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Soldat 1.4 Released

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the go-shoot-someone dept.

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FliesLikeABrick writes "Soldat 1.4 has finally been released. After 19 months since the announcement, this version adds multi-byte language support, many new features available to registered players, a ton of bugfixes, and a new lobby server and protocol. It took a lot of time and effort, but the largest update to Soldat has finally been posted and made available. While there are surely going to be some new bugs introduced, the new version is available for free at the game's site. From the site: 'Ladies and Gentlemen, I know you have all been (im)patiently waiting for Soldat 1.4. Thanks to all that contributed to this version. This version was a collaborative effort and it wouldn`t happen without you. ... So without further delay, it is with your encouragement, criticism and support from you all that I can happily release Soldat 1.4 to you all to enjoy. Please use the torrent link provided to help distribute Soldat 1.4 for others and ease server load, and seed for as long as you can.'"

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Zonked (5, Insightful)

TiCL (1063546) | more than 7 years ago | (#18923993)

A little one liner about what Soldat is would have been helpful.

Re:Zonked (2, Funny)

bssteph (967858) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924043)

And risk actually being informative to people who didn't likely already know because they care about the game?

This isn't convenientinformationinausefulmannerdot...

Re:Zonked (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924149)

Soldat is like multiplayer Quake but it's a 2D platform game. You run around the level, bounce from platform to platform, use jetpacks, and shoot other online players.

Re:Zonked (2, Informative)

Meadowhog (1094993) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924169)

It's a 2D FPS which I'm terrible at and quit in frustration a while ago. It's a neat idea though, it's like if someone crossed Counter-strike with Worms. It's pretty fast paced with low gravity but with realistic-style weapons.

(I just realized that 2D FPS is kind of an oxymoron, but just go with it)
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Re:Zonked (2, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924645)

It's more like someone crossed Counterstrike with Abuse [rocket-surgery.net] . Heh, I remember playing Abuse over LAN in the school CS lab way back when. I don't think those computers would even have run Doom.

Re:Zonked (5, Informative)

Bibz (849958) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924183)

Here is the main page: http://www.soldat.pl/main.php [soldat.pl]

Basically it's a 2D side scroller multiplayer shooter with lots of weapon.
Never played it, but it seems like a lot of fun :)

Re:Zonked (1)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924233)

A 2D online multiplayer shoot-em-up. Only game I play since I'm on a laptop without good 3D; I've been waiting for this for ages. :-)

Re:Zonked (-1, Offtopic)

donglekey (124433) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924691)

You can do anything at http://zombo.com/ [zombo.com]

Wheee (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18923995)

Finally a game so crappy no one cares to comment.

Great Game (1)

lessthanjakejohn (766177) | more than 7 years ago | (#18923997)

In high school we'd all play this game on fridays after quizzes in the computer lab

Mac, anyone? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924015)

Has anyone been able to get this working on a Mac? I'm not about to install Windows on here just to run Soldat.

Re:Mac, anyone? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924109)

No one cares, because Mac users don't suffer the kind of desperate, crushing loneliness that drives you PC users to video games in the first place.

You see, we Mac users have these acquaintances we call our "friends," with whom we can "go out" and "socialize," maybe having a drink or three, or shooting speedballs, or even stealing a casual fuck in the bathroom of Union Pool. Meanwhile, in your mother's basement, you're sobbing into your macaroni and cheese while trying to convince yourself you actually enjoy your video game hobby.

I'd write more, but I have to get ready for a show. Ta!

Re:Mac, anyone? (5, Insightful)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924133)

You see, we Mac users have these acquaintances we call our "friends," with whom we can "go out" and "socialize," maybe having a drink or three, or shooting speedballs, or even stealing a casual fuck in the bathroom of Union Pool.

PC Gamers get laid too you know. The main difference is that for us, it's usually with women.

LK

Re:Mac, anyone? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924399)

Implying Mac users are gay... really now, you still think that's some sort of insult? What kind of inbred, ass-scratching red-state yahoo do you have to be—oh, that's right. I forgot. PC user.

Re:Mac, anyone? (4, Funny)

Broken scope (973885) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924425)

He could have been implying you fuck your computers. I mean how often do I hear them described as "sexy".

