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Mapping the Blogosphere

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the down-the-road-from-myspace dept.

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dominique_cimafranca writes "Discover Magazine has an interesting article on mapping the blogosphere, reporting on the work of Matthew Hurst. Hurst put together a 3D map of the blogosphere, with bright spots represent sites with the highest number of links and isolated islands represent closed communities like LiveJournal. The study also identifies other islands like sociopolitical commentary, gadget hounds, sports fans, and, um, porn blogs."

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Goatse! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824379)

Gaotes! [goatse.ch]

BLOGS ARE SO FRICKIN GAY gay gay gay gay gay (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825323)

I wish that anyone that takes terms like blogosphere seriously would kneel and suck [goatse.ch] my [goatse.cx] penis [www.goat.cx] .

Mod parent UP! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825503)

This man speaks the truth. Whoever modded him down deserves to rot.

Re:BLOGS ARE SO FRICKIN GAY gay gay gay gay gay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18827227)

Amen brother. The word blogosphere is a stain on the underpants of humanity.

The term BLOG / BLOGOSPHERE is used only by MORONS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18827623)

Like you, Slashdot.

Goatse is right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18828971)

Only idiots interested in this article would read it, and those idiots deserve to die for using such terms as 'blogosphere'

Interesting (0)

cesium132 (1091379) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824433)

Interesting... I thought I went insane for a second when I clicked that link! Didn't look like the Earth to me. Guess I need to get my head in the computer more often.

Re:Interesting (1)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824903)

It's pretty much showing that the US has the highest density of active blogs.

175,000 blogs don't turn up a day though, 175,000 web pages that get called blogs that are thrown up by bots or people who don't much care to put any work into them are created. a 'Blog' is something that has actually been used as a log/place to express opinions over a period of time.

Interesting isn't it, that one of the poster children of web 2.0 is producing just as much meaningless crap as that old boring angelfire/auto home page was a few years back.

Re:Interesting (1)

wanion (94098) | more than 7 years ago | (#18828297)

It's pretty much showing that the US has the highest density of active blogs.

How is it showing that? The image in the article isn't based on geographical information.

Not that I disagree about the amount of rubbish on blogs.

Can we all agree? (1)

nuclearpenguins (907128) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824439)

Can we all agree that "blogosphere" is one of the worst buzzwords ever invented? Well ok, maybe 2nd worst. The top spot should definitely go to "Web 2.0"

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

wootest (694923) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824679)

Yes. It is second only to the henious contraction that is the word 'blog' itself.

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824811)

Can we all agree that "blogosphere" is one of the worst buzzwords ever invented?
It's one of those words that manages to sound both moronic and pretentious, like it was invented by a 12-year-old who wasn't half as clever as he liked to think he was.

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825195)

it was invented by a 12-year-old who wasn't half as clever as he liked to think he was.

'nuff said.

Incredible the number of people that throw up blogs and go on as if they're journalists. Talk about undeserved senses of superiority.

Re:Can we all agree? (0, Flamebait)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825591)

I think the problem came when blogs began to be associated with "journalism". Everything went wrong when journalists started to think they're inane personal ramblings were worth sharing with the world, and ordinary people starting thinking that their lives were somehow worth reporting to others.

It might not have gone that way, you know. Blogs could have stayed simple sites for sharing information about one's life with those who care and journalists could have presented their work on news and opinion sites which maintained journalistic standards. Instead, we get this catch-all phrase "blogs" to describe everything from a site that reports news, with fact-checking and editorial management to some Right-Wing half-assed history professor at a Christian "college" who thinks he's the new Edward R. Murrow, except he hates niggers, Mexicans and Islamoathiests who want to blow up his SUV and rape his wife and daughter, to some 17 year-old who writes about his WoW prowess, metal bands and how he runs linux on his Mom's computer.

It's really a shame, too, because now the word "blog" means exactly nothing, and newspapers, radio and television networks are racing each other to the bottom of the journalistic barrel, touting empty-headed opinions, fact-less reportage and basically linking to each other and thinking their work is done. So instead of a new Edward R. Murrow, we get an old Matt Drudge, who, let's face it, was useless to begin with, but is now the gawdfather of a crop of j-school dropouts for whom getting a press credential is the goal of their life, but who believe nothing and mean even less.

