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Seven Essential Tips For Using Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the hard-to-wrangle dept.

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Ed Albro writes "Matthew Newton, a columnist at PC World, has a great article up on seven things you'll want to change as soon as you start using Feisty Fawn. Some are as simple as making sure the Alt key works right, another gives you step-by-step instructions for turning on the impressive Beryl interface. 'I could spend a whole 'nother column telling you about all the great packages that are not installed by default, but for now I'll just leave you with this bonus tip: If you're running Ubuntu on a laptop and your Wi-Fi card is not detected or supported, try installing the Ndisgtk package (listed as such in Synaptic, but as 'Wireless Windows Drivers' in Add/Remove Applications). Then select the new System, Administration, Windows Wireless Drivers entry in Ubuntu's menu bar.'"

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Step 0 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813179)

1) Reformat disk & install Mac OS X
2) ???
3) Profit!

Re:Step 0 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813635)

So...something slower, more insecure, with less packages/games available from a company that sues their own customers?

Umm, yeah. The good thing about not being an apple fan is at least knowing you're not a complete dumbshit.

Re:Step 0 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813921)

Any tips for us heterosexuals?

Can we get some drunken tranny art students? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814215)

Apparently, an OS has not "made it" until a pack of drunken transvestite art students post pictures of themselves using it to teh intarweb. There are literally millions of drunken tranny art students in the world, surely some of them must be using Ubuntu? Come on, we need pics!

Naming suggestions (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814229)

Here are some naming suggestions for future Ubuntu releases:

Angy Akata
Busty Beaner
Crackhead Coon
Ditzy Darkie
Eerie Erkel
Fisting Feminazi
Grubby Goombah
Horny Ho
Irate Inky
Jumping Jigaboo
Kinky Kike
Lame Limey
Morose Moolie
Nappy Nigger
Obscene Oreo
Pimply Popolo
Queefing Queer
Reeking Rafter
Sleazy Spic
Tipsy Tranny
Ugly UncleTom
Venomous Velcrohead
Wretched Whigger
Xenophobic Xena
Yellow Yenta
Zany Zebra

My tip... (-1, Redundant)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813189)

Start off by calling something other than one of the stupid code names that have become the fashion for Linux builds.

What's up with that. It's bad enough I can't get my parents over the interface differences enough to use it. Now I have to also tell them they're running an OS called Feisty Fawn?!?!

Pulease!

Re:My tip... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813287)

These code names aren't satisfying any of the reasons you might use a code name:
  • Keeping things a secret
  • Temporary substitute for the real name
  • Less awkward than a version number alone

Re:My tip... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813373)

Since when as any Linux company/nerd ever understood the power of branding and brand reinforcement with marketing ?
instead of deriding other OS's/b$ companies for their marketing they should be learning how it works and how important it is
this should be easy as all the billion $ companies are the ones spending the cash to experiment with the market, Linux should be creaming the best ideas and implementing a decent strategy after all Nerds know best right ?, but alas no and thats why we have stupid names like GNU for example, that sounds like it was invented by a child in a classroom , no wonder it gets laughed off the table when mentioning what the acronym means at a F250 board meeting.

Linux needs to mature faster than the jerks coming up with the names

Re:My tip... (5, Insightful)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813625)

Linux needs to mature faster than the jerks coming up with the names

Why? It's grown up nicely with me since 1995. Your whole post is predicated on the idea that the original developers of FOSS just want to make money off it. Usually they don't; they do it for fun, because they love computers, to help out their fellow man, the list goes on and in some cases probably includes making money. But not usually in my experience.

Companies that repackage it all and want to make money may want to spend some time studying branding and marketing but the GNU people aren't trying to sell you anything. They give it to you, no charge, including the blessing to make your own money off it if you choose/can succeed. If you think you can sell GNU software under some fancy name then I will be happy to give your distro a try when it's released. I like to try them all! But you can also be sure I will go back to using my Sarges and Etches and my Drakes and Fawns if your distro ends up sucking, even if you do come up with a clever name.

