Opera/9.00 (Wii; U; ; 1038-58; Wii Shop Channel/1.0; en)"

Download update in question to disk.

Later when you get a Wii, run a local DNS server and reroute the DNS entry for the Wii shop channel to your local webserver with a page that contains the file.

Tell the Wii the DNS server is that one, open the Wii shop channel on the Wii, which should show your page and download that update.

Downloaded it this morning . . . (1)

Badgerman (19207) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706411)

I'd say overall it's quite an improvement - it really takes it from a useful oddity to a full-scale tool. My takes:
  • The scrolling takes a bit of getting used to, but it definitely works better, and the precise scrolling works very nicely.
  • Resolution seems better.
  • Definitely faster.
  • I saw no hangups this time.
  • More useful layouts and controls.


Now, if there was just a keyboard for the Wii . . .

USB Keyboard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18708889)

Now, if there was just a keyboard for the Wii . . .
Perhaps a silly question, but I've never seen any one mention it:

Doesn't a standard USB keyboard work on it?

D.

Wiis in the UK (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#18706605)

Gamestation's website (google it, not link whoring) has a "news letter" type sign up for the wii. They will tell you 48 hours in advance of when they put the Wii on their website to order. This is how I got mine the first time I was told they had some in stock.

It's not hard, just requires a little planning.

It works! I'm using it now! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18707291)

It works great, but it has taken me 10 minutes to type this post on the Wii's virtual keyboard!

And that CAPTCHA is a bitch to get right, too. You have to zoom in on it to be able to read it, and you can't look at it while typing because tge virtual keyboard takes up the whole screen.

Doesn't seem to use Nintendo's proxies, either (2, Informative)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 7 years ago | (#18711453)

I was kind of nervous at first that outgoing requests would be sent to Nintendo, who would fetch the page and return a pre-digested version, ala WebTV. I was pleasantly surprised to see from my own server logs, though, that my Wii was directly connecting to remote hosts without going through any proxy. That makes me feel infinitely more comfortable about using it to access my webmail, online banking, etc.

Just throwing that out there for anyone else who had the same concerns.

Tabs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713157)

Whatever happened to tabbed browsing? Wasn't that in the original plans for the browser?

Wii as a poor man's media player? (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713455)

I have a few dozen gigs of MP3s on my FreeBSD server. I'd like to run a program that compiles a set of HTML files linking to those MP3s, probably in an iPod-esque setup; click the top-level "Artists" link, choose an artist, and get a list of their MP3s. The goal of this, of course, being to have easy access to my music collection even when lounging around in the living room. If my Wii can play Youtube videos perfectly well (and it can), I'm sure it can manage to play an MP3 from another host on the same LAN.

Does such an application already exist, or is it hacking time?

Re:Wii as a poor man's media player? (1)

seebs (15766) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715479)

The half-assed MP3 collection program I made creates a "links" directory full of symlinks to albums and their songs; it would be pretty easy to adapt.

What'd be lacking is a way to hint "and then go to the next song".

It works (1)

Kuvter (882697) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714065)

This post was done with the wiimote. Certain pages however still don't work well. The auto word finisher works great.
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