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Canadian Coins Not Nano-Tech Espionage Devices

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the reality-is-always-funnier dept.

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Necrotica writes "An odd-looking Canadian coin with a bright red flower was the culprit behind the U.S. Defence Department's false espionage warning earlier this year. The odd-looking — but harmless — "poppy coin" was so unfamiliar to suspicious U.S. Army contractors traveling in Canada that they filed confidential espionage accounts about them. The worried contractors described the coins as "anomalous" and "filled with something man-made that looked like nano-technology," according to once-classified U.S. government reports and e-mails obtained by the AP."

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wow (4, Funny)

ArcSecond (534786) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021061)

Just wow.

Re:wow (0)

cpt_lare (1095191) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021105)

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Re:wow (4, Insightful)

neoform (551705) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021113)

No kidding "wow"..

It was a Remembrance Day (ww2) coin.. why would this strike anyone as suspicious? As for the "man-made" bit.. well, it's a coin.. who'd they expect made it?

Shhhhhhhhh!!! You'll blow our cover!!! (4, Funny)

arcite (661011) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021685)

1. Celine Dion

2. Jim Carrey

3. nano-tech coins...

4. ????

5. Profit? ...No my friend. WORLD DOMINATION! MWahahahah!!

Re:Shhhhhhhhh!!! You'll blow our cover!!! (0)

Wandering Wombat (531833) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021729)

You forgot "Shatner".

Re:wow (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021711)

WW1, actually:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/remembranceday/

blacks ftw (-1, Offtopic)

Dick McBeefy (1098175) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021115)

we've got your women. soon we will take the white house. he.

it's our time now.

Re:wow (5, Funny)

jcorno (889560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021133)

It "looked like nano-technology"? Those contractors have really good vision.

Re:wow (2, Informative)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021309)

Can Light Microscopes see Nano-scale devices? (1)

quanticle (843097) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021453)

I'm not sure that nano-scale structures are visible with conventional light microscopes. I was always under the impression that you'd have to look at the thing with an electron microscope to see the "nanotech" features.

Re:wow (5, Funny)

asninn (1071320) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021313)

We should put these guys in charge of airport security etc. - I bet they can identify terrorists just by looking at them, too. "Hey, he's got a turban! And a beard! It's ONE OF THEM!"

Re:wow (4, Funny)

Wandering Wombat (531833) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021769)

"No, Cal, that's another burn victim wearing a bandage. PLEASE calm down."

Re:wow (2, Interesting)

Goobermunch (771199) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021457)

From TFA: "'It did not appear to be electronic (analog) in nature or have a power source," wrote one U.S. contractor, who discovered the coin in the cup holder of a rental car. "Under high power microscope, it appeared to be complex consisting of several layers of clear, but different material, with a wire like mesh suspended on top.'" --AC

Re:wow (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021871)

It "looked like nano-technology"? Those contractors have really good vision.

To a defense contractor anything looks like nano-technology these days.

Re:wow (3, Funny)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021173)

Any similar reports about the pink ribbon breast cancer quarters?

I'll tell you a secret... (4, Funny)

arcite (661011) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021747)

Assemble a breast cancer ribbon, AIDs pin, a Remembrance day poppy, Canada pin, and a Nano-tech coin, it forms a miniature thermonuclear device of ultimate destruction.

I guess this means ... (5, Funny)

Bearpaw (13080) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021601)

I guess this means we shouldn't have preemptively invaded Canada. [shrug] Oh well. We can't leave now, or there'll be a bloody civil war between Quebec and everyone else up there. Besides which, this is our best chance to spread democracy and freedom in North America.

Conspiracy? (5, Interesting)

Tuoqui (1091447) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021065)

Man this has tinfoil hat written all over it... Why wasn't the contractor given a government issued one?

I mean really, nanotech in coins? They use nanotech in computer processors and look how much time and effort it takes to make one of them.

Re:Conspiracy? (1)

qwerty shrdlu (799408) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021257)

Even those who are concerned with this very issue know that Canadian coins are harmless: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html [zapatopi.net]

Obligatory Canada-bashing: (0, Flamebait)

Randolpho (628485) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021471)

Even those who are concerned with this very issue know that Canadian coins are harmless: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html [zapatopi.net]
s/harm/worth/



P.S. No Canadians were harmed during the making of this admittedly stupid joke.

Old news? (3, Informative)

ArchdukeChocula (1096375) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021077)

Espionage devices or not ... (5, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021085)

... they still don't work in American vending machines or toll booths ... and thats what really matters, isn't it?