Re:My tip... and I resent being labeled a troll... (-1, Offtopic)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813801)

This is a seriously valid complaint. The number of arguments I've had with various groups over the years regarding stupid product/version names makes my head hurt. The most recent brilliance I would like to highlight was SeaMonkey. Where the use the name along with the image of a brine shrimp. Given that the term Sea Monkey was created specifically to identify a branded package of brine shrimp, it seems like this is a pretty poor idea for a name and is just asking for a lawsuit. One of the devs got in my face about it and told me I was just wrong. "SeaMonkey" is a browser and the brine shrimp are called "Sea Monkeys" so they can do what ever the hell they want.

My jaw was on the floor. What a douche. ...and back to the subject at hand, one of the top rules of branding!

Make sure people can pronounce your damn product name. How the hell do you say Umnbutooo?!? Is that an African word? What does it mean?!?!

Know your audience... ok seriously is there a single geek here that wants to go around saying, "Gee boys I'm running Fiesty Fawn!" with gusto? Hell no, and what geek is going to suggest it to their friends and family...

"Hey guys, you should run the new Umbboobto, Fiesty Fawn"... which get the response of "Gee fella, is there something you're trying to tell us? We'll still love you. It's ok. Do you need a hug?"

I am sooo sorry. I just can't take it.

Re:My tip... and I resent being labeled a troll... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814089)

If it bothers you that much then why can't you say that Ubuntu 7.04?

Re:My tip... and I resent being labeled a troll... (0, Offtopic)

gmezero (4448) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814429)

Because I didn't get any sleep last night doing work building a PHP based video repository system front end that I'm hoping to tie into LDAP at somepoint for a security layer.... in the last hour I've finally hit my silly zone though and I really I should go home and get some sleep but then I would be missing my 9-5 work hours. Blah!

Re:My tip... and I resent being labeled a troll... (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814233)

Make sure people can pronounce your damn product name. How the hell do you say Umnbutooo?!? Is that an African word? What does it mean?!?!

i haven't seen anyone having trouble pronouncing it in the real world. it's you-boon-too.

and yes, it is an african word. it's a humanist idealology, fitting with the ubuntu motto of "linux for human beings".

though i do agree with you that the codenames are silly. still, there's no need to add it to the name.

i also don't get a lot of software names, but hey, they make it, they name it, and i might use it.

Re:My tip... and I resent being labeled a troll... (2, Insightful)

God of Lemmings (455435) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814437)

Parent is not off-topic, and has a point. Using code words rather than version numbers is seriously problematic
when identifying to a new user whether or not they are using the newest version, and to whether or not the packages
they are installing are obsolete.

My personal complaint is the lack of contiguity between releases. I'd really like it if I could install from an old system disk and update it to current without getting "Your system is obsolete" during an update...

Re:My tip... (2, Funny)

ZorinLynx (31751) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813827)

I actually like the name. It's playful and disarming.

Though my favorite is still Fedora Core 6's code name, "Zod".

"Kneel before Zod!"

"Oh my god!" "Zod."

Best villain ever, I still say.

Re:My tip... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813837)

I just was wondering that if for ubuntu the version is called feisty fawn, for gaybuntu (http://gaybuntu.org) this version is called fu**in' faggot. Just for th bad taste of names tough. :)

huh? (0, Offtopic)

otacon (445694) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813201)

"Matthew Newton, a columnist at PC World, has a great up on seven things you'll want to change as soon as you start using Feisty Fawn.
What is a 'great up'? Is that some new hip bastardization of english?

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813265)

Word tip!

Re:huh? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813301)

I can only hope that the submitter meant to insert the word 'article' or 'column' in there ("...has a great column up on...").

Re:huh? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813495)

The slashdot editors don't change the user article descriptions. Also, to be blunt; the poster forgot to put the word "write" into their blurb, which is a minor error. If you are infallible; then you might be entitled to make comments on grammar. Otherwise: stfu.

Your grammar is not correct. The word is "English" not "english". There goes the whole infalliblity thing.