It's one of the ways our leader was able to start the Iraq War like a frat boy on summer break who throws a party at his parents house while they're away on a cruise. Everybody who could have made a difference by exposing the cock-up that was going to take place was too busy linking to Matt Drudge and trying to figure out how to use blogspot. Now they are all pretending it was somebody else who dropped the ball, wondering if they could somehow collect all their blog posts from the past 5 years and publish them as a book. I'm betting they will.

"Web log" is a technology (1)

TheManInYourHead (1045856) | more than 7 years ago | (#18826103)

"A blog (short for web log) is a user-generated website where entries are made in journal style and displayed in a reverse chronological order." -- Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

It is not a description of the content (think "wiki", "forum", "guestbook", etc...), so they can be used for a number of purposes. I myself have two web logs- one for communicating with my family and friends (since I live across an ocean from them), and another for a university class. I bet you could give two shits and a fuck about both of them, but they serve their purposes very well.

I share your disgust with the amount of uniformed nonsense being spouted and passed as jounalism, and it's horrible to think that they can influence on the weak minded, but there are some real gems out there with brilliant writing and observations (Matt Good [matthewgood.org] is one of my favorites- probably not yours), insane technical knowledge about your OS/programming language/car of choice, or just some nice pictures. In short, you have to take in the good (RSS is nice for this) and not visit the bad- just like you would do with newspapers, magazines, television shows, types of cheese, people, countries, etc...

Re:"Web log" is a technology (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 7 years ago | (#18831371)

I bet you could give two shits and a fuck about both of them, but they serve their purposes very well.

Correct.

Re:Can we all agree? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825277)

The not-as-clever-as-he-liked-to-think inventor was older than 12, you insensitive clod!

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

alphamugwump (918799) | more than 7 years ago | (#18826859)

Well, yeah. The right word would be "blogspace".

That's not to say that bloggers aren't moronic and pretentious and full of their own self-importance, but they are "real", and form a "real" community, which should have a real word to describe it.

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

Glowing Fish (155236) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824919)

I thought blogosphere was invented ironically, and was thus a great faux-buzzword.

I usually change it further, into "blogotubes" or "tubosphere", and then ask people devoutly pecking away at their laptops in coffeeshops whether they are "tubosphering"

But that is just me.

Re:Can we all agree? (2, Interesting)

walmartshopper67 (943351) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825607)

I'm just tired of having every website I have or am involved in called a "blog". It's not a goddamned blog, it's a website. That word makes me want to live in a little shack in the woods and spend the rest of my life having nothing to do with technology.

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

Yusaku Godai (546058) | more than 7 years ago | (#18829895)

Strongly agreeing here. Like, there's this radio show I listen to on the way to work where they always mention how you can 'blog' on their website, and how people are 'blogging'. No. Your site is not a blog. There's a goddamn forum you can post on. Not a blog. It's annoying.

Re:Can we all agree? (1)

jackv (1068006) | more than 7 years ago | (#18831051)

Without sounding like an aplogist, for bloggists , it's one of those terms that is short for web log. The problem is that there is an increase in it's use as a marketing mechanism , so it's lost the web log element

Slashdot? (3, Interesting)

charlieo88 (658362) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824445)

And where is Slashdot on the map, hmmmm?

Re:Slashdot? Or Discover? (4, Interesting)

kale77in (703316) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824531)

This looks like the fastest-obsoleted map in history. I give them twelve hours until every blog on earth green-links a certain article at Discover.

An image of the Blogosphere? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824479)

Does it look liek this? [hu-berlin.de]

Blogosphere mapped finally? (4, Funny)

rts008 (812749) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824489)

Now that we have tactical info, we can nuke it from orbit...only way to be sure.

Re:Blogosphere mapped finally? (1)

Null Perception (914562) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824815)

ROFL MOD PARENT UP

Re:Blogosphere mapped finally? (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824865)

Unfortunately, a target designator is needed on location in order to ensure accurate delivery. Care to volunteer?