Did you mean (5, Funny)

Frequency Domain (601421) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021215)

...and that's what really matters, eh?

Better Safe Than Sorry (3, Funny)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021093)

I'd rather have these folks a little paranoid because you never know [google.com] when a suspicious looking item really is being used for espionage.

Re:Better Safe Than Sorry (2, Insightful)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021279)

I was telling myself that if I was a spy and my target was american, I think I'll try using something that looks like a nickel, not an odd-looking foreign commemorative special edition coin. OTOH, you may expect the guy to keep it as a souvenir instead of using it in a vending machine. Anyway, swapping his watch, phone or pen seems the better solution, it is slighly harder to perform, but once it's done, the guy is bugged with something apparently harmless he wants to keep whith him anywhere he goes.

Re:Better Safe Than Sorry (1)

Vellmont (569020) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021365)


I'd rather have these folks a little paranoid because you never know when a suspicious looking item really is being used for espionage.

I'd rather the government have a little credibility rather than crying wolf about a coin that's been public knowledge for more than 2 years. I was suspicious if you didn't know anything about the coin, it just never should have been released as a public warning.

State of Fear (4, Insightful)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021097)

Kind of expected in a state of overly paranoid affairs. Paranoia is where rationality gets thrown out of the window.

Re:State of Fear (2, Insightful)

ReTay (164994) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021145)

"Kind of expected in a state of overly paranoid affairs. Paranoia is where rationality gets thrown out of the window."

Yeah but the great thing about paranoia is you only have to be right once for it to all be worth while. :)

Actually paranoia is harmful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021517)

I can't find the link but I saw a story the other day about the effect that our increased border security is having on the tourist industry. Foreign visitors fear the border officials more than they fear terrorists. The result is many billions of lost revenue, several billion in lost taxes and a loss of something like 160,000 jobs.

I'm sure the Slashdot crowd can come up with many other examples of how our stupid paranoia is helping to kill the economy.

Here's a link (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021779)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id =2&objectid=10436518 [nzherald.co.nz]

Also from May 1 BoingBoing:

"US war on terror is a war on tourists, too
America is rated the world's most unfriendly destination for foreign travellers in a recent global poll. The War on Terror (which includes a $15 billion fingerprinting program that humiliates every visitor to America's shores and has yet to catch a single terrorist) has destroyed America's tourist industry, killing $94 billion worth of tourist trade, and 194,000 American jobs.

        In a recent poll of international travellers, commissioned by Discover America Partnership, a coalition of US tourist organisations, 70 per cent of respondents said they feared US officials more than terrorists or criminals. Another 66 per cent worried they would be detained for some minor blunder, such as wrongly filling out an official form or being mistaken for a terrorist, while 55 per cent say officials are "rude."...

        Such comments, and the poll results - which rate the US by a 2:1 margin as the world's "most unfriendly" destination for foreign travellers - are found in "A Blueprint to Discover America," unveiled in January by Discover America Partnership to halt a dramatic decline in foreign visitors.

        According to the blueprint overseas travel to the US has slumped 17 per cent since 2001, even as world travel to other countries reaches historic growth levels. The decline has cost US$94 billion ($127 billion) in visitor spending, US$16 billion in tax receipts, and some 194,000 American jobs. Many poll respondents said that visiting the US had become a hassle and that they would take their holiday money elsewhere. "

Re:State of Fear (4, Informative)

gvc (167165) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021847)

Yeah but the great thing about paranoia is you only have to be right once for it to all be worth while. :)
Fallacy. The value of any sort of test or alarm depends on its positive predictive value; that is, the probability that when the alarm is raised, it is for cause. Paranoid judgments have essentially 0 predictive value. They are harmful because they divert resources from efforts with higher predictive value, and due to the direct undesirable consequences of responding to false alarms.

Re:State of Fear (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021377)

If you tried to pull off some of the illegal crap that this administration has been pulling, you would be paranoid too. The no-talent political apparatchiks they have installed in all parts of government have good reason to be paranoid about screwing up too. No wonder it permeates the US government.

Re:State of Fear (1)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021555)

1- Paranoia doesn't mean you're not actually a target. Actually, anyone who has access to data worth stealing might be targetted by a spy, but don't worry, it's usually painless.

