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AMD Donates Servers to Groklaw

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the uncruel-twists-of-fate dept.

AMD 64

Core 2 Duo writes "Apparently, someone at AMD noticed that Groklaw has been having trouble running on the old IBM servers ibiblio uses, so they donated two powerful AMD Opteron servers to ibiblio specifically for Groklaw's use. Curiously, this means that Groklaw is no longer hosted by IBM's servers, but SCO's own investor relations website is."

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Hey Cowboy Neal (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18712713)

the advertising section is here [slashdot.org]

Re:Hey Cowboy Neal (0, Offtopic)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712969)

How long has that been there?

It's official (5, Funny)

twenex27 (1004369) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712755)

The anti-SCO funding conspiracy has widened to include IBM, AMD, *and* SCO!

Re:It's official (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18712835)

Is this the same AMD that got adequacy [adequacy.org] taken down for their investigative journalism?
Not surprised to see them supporting law and order!!!

Re:It's official (1, Insightful)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712941)

This sort of story is tiresome enough when its anti-Microsoft weenie-ism.

Do we really need to start a new weenie-ism here?

Re:It's official (3, Funny)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713025)

Hey, get back on topic with the anti-SCO weenie-ism, psh what are you doing?

Re:It's official (3, Interesting)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715163)

This sort of story is tiresome enough when its anti-Microsoft weenie-ism.

But ant-Sco weenie-ism is anti-Microsoft weenie-ism.

Who do you reckon's behind all this, after all?

Re:It's official (1)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 7 years ago | (#18721119)

This isn't anti-Sco its a footling quibble about the brand of servers Groklaw is using this week.

If I was IBM I would not want to be giving gifts to Groklaw at the moment and if I was Groklaw I would not want to be taking them. Its too much of a conflict.

Re:It's official (4, Funny)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713131)

Now I get it, AMD is a front for IBM!

Re:It's official (3, Funny)

richlv (778496) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715439)

but, but... amd implements drm. they have ati, which has crappy drivers in linux. but they donate servers to groklaw.
now, how should i politically motivate my buying decisions ? i shoud run around frantically now...

Re:It's official (2, Funny)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716431)

Oh thats nothing, guess what? IBM ship servers that have *shock, horror* Windows Server 2003!!! I guess that means that Microsoft is a front for IBM against SCO as well!!

Re:It's official (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 7 years ago | (#18722069)

Don't forget that IBM makes the CPUs for the Sony Playstation 3, the Microsoft Xbox 360, and the Nintendo Wii. Aiee, the confusion!!

ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713163)

If you don't know what Cmd-Shift-1 and Cmd-Shift-2 are for, GTFO.
If you think Firefox is a decent Mac application, GTFO.
If you're still looking for the "maximize" button, GTFO.
If the name "Clarus" means nothing to you, GTFO.

Bandwagon jumpers are not welcome among real Mac users [atspace.com] . Keep your filthy PC fingers to yourself.

Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18714403)

Mmmm. Filthy PC fingers.

Seriously, if you don't have a dick, GTFO. You goddam pagan Mac fags piss me off.

Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18714453)

"You goddam pagan Mac fags piss me off."

Proving once again that PC users are Bible-thumping, "pagan"-resenting yahoos stuck in the '80s, when it used to be an insult to call someone gay.

Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18717185)

...when it used to be an insult to call someone gay.

But, "Mac user" is still something I use to call gay people.

AMD Donates Servers to Groklaw (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18712799)

SCO's "investor" relations website?

I don't think that there's very many "investors" in SCO any more. Perhaps the server space could be put to better use :-)

Neil

Re:AMD Donates Servers to Groklaw (1)

MonteCarlo (99181) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712865)

Does anyone besides me think this is a very good thing? I mean come.... SCO?

OMG! (3, Interesting)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712929)

Yeah, and the Swift Boat Veterans use Apache [domaintools.com] .

It's like the world is upside down!



Please engage sense of humor before flaming. Sheeze.

Re:OMG! (4, Funny)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713851)

I can't remember what the Slashdot Party Line is on the Swift Boat Veterans. Are they anti-Kerry and thus pro-Bush and thus bad? Anti-Kerry and thus good? Pro-truth and good? Pro-lie and bad? Just plain weird?

Re:OMG! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18714203)

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Re:OMG! (2, Interesting)

corbettw (214229) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714313)

Well, you got marked Flamebait when you simply asked a question and didn't use any inflammatory language, so it looks like the consensus is they're bad. Which is lame, since all they did was expand on the truth of Kerry's military service and talk about their recollections of what kind of officer and sailor he had been. Still odd how much the Left in this world hates people who tell the truth.

Re:OMG! (1, Troll)

Darby (84953) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714651)

Still odd how much the Left in this world hates people who tell the truth.