PS: No, I am not the submitter. I have no affiliation to the author or slashdot; other than being a reader. Just tired of people being (petty) grammar Nazi's.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813521)

Get rid of that apostrophe in your last word. It's not a possessive, just a plural.

You mean to say: Just tired of people being (petty) grammar Nazis.

HTH HAND.

Re:huh? (1)

otacon (445694) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813619)

1. The capitalization of English or lack of capitalization doesn't change the word.

2. Nazi is pluralized Nazis not "Nazi's" as you put it.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813805)

1. Yes it does.

2. Your quotes are superfluous.

Re:huh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813853)

What is the past tense of "Bone."

Which is most correct:

"Last night I boned your Mom."
"I laid bone to your Mom last night."
"Last night I did bone your Mom."

Oh that sounds easy (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813205)


i shall my Grandma to jump into a root shell and grep the package repository for those drivers, a quick make and compile and she should be good to go
my Cousin on XP however will just plug the card in and install the drivers from the CD

Re:Oh that sounds easy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813307)

my Cousin on XP however will just plug the card in and install the drivers from the CD
you mean the drivers dont come with the OS? that's too bad, i'm sorry.

Psst! "Editors." (0, Redundant)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813217)

>Matthew Newton, a columnist at PC World, has a great up on...

A "great up?"

Sentence no word.

Re:Psst! "Editors." (1)

Dude McDude (938516) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813329)

Standards are slipping.

Re:Psst! "Editors." (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813431)

No they aren't!! Seems just as good as before...

Goatse! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813219)

http://goatse.ch/ [goatse.ch]

Linux: Not There Yet (-1, Troll)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813223)

Wake me up when Linux is more ready for the desktop than Windows is.

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (1)

wwwojtek (246402) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813257)

you seem woken up to me...

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (1)

Dude McDude (938516) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813275)

You're going to be asleep for a looooooooong time sir/madam!

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813315)

This is your seven o'clock alarm call!
Wake the hell up!

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (2, Funny)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813525)

Susano! Wake Up! LINNNUUUXXX is ready!

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813561)

Strange that this guy got trolled, he's got a point. If Linux is ever going to take a fair share of the desktop market, they'll need to come up with something better than having to make seven essential changes yourself to get things running properly. And isn't Ubuntu supposed to be Linux for human beings, i.e. ordinary people? I can see lots of ordinary people getting freaked out by having to install a lot of stuff in order to get the Alt-button working the way it should...

my 2 cents.

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813715)

Who uses the right-alt button for anything anyway? The article's suggestion of using rt-alt+F2 to bring up the run dialog is just silly. You have move both of your hands from proper touch typing position to do this (because of the awkward positioning of the alt-keys), so it's not really any more efficient than the left-thumb-alt, pointer/middle-F2 combo that Many of the rest of us use.

But I do appreciate the extended key thingie he mentioned. I didn't even know about that before, but it sounds quite useful. Next time I boot into Ubuntu, I'm going to practice typing resumé and cliché a buncha times just to revel in not having to type alt-zero-two-three-three to get the é. ok I'll probably only "practice" this once, but still, it's a neat feature I didn't even know about before I heard someone complaining about it.

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (5, Insightful)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813785)

How long is your list for vista/xp?

Xp:

Step 1: Pray you have SP2 to enable firewall.
Step 2: Install 80+ updates. Reboot at least 4 times, probably one crash at least.
Step 3: Install all drivers for all hardware.
Step 4: Download and install A/V software. Suffer 10% performance penalty until the end of time.
Step 5: Download and install browser.
Step 6: Download and install decent text editor.
Step 7: Download and install cd burning software.
Step 8: Download and install dvd playing software.
Step 9: Download and install video software.
Step 10: Download and install music playing software.
Step 11: Disable tons of services in mmc services panel.

Jesus, we're not even close to done. All of these take quite a bit more time than the 7 steps outlined above, and nowhere near as stable...

