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Censoring a Number

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the you-can't-copyright-that dept.

Censorship 1046

Rudd-O writes "Months after successful discovery of the HD-DVD processing key, an unprecedented campaign of censorship, in the form of DMCA takedown notices by the MPAA, has hit the Net. For example Spooky Action at a Distance was killed. More disturbingly, my story got Dugg twice, with the second wave hitting 15,500 votes, and today I found out it had simply disappeared from Digg. How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?" How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

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Not very long... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945719)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re:Not very long... (3, Funny)

r3m0t (626466) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945729)

On the very first post, even!

I guess everybody was scrambling to find it.

Re:Not very long... (1)

Major Blud (789630) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945761)

Weird how those numbers get pulled from Digg but the numbers like "1 L33t Haxor rulz 4 lyph todaly l33t!!!!!" Get Dugg up.

Re:Not very long... (1)

Poltras (680608) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945767)

I already found that number in some sigs before this article... Has slashdot been shut down yet? Don't think it will neither.

Re:Not very long... (5, Funny)

dr_strang (32799) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945805)

What would be cool is if everyone put the key in their sig.

Re:Not very long... (1)

parodyca (890419) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946021)

And Cory Doctorow [blogspot.com] received a C&D letter [craphound.com] for the same thing. On the advice of his lawyer he caved. I think he should get a new lawyer!

Re:Not very long... (1)

ObjetDart (700355) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946177)

On the advice of his lawyer he caved. I think he should get a new lawyer!

Why? IANAL but it sounds like good advice to me. The DMCA is clearly worded on this point and is hopelessly biased in favor of the rightsholders.

Until the DMCA gets changed and/or revoked, anyone who posts this kind of information on their web site is in serious legal danger.

Re:Not very long... (4, Funny)

dr_strang (32799) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946031)

Amazing. When combined with the output of a certain Riemann-zeta function, it comes out "COMSTOCK". /obscure.

Re:Not very long... (4, Funny)

smclean (521851) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946083)

That's funny, mine just produces a couple latitude/longitude pairs :)

Re:Not very long... (2, Insightful)

alex4u2nv (869827) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946053)

No need to scramble the string with numbers and words. Just use it as is, and add statistics google's [google.com] 1,010 hits.

Re:Not very long... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945775)

How long?

Not long

'cause what you 09

is what you C0

cheat mode (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945777)

Use
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 77 C0
instead and all actors in all scenes will appear naked.

Re:Not very long... (1)

sam_handelman (519767) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945791)

54 68 65 20 52 49 41 41 20 69 73 20 67 61 79 21

works better.

Re:Not very long... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945969)

Good effort but could have done w/o the homophobic slur here...

Re:Not very long... (5, Funny)

TypoNAM (695420) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945815)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's amazing! I've got the same IPv6 address on my luggage!

Re:Not very long... (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945975)

> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's amazing! I've got the same IPv6 address on my luggage!

That's a great key! I'm gonna use it on Spaceballs: The HD-DVD!

Oh damn ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945819)

... that's the combination for my suitcase.

Re:Not very long... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945841)

16 * 8 bits?
That really does seem to be on the short side. Is there some specific reason why they didn't go with a 1k key or something?

Re:Not very long... (3, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946047)

Yes, they had a huge code, but there wasn't enough space in the margin to fit it in.

Re:Not very long... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945845)

Shame on Digg to succumb to the 'threats'.

P.S.: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re:Not very long... (-1, Redundant)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945879)

That's amazing, I've got the same combination on my luggage!

Re:Not very long... (0, Offtopic)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945945)

Ah shit. I posted 3 seconds after the first guy to make joke. Adios Karma... :/

Re:Not very long... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946179)

That's ok it would have been reduntant anyway.

Re:Not very long... (1)

Anonymous Cowpat (788193) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945925)

oh for crying out loud! that's what it is.
I saw it on an earlier comment to something else and tried typing it into a hex convertor to find out what the secret message was!
\me kicks the /. community

Re:Not very long... (5, Funny)

mmontour (2208) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946147)

I saw it on an earlier comment to something else and tried typing it into a hex convertor to find out what the secret message was!
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.

Re:Not very long... (5, Funny)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946001)

Damn it Locke! I don't care if the world ends! I'm not typing in those damn numbers every 108 minutes!

Attention Webmasters! (3, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946009)

Put this number on your front page somewhere as a protest!

Re:Not very long... (2, Interesting)

IgLou (732042) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946059)

I now know what my new sig is... Thank you!