Yet the actual, demonstrated fact is that they were lying sacks of shit. All you've managed to demonstrate is the entirely Orwellian "argument" line of the Republican party, which none but the dumbest of our species gives any credence to at this point (and only one step up from that has done in decades) given the total lack of anything worthwhile coming out of those biggest government douchebags since they pissed away all their stated beliefs once they rejected Goldwater in favor of absolute corruption.
Seriously, only cowards traitors and fools are left in that most corrupt party. I defy you to come up with an argument for being a Republican that doesn't fall into one or more of those.
Go on, I dare you to even try. You will fail completely and you damn well know it.

Swiftboats?!? That is the best fucking you have to make a pathetic and deeply dishonest defense of?!?

You sick subhuman animals have completely lost it, haven't you?

Re:OMG! (4, Funny)

mclaincausey (777353) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714759)

It's true: reality has a left-wing bias. Don't allow reality and facts to brainwash you with their bias: disregard the parent and indulge in hate- and fear-fueled delusion!

Re:OMG! (1)

Darby (84953) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715633)

It's true: reality has a left-wing bias. Don't allow reality and facts to brainwash you with their bias: disregard the parent and indulge in hate- and fear-fueled delusion!

Indeed!
Buy into the bullshit that speaking honestly makes you a Leftist.

I hate to put facts into such a silly spouting of nonsense ;-) but I hate the left almost as much as I hate the right.

How about all of you bitches deal with your own shit and stay the fuck out of my business and most especially out of my personal life.

Re: Stephen? (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716535)

Stephen? Stephen Colbert? Is that you?

Your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18716243)

Your sig is illegal if you are in the US. It falls under 'inciting violence' and is thus not protected speech. It does however show you for what you are; a typical rabid liberal who wants to kill anyone who doesn't agree with him.

Re:Your sig (2)

Darby (84953) | more than 7 years ago | (#18721257)

Your sig is illegal if you are in the US.

No shit, Sherlock.

It falls under 'inciting violence' and is thus not protected speech.

It falls under civil disobediance. Cowardly treasonous murdering scum need to be dealt with on their own terms. Rational discussion is beyond them, basic decency is beyond them, and even honesty has been proven to be completely beyond these scum. Do you have any actual workable suggestions as to how to deal with that pack of traitors dedicated to the destruction of liberty in this country?

It does however show you for what you are; a typical rabid liberal who wants to kill anyone who doesn't agree with him.

Wow, you're an idiot.
Disagreement is fine.
Terrorism, destruction of liberty, mass murder, theft on a massive scale, and the blatant obvious scam (which a child could see through if they had the integrity to look) that was the entire basis for pissing away billions in Iraq are the crimes for which anybody who is evil enough to still describe themselves as a Republican are capital offenses.
I'm on the side of law and order in this one Sparky.
I don't really care for the Dems all that much either, but there is no comparison. No person with any decency, integrity or morality could possibly be a Republican. Those are the things that they are most violently opposed to.

Re:OMG! (0, Flamebait)

SQLz (564901) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715451)

Err, I thought that is was general knowledge that the swift boat veterans were full of shit. Damn midwest posters, at it again.

Re:OMG! (2, Funny)

Curtman (556920) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716335)

Well, you got marked Flamebait when you simply asked a question and didn't use any inflammatory language, so it looks like the consensus is they're bad.

Did you miss his vicious attack on our tradition of groupthink? Clearly he must be stopped or Slashdot is doomed.

I'd donate some servers to SCO (5, Funny)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 7 years ago | (#18712933)

You know, just to keep things fair. But unfortunately they're Linux, and I don't have enough cash to buy licenses for them. Ah well.

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (3, Interesting)

zoid.com (311775) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713091)

It would be so sweet if they installed Caldera on it. I have a set of the original Caldera Network Desktop installation CDs including Preview 1, Preview 2 and version 1. It's interesting that the core OS was Redhat on those releases. I think it was Redhat 4.2. And this was way before I had ever heard of Redhat. As a matter of fact it was right about the time of Linux 1.0 .

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (4, Funny)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713377)

I could load Caldera Linux on an old E-machine and ship it to SCO, but I think that would be too cruel, even for SCO.

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (3, Interesting)

afidel (530433) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713521)

Actually I used the Caldera Technology preview back in 2000 and it wasn't bad. In fact because it was based on 2.4 with 32bit UID's out of the box it was much, much easier to setup than Redhat at the time for use at Cisco. We had a NIS+ environment that contained many UID's above what would fit into the 16bit UID's used in the stock 2.2 kernal and getting glibc and everything else working with 32bit UID's was a royal pain. Eventually we developed a Redhat based supported internal distro but at the time the Caldera release fit my particular need.

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18714139)

Most people today wouldn't realize it, but OpenServer and UnixWare were excellent products to use even into the late 1990s. Before about 1999, Linux just wasn't suitable to use for most serious server applications. Sure, you could run a small web or FTP server on a PC running Linux, but that's where it maxed out.