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (1)

kroepoek (1078915) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814271)

You forgot step 2.5: Download and apply WGA patch

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (3, Insightful)

wezeldog (982156) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814285)

Step 0 (nil?): If you are installing on a Serial ATA/SCSI drive, grab an old 3.5" Floppy drive out of a box in the garage and install it in 'cause setup is only going look for a floppy drive at A: (Or you can slipstream them into your own installer CD. Of course, you would need a functioning OS for that.) I think drive letters are great!!!

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (1)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814459)

Step 1 - You either have SP2 or you don't. If you don't, install whatever version you have and download the update (that'll also cut down the number of reboots on step 2). If you're worried about viruses, download a freeware AV package before you do the update. There are freeware personal firewalls available too.

Step 2 - If you were loading from old distribution CD, wouldn't you have to go through this step at least once? The last Macintosh update I got required a reboot, so I know that if I reloaded from the OSX distribution CD that I got with my system, I would need to do a reboot.

Step 3 - Most installations don't really need new drivers. With few exceptions - newer display adapters or older hardware - the base Windows install supports just about any hardware that someone has on their system. Sometimes it's limited support, but it generally works well enough to get the latest driver to fully enable it.

Step 4 - Well, yes, but that's the nature of the beast.

Steps 5 through 10 are the user's choice and has nothing to do with the installation of Windows. Each one of those components is in the base install. You may not like them and may want to use something else, but they're there.

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (2, Insightful)

infinityxi (266865) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814129)

Okay you may have a point with some of the tweaks. The right alt key should work like the left but that is a preference and familiarity from Windows, but did you even read the article? What did the guy have to install to make his right alt key work? Oh right, nothing. He had to go into the preferences and set it. It's like control panel except...it's not. I also don't get it, people like you complain when the Linux desktop environment is a complete mirror image of windows or you complain that it isn't exactly like windows down to the last Icon? Which is it? I am sure the right-alt key won't make or break the experience.

Also by your logic Windows isn't ready for the desktop either, which is debated (especially by linux fanboys) but do you call having to go get the driver CD for many different pieces of hardware and installing anti-virus convenient? I think it's just habit and people like you just accept it because you are used to it. I mean Windows is on a hell of a lot more PCs than Linux is (Desktops). You guys hold Linux to this level that is unattainable and I don't think Linux will be for you for a very long time.

Re:Linux: Not There Yet (2, Interesting)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814299)

Wake me up when Linux is more ready for the desktop than Windows is.
Newsflash! Vista has been released already.

Editing? (-1, Redundant)

Reason58 (775044) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813233)

Matthew Newton, a columnist at PC World, has a great up on seven things you'll want to change as soon as you start using Feisty Fawn.
A great up? Is that like a write-up, or some slang I am unaware of? This is in the very first sentence even.

Automatix? Ugh (5, Insightful)

joe_cot (1011355) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813289)

Don't get me wrong: I'm glad Ubuntu is getting the publicity. What bothers me the most about this article, though, is that he suggests that one of the first things you should do is install Automatix

Automatix is simple, and easy to use. It'll automatically install a lot of important stuff -- but it does so in a bad way. Overwriting files, removing dependencies, messing up the ubuntu-desktop metapackage -- name a brute-force method to deal a low blow to your package management system, and Automatix does it in ways that make developers cringe.

This is not usually a problem initially, but eventually you end up paying the piper; when it's time to update to the next version, things break, and it's Automatix's fault. A large portion of problems people experienced moving from Dapper to Edgy were caused by Automatix; Automatix refused to support those problems, and claimed it was our fault. I don't have a problem with Automatix existing, but until they take responsibility for the problems they cause, I'm not going to go recommending it to users. It does more harm than good.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813369)

I agree - I cringed when I read that - irresponsible!