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

moranar (632206) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925525)

Cue the references to the "lickable" interface. Excuse me, I'll just go gouge my eyes for a bit, be right back.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

Dobeln (853794) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924697)

"What kind of inbred, ass-scratching red-state yahoo do..."

A man?

Re:Mac, anyone? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18925061)

You tell him honey! ^_^ When I came out of the closet the Mac community was so understanding.

I loved the unity of being in a group of men who not only love pretty windows, but also love getting poked by other men.

See ya at the Genius Bar, maybe we can share a Genius!

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#18932695)

Implying Mac users are gay...

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Actually, I was implying that Mac users masturbate a lot. You get all excited about the smooth edges and pearly white colors on your machines and then you can't help yourselves. The fact that you read that as an accusation of homosexuality says much more about you than it does about me.

LK

Re:Mac, anyone? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924685)

PC Gamers get laid too you know. The main difference is that for us, it's usually with women.
So you're implying that Mac gamers get laid with men more often? Well, from that, logic would dictate that most Mac gamers are women. And their OS of choice has a BSD-like kernel underneath it. And they're gamers. And women. And...

Holy crap! You mean that all this time, if I were looking for Mac gamers, I'd find hot geek girls? Why didn't anyone tell me this? Now that you mention it, maybe I should get a Mac...

Re:Mac, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924869)

I think your vaunted logic overlooked what he was actually implying.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

PFI_Optix (936301) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926601)

Or he could be implying that there's no such thing as a Mac gamer.

http://www.roosterteeth.com/archive/episode.php?id =118 [roosterteeth.com]

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

644bd346996 (1012333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18928281)

Note: The above movie is only funny when you realize that Halo was originally intended as a Mac game, and that the guy in the movie makes a living playing Halo. Without that irony, it's just a nerd abusing Tchaikovsky.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

PFI_Optix (936301) | more than 7 years ago | (#18928785)

It's also funny for anyone who remembers the days when there truly weren't any games for the Mac.

Okay, there were a few...but the fact is, until OSX few developers wanted to mess with it.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

644bd346996 (1012333) | more than 7 years ago | (#18933455)

I'm a Myst fan, so I am inclined to say that there have been great Mac games since the DOS days.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047817)

I'm a Myst fan, so I am inclined to say that there have been great Mac games since the DOS days.

Windows 3.1 was around when Myst launched. There were Mac games around long before that though. If we ignore Jobs' boneheaded position that encouraging game development for the Mac would cause people to think of them more as toys than as legitimate business tools, even back in the late 80's there were still Mac games. I bought Sim City, Falcon 2.0 and Carrier Command for the Mac back in 1990.

LK

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

laejoh (648921) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925599)

You see, we Mac users have these acquaintances we call our "friends," with whom we can "go out" and "socialize," maybe having a drink or three, or shooting speedballs, or even stealing a casual fuck in the bathroom of Union Pool.

You keep using those words but I don't think you know what they mean :)

Re:Mac, anyone? (3, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924137)

It's not even open source. I ran the installer after seeing on slashdot expecting to see the friendly "GPL v2.0" message. No such luck. I don't know why a version increment of some freeware game gets to the main page.

Re:Mac, anyone? (4, Insightful)

seebs (15766) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924193)

Because Zonk is some kind of dysfunctional AI bot. I was just surprised that the post didn't end with a massively insipid question making it clear he didn't understand TFA. Maybe that's why there was no explanation of what it is; he didn't even look at TFA.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

EvilGoodGuy (811015) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924305)

Why would it matter if it's open source or not? This it under the Games section. It's game news. Just because it's not a game you're not interested in doesn't mean others aren't. I used to love the game and was happy to hear it brought up again so I can get some more kicks out of it. Why is any game update posted on /.? Because some subset of the readers is interested.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

Leto-II (1509) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924617)

It's not even freeware -- it's shareware.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

MoHaG (1002926) | more than 7 years ago | (#18933369)

I used to play it until became shareware....

They used real drug dealer sales techniques: Get you hooked on th nice freeware game, then change it to shareware...