2- People like this man are expected to be suspicious when they see something odd. In that case, that leaded to useless investigation of something mundane to the point of being ridiculous (and a good occasion to have mock the apparent low tech of US currency), but that "better safe than sorry" is the expected behavior in some proffessions.

Remembrance Day coin? (4, Insightful)

MrJynxx (902913) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021123)

Aren't those the special Tim Hortons(Canadian version of crack in a cup) Remembrance Day coins they gave out a few years back? Funny they thought it had a microchip in them. Man some people can be so naive.

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

tzhuge (1031302) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021273)

In all fairness to the Americans. Those coins were like the first (only?) coins in the world with color painted on the metal. For those who haven't seen one, they have a red poppy in the center.

I think it's reasonable for these guys to be a bit paranoid. Of course... they probably could have taken the time to Google the coins before raising any flags about nano-tech spying devices.

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021579)

Paranoia is NOT reasonable. Period. By definition.

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021865)

...sure, if you lead a normal life... If, on the other hand, you seem to attract more improbable events than the Scarlet Witch [marveldirectory.com] , then paranoia can actually be helpful...

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

Metaphorically (841874) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021417)

Um, no, Tim Horton's is not the mint [www.mint.ca] .

I think that might be where I got my first one as well though :)

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

Hemogoblin (982564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021461)

Technically, they were legal tender and supplied by the mint. I think Tim Hortons was just a sponsor or something and sold the quarters in coin-rolls in their coffee shops.

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (1)

basic0 (182925) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021515)

Yes they are. This year I believe they distributed coins with pink ribbons for breast cancer awareness. I mean, I'm all for remembering the sacrifices of our veterans and fighting breast cancer, but I can't help thinking: "Man, our money is so GAY!"

As a sidenote, we Canadians do have both Second Cup and (Star|Four|Six)buck's (whichever "crack in a cup" refers to). They're generally found in malls and shopping centres (not standalone stores) and mainly popular with fancy lads who make their own soap. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but this isn't much different from how it is south of the 49th...

Re:Remembrance Day coin? (4, Funny)

Prairiewest (719875) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021625)

Aren't those the special Tim Hortons (Canadian version of crack in a cup) coins
Oh, that's what kept me coming back for more coffee? I thought it was the opium-laced poppy coins they were giving me....

Paranoia abounds (1)

Bullfish (858648) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021139)

To be fair, when so many are out to get you (or you believe they are), even an unusual pencil looks like a knife.

On other news... (3, Funny)

testednegative (843833) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021155)

"An odd-looking American coin with a bird which can be described as an Eagle raises suspiscion among Canadian Citizens as an artifact for espionage. The odd-looking - but harmless - "eagle coin" is unfamiliar to suspicious Canadian Police Enforcement and forced them to submit private reports about the eagles "devil eyes" which can only mean they contain tracking devices to take over canada." can anyone else say omfg paranoia ?

Re:On other news... (0, Troll)

operagost (62405) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021419)

Well, considering that billions of quarters with that design have been minted from 1932-1998, I don't think it's reasonable to question them. The eagle has been used on various U.S. coins since 1793 and is a well-known symbol of the USA. Washington quarters are not quite as unique as a multi-color quarter minted in only one year. That's a pretty weak analogy, and not even in a funny way.

Re:On other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021529)

Let me guess, you're a douchebag, right?

Re:On other news... (1)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021623)

And the fact that you took it so seriously is the really funny part!

All this tells me... (4, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021157)

All this tells me is that the Americans think it's possible for coins to be used as spying devices. They wouldn't think it if they weren't somehow certain. I'd be carefull with American coins if I were you ;)

Re:All this tells me... (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021431)

Yeah, American coins can do some pretty amazing stuff. For example, did you know that any time they strike a coin of denomination greater than $1, it vaporizes within ten seconds? Strange but true.

Re:All this tells me... (1)

Scarblac (122480) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021811)

That's not a trade deficit, it's a massive spy operation!

:-)

Canada vs. US (4, Insightful)

Kimos (859729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021169)

I can't think of a more appropriate example to illustrate the differences between our two countries.

Re:Canada vs. US (4, Funny)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021329)

that Canadians put red flowers on their coins, and Americans don't?

Re:Canada vs. US (0, Redundant)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021351)

No, that's we're not blatantly paranoid and knee-jerk reactionaries.

Also that we remember our histories lessons, and that a "red poppy looking flower" is probably A POPPY!!!

Tom

Re:Canada vs. US (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021727)

A red flower that shows respect to our soldiers.