Re:Blogosphere mapped finally? (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825245)

Hey, did you always have that red dot on your head? It's like, someone's pointing a laser sight at Slashdot.

Oh...

Re:Blogosphere mapped finally? (1)

benjiew (1091457) | more than 7 years ago | (#18827035)

And how do splogs fit into that map?

Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (0)

MrNonchalant (767683) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824495)

I'm going to try to pre-empt a whole bunch of comments here by saying that new technology and ways of thinking sometimes require new words. When that constitutes a buzzword, as opposed to a legitimate attempt to define something new, is sort of unclear [google.com] . However, I'm staking out the position that the inter-relation and rapid spread of topics seen in blogs requires legitimate new terminology. Although I'm well aware that some people here still regard blog as buzzword, even though it's been almost entirely mainstreamed.

MrNonchalant Not A Slashdot User (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824557)

Sometimes things are not what they seem, they negate and transcend reality to become something greater.

Re:MrNonchalant Not A Slashdot User (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824665)

Bingo, sir.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (3, Informative)

1010110010 (1002553) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824663)

"Blog" isn't a buzzword, it's just a really stupid word.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 7 years ago | (#18835759)

What extols affairs, bemoans and swears
Polls Rover your neighbors dog?
What's great for some flack a personal attack?
It's Blog, Blog. Blog!

It's Blog, Blog, its big, it's heavy, it could.
It's Blog, Blog, it's better than bad, it's good!
Everyone wants a Blog! You're gonna love it, Blog!
Come and get your Blog! Everyone needs a Blog!

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824669)

hahaha I love how nerds have to be in control of everything and feel empowered; comes with the job though I guess.

Get over it and just accept that blogosphere is here to stay.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825481)

While you're worrying about your MySpace profile, nerds will be busy inventing the Next Big Thing for you and your friends to fawn over. The "blogosphere" will last as long as it holds your attention..which is about 3 years, tops.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824833)

blog as buzzword


Oh, I don't take issue with the term "blog" but I do take issue with the pseudo-intellectual idiots who throw the term "blogosphere" around until I'd like to seem the be the star of a tragic farming accident. Most of them are self-important denizens of the tardosphere anyway...

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825067)

When the ENTIRE WORLD uses a term for something except for a small segment of the population that doesn't even participate in the phenomenon the term describes and just sits around and makes snide comments about everyone else, who are the self-important pseudo-intellectuals?

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825093)

Welcome to the tardosphere, like the tardis it's bigger on the inside and you're especially welcome.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (0, Redundant)

alienmole (15522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825163)

Newsflash: the ENTIRE WORLD includes more than just the denizens of your dormroom. "Blogosphere" is hardly mainstream, except amongst blogonerds.

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (1)

AdmiralWeirdbeard (832807) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825967)

online shopping sites have been responsible for more new tech and ways of thinking than blogs. What buzzwords have they created? E-Commerce? Nobody talks about the E-Commerceosphere, because that would be retarded. It takes a special brand of self-important wankery to designate one's favored Type Of Website as being worthy of its own Sphere. Blog may be mainstreaming, but blogosphere is meaningless tot, and anyone concerned with language for its own sake should be concerned.

Blogosphere part of the Socialsphere. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18829231)

That would be because blogosphere is a part of the socialsphere. While no one goes to an E-commerce site to be social. Guess which two are more important to a social species?

Re:Blogosphere Not A Buzzword (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18826665)

Its not so much that "blog" is a buzzwor, its just that "blogosphere" is quite possibly the stupidest, most irritating term ever hatched. Every time I see it, I feel overpowered by the sudden urge to stab the person using it, repeatedly, in the larynx, with a rusty spatula.

Spherical projection (2, Funny)

charlieo88 (658362) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824541)

I can understand not providing the sphere as maybe a little java applet that would allow readers to zoom in and/or rotate the sphere to get a better perspective. That would require more than a little effort.

But cartographers have been managing to project a two dimensional representation of a sphereical object for hundreds of years. Too bad they couldn't use some of that "map" technology to make the image more useful.