Re:Mac, anyone? (3, Insightful)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925611)

We've had a dozen front-page posts about Starcraft 2, and it doesn't even exist yet. Should we ignore articles about it just because it's not going to be open-source?

Soldat is important because it doesn't rely on cutting-edge graphics; it revitalizes the 2D sidescroller genre from the days of Duke Nukem, long thought to be dead due to 3D graphics. The fact that Soldat is popular should come as a reminder to game development studios that we care about gameplay and fun more than graphics.

Re:Mac, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18927867)

"Soldat is important because it doesn't rely on cutting-edge graphics; it revitalizes the 2D sidescroller genre from the days of Duke Nukem, long thought to be dead due to 3D graphics."

What the fuck are you talking about? 2D has always been going strong. For instance the GBA (which has no 3D hardware at all) is outselling the Playstation 3. Odin Sphere, a 2D sidescroller RPG, is just coming out on PS2. Look on Xbox Live Arcade - Alien Hominid, Geometry Wars, Assault Heroes and tons of other 2D games. More than half of the games I own on DS are 2D games, as are most of the top sellers like New Super Mario Brothers, Brain Training and Pokemon. Little Big Planet, Sony's upcoming flagship PS3 game, is a 2D platformer. Super Paper Mario on Wii is mostly 2D, and Smash Brothers Brawl (sequel to the biggest-selling Cube game) will be a 2D fighter too.

Some of these games do use 3D rendering (although not "cutting edge", they all look pretty unimpressive next to e.g. the latest Need for Speed), but claiming that 2D games are dead is either ignorant or deceitful.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18930213)

Thanks, that was the whole point of my post. 2D games are not dead, but people like GGP think they are.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 7 years ago | (#18957161)

Way to go stuffing words in my mouth. I was complaining that it was a freaking version increment of a not-particularly-notable game. The only reason I could come up with for this to matter was if it was a GPL or other open source license game, as they are actually pretty rare. There are litterally hundreds of still-updated freeware 2d games out there, and why a version increment of this one was treated as news, I just don't get.

Re:Mac, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18971953)

Thanks, that was the whole point of my post. 2D games are not dead, but people like GGP think they are.
"The fact that Soldat is popular should come as a reminder to game development studios that we care about gameplay and fun more than graphics."

Hmm, I guess I misinterpreted your clearly written sentence stating something different (/sarcasm). :)

Anyway, the reason game devs don't make low-graphics games* is because they'd be competing against freeware like Soldat and they'd lose money. Soldat discourages development of similar games rather than encouraging it (I'm not complaining, we get free games :). Anything where a handful of people can bang out a freeware clone in their spare time is a bad proposition for a commercial developer.

*except on closed platforms like the GBA where (most) people don't have access to indie stuff.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#18932127)

Umm, since the 2D metroid games on the GBA failed so misserably... 3 years ago.

Sorry dude, 2D gaming is very much alive, and progressing.

VS... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18927485)

the friendly "GPL v2.0" message.

VS the hostile, nasty BSD licence?

*grumbles about GPL wankers*

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

ozphx (1061292) | more than 7 years ago | (#18935467)

This is news for nerds.

Not just news for rabid GNU/Hippies.

Re:Mac, anyone? (1)

MoHaG (1002926) | more than 7 years ago | (#18933435)

You might try it under Wine (see someone else's reply below...) if you have an Intel Mac. You need the latest Wine source code and the latest XCode. Simply extract it, open a Terminal window and follow the README / INSTALL instructions. Wine compiles go pretty fast on a Core Duo processor (A few (not more than 30) minutes...)

Dosent work in wine (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924037)

0.9.33 in ubuntu fails. so sad 8( panda is not amused.

Re:Dosent work in wine (1)

Mountaineer1024 (1024367) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925513)

Soldat 1.3.1 (the last version) worked perfectly under win 0.9.35 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=964 [winehq.org]
According to the Authors message, with a bit of tweaking 1.4 will work as well.

