Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Spy Chief Hints At Limits On Satellite Photos

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the don't-look-there dept.

Censorship 309

An anonymous reader writes "Vice Adm. Robert Murrett, director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, says that the increasing availability of commercial satellite photos may require the government to restrict distribution. 'I could certainly foresee circumstances in which we would not want imagery to be openly disseminated of a sensitive site of any type, whether it is here or overseas,' he said. This would include imagery on Web sites such as Google Earth, because the companies that supply the photos get help from the NGIA with launches." I had never heard of this particular intelligence agency. During the early months of the invasion of Afghanistan they bought up all satellite imagery over that country, worldwide, in a tactic later dubbed "checkbook shutter control."

cancel ×


Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

I claim this first post for pi! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047143)

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 105820974944592307816406286 20899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384 4609550582231725359408128481 11745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442 8810975665933446128475648233 78678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821 3393607260249141273724587006 60631558817488152092096282925409171536436789259036 0011330530548820466521384146 95194151160943305727036575959195309218611738193261 1793105118548074462379962749 56735188575272489122793818301194912983367336244065 6643086021394946395224737190 70217986094370277053921717629317675238467481846766 9405132000568127145263560827 78577134275778960917363717872146844090122495343014 6549585371050792279689258923 54201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996 0518707211349999998372978049 95105973173281609631859502445945534690830264252230 8253344685035261931188171010 00313783875288658753320838142061717766914730359825 3490428755468731159562863882 35378759375195778185778053217122680661300192787661 1195909216420198938095257201 06548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296 8995773622599413891249721775 28347913151557485724245415069595082953311686172785 5889075098381754637464939319 25506040092770167113900984882401285836160356370766 0104710181942955596198946767 83744944825537977472684710404753464620804668425906 9491293313677028989152104752 16205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749 6473263914199272604269922796 78235478163600934172164121992458631503028618297455 5706749838505494588586926995 69092721079750930295532116534498720275596023648066 5499119881834797753566369807 42654252786255181841757467289097777279380008164706 0016145249192173217214772350 14144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852 3323907394143334547762416862 51898356948556209921922218427255025425688767179049 4601653466804988627232791786 08578438382796797668145410095388378636095068006422 5125205117392984896084128488 62694560424196528502221066118630674427862203919494 5047123713786960956364371917 28746776465757396241389086583264599581339047802759 0099465764078951269468398352 59570982582262052248940772671947826848260147699090 2640136394437455305068203496 25245174939965143142980919065925093722169646151570 9858387410597885959772975498 93016175392846813826868386894277415599185592524595 3959431049972524680845987273 64469584865383673622262609912460805124388439045124 4136549762780797715691435997 70012961608944169486855584840635342207222582848864 8158456028506016842739452267 46767889525213852254995466672782398645659611635488 6230577456498035593634568174 32411251507606947945109659609402522887971089314566 9136867228748940560101503308 61792868092087476091782493858900971490967598526136 5549781893129784821682998948 72265880485756401427047755513237964145152374623436 4542858444795265867821051141 35473573952311342716610213596953623144295248493718 7110145765403590279934403742 00731057853906219838744780847848968332144571386875 1943506430218453191048481005 37061468067491927819119793995206141966342875444064 3745123718192179998391015919 56181467514269123974894090718649423196156794520809 5146550225231603881930142093 76213785595663893778708303906979207734672218256259 9661501421503068038447734549 20260541466592520149744285073251866600213243408819 0710486331734649651453905796 26856100550810665879699816357473638405257145910289 7064140110971206280439039759 51567715770042033786993600723055876317635942187312 5147120532928191826186125867 32157919841484882916447060957527069572209175671167 2291098169091528017350671274 85832228718352093539657251210835791513698820914442 