Re:Not very long... (4, Insightful)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946069)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

...anyone else just print out this number to stick on their wall? Let 'em try to pull the sites down; I doubt they'll be able to ransack the collective homes/businesses that now have this in hard copy. I've not laughed this hard since Sony's $1-Sharpie-Workaround.

Re:Not very long... (1)

toriver (11308) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946103)

I foresee a ThinkGeek T-shirt with the codes on.

Re:Not very long... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946211)

I foresee me buying it.

Re:Not very long... (1)

Chysn (898420) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946157)

I... I looked at the code... My eyes.... they burn! My face... it's melting!

SOVIET RUSSIA (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946159)

In SOVIET RUSSIA, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 censors you!

a few seconds (2, Informative)

kunkie (859716) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945725)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re:a few seconds (0, Redundant)

jaymzter (452402) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945893)

So the combination is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life. That's the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE 'SPACEBALLS' JOKE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945961)

FOR THE FOURTEENTH TIME

Well (1)

dr_strang (32799) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945731)

Guess we'll see. Story got greenlit, so the key shouldn't be too long in coming.

The magic key is... (1, Funny)

mmxsaro (187943) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945747)

00:00:de:ad:be:ef:12:34

Re:The magic key is... (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946131)

Sorry mate, your version of the player must have been updated.
That key is just uninitialised memory.

Ah My! (4, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945751)

It's amazing to see just how worthless and futile DRM is. It penalizes the poor saps who don't have the know-how to override it. As for the rest, and that includes the pirates, it's no obstacle at all.

If you had a lock that kept out only the people you actually wanted in, but couldn't keep out those that were actually going to rob you blind, one would think that your solution might be a little more robust than "I'll see anyone who reports how badly my lock works".

Re:Ah My! (4, Insightful)

CokeJunky (51666) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945885)

Actually, it penalizes the rich saps who don't have the know-how to override it. The poor saps can't afford the movies and music at the current prices of such things.

Re:Ah My! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945891)

I'll see that and raise you a sue.

Re:Ah My! (4, Interesting)

KillerCow (213458) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946151)

It penalizes the poor saps who don't have the know-how to override it. As for the rest, and that includes the pirates, it's no obstacle at all.


There's a saying in the (physical) lock business. I am not in it, so I may have the wording wrong, but the gist is:

Locks are to keep honest people honest.


In the safe business, safes are rated by how long they take to crack. They never claim to be uncrackable.

Trying to make DRM better than locks and safes in the real world is futile.

All hail /. (2, Informative)

.Chndru (720709) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945753)

For all its craziness, /. truly is da place to be! They walk the walk :)

Beowulf ? (1)

BeoCluster (995566) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945755)

Can I make a Beowulf Cluster to rip HD-DVD and BlueRay disks like the dvdrip perl program ?

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 (5, Informative)

freakmn (712872) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945779)

I was amazed at the quickness of the censors, when I clicked on the link here, and got the "Nothing to see here, please move along." message. I've often seen people say that they got that message, but was never quite sure if it actually happened. This time it did. In cooperation with the summary, here's the number: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 (1)

Saint Aardvark (159009) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946033)

Arghhh...I'd post this on my blog -- hosted in Canada -- but (long story) I'm going to be moving it to a Linode account shortly for about three months, right before I go on vacation. Last thing I want is to come back to a takedown notice, esp. since there are a bunch of other websites on the machine as well.

This is exactly why I wanted to avoid hosting in the US. Canada isn't perfect (see: hate crime legislation), and I've no doubt there are lots of ISPs that would buckle automatically to a foreign takedown notice, but these kinds of laws are just ridiculous.

Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 (5, Funny)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946113)

I also hear there is a website devoted 2 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by some guy in Scottlande or someplace. They say he's really crazy 'cuz his wife went into labor the day discovered 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 an she wouldn't let him look at 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 so when they got home from the hospital he cut her up and buried her in teh yard and then ate his own baby with some chips, oh delicious chips. So they caught him but he managed to memorize 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 and smuggled it into prison with him and the other convicts tried too take it away from him in the shower so he cut them up and ate them to, in fact he went on a rampage and ate all th prison guards with some chips, oh delicious chips. And then he sat down at th warden's desk and stared at 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 only stopping when he had 2 pee in a potted plant in th corner of the room. After memorizing 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 he found th prison surrounded by teh Army and there was a guy on a bullhorn named Dr. Quartermass who was telling him 2 put down teh fork and come out with his hands up. But he managed to escape through the sewers and they couldn't catch him but they found his bag of chips, oh delicious chips. They say he's still hiding too this day in th mountains of Scotchland, th Alpes, updating his website with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 every day. They also say of your are backpacking in the Alpes that you'd better not carry any chips, oh delicious chips. They say they'll never catch him 2 because there are laws that protect mountain people and the police are scared too go up there. But he has 2 come to a city once a month on teh seventh day and he breaks into a house that has a computer and he types 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 over and over and he eats anyone at home with chips, oh delicious chips. So the police are hoping to catch him when he goes 2 the city but so far he's eaten over 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 people and 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 bags of chips, oh delicious chips so it seems like there is no stopping him. You may think I'm making all this up but it's the truth and I know it cause I asked my friend who works at the MPAA and it said it's true so it is.