I've used EasyUbuntu [freecontrib.org] and the MediUbuntu [sos-sts.com] repositories to get all the same jobs done safely - I would recommend those options instead of Automatix

Re:Automatix? Ugh (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813615)

Except that EasyUbuntu appears to be dead. It hasn't had a stable release since just after Dapper and there's no news on their website.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813791)

And yet it still causes less damage to your system than Automatix.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (5, Informative)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814081)

Given that Feisty will automatically prompt you to install all codecs you will ever need, and the minimal rest (mainly dvd decryption and w32codecs if you prefer xine/mplayer over gstreamer) is in medibuntu, Automatix seems superfluous to me.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (5, Informative)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813953)

Exactly. The only reason 90% of people use Automatix is to install codecs, but it's actually easier to install codecs directly than it is to install Automatix. Here's where you should go to install codecs:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s [ubuntu.com]

Here's the important part:

Click Applications Add/Remove. In the top right, change the setting to "All available applications". Then select Other in the left panel and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.
To play most DVDs you'll need the libdvdcss2 package. This package is available using Medibuntu. This is a third party package, and not supported by Canonical.
Here's a direct link to libdvdcss2:
i386: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb [sos-sts.com]
amd64: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.d eb [sos-sts.com]

Save it to your desktop, then right click and hit Install. That's all you need to do to get codecs for everything. Please, people, avoid Automatix.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (3, Informative)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814417)

Oops, forgot w32codecs for Windows Media Audio/Video and Realplayer. Here's a deb for i386:

http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32co decs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb [debian-multimedia.org]

Save to desktop, right-click install. It's built for Debian, but it works for Ubuntu just the same. It's what I use and it works great.

Re:Automatix? Ugh (1)

Doctor Crumb (737936) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814153)

Never mind that many of the things that automatix dealt with (esp. codecs) are now handled by feisty itself...

Re:Automatix? Ugh (1)

plueken (990074) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814445)

I would still not see the point of Automatix, as Feisty does handle most of the work that Automatix used to do, but they do deserve some credit. Automatix2, the modern version, doesn't use all of the dangerous --force flags and random edits to sources.list that the original did, but nobody ever noticed that they fixed it. So I would say Automatix is just unnecessary, but not dangerous any longer.

Automatix? (0, Redundant)

amplusquem (995096) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813299)

I was surprised to see that the write up recommended Automatix. I thought it was not going to be needed in Feisty, especially with the Restricted Codecs package easily available from Synaptic. I also was under the impression that Automatix often messed with Ubuntu updates, and it's better to just install via Synaptic or manually (which really isn't difficult, just copying and pasting commands into a terminal...)

Re:Automatix? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813555)

A lot of people, when a new [something or other] comes out, don't take the time to learn it's new features. Instead, they do it the exact same way they have been doing it.

So yes, most of the stuff it does is already doable by default.
Hell, *all* of the stuff it does is doable. People are just whiny "*waaah*, what do you mean I have to click the mouse a few times?"
And you're right. The cost of their laziness at the moment means they have one hell of a time upgrading.

But people like instant gratification, and never think to the future.

Already a great experience by default (4, Interesting)

zborro (591127) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813351)

Nice to see tips for the newbies to help them set up the system in the way they like best,
but I feel that the system just after installation is already really usable and reliable.
If you are not an expert and you start to turn on Beryl and to play with Synaptic...
I believe that a lot of people will be going back to windows because their system has become
unusable.

Once you're ready to take off, you will discover by yourself these great features.

Just my idea.
marco

Re:Already a great experience by default (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814069)

What, are you writing a fucking poem or something?

Re:Already a great experience by default (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814109)

Recommending Automatix to newbies is irresponsible, especially since they won't need it.

BS: Already a great experience by default (1)

ubuwalker31 (1009137) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814175)

My computer was up and running with the default install. However, it was running at a less than optimum resolution. So, I used a Ubuntu's new tool to install the proprietary NVIDIA drivers.

So, of course, my 8800GTS does not work with Ubuntu's version of NVIDIAs drivers and xorg crashed. Which is total BS since Nvidia's latest drivers (which have been around for at least a month) work with the 8800GTS.

Why alienate users?! They should have delayed the release.

(Also, where is the Fiesty Install Guide? The only one I can find is the 6.10 Install/Help Guide. Why isn't documentation released the same day as the binaries. WTF!?!)