1006751033467110314126711136 99086585163983150197016515116851714376576183515565 0884909989859982387345528331 63550764791853589322618548963213293308985706420467 5259070915481416549859461637 18027098199430992448895757128289059232332609729971 2084433573265489382391193259 74636673058360414281388303203824903758985243744170 2913276561809377344403070746 92112019130203303801976211011004492932151608424448 5963766983895228684783123552 65821314495768572624334418930396864262434107732269 7802807318915441101044682325 27162010526522721116603966655730925471105578537634 6682065310989652691862056476 93125705863566201855810072936065987648611791045334 8850346113657686753249441668 03962657978771855608455296541266540853061434443185 8676975145661406800700237877 65913440171274947042056223053899456131407112700040 7854733269939081454664645880 79727082668306343285878569830523580893306575740679 5457163775254202114955761581 40025012622859413021647155097925923099079654737612 5517656751357517829666454779 17450112996148903046399471329621073404375189573596 1458901938971311179042978285 64750320319869151402870808599048010941214722131794 7647772622414254854540332157 18530614228813758504306332175182979866223717215916 0771669254748738986654949450 11465406284336639379003976926567214638530673609657 1209180763832716641627488880 07869256029022847210403172118608204190004229661711 9637792133757511495950156604 96318629472654736425230817703675159067350235072835 4056704038674351362222477158 91504953098444893330963408780769325993978054193414 4737744184263129860809988868 74132604721569516239658645730216315981931951673538 1297416772947867242292465436 68009806769282382806899640048243540370141631496589 7940924323789690706977942236 25082216889573837986230015937764716512289357860158 8161755782973523344604281512 62720373431465319777741603199066554187639792933441 9521541341899485444734567383 16249934191318148092777710386387734317720754565453 2207770921201905166096280490 92636019759882816133231666365286193266863360627356 7630354477628035045077723554 71058595487027908143562401451718062464362679456127 5318134078330336254232783944 97538243720583531147711992606381334677687969597030 9833913077109870408591337464 14428227726346594704745878477872019277152807317679 0770715721344473060570073349 24369311383504931631284042512192565179806941135280 1314701304781643788518529092 85452011658393419656213491434159562586586557055269 0496520985803385072242648293 97285847831630577775606888764462482468579260395352 7734803048029005876075825104 74709164396136267604492562742042083208566119062545 4337213153595845068772460290 16187667952406163425225771954291629919306455377991 4037340432875262888963995879 47572917464263574552540790914513571113694109119393 2519107602082520261879853188 77058429725916778131496990090192116971737278476847 2686084900337702424291651300 50051683233643503895170298939223345172201381280696 5011784408745196012122859937 16231301711444846409038906449544400619869075485160 2632750529834918740786680881 83385102283345085048608250393021332197155184306354 5500766828294930413776552793 97517546139539846833936383047461199665385815384205 6853386218672523340283087112 32827892125077126294632295639898989358211674562701 0218356462201349671518819097 30381198004973407239610368540664319395097901906996 3955245300545058068550195673 02292191393391856803449039820595510022635353619204 1994745538593810234395544959 77837790237421617271117236434354394782218185286240 8514006660443325888569867054 31547069657474585503323233421073015459405165537906 8662733379958511562578432298 82737231989875714159578111963583300594087306812160 2876496286744604774649159950 54973742562690104903778198683593814657412680492564 8798556145372347867330390468 83834363465537949864192705638729317487233208376011 2302991136793862708943879936 20162951541337142489283072201269014754668476535761 6477379467520049075715552781 96536213239264061601363581559074220202031872776052 7721900556148425551879253034 35139844253223415762336106425063904975008656271095 3591946589751413103482276930 62474353632569160781547818115284366795706110861533 1504452127473924544945423682 88606134084148637767009612071512491404302725386076 4823634143346235189757664521 64137679690314950191085759844239198629164219399490 7236234646844117394032659184 04437805133389452574239950829659122850855582157250 3107125701266830240292952522 01187267675622041542051618416348475651699981161410 1002996078386909291603028840 02691041407928862150784245167090870006992821206604 1837180653556725253256753286 12910424877618258297651579598470356222629348600341 5872298053498965022629174878 82027342092222453398562647669149055628425039127577 1028402799806636582548892648 80254566101729670266407655904290994568150652653053 7182941270336931378517860904 07086671149655834343476933857817113864558736781230 1458768712660348913909562009 