Who knows?? (4, Funny)

Bl4d3 (697638) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945783)

Finally a use the Anonymos Cowards ;)

Woah (1)

jackd (64557) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945785)

Spooky. Clicked on "Read more..", got "Nothing to see here. Please move along."

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir2082/1178048838_8 289.gif [imgplace.com]

Re:Woah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945937)

That's just slashcode being tweakish. Stories making it to front page and being open to all users aren't always synchronized.

Source (4, Informative)

W2k (540424) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945787)

I would post the processing key, but I'll link to the original posting instead:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pag e=6 [doom9.org]

I recommend interested slashdotters read the thread, there's a lot of interesting context to the discovery.

Look what I found (1, Redundant)

fittekuk (1033554) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945795)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Remember De-CSS? (4, Interesting)

sesshomaru (173381) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945809)

How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?
Or better yet, on T-Shirts sold to benefit the Electronic Frontiers Foundation?

Remember De-CSS?

Re:Remember De-CSS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945881)

Doh! I was just gonna suggest T-Shirts!

Re:Remember De-CSS? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945997)

I bought a DeCSS shirt and wore it through airplane security, into courthouses, and so on. If a worthy organization made a 3X tee shirt (I'm a fatass) with the code on it, I would do the same.

Google Mirror (5, Funny)

algae (2196) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945827)

Re:Google Mirror (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946023)

That's not a mirror; that's a URL that forces the data to be loaded in the linked si...

Oh, forget it.

Re:Google Mirror (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946061)

Awww, only ~1,000 hits so far. Surely we can do better than that, Slashdot!

How about as a mix (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945833)

Like:
If someone was interested in breaking the current hd-dvd scheme they'd want to know all about:
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3
followed by five 'bee' then
D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88
and finally
'cee' zero

How can that possibly be DMCA'd...

I hope we'll all stop it soon. (5, Insightful)

Tiger Smile (78220) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945849)

Time to get out and use the old pen to write a nice little letter to my congress critter.

I'm all for someone using their rights to protect what is their's. Not a problem, but when it dictates what they can do with the things they own, and speech, I think it has crossed a line I'd rather it not cross.

Some say Americans just take the abuse and can't see what the big deal is, unless it might cause re-runs of Friends to be pulled. Some people say Americans are sheep and will go where a select class of people point for them to go. I have sometimes seen these rights dry up a little when not constantly defended, and I start to think American's are lemmings, not sheep.

I guess I'm just as guilty as everyone else. I'm no fool. I can see I'm like that also, but I'm trying really hard to be different.

Short Answer: It all stops when we all stop it.

Magic Key (1)

imbezol (588268) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945857)

OP:EN:SE:SA:ME:PL:EA:SE

Hex Art (4, Informative)

MythMoth (73648) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945883)

I liked this version... [metaatem.net]

AnyDVD-HD ? (1)

Brit_in_the_USA (936704) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945887)

On a related note there is the AnyDVD-HD program recently released. Are they constantly fighting legal battles?

Don't use this one (5, Funny)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945899)

04 08 15 16 23 42

Re:Don't use this one (5, Funny)

TonyZahn (534930) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946175)

That code seems to work, but for some strange reason I have to re-enter it every 108 minutes...

Re:Don't use this one (1)

stormeru (1027946) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946197)

I'll use these as my numbers for the next 6/49 lottery.

Bumper sticker? (1)

pclminion (145572) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945927)

I want to get this printed up on a bumper sticker. Can anyone recommend a good vendor?

Re:Bumper sticker? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946205)

http://www.stickernation.com/ [stickernation.com]
High quality vinyl

Incoming stories (4, Insightful)

Deorus (811828) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945929)

I've been frenetically digging up incoming stories about this. This is nolonger about the key itself but one's freedom of speech. This demonstrates the worst of the DMCA and how it's being used to harm people's freedom and fair use rights.