Re:Canada vs. US (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021877)

No, that Americans live in constant fear and paranoia.

We remember those who fought for us so we don't have to live in fear.

Re:Canada vs. US (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021383)

I can't think of a more appropriate example to illustrate the differences between our two countries.

They're getting a lot more similar...

No, I'm not talking about closer integration through "free trade" [canadians.org] ...

I'm talking about commemorative "state" quarters and "president" dollar coins.

Be very afraid...

- RG>

No big deal (-1, Troll)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021175)

I would rather they have lots of false positives to avoid true negatives, like they did with the 9/11 "pilots". If we tease them for false positives, they will start to ignore potential real problems.

Re:No big deal (2, Insightful)

radtea (464814) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021259)

I would rather they have lots of false positives to avoid true negatives

Unfortunately, this sort of indiscriminate paranoia ensures that the true negatives will be missed in the midst of a sea of garbage.

The intelligent response to events like 9/11 is to recognize that law enforcement effort should be prioritized as always, focussing resources on the people most likely to do harm, and to accept that a certain level of risk is necessary to preserve some essential liberty.

Re:No big deal (-1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021415)

Unfortunately, this sort of indiscriminate paranoia ensures that the true negatives will be missed in the midst of a sea of garbage.

How does one know what the "garbage" is until it is analyzed? It is easy to complain after the fact. Hindsite is just lovely. Now Al Quida could put nano gizmos in coins knowing nobody would registar a suspicion report because they fear getting laughed at like the last guy who did it.
         

Re:No big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021793)

Now Al Quida could put nano gizmos in coins

ummmmm, yeah. but why?

To track what happens in the average American's sock drawer?

Because we all know that GW keeps spare change in his pocket and by releasing Canadian coins into circulation they may just end up there?

BTW, Which cave do they use for the manufacture of this nano-technology?

This report was absurd on its face. Get a grip.

WOW (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021209)

Nobody made an effort to find out if it was a standard coin.
Wow Army defense contractors and Government 'intelligence' agencies

http://media.thestar.com/AP/0506dv_spy_coins_ISDN. mov [thestar.com]

Typical Defense Security Service (4, Interesting)

CXI (46706) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021251)

The Defense Security Service is the same group that felt it was a good idea to ban access to their websites based on top level domain name. You see, they figured no one with a .edu domain name could be trusted despite universities being a large consumer of their services. I asked them how the heck we were supposed to view their site. They suggested that we "buy a .com" and then it would work fine. After weeks of explaining to them how bonehead an idea that was they changed their policy. *sigh*

idiots (4, Funny)

Fuji Kitakyusho (847520) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021267)

Little do they know that it's the two dollar coin that is the surveillance device. It's obvious if you think about it - the dissimilar metals in the coin form a galvanic cell to power the transmitter. Furthermore - oh, wait a sec, I think I see a CSIS truck in my driveway...

Re:idiots (1)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021659)

Does it say Canadian Broadcasting Corporation on the side of it? Yeah, that's be CSIS, alright!

A Penny For Your Thoughts? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021297)

I'm not one to change the subject, but to coin a story like this really nickel and dimes my faith in the US intelligence agencies. Now that may be my 2 cents, but if even a quarter of this stuff were true I'd change my mind.

Anus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021311)

Mine's open for business.

Hehe.. cool! (1)

Drizzt Do'Urden (226671) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021333)

I know one of the guys who worked on the coin, he'll be please to know that the coin looked to have so advanced technology! ;)

Why was it included in the US security report? (2, Informative)

hocrap (167178) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021339)

This coin is not rare at all.
The mint produced nearly 30 million such quarters in 2004 commemorating Canada's 117,000 war dead.

Another very important subject about this false-espionnage coin:
The Defence Security Service disavowed its warning about spy coins after an international furor, but until now it has never disclosed the details behind the embarrassing episode. The U.S. said it never substantiated the contractors' claims and performed an internal review to determine how the false information was included in a 29-page published report about espionage concerns.
This is amazingly easy to verify... this is another embarrassing episode.

From the original FUD piece (4, Insightful)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021367)

"The report did not indicate what kinds of coins were involved. A service spokeswoman said details of the incidents were classified."

So, basically, a weird looking coin led the government to believe there was an international threat, and the reason this belief remained intact for more than... say... 30 seconds, is that these idiots were too dumb to Google "remember souvenir" (the words on the coin), and yet they're given the ability to classify such nonsense, escalating a problem that could've been resolved by asking any Canadian to empty their pockets, into a threat to national security.