93936103102916161528813843790990423174733639480457 5931493140529763475748119356 70911013775172100803155902485309066920376719220332 2909433467685142214477379393 75170344366199104033751117354719185504644902636551 2816228824462575916333039107 22538374218214088350865739177150968288747826569959 9574490661758344137522397096 83408005355984917541738188399944697486762655165827 6584835884531427756879002909 51702835297163445621296404352311760066510124120065 9755851276178583829204197484 42360800719304576189323492292796501987518721272675 0798125547095890455635792122 10333466974992356302549478024901141952123828153091 1407907386025152274299581807 24716259166854513331239480494707911915326734302824 4186041426363954800044800267 04962482017928964766975831832713142517029692348896 2766844032326092752496035799 64692565049368183609003238092934595889706953653494 0603402166544375589004563288 22505452556405644824651518754711962184439658253375 4388569094113031509526179378 00297412076651479394259029896959469955657612186561 9673378623625612521632086286 92221032748892186543648022967807057656151446320469 2790682120738837781423356282 36089632080682224680122482611771858963814091839036 7367222088832151375560037279 83940041529700287830766709444745601345564172543709 0697939612257142989467154357 84687886144458123145935719849225284716050492212424 7014121478057345510500801908 69960330276347870810817545011930714122339086639383 3952942578690507643100638351 98343893415961318543475464955697810382930971646514 3840700707360411237359984345 22516105070270562352660127648483084076118301305279 3205427462865403603674532865 10570658748822569815793678976697422057505968344086 9735020141020672358502007245 22563265134105592401902742162484391403599895353945 9094407046912091409387001264 56001623742880210927645793106579229552498872758461 0126483699989225695968815920 56001016552563756785667227966198857827948488558343 9751874454551296563443480396 64205579829368043522027709842942325330225763418070 3947699415979159453006975214 82933665556615678736400536665641654732170439035213 2954352916941459904160875320 18683793702348886894791510716378529023452924407736 5949563051007421087142613497 45956151384987137570471017879573104229690666702144 9863746459528082436944578977 23300487647652413390759204340196340391147320233807 1509522201068256342747164602 43354400515212669324934196739770415956837535551667 3027390074972973635496453328 88698440611964961627734495182736955882207573551766 5158985519098666539354948106 88732068599075407923424023009259007017319603622547 5647894064754834664776041146 32339056513433068449539790709030234604614709616968 8688501408347040546074295869 91382966824681857103188790652870366508324319744047 7185567893482308943106828702 72280973624809399627060747264553992539944280811373 6943388729406307926159599546 26246297070625948455690347119729964090894180595343 9325123623550813494900436427 85271383159125689892951964272875739469142725343669 4153236100453730488198551706 59412173524625895487301676002988659257866285612496 6552353382942878542534048308 33070165372285635591525347844598183134112900199920 5981352205117336585640782648 49427644113763938669248031183644536985891754426473 9988228462184490087776977631 27957226726555625962825427653183001340709223343657 7916012809317940171859859993 38492354956400570995585611349802524990669842330173 5035804408116855265311709957 08994273287092584878944364600504108922669178352587 0785951298344172953519537885 53457374260859029081765155780390594640873506123226 1120093731080485485263572282 57682034160504846627750450031262008007998049254853 4694146977516493270950493463 93824322271885159740547021482897111777923761225788 7347718819682546298126868581 70507402725502633290449762778944236216741191862694 3965067151577958675648239939 17604260176338704549901761436412046921823707648878 3419689686118155815873606293 86038101712158552726683008238340465647588040513808 0163363887421637140643549556 18689641122821407533026551004241048967835285882902 4367090488711819090949453314 42182876618103100735477054981596807720094746961343 6092861484941785017180779306 81085469000944589952794243981392135055864221964834 9151263901280383200109773868 06628779239718014613432445726400973742570073592100 3154150893679300816998053652 02760072774967458400283624053460372634165542590276 0183484030681138185510597970 56640075094260878857357960373245141467867036880988 0609716425849759513806930944 94015154222219432913021739125383559150310033303251 1174915696917450271494331515 58854039221640972291011290355218157628232831823425 4832611191280092825256190205 26301639114772473314857391077758744253876117465786 7116941477642144111126358355 38713610110232679877564102468240322648346417663698 0663785768134920453022408197 27856471983963087815432211669122464159117767322532 6433568614618654522268126887 