Isn't it a little old? (-1, Flamebait)

tftp (111690) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924039)

Soldiers fight against each other on 2D battle arenas

And the screenshots prove it. I never played it, but haven't games of that type started to get obsolete around 1990, right after the Wolfenstein 3D wiped the floor with them? As a reference, it's 2007 today :-)

Re:Isn't it a little old? (1)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924107)

Obviously you never played Gunstar Heroes

n00b

Re:Isn't it a little old? (5, Funny)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924111)

Yes, because once content becomes more than six months old it becomes immediately boring, un-entertaining. No one could ever enjoy playing a retro-styled game, or re-experiencing a game they enjoyed in the past. That's why emulators have no user-base whatsoever. It's also very clear that due to the limitations of 2D graphics, no one could ever invent new and involving forms of game play while limited to 2D, it just wouldn't work at all.

After all, fun analyzing new and more accurate forms of lens flare and ever higher resolution Bump maps! Trace the edges of shadows and how many pixels of blur they've got, and Count those triangles, yeah baby!

Re:Isn't it a little old? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924337)

You must really turn the ladies on when you wow them with your verve, sir. Gosh, you sure proved your manhood there.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924915)

Not to mention, that's in 2D! I mean, that's so ... 80s. How could a game like that be any good?

If you excuse me now, I'm still trying to beat Lemmings.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (1)

revengebomber (1080189) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925071)

Triangles are so 1999. Now it's all about the flabblemapping, vector transmajiggers, and virtualizerational memogagags.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (1)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#18933769)

Thank Goodness, I was afraid people would think I was making a serious post! For some reason, sarcasm tends to fly right over people's heads a lot on Slashdot. Something else I thought of while writing this post yesterday. Here's a list:

Lemmings

Cannon Fodder

Starcraft

Day of the Tentacle

Super Mario World

Tetris

Planescape: Torment

Chronotrigger

Gradius III

Simcity

SimEarth

Civilization

That's a list of 2D games of varying ages. Most of them are more than 10 years old, some of them are pushing 20 at this point. They're all considered classics of their various genres. If you can't have fun playing at least of a few of them just because they aren't 3D, then there is something wrong with you; you just aren't a gamer. You're just some kind bleeding edge hardcore techno-wanker.

I do not mean the list to be the best games ever made, and certainly not to assert that they are they the best representatives of their type. Its just a list of titles of games I could think of from various genres that I know are good. Not all of them will appeal to everyone, but a couple of them ought to have some appeal to every gamer. And I'm being Dead serious in this post.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (1)

Bagels (676159) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924145)

I know you're probably trolling. Still - no, "games of that type" are far from gone. I get plenty lot of mileage out of some games that have graphics on par with or worse than this (like NetHack, for instance, or Within a Deep Forest, or Cave Story, or N, or Seiklus). Certainly I don't turn to such games for eye-searing graphics, though under the correct circumstances they can be perfectly good looking just the same.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (3, Interesting)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924293)

I never played it, but haven't games of that type started to get obsolete around 1990, right after the Wolfenstein 3D wiped the floor with them?

Give it a try. It's better than most of the crap FPS that have been released lately, and one of the most addicting multiplayer games i've tried in years.

Re:Isn't it a little old? (2, Informative)

physicsnick (1031656) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925647)

Look at some of the reviews [soldat.pl] of this game:

Download.com ----- Score 4/5 + User reviews
The Underdogs ----- Soldat is a TopDog!
Gamespot.com ----- Score 8.6/10 ! Player testimonials.
acid-play.com ----- Reviewer Rating: 100%
GameSpotting Shareware ----- My new shareware addiction
gamefaqs.com ----- "Amazing, absolutely amazing!!!"
gamearena.com.au ----- 9/10 !
There are nearly two dozen reviews like this on that page alone. So no, 2D games are not obsolete.

We have a winner here... rating lies. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18924101)

Wow, this game got a 9.8 from gamespot and a 9/10 from gamearena? (so says their main website)

Go to gamespot... no official review.
Go to gamearena... no official review.

Hmm, they really seem on the up and up, don't they.

It's still fun.... (1)

Rhuken (972828) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924119)

Imagine the heated firefights of Counterstrike in a 2D sidescrolling, ragdoll kungfoo -esque package. It's nothing like that. (or is it?) But it's still fun.