Re:Incoming stories (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946185)

So given the usual flippant editorial comment here:

How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

and the predictable result in terms of 90% of early comments to this thread, exactly how safe is Slashdot under the various safe harbour-style protections of relevant US law?

Bittorrent (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945951)

09

Re:Bittorrent (4, Funny)

EllisDees (268037) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946125)

F9

Decimal version (2, Informative)

pclminion (145572) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945955)

Treating that number as a big-endian quantity, the representation in decimal is:

13256278887989457651018865901401704640

Re:Decimal version (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946165)

Aren't you looking for a prime? That one isn't prime...

Poetry Contest (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18945959)

Oh nine, eff nine, one one oh too!
Nine dee, seven four, eee three, five bee.
Dee ate for one,
Five six,
See five,
Six three, five six, ate eight sea oh!

Tag It! (4, Insightful)

SilentOneNCW (943611) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945963)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Seriously, tag it.

Civil Disobedience (5, Insightful)

ewhac (5844) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945973)

I repudiate the DMCA, and all who would enforce it. It is a corrupt law, born of a corrupt process, in the service of corrupt people. As such, I will not respect or observe it, and you shouldn't, either.

The media processing key for AACS is: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Schwab

Easy way to remember, kind of (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945977)

Now typing '09 F' in Google Suggest brings it up.

*Sigh* (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 7 years ago | (#18945995)

It's DeCSS all over again.

Hmmm.... (0, Offtopic)

Otter (3800) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946005)

How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador)...?

Don't sweat it -- Evo Morales will probably have disbanded the legal system by the time your case gets that far. Just hope your site isn't nationalized first.

Here's why DRM fails (1)

ZachPruckowski (918562) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946007)

All that is needed for AACS to be cracked is for one guy to break it. Out of a few hundred trying. Then they pass it along to everyone else. Even if the crack ultimately requires hardware alterations, you only need a few rippers to get 75% of the major releases. AACS may ultimately succeed in making an unlicensed player impractical, but it won't stop pirates and hackers.

Is this really supprising? (1)

emil10001 (985596) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946017)

Didn't this happen with DVD's also? Wasn't there a big thing about that t-shirt with the CSS key on it?

So, I can see the libs for this getting pushed to servers located in countries where consumers are allowed to consume the content that they paid for, similar to the current dvd situation. So, for me, I only add the repository of whatever server, or even visit said server myself (perhaps with a secure, or tor connection) to download the library for my own use.

So, while I don't agree that it is "right" to "censor a number," it won't really affect me, or anyone else interested in seeing said number. That is, if I decide to go ahead and purchase that DRM'd crapware, which probably won't be any time soon.

On second thought, to be safe, I should probably grab said lib now.

Here's a "how to" from ubuntu on the subject. [ubuntu.com]

I do believe this particular cat ... (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946049)

... is out of the bag [google.com] .

FP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946063)

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0'th post!

who will win... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946067)

if it turns out this number is long enough to be copyrighted...couldn't mplayer just do a brute force search--and start it at some random number close to the actual number...then the brute force search could continue for a few seconds until it magically hits the right key--- it's like a 'lucky seed'

Some high profile sites have this number (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946075)

I just noticed that [hidebehind.com] http://www.hidebehind.com/ [hidebehind.com] (free image/movie host) has this in hex down at the bottom of many of their pages. It doesn't look out of place with all the hex codes in the site..
Neet!

Hmm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946081)

Is there a walk through on how to use this number? If such a resource exists, that might convince a few of my friends to finally see the light in linux..

For those keeping score at home.... (5, Funny)

ReverendLoki (663861) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946087)

The score so far:

Posts mentioning the infamous hex 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0: 25
Posts remarking how they have the same number as their luggage combination: 5

Stay tuned, folks, the game ain't over yet!

Mirror (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#18946095)

The server is probably going to catch fire soon, because it's sloooooow. Here's the text of TFA. Posting AC to avoid lawsuits :)

Spread this number

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. Wanna know what's so important about it?

...Welcome, Diggers and Redditors -- we're serving 15 hits per second, so try and be patient. If you have some extra time, here's how to make WordPress weather bad traffic storms (middle-click the link). Back to our regular programming...

The movie industry is threatening Spooky Action at a Distance for publishing that number, specifically with copyright infringement.

I had no idea a number could be copyrighted.