Re:Spherical projection (2, Insightful)

T-Bone-T (1048702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824587)

It started out 3D, why not keep it 3D? I do understand your sentiment. The experience was somewhat...lacking.

Re:Spherical projection (1)

navarroj (907499) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825451)

And why 3D? Just as an excuse to use the word Blogosphere?

Re:Spherical projection (2, Funny)

GrumpySimon (707671) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824617)

But the blogospherewebtwopointoh cannot leverage existing technologies! That would be agsinst the principle of long-tailedness! What this needs is some AJAX map projection system preferably built in Ruby on Rails with some sweeeeet 2.0 domain name like map.aumatic.us.

Re:Spherical projection (1)

tdvaughan (582870) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825517)

Cartogrophers map the earth, which is the surface of an (almost) sphere. Imagine the earth as a sphere full of interconnected tunnels. Now try to figure out how to map that in 2D and you'll see why the project mentioned didn't do that.

Re:Spherical projection (1)

T-Bone-T (1048702) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825617)

That would be extremely difficult, but it does not appear that the links are represented by tunnels, just lines that follow the curvature of the sphere.

Re:Spherical projection (2, Insightful)

charlieo88 (658362) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825655)

You didn't read the article, did you?

First, the map had no geographical component. Yep, could have been projected on a cube or a pyramid, wouldn't have made a difference. The sphere thing was just a gimmick. Now if he could only have projected it on something FLAT.

Bright spots (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824621)


you mean that look like Acne and Boils on the face of the Internet ?

Re:Bright spots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18826047)

That was so funny snot literally blew out my nose

Welcome to the Blogosphere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824733)

(Formerly known as Planet Dumbname)

Map on Map (1)

sciop101 (583286) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824745)

Remember the Internet Mapping Project?

http://www.cheswick.com/ches/map/gallery/index.htm l/ [cheswick.com]

Overlay (embed?) the Blogosphere map on an updated Internet map!

Maybe a "You are here" icon?

bad link take off the last / (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824921)

oopsies

Blogosphere != good naming but (1)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824829)

There are other things that are worse. Straight from Dr Dobbs Journal I bring you this headline:
"C++ STL Hash Containers and Performance" and if that is not good enough, the subtitle is: "Hash containers are powerful tools to add to your performance toolbox"

Even though I think blogosphere is a suck-ass buzzword which should be named after its past incarnation, "speaker's corner" I have to admit that there are worse word usage in the tech world.

Perhaps we might exchange blogosphere for "Internet whispers" in recognition of what the game "Chinese whispers" gave the world.

Fast on the heels of blogosphere is OpEd. Why don't we just call them Opinionated Editor's rants? Because people would simply shorten that to a soundbite of opedra?

People need catchy soundbites because it makes them feel informed when they use them, and not using them takes too many words.... Now we have a map woot! That helps. NOT

Chill dude... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18824995)

> Now we have a map woot! That helps. NOT

Yes, we're going to call it the bloherap.

Welcome to the blogosphere, we got your disease (1)

Glowing Fish (155236) | more than 7 years ago | (#18824981)

I also noticed that the title was "welcome to the blogosphere", which reminded me of the Guns n Roses song "welcome to the jungle"

"Welcome to the blogosphere we've got your disease..."

I think we should have a contest to see what other G'n'R songs can be remade to be about the intertubes.

Re:Welcome to the blogosphere, we got your disease (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825049)

I get up around seven
Get inma cube around nine
And I don't worry about nothin' no
'Cause slashdot is on works time.

Re:Welcome to the blogosphere, we got your disease (1)

Kenji Mapes (1091519) | more than 7 years ago | (#18829635)

Nice association Glowing Fish. I am still trying to make sense of this article, and the implications of the bogosphere while my cat prances across my keyboard.

Livejournal is a dim island? (3, Interesting)

Risha (999721) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825181)

I wonder where these numbers are coming from? I spend a lot of time on Livejournal, including some journals getting several hundred + hits a day as a matter of course. It's no 500,000 hits per day, but it's not as insignificant as that map shows. They're also linking out to unrelated blogs all the time, just like non-LJ blogs.