Linux client? (2, Interesting)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924249)

I know i might be asking for too much... but does anyone knows if this gem of a game will ever have its own linux version? I LOVE Soldat, but have mixed sucess trying to run it under Wine.

Anyway, it's well worth a go if you never tried it before. It's not mentioned anywhere in the story, so, for those who haven't tried it, it's fast paced online deathmatch game, a-la-UT... in 2D, sporting "realistic" weapons (most borrowed from Counterstrike). It's easy to play, has very low hardware requirements, and its' gameplay is devastatingly addictive. That, and you can't beat bots that lay Arnie movie quotes [imdb.com] every time they frag you :)

Re:Linux client? (3, Interesting)

EvilGoodGuy (811015) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924289)

FTA:
"Known problems:
- Soldat crashes after starting or joining game.
If your video card does not support rendering to texture technology (really old cards pre-Geforce era) then the only way to run Soldat is by checking Video Compatibility in Soldat Setup (under `More` tab).
Checking Video Compatibility means that you won`t take advantage of the new font rendering engine (UNICODE and shadows won`t be supported). Also the minimap won`t work. This is also the current way to run Soldat on Wine."

So no Linux client, but it appears to run in Wine.

Re:Linux client? (1)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924303)

It runs (both in regular and 'video compatibility' mode, in my experience, though better in the latest), but nowhere as good as it should. Framerates sometimes drop for no particular reason, and i've had quite a few random crashes. It's a shame, as Wine can run some newer, fancier 3D games with no hitches...

Freeware vs Open Source (1)

FreeGamer (1001924) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925687)

Sadly this game is only freeware. If it were open source, I'm sure there would be enough people interested in porting it to Linux for there to be a native client. I don't understand freeware games. Why limit it to just being freeware? Why not make it really properly Free then the community can fix problems, can port code, can bring new features to the table. However that is the right of the author, to choose under what terms they can disclose their software. I just don't understand it. If you give the game away for free, why not make it Free Software and everybody wins? Nobody is going to steal your code - forks only usually happen for very good reasons (codebase stagnation and survival, different direction, etc).

Re:Freeware vs Open Source (1)

Mountaineer1024 (1024367) | more than 7 years ago | (#18952019)

Because despite what everyone in this thread is claiming, the game is not freeware. It's a form of shareware. The distinction is small as someone who hasn't paid for the game gets all of the gameplay related features for free. But if you pay you get a few ancillary features, such as the ability to set up multiple user profiles with unique key bindings etc. I paid for my copy because I felt the self satisfied feeling I got from supporting the author more than offset the tiny monetary price tag.

Re:Linux client? (1)

gatzke (2977) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926263)


It is not open-source and the graphics look like they were done in MS Paint.

2D? Crazy retro idea. I pull out the Super Mario on the Wii occasionally, but for like five minutes at a time if that.

And they are not even considering linux or mac support (from the FAQ).

How did this make it on /.? This is digg quality tripe.

Sweet!! (1)

EvilGoodGuy (811015) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924273)

Oh wow I'm excited. I used to love this game! To bad it had to come out during finals week haha. Screw graphics, I'd rather play a 2D scroller!!

Torrent? (2, Insightful)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924295)

It's strange how they want you to use the torrent to download this, and then seed, even though it's an online multiplayer game that surely you'll want to play the moment you've finished the download without having torrents running in the background.

Re:Torrent? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18925301)

Many torrent clients allow you to limit your upload speed. Also, ever heard of QoS [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Torrent? (1)

PurifyYourMind (776223) | more than 7 years ago | (#18931757)

Resume seeding when you're not playing? Surely you won't be playing 24/7.

To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (0, Redundant)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#18924957)

Yes, it's a 2D game. Boooooooring, I hear. Why? Because it's 2D? So all that is 2D is inherently booooooring and al that's 3D is by definition good?

Go play a bit Daikatana, will ya?

Personally I'd prefer a fresh idea with crappy graphics any day over the millionth C&C clone or the next big "run around, collect some ammo and kill the other players" game. I tend to play a fair lot if I have any spare time, and I've been there, done that and even got a few t-shirts. Yeah, call me a fanboy.