(And...where is support for my Creative X-Fi Sound Card?!!? This isn't Ubuntu's fault, it is Creative's and ALSA's fault for not getting their asses in gear. I don't want to wait till 3rd Q of 2007 for support!!!)

Re:BS: Already a great experience by default (3, Informative)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814397)

the nvidia-glx-new package supports the 8xxx cards. There's a long story behind why it's called new, and it's all right here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-re stricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/96430 [launchpad.net]

Don't blame launchpad for the funkiness, they had to work around nvidia's move of de-supporting a huge amount of cards that are still currently very popular.

if you are running a laptop you should not upgrade (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813469)

there is a show stopper bug in either the kernel or driver for the ata2 interface.

it's confirmed now that on many laptops the kernel has to restart the ata2 interface intermittently and thereby lock up your system for up to 30 seconds at a time essentially rendering your laptop useless.

stay on lts or edgy for the time being until this bug is fixed:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-so urce-2.6.20/+bug/107271 [launchpad.net]

Re:if you are running a laptop you should not upgr (2, Informative)

brunascle (994197) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813519)

from what i've heard, keeping a CD in the cdrom resolves this.

Re:if you are running a laptop you should not upgr (5, Funny)

MagicM (85041) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814071)

And gluing a penny to the top of your PC lets you use imported software.

It's true! Try it!

Re:if you are running a laptop you should not upgr (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813577)

I have this problem on a desktop computer, too. :(

Re:if you are running a laptop you should not upgr (1)

solevita (967690) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814325)

Some nice FUD there. My laptop works fine - upgraded yesterday without a hitch. All laptops aren't useless with 7.04. Windows has some bugs too, shall we keep that off laptops (or mod some Microsoft laptop FUD to +5)?

Tip #8 (4, Funny)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813477)

"Wanna play with my Fiesty Fawn?" should never be used as a pick-up line.

Re:Tip #8 (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813689)

I agree.

the one that works for me is ...

Hey, you wanna play with my Wii?

Re:Tip #8 (-1, Troll)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813905)

oh wii like penis U R teh FUNNAY LOLZ!!!!!!!11!one!

Re:Tip #8 (1)

uhlume (597871) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814339)

No, he means wii as in 'small'.

Re:Tip #8 (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814157)

What about "Can I install my Randy Rhino into your Slippery Snatch"

I love Ubuntu (1)

jshriverWVU (810740) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813501)

but I just upgraded to Feisty and my system is borked now. Not sure what's wrong. But I'll do a backup and do a fresh reinstall rather than an upgrade.

Problem if your connectivity is wireless... (2, Insightful)

caluml (551744) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813523)

If you're running Ubuntu on a laptop and your Wi-Fi card is not detected or supported, try installing the Ndisgtk package (listed as such in Synaptic, but as 'Wireless Windows Drivers' in Add/Remove Applications). Sucks be to you if your only connectivity is Wireless...

Re:Problem if your connectivity is wireless... (1)

Markus_UW (892365) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814057)

Yeah, that's happened to me a few times now, so i keep my wireless driver and the ndiswrapper package around for when i install.

Upgrade From Edgy? (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813545)

How do I use APT to upgrade from my Edgy install to Feisty?

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (1)

wile_e_wonka (934864) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813621)

What's wrong with using the update manager?

It used to be that the apt method was:

"apt-get dist-upgrade" or something close to that. That method doesn't seem to be recommended for this upgrade.

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (2, Informative)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813735)

Definately not good to apt-get dist-upgrade.... my home machine's IDE drives suddenly got referenced as scsis, all sorts of heck broke loose and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

My work machine I followed the process of using the update manager, and all is well.

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814191)

If I recall correctly you just need to make sure Eft is completely up to date before dist-upgrading to Fiesty. Apt changed sometime in Edgy so you need to make sure you are using the latest version of Apt before you begin grabbing Feisty packages.

I'm sure a search on the Ubuntu Wiki [ubuntu.com] will turn up more specific details.

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (1)

Flooded77 (730881) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813727)

The Ubuntu Guide [ubuntuguide.org] is your friend.