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

sfjoe (470510) | more than 7 years ago | (#18826489)

It's also importnt to remember that this doesn't show any sort of relation with rational thought. Number 4 shows one of the "brightest light belongs to syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin". For those of you not familiar, she's a right-wing radical who thinks that the imprisoning of Japanese-Americans during WWII was a really good idea and we need to do it more often.

There's your "blogosphere".

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18827327)

So it's kind of a Fascosphere, then?

Slashdot obviously resides within the Technosphere of mutually referencing technology sites.

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

khallow (566160) | more than 7 years ago | (#18828765)

I must gleefully crush your spirit. Slashdot is a community forum not a blog. So we shall never know...

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 7 years ago | (#18826681)

Yeah I'm curious by that too - people on LiveJournal link to other blogs all the time, just as much as other blogs I've seen.

Also you can set up feeds on LiveJournal which pick up blogs via their RSS feeds, which is probably a much more common way for people on LiveJournal to follow non-LJ blogs - I do hope that they weren't just going by old fashioned web links, that kind of misses the whole point of blogs and new technologies like RSS, and would make their image rather innaccurate.

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

dominique_cimafranca (978645) | more than 7 years ago | (#18827361)

The map traces incoming links to a site, instead of outgoing links. So I think it means that most links going into LJ sites are coming from LJ itself, instead of from outside that community. Hence, the island. Now I wish they had a map of outgoing links...

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#18827739)

I bought an issue of Discover for reading during a flight, and that did confuse me. I guess it's just a methodology issue there. I know that LiveJournal isn't "the" thing anymore, but it is pretty nice. I like the community, the parts I am in is generally far less juvenile than pretty much anywhere else.

Re:Livejournal is a dim island? (1)

F.J.Allison (1087389) | more than 7 years ago | (#18831105)

I wondered about that too. Keep in mind that it is a 2D image of "a 3D map of the blogosphere", presumably oriented for maximum clarity, so a minor-but-significant outlier like LiveJournal might have been swung out to one side so as not to eclipse the core image. If that's the case, we could be looking at the thin edge of a flat section, pressed up against the outside of the sphere to represent the low-link gulf. Even so, given the prevalence on LJ of syndicated feeds and such, I wouldn't be surprised if the map was misleading. But perhaps that's the narcissism talking.

More please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18825315)

There need to be more blogs by 20 something upper-middle class female professionals struggling to manage their love life and shoe collection while making their mark on the world in the big city!

I'd like to see this map... (1)

DrRevotron (994894) | more than 7 years ago | (#18825933)

...to prove my theory that the "blogosphere" is indeed the asshole of humanity.

Software used to map blogosphere (1)

netcastwide (1091405) | more than 7 years ago | (#18827289)

Following the links reveals that the software is based on a paper by King and Lu (2007), How to Classify Deaths without Physicians, which shows how to get "estimates considerably better than the existing approaches which included expensive and unreliable physician reviews, where three physicians spend 20 minutes with the answers to the symptom questions from each deceased to decide on the cause of death."

Question: This interview will only take a few minutes. Then you can go to your eternal rest. When did you start feeling stiff?

Deceased:

Question: What was your last meal?

Deceased:

Question: Sir, you're not being very cooperative. We do care. This information will help us make your experience more enjoyable. When did you first notice that you were unable to move?

What it should look like (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18827561)

If the 3-d model doesn't have a chain, a bowl and an s-bend then it's obviously wrong.

I just spent an hour (1)

begbiezen (1081757) | more than 7 years ago | (#18828341)

getting lost in the brightest light in blob number four, Michelle Malkin. I had never heard of her before. It was a good laugh for a while, but mostly sickening. Does this mean tons of people are reading crap from the likes of her? If so that's really depressing.

webosphere? (1)

passionfruit (1091373) | more than 7 years ago | (#18832651)

is there really such a thing as blogosphere? is it even a valid idea? why not call it the "webosphere"? heck, why not the "web" ? DUH!?? i have other words.. buzzword industry that feeds "crappy journalism".
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