For larger sites run on PC-based, your options basically came down to Windows NT, UnixWare, OpenServer, or BSD/OS. Although the trend is changing now, most administrators then wouldn't go anywhere near Windows NT. Many administrators had experience using Solaris on large Sun systems, so they found using the SVR4-based UnixWare easy to adapt to.

While BSD/OS was perhaps a more stable operating system, UnixWare and OpenServer often had better hardware support. If you can find the driver floppies for hardware you bought in the mid-1990s, there's a good chance that you'll find UnixWare and OpenServer drivers on there, along with those for DOS and Windows. OpenServer and UnixWare aren't as appealing today as they were then, but in those days they were often the best UNIX systems to use on PC hardware.

SCO never had a decent rep in my industry (1)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716133)

Most people today wouldn't realize it, but OpenServer and UnixWare were excellent products to use even into the late 1990s. Before about 1999, Linux just wasn't suitable to use for most serious server applications. Sure, you could run a small web or FTP server on a PC running Linux, but that's where it maxed out.

That's just not true. Linux was perfectly suitable for serious server applications. I know of several enterprises that used Linux servers for mission critical applications as early as 1996, including a firm I worked for in the financial industry. At that time, Linux on high-end PCs was a better solution than Solaris 2.6 on Sparc hardware for a number of trading applications. Of course, both Sun and Linux have moved on from there, with Sun taking the lead on some out-of-the-box enterprise solutions, and Linux taking the lead in other ways (custom solutions, cost, openness, etc.).

As for SCO having been one of the better Unicies around, it had a terrible reputation as early as 1989, and was never thought highly of by myself or any of my colleagues, in constrast to HPUX, Sun, BSD, the various free BSDs, and Linux. Obviously some industries embraced SCO, but others (the financial industry in particular, where latency, uptime, performance, and security are paramount) soundly rejected it from day one. So to characterise it as "often the best UNIX systems to use on PC hardware" post 1994 is IMHO pretty erroneous. Pre-1992 there was no Linux or FreeBSD on PC hardware, so with MINIX being SCO's main competition, your argument becomes stronger, but by the late 1990s it certainly wasn't the case.

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (1)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716197)

I used Caldera Linux too at one point, and liked it. I stopped because Red Hat Linux turned out to be better for my needs. Caldera Linux had some pretty good developers who helped advance Linux into the corporate field.

Caldera was a bit different back then though, McBride wasn't part of the company back then for one thing.

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (2, Insightful)

Darby (84953) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715863)

I could load Caldera Linux on an old E-machine and ship it to SCO, but I think that would be too cruel, even for SCO.

Never have I seen a sig fit a comment so well ;-)

Re:I'd donate some servers to SCO (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 7 years ago | (#18719529)

Don't do it.

The Scientologists would sue you!

Thanks for the S.O.M. reference! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18712949)

..found at the end of the article: So... somewhere in my youth or childhood, I must have done something good.

So thanks P.J. for the Sound of Music reference. Where do I begin? I am sixteen going on seventeen... or maybe Edelweiss, Edelweiss, you look happy to meet me... or maybe even when the dog bites, when the bee stings, when I'm feeling sad, I simply remember AMD's gift, and then I don't feeeeeeeel soooo baddddddd

Re:Thanks for the S.O.M. reference! (1)

unrtst (777550) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714037)

You were supposed to begin here:
http://www.he.iki.fi/favorites.mpeg [he.iki.fi]

(originally posted to nanog. If someone has a better link, by all means, post it)

Re:Thanks for the S.O.M. reference! (1)

LMacG (118321) | more than 7 years ago | (#18718787)

Where do I begin?

Let's start at the very beginning. It's a very good place to start.

Hopefully they have them installed and working... (5, Funny)

old7 (564621) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713073)

because here comes the Slashdotting.

What's in it for AMD? (5, Funny)

e9th (652576) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713077)

Is this their way of atoning for their heightened interest in DRM? "We'll give PJ two servers, but you give up framebuffer access."

Re:What's in it for AMD? (1)

pchan- (118053) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715181)

How about favorable coverage of their anti-trust lawsuit against Intel? Or, you know, just good PR.

Groklaw has IBM, Slashdot has BS-boxen (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713083)

Rumor has it that Slashdot runs on a beowulf cluster of these babies [bsutton.com] .

Miracle-GroKlaw (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713241)

I know this is OT, but whenever I read groklaw, I always see it as GroKlaw. The favicon doesn't help any either. It's like a green Zoidberg. While I don't care what others do with their own bodies, personally, I want no part of it. What are those mutant clawed people going to do with computers anyway? Not type, that's for sure. *shudder*

Re:Miracle-GroKlaw (2, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#18715251)

I know this is OT, but whenever I read groklaw, I always see it as GroKlaw

You should read Stranger in a strange land.