I've had some trouble with this method in the past and I haven't used it since so YMMV. Good luck.

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (5, Informative)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814075)

Here is the official guide from ubuntu.com: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [ubuntu.com]

First make sure your computer is fully up to date (with Edgy). Then follow these instructions:

1. Open System -> Administration -> Update Manager
2. A button on the top of the window will appear, informing you of the availability of the new release
3. Click Upgrade
4. Follow the on-screen instructions

That page also has a link on how to upgrade manually from a command-line, but it's not recommended.

Re:Upgrade From Edgy? (2)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814173)

How do I use APT to upgrade from my Edgy install to Feisty?

Assuming you mean apt-get or aptitude: preferably not at all. Read http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [ubuntu.com]
If you insist, click the link at the bottom of the page.

Nitpick: APT is the Advanced Packaging Tool, and you always use it automatically when upgrading a Debian-based system, even when you don't use apt-get/aptitude but update-manager, as recommended at the above link.

Great. How to screw up your system (5, Insightful)

oxfletch (108699) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813671)

So the article is basically "How to install a bunch of shit that wasn't installed by default for good reasons". Not a good idea.

Binary drivers that are completely unsupportable.
A package manager that conflict with the default one.
3D whiz-bang eye candy that's unstable, and requires yet more binary drivers to get 3D.

Magic.

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18813755)

Yes... the inability to use wireless out of the box. Thank god they didn't install that 'bunch of shit'

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (1)

oxfletch (108699) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814209)

It's not all wireless. It's only those a few cards that have NDIS drivers for some foul kludge to load Windows drivers into a Linux box. Most of them will work absolutely fine out of the box.

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (1)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813929)

I agree that binary drivers are a bad idea and the package management works best in a unified way. However, I like the 3D wiz bang graphics. Please note that they do not require binary drivers to do 3D, at least not if you get intel graphics. Why Linux users continue to buy products that don't work with free software is beyond me.

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (2, Insightful)

oxfletch (108699) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814043)

Intel graphics chips, whilst commendable, are not available as an add-in card for any existing system. Else, yes, I'd buy one.

There is no solution for 3D with dual-DVI.

"Why Linux users continue to buy products that don't work with free software is beyond me." ... ummm ... some of us keep our systems for a couple of years. That's longer than the intel product has been available. And ... AMD systems?

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814213)

+1 Insightful. I wish these people would either go away, or at least don't call their broken ideas "essential" (Automatix?). That, or hang out in ubuntu-users afterwards, to help the users they have led into breaking their systems.

Re:Great. How to screw up your system (1)

slartibart (669913) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814221)

So the article is basically "How to install a bunch of shit that wasn't installed by default for good reasons". Not a good idea. Binary drivers that are completely unsupportable. A package manager that conflict with the default one. 3D whiz-bang eye candy that's unstable, and requires yet more binary drivers to get 3D.

But Beryl is so pretty.

Seriously, Expose (or "scale" in Beryl) is so much more effective than a taskbar, that alone is worth the price of admission. When you have 20 windows open, trying to find a tiny icon and a few characters of text that match a window you're looking for is too slow. You know what the window looks like, just find it on the screen. Couldn't be simpler.

Not only that, but sometimes you start several things going and are waiting for all of them. Rather than switching back and forth between windows, or resizing them manually, you can just "scale" and watch all of them.

Huh? (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813809)

The right-hand alt key is not configured... does anyone actually use the right-hand keys (alt, windows, menu context, ctrl, and shift)? I have never ever used that part of the keyboard.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814105)

Yes, what do you do with your right hand? I don't think I want to know...
  If I have to do meta plus a key on the right side, I use only my right hand (I have thin long fingers). It annoys me that they used the right alt key for something superfluous for so many users yet they left the 'menu' key (I use it as a compose key, but I'd like my right alt back!).

Re:Huh? (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814341)

My right hand is either on the mouse or right side of the keyboard when I'm typing.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814383)

Well, when I'm using windows I use the right Alt and Ctrl for Ctrl+Alt+Del.