Anyhow, what is it? From the site:

It's the HD-DVD Processing Key for most movies released so far. I was not aware that a string of numbers and letters was copyrightable. Perhaps its just my ignorance but it seems that someone is abusing the DMCA again.

This means the (admittedly long) number is precisely the key you need in order to decrypt and watch HD-DVD movies in Linux (oh, okay, maybe software is also required). And the fact that it's out there, spreading like wildfire, is killing the types at the movie studios right now.

Now, even if this number stopped working (and it will, thanks to the revocation procedures in HD-DVD's encryption scheme) or if it were a hoax, the decryption system has already been figured out and is implemented in a software program called BackupHDDVD.

We did it with DVDs and DeCSS, and today I can use my trusty MPlayer to play any DVD movie. We will eventually (rather soon) view HD-DVDs in Linux as well (because the codecs are already there, even if they are illegal in some countries).

Let's show them no amount of DMCA will stop us.

Oh, do you crave for source code? Let the Doom9 forums answer your prayers. If you'd like an explanation in news format, WIRED may be what you were looking for.

Apologies to Diggers worldwide for the downtime. The traffic storm forced me to turn certain functionality off, yet I'm still seeing more than 40 hits per second at the console. I don't want to sound like a tinfoil hatter, but Digg censored my initial submission and nixed my user account (RuddO). Fortunately, charitable souls posted a new link. The Digg button at the right should work now. Thanks and keep the hits coming.

Alert! Digg.com is issuing 404 Not Found on all of its pages. Please confirm this independently, and keep spreading the word through other means. Everything is back to normal at Digg, but the original story just vanished.

People at the Digg story are suggesting a Googlebomb with the words HD-DVD and BluRay pointing to this story. Do Googlebombs still work?

Digg censored the second story submission again, and all others as well. For the record, the story was censored at around 15700 Diggs, and we suspect it broke several records. Anyway, the story got propelled to Reddit's front page and to Del.icio.us popular, so it's reaching people steadily -- all that's left now is to be Slashdotted. I'll publish an article telling the graphical story later today.

09 V4 8G 57 BK SD DT GG AM OL HL D2 60 (2, Informative)

scottsevertson (25582) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946097)

I wonder if they'll be searching for the number in different forms... Like base 32?

Aside: looks like *someone* killed the Digg story that included the number after a ROT-13 transform (http://digg.com/tech_news/A_useful_copyrighted_st ring_use_the_linked_URL_to_get_your_desired_target ). Anyone want to place bets on whether Digg preemptively killed that story versus received a takedown notice? I'm guessing the former.

Isn't this the key that was revoked? (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946127)

If so then why the attempt at censorship.

Oh good... (1)

vonPoonBurGer (680105) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946129)

...I needed a new sig anyway.

Wikipedia article on the number is down too. (5, Insightful)

sabre86 (730704) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946143)

When I read this slashdot post, the first thing I thought was "I bet there's a wikipedia article on it!" Sure enough, either somebody has posted one and it's been deleted and protected, or the editors went ahead and jumped on it and protected it [wikipedia.org] . (I haven't checked yet, though there are "additional information links. Nor have I check it in other bases.)

Guess I should look into postng this to one of the "anti-censorship on wikipeida" sites.

For what it's worth, this is utter crap, but it shows a severe weakness in copyright law. Anything that can be represented with data, anything at all, can be encoded/encrpyted on anything else, given an arbitrary coding mechanism. For instance, let us create "sabre86's stanard coding scheme": add 1 to any number. After encoding we have 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1. Look, it's a different number! I guess it isn't a circumvention. Or is it?

You can extend this logic arbitarily to anything, so that not only can any string represent any other string (and thus be a "copy"), any string can be the key to an encoding scheme, meaning that posting any string is "circumvention" if I see fit to describe my encryption process such that it encrypts/encodes a copyrighted work using that string as a "key."

So all strings are copyrighted because they can derived from other copyrighted strings through an arbitrary encoding scheme and all strings are potentially circumventions of DRM/CRAP because they are both a representation of a known key in a different encoding and the key for some other arbitrary encryption algorithm that "circumvents the copyright protections."

Bullshit

--sabre86

Posting keys on the web. (1)

raidient (751898) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946187)

Just have two separate sites each post half of a key. They would have to argue that a site should be taken down just because it contains *some* of the numbers in *their* key.

Dugg? (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 7 years ago | (#18946201)

What the author does not mention, of course, is that he paid $100 twice to get on digg. No wonder he's so pissed now.
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