Re:Miracle-GroKlaw (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#18744199)

I grok what grok means, I'm just saying.. www.groklaw.com is not unlike www.penisland.com

Where art thou, SCO Group ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713247)

Where will SCO get their servers from ?

Who will Darth McBride will get his car and parts from ?
(they've sued DaimlerChrysler and AutoZone too)

The problem with being a stupid troublemaker and
Microsoft shill is that noone respects you anymore.

It's very clear that apart from the companies engaged
into some form of Linux distribution, and apart from
their (former) customers, there's little respect
for The SCO Group in the marketplace at large.

AMD's support is clearly a vote for high ethical
standards and transparency, something The SCO Group
is not exactly renowned for.

Re:Where art thou, SCO Group ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713375)

I am a little curious
to see how this saga
ends, but I guess I
was hoping it would
take less than a decade
to resolve.

You Fail It! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713307)

Fuck The baby 1. Therefore it's

It's a trap (5, Funny)

tangent3 (449222) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713595)

Hi PJ, we will need to meet you to sign some papers for the servers...

Core 2 Duo? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18713799)

Why is a Core 2 Duo submitting news about AMD anyway?

Irony! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18719797)

It was an ironic punishment for the DRM story about them earlier (which I also submitted). Of course, it looks like Intel is doing that, too, as part of the TCPA crap, so...

Anyhow, if you're going to submit "anonymously" why not leave an entertaining name? Actually, you've seen lots of crazy names and fake(?) emails on my anonymous submissions before. But, for some reason, there's almost always one and only one comment noticing the name. This time, it's you :)

Core 2 Duo? (2, Interesting)

squisher (212661) | more than 7 years ago | (#18713807)

Doesn't anynoe think it's odd that this story about an AMD donation was posted by "Core 2 Duo", which is linked to the Intel page? Since there's no user page for that name, I'm assuming that it's not a person, but somehow a special submission... odd, together with this new Intel Opinion center... might it have caused some bias?

Re:Core 2 Duo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18714027)

Yes, Intel submitted this story. I'm quaking in my boots here.

Re:Core 2 Duo? (3, Interesting)

Hemogoblin (982564) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714051)

Interesting. I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.

Looking further, we can see that the last AMD story, AMD's New DRM [slashdot.org] , was submitted by DefectiveByDesign which links to the FSF page.

Another possible example is the story AMD Athlon 64 6000+ Launched And Tested [slashdot.org] , which was submitted by Spinnerbait. It doesn't link to a page, but its a pretty suggestive name.

Perhaps the editors are surreptitiously inserting their opinions into the submissions. On the other hand, this can all be explained by submitters trying to be clever. But thats not nearly as fun.

Re:Core 2 Duo? (1)

Vengeance (46019) | more than 7 years ago | (#18716059)

I wouldn't read too much into 'spinnerbait' if I were you. Sounds like a guy who (like me) is into fishing. It's just a kind of lure.

I submitted those! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18721343)

> On the other hand, this can all be explained by submitters trying to be clever. But that's not nearly as fun.

I'm the submitter both of the DRM story and this one. No clue who Spinnerbait is, though? I mean, you can put ANYTHING *cough*Microsoft Delenda Est*cough* in there, and most people will ignore it. Well, except that one guy who knew what it meant.

I was just having a little fun and punishing AMD a little for the DRM, even while thanking them for their support of Groklaw :) I'm not an editor, though, although you've probably seen many of my stories and you didn't realize it. Unless you were one of the few people who noticed the strangely appropriate name used...

SCO "logic" (3, Funny)

defy god (822637) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714013)

Sorry for the use of the word logic in connection with SCO, but I believe the following scenario wouldn't be too far fetched:

  • AMD Donates Servers to Groklaw
  • Search for an IBM/AMD connection through Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 742,000 for ibm amd partnership. (0.13 seconds) [also, note how obvious the connection is by how quickly google came up with an answer]
  • Arstechnica's actual headline: "IBM and AMD partnership extended through 2008" [arstechnica.com]
  • SCO spin: IBM blatantly funding Groklaw!

Never tongue kiss a Gift Horse (3, Funny)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | more than 7 years ago | (#18714073)

Oh delicious irony. It only seems like yesterday when someone said:

"AMD plans to block access to the framebuffer in hardware to help enforce DRM schemes,
  such as allowing more restricted playback of Sony Blu-Ray disks.
  They can pry my Print Screen key from my cold, dead fingers."

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/28/14OPcurv e_1.html [infoworld.com]

Groklaw; Better head down to Staples for some legal pads and boxes of biros. You're gunna need them! ;-)

At last we know (1)

J.R. Random (801334) | more than 7 years ago | (#18719585)

PJ is really a lawyer working for AMD.
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