Other than that and occasionally Shift, I don't.

Only 3 tips... (-1, Troll)

geeper (883542) | more than 7 years ago | (#18813911)

1. Uninstall Ubuntu
2. Install Vista
3. Rock On

Whatta useless article (1)

Petkov (1011081) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814049)

All he gushes over is some useless eye candy such as Beryl and the system crasher Automatix.

Oh yeah fixing your resolution...an the Linux zelots STILL claim Linux is SOOOO easy to use any average luser can set it up sure.

notice to /. editors: fix your damn shit. Plain Old text makes more sense than HTML formatted

Essential? (1)

dorath (939402) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814199)

Not sure I'd say that those seven tips are essential [m-w.com] , because two of them are mutually exclusive (5 & 6).

...legality of doing so in the United States? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18814265)

(mods - this is serious, don't mod me into oblivion.)

Am I mistaken that this columnist is directing people to install unlicensed patented software?

Fluendo likely went through considerable paperwork hassle to make MPEG2, 4, and Windows Media codecs available for sale, and Thompson has a licensed MP3 decoder plugin for XMMS ... wouldn't it be appropriate to say "If you are outside of the areas covered by these patents, get these free implementations, otherwise go here to purchase legit ones" ?

In all honesty.. (2, Insightful)

Mockylock (1087585) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814409)

What are the new features of the latest version of Ubuntu aside from the 3D desktop toggling? I haven't read much about it, and wondered if there were any breakthrough tools or features.

NDISwrapper is the path of madness (3, Informative)

Hoplite3 (671379) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814411)

Save yourself sanity. Don't use devices that only have windows drivers running through NDISwrapper. You'll get only a tiny fraction of the functionality, it'll break all the time. My experience has been that devices with in-kernel drivers are worth whatever premium. Always get the intel wireless on your laptop.

NDIS is the lowest level of hardware "support" in Linux. If Stallman warns about binary blobs or nonfree drivers because you don't know what the code is and the drivers stop working after the company stops maintaining them ... just image how terrible it is when you are using another OS's buggy binary-only driver. You have that mental image. Now add demons pouring acid down your throat. You're approaching the reality of NDISwrapper. I think half-broken internet access is worse than no access. You just get tempted to believe that you can really get whatever from the net, only to find that when you count on connectivity, it breaks.

Who is this PC World joker, anyway?

Erm... Open Source needs marketing and PR work! (-1)

djkitsch (576853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814505)

OK, let's get this straight.

Pretend I am a tech-illiterate typical PC user, with little to back up my choices apart from how professional each OS appears. Here are my choices:

1) Windows Vista from Microsoft, one of the world's largest software firms.

2) OS X Tiger, by Apple, world leaders in design and usability.

3) Feisty Fawn with "Beryl", whoever she is, written by a whole bunch of random geeks.

Someone *really* needs to realise the best product does not always get the most users - get with the programme... bad names don't sell good software! Even if it is free.

He forgot one... (1)

s_p_oneil (795792) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814521)

If you're using an RT2500-based wifi card (it's a pretty common one), get the Windows driver and install it using ndiswrapper. If your wifi card is the only way your PC can access the Internet, make sure you get everything ready before you install Feisty.

My RT2500 worked fine on 6.x as long as I wasn't using WPA (which had to be set up manually and crapped out every hour), but the card won't connect at all with 7.x. From what I can tell it has something to do with Feisty using newer RT2500 drivers, which seem to be buggier than the old drivers.

Fix alt key? Fix Euro key! (1)

kroepoek (1078915) | more than 7 years ago | (#18814541)

Instead of disabling the right alt key as a 3rd level chooser, enable the Euro key by enabling "Add the EuroSign to the 5 key". Then the Euro actually works, by pressing right alt+5.

"Menu is compose" is also useful if you don't use an international (dead keys) layout. Press the compose key (context menu) to type special characters like ë é è ê and others. (I used " ' ` ^ . and , for those. If you only see 4 characters, then the /. comment system ate them.)
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