Are they really stupid enough to think that spies are going to make tracking devices in the form of big red X's, and then put those devices on coins that are unlikely to stay in their possession for more than a day?

The most hilarious part are the comments by one of the U.S. contractors, who sounds like he just got his Official Little Orphan Annie secret decoder pin in the mail:

"It did not appear to be electronic (analog) in nature or have a power source," wrote one U.S. contractor, who discovered the coin in the cup holder of a rental car. "Under high power microscope, it appeared to be complex consisting of several layers of clear, but different material, with a wire like mesh suspended on top."

Re:From the original FUD piece (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021523)

It would be even more obvious to visit The Royal Canadian Mint's website [www.mint.ca] and check its information on commemorative and other coins.

Re:From the original FUD piece (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021691)

I agree. It is amazing that they used a high power microscope to analyze the coin but did not even try a simple web search (as you mentioned, the first hits for "remember souvenir" are right on the spot) and did not consider looking at www.mint.ca.

Re:From the original FUD piece (2, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021755)

It's simple to identify the spying coins.

they have a blinking red LED on them and a pop out scanning radar dish.

And in other news... (4, Funny)

caffeine_monkey (576033) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021385)

The Nigerian yellowcake was actually just... yellow cake. Angel food cake, to be exact.

Hardly surprising... (3, Insightful)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021409)

given the current state of affairs in the US. When you live in a totalitarian state, you see enemies behind every bush (insert appropriate joke here). To the commenter who said it only takes being right once to make it all worth while I would say "You're deluded, my friend." One of your great statesmen once said that if you give up your freedom in exchange for security, you will end up with neither; this is being borne out as we speak. Americans are not "safe" from terror - they may be safe from terrorism, but as we can see from the daily news reports, Americans are a terrified people. Those contractors who freaked out about our memorial coins were obviously not feeling "safe", and felt it necessary to file a report about their suspicions. (Incidentally, what they assumed were "nanodevices" were likely the ink dots from the printing process; the Royal Canadian Mint isn't known for its quality when it comes to short-run commemorative coins.) This is just another incident that, along with the Boston Police department's War On Things That Blink, make me glad I have absolutely no reason to travel to the US. For your sakes, I hope you get a new administration with a brain in it next time round!

Re:Hardly surprising... (1)

sensei moreh (868829) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021655)

As an American, it pains me to confess that not only am I not terrified of foreign coins, I actually have a collection of them

Re:Hardly surprising... (2, Funny)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021703)

Good, good. Could you please turn your Canadian one-dollar coin (the one we call a 'loonie') to face your television set? I can't get "American Idol" where I live.

re With a Brain (1)

jelizondo (183861) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021815)

For your sakes, I hope you get a new administration with a brain in it next time round!

Yes, we are tired of Pinky running the show!

Re:Hardly surprising... (1)

TheMysteriousFuture (707972) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021879)

One of your great statesmen once said that if you give up your freedom in exchange for security, you will end up with neither; this is being borne out as we speak.


Ah yes, good ol Ben. To be exact,

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


from Wikiquote [wikiquote.org]

Color (1)

TheOrangeMan (884380) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021421)

OMG! Color on a piece of change!! I wonder if they actually figured out the "blue piece of paper" they kept getting back in their change was actually a five dollar bill.
It looks like money, but it isn't green... I better file a report.

Picture of the quarter in question (1)

Metaphorically (841874) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021447)

The quarter is the fourth one down on this page [members.shaw.ca] .

Ugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021497)

This is such bullshit. How paranoid are you when you think Canada is spying on you with money?

I don't want to live in a country that can't even trust Canada, because if Canada's not friendly, who the hell is?

Re:Ugh (1)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021805)

Well, actually...not everywhere in Canada is friendly. Bev Oda's office, for example; and there are parts of Toronto you'd be better off avoiding. But come on out to the West Coast and have a beer - we'll treat ya right! The real thing to worry about is the fact that our dollar's worth is rising against that of the US dollar. That's what is really suspicious!

focus (2, Insightful)

crAckZ (1098479) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021499)

http://www.gcn.com/print/22_10/21970-1.html [gcn.com] worried about a coin but they cant keep track of the laptops. i think they need to focus on some of the important things before looking with the naked eye for nano-spy gear

American "Intelligence" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021507)

God, just like we need more proof that American Intelligence is the new quintessential oxymoron. Still, it's better to have people laughing at you than trying to kill you. Let's have more money for sending "Intelligence" officials to Canada, and less for death squads in Iraq.