The point is that a game that doesn't rely on lenseflares and 200x anti-aliasing has to convince with content and gameplay to be any good. And those flares and graphic gadgets get old after a while. If nothing else, they immediately start to stink with the advent of the next generation in graphics. If graphics and eye candy is all a game has to offer, it will lose its "oohhhh shiny" quality very soon. What remains after a year of playing is whether the game itself is good or not.

Can you imagine playing Quake? The original one. The first. Or Unreal Turnament without those years tagged to it? How interesting would be a game of C&C? Again, the original one.

I tell you my pov: Boooooring. Sucky graphics and a boring gameplay. The gameplay stays the same with their current incarnation, but at least the graphics pull it out of mediocracy.

How about Civ2? Or Alpha Centauri? Railroad Tycoon? Industry Giant? Sim City 2000/3000? Hell, even a turn of the original Worms? Neither of those games was actually on top of the graphics line even when it came out, and still they're classics, and not in the sense that you look back fondly to those days when you played them, I can well see a lot of gamers dust off those boxes from time to time to install them again.

Because they were good, all by themselves. There was no smokescreen of graphics trying to hide the flaws.

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

BeardsmoreA (951706) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925051)

Er... C&C was and still is an amazing game in my opinion, I can't help feeling that you're bashing it just _because_ it had great gfx, sound etc. for its day, rather than because it was lacking anywhere else. And I went back and played it last about a month ago. (Yay DOSBox and WINE for old games :) !)

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (4, Insightful)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926345)

Good intellectually-dishonest nostalgia-laced gripe, but you made three fatal errors:

1) You trashed games that are still good when you play them today. Like Unreal Tourney and Command and Conquer. By what logic is Alpha Centauri a classic and Unreal Tournament not? If you wanted to trash 3D games simply because they're 3D, you'd have been better off trashing ones that, you know, actually were bad. Like Red Faction, or every Tomb Raider after the first one. Or something.

(For that matter, in what way is Civ II more "classic" than Civilization? Or SimCity 2000 more "classic" than SimCity? You're not even getting the nostalgia right! Older always = better!)

2) You're wrong saying none of those "classic" games had top of the line graphics when they came out. SimCity 2000 definitely made most computers chug when it came out, as did Civ II and Alpha Centauri.

3) You forgot to whine about how there are no Sierra adventure games anymore. That's requisite!

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

Khuffie (818093) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926397)

But...but...I liked Red Faction :( (the first one that is)

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926455)

Haha, fine. I'll pick one we can all hate: Superman 64.

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#18927861)

But... *I* liked Superma....

SORRY, couldn't continue typing that with a straight face!

Where are you getting THAT from? (2, Insightful)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#18926833)

Do you see ANYONE on Slashdot complaining about the graphics? This isn't Gamefaqs, many Slashdotters have found the Amulet of Yendor and insist that there haven't been any good games since Asteroids. If you want to complain about graphics whores try a website where people actually complain about bad graphics, as you can see the complaints here are about the lack of Linux support and the lack of opensourciness with a dash of "Why is this news?".

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

Tim_UWA (1015591) | more than 7 years ago | (#18927043)

It's a good thing that Sim City 2000/3000 make up for all those boring games that released equally boring and identical sequels.

Re:To all those "old game, snooze, bah..." bashers (1)

jfodale (1032534) | more than 7 years ago | (#18928003)

Man, I must be a mutant or something. The Assault gameplay of the UT series is among the best gaming out there to me.

Virus came packaged? (0, Offtopic)

Samdroid (1001824) | more than 7 years ago | (#18925691)

While installing Nod32 said there was the following virus. NewHeur_PE virus in \Soldat\is-KVOCO.tmp Anyone else getting the same thing?

Re:Virus came packaged? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18927121)

I think it's because of BattleEye anticheat engine this game uses.

Re:Virus came packaged? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18927623)

Its a false detection. Soldat.exe has been submitted to NOD32 and the next update(s) will probably remove it. The game is clean so no need to worry.

(I use NOD32 and got the same message)

cant find compatible server (1)

brenddie (897982) | more than 7 years ago | (#18928675)

couldn't find any server compatible with the new version of the client. Anyone has a server running for this new version?
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