Amateur (1)

youthoftoday (975074) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021509)

Is it me or does that image look like a really amateur 'shop?

Ad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021541)

They were advertised on TV before they were put into circulation to avoid this mess.

Projection (5, Insightful)

Excelcia (906188) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021545)

When you are a country who's law allows the kidnapping of foreign nationals, who's laws allow "rendition", who's laws allow Guantanamo to exist... a country who spies on everyone else, then you see yourself in others too. One tends to expect from others the sort of treatment you meet out. Conversely, the society for which the above is unthinkable tends not to see those threats everywhere else. This story isn't so much funny, as it is deeply... deeply sad.

WTF: "Looked like nanotechnology" (1)

mshmgi (710435) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021547)

Could somebody please explain what nanotechnology looks like? I've never actually been able to see any of it, and I want to make sure I am prepared the next time somebody hands me a small metal disk with some nanotechnology embedded it in.

Re:WTF: "Looked like nanotechnology" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19021707)

Grey goo. Other people call it 'navel lint' or 'pocket fluff'

Do I need Tinfoil Underwear?? (1)

1_brown_mouse (160511) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021585)

That should keep the coins in my pocket from reading my mind.

I am certain they chose coins to get a closer proximity to the mind of the American Politician.

Why is The State of Canada Not Using US Coins? (1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021591)

Didn't we invade them already?

j/k

Seriously, this is really funny. I mean the DoD doesn't know what coins are being used by our northern neighbor and are worried about spying from them? Go figure! Oh, I guess 'cause it is a poppy they're thinking some evil drug thing.

Re:Why is The State of Canada Not Using US Coins? (5, Informative)

who's got my nicknam (841366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021875)

Actually, you did invade us once (back in 1812), but we fought you off, sank most of your ships, and then marched down to Washington and burned down the White House. You wanna piece of this - come git some! *grin*

In Flanders Field (3, Informative)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021597)

IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Homeland Security makes me feel secure (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021609)

After they've spent months determining coloured Canadian coins wouldn't kill us.
What will they do next to wow us? Stop terrorists from using airplanes? Rescue hurricane victims?

pretty amazing (1)

skorf (832428) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021669)

I couldn't help but laugh while I was reading this. This just helps strengthen the "ignorant American" stereotype that just about every country has for us. Thanks again dumbasses!

There are bugs everywhere! (1)

Techno-Hat (841694) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021697)

This isn't as far fetched as you might think. Anybody can buy hidden recording devices disguised as working pens, clocks, smoke alarms or whatever. They are not as high tech as they once were. The stuff Intelligence agencies have access to are even more high tech. When you have buildings full of highly intelligent people thinking up ways to spy on each other non-stop, you end up with some pretty innovative things. This for example http://www.spybusters.com/Great_Seal_Bug.html [spybusters.com]

Royal Canadian Mint is very High Tech... (4, Interesting)

gwn (594936) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021763)

I can understand the concern, especially considering the quality and technical savvy of the Royal Canadian Mint. Here is part of the Wiki entry:

"The Mint has been at the forefront of currency innovation. Among the Mint's technical innovations have included its plating process, which consists of a multi-ply technology that allows electromagnetic signatures to be embedded in the coins, assuring readability in the coin-processing industries.[3] Its other innovation was the world's first coloured circulation coin, the 2004 Remembrance Day 25 cent piece, with a red poppy on the reverse. Further innovation was achieved with the adaptation of the Physical Vapour Deposition (PVD) technology to coat its dies, extending the life of the die beyond that of past chrome coated dies.[4]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Mint [wikipedia.org]

Now, consider that the mint also makes coins for many other countries, US military contractors and security conscious travelers can be even more paranoid.

By the way, Canadian money is made by and controlled by the Canadian government... Do you know who makes and controls US currency? If you guessed the US government, you should check again.

Could there be real spy coins?? (1)

fremar (527009) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021783)

Perhaps those defense security experts suspected these coins because US security agencies actually have spy coins? Just a thought...

LOL AMERIAKNS! (2, Funny)

FFFish (7567) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021819)

...now I need a picture of a kitten and a coin...

Yeah, Riiiight (1)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 7 years ago | (#19021831)

Who would believe something that kooky? Next thing you now someone will claim a box knife is an "evil tool" to hijack a plane.
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