26844596844241610785401676814208088502800541436131 4623082102594173756238994207 57136275167457318918945628352570441335437585753426 9869947254703165661399199968 26282472706413362221789239031760854289437339356188 9165125042440400895271983787 38648058472689546243882343751788520143956005710481 1949884239060613695734231559 07967034614914344788636041031823507365027785908975 7827273130504889398900992391 35033732508559826558670892426124294736701939077271 3070686917092646254842324074 85503660801360466895118400936686095463250021458529 3095000090715105823626729326 45373821049387249966993394246855164832611341461106 8026744663733437534076429402 66829738652209357016263846485285149036293201991996 8828517183953669134522244470 80459239660281715655156566611135982311225062890585 4914509715755390024393153519 09021071194573002438801766150352708626025378817975 1947806101371500448991721002 22013350131060163915415895780371177927752259787428 9191791552241718958536168059 47412341933984202187456492564434623925319531351033 1147639491199507285843065836 19353693296992898379149419394060857248639688369032 6556436421664425760791471086 99843157337496488352927693282207629472823815374099 6154559879825989109371712621 82830258481123890119682214294576675807186538065064 8702613389282299497257453033 28389638184394477077940228435988341003583854238973 5424395647555684095224844554 13923941000162076936368467764130178196593799715574 6854194633489374843912974239 14336593604100352343777065888677811394986164787471 4079326385873862473288964564 35987746676384794665040741118256583788784548581489 6296127399841344272608606187 24554523606431537101127468097787044640947582803487 6975894832824123929296058294 86191966709189580898332012103184303401284951162035 3428014412761728583024355983 00320420245120728725355811958401491809692533950757 7840006746552603144616705082 76827722235341911026341631571474061238504258459884 1990761128725805911393568960 14316682831763235673254170734208173322304629879928 0490851409479036887868789493 05469557030726190095020764334933591060245450864536 2893545686295853131533718386 82656178622736371697577418302398600659148161640494 4965011732131389574706208847 48023653710311508984279927544268532779743113951435 7417221975979935968525228574 52637962896126915723579866205734083757668738842664 0599099350500081337543245463 59675048442352848747014435454195762584735642161981 3407346854111766883118654489 37769795665172796623267148103386439137518659467300 2443450054499539974237232871 24948347060440634716063258306498297955101095418362 3503030945309733583446283947 63047756450150085075789495489313939448992161255255 9770143685894358587752637962 55970816776438001254365023714127834679261019955852 2471722017772370041780841942 39487254068015560359983905489857235467456423905858 5021671903139526294455439131 66313453089390620467843877850542393905247313620129 4769187497519101147231528932 67725339181466073000890277689631148109022097245207 5916729700785058071718638105 49679731001678708506942070922329080703832634534520 3802786099055690013413718236 83709919495164896007550493412678764367463849020639 6401976668559233565463913836 31857456981471962108410809618846054560390384553437 2914144651347494078488442377 21751543342603066988317683310011331086904219390310 8014378433415137092435301367 76310849135161564226984750743032971674696406665315 2703532546711266752246055119 95818319637637076179919192035795820075956053023462 6775794393630746305690108011 49427141009391369138107258137813578940055995001835 4251184172136055727522103526 80373572652792241737360575112788721819084490061780 1388971077082293100279766593 58387589093956881485602632243937265624727760378908 1445883785501970284377936240 78250527048758164703245812908783952324532378960298 4166922548964971560698119218 65849267704039564812781021799132174163058105545988 0130048456299765112124153637 45150056350701278159267142413421033015661653560247 3380784302865525722275304999 88370153487930080626018096238151613669033411113865 3851091936739383522934588832 25508870645075394739520439680790670868064450969865 4880168287434378612645381583 42807530618454859037982179945996811544197425363443 9960290251001588827216474500 68207041937615845471231834600726293395505482395571 3725684023226821301247679452 26448209102356477527230820810635188991526928891084 5557112660396503439789627825 00161101532351605196559042118449499077899920073294 7690586857787872098290135295 66139788848605097860859570177312981553149516814671 7695976099421003618355913877 78176984587581044662839988060061622984861693533738 6578773598336161338413385368 42119789389001852956919678045544828584837011709672 1253533875862158231013310387 76682721157269495181795897546939926421979155233857 6623167627547570354699414892 90413018638611943919628388705436777432242768091323 6544948536676800000106526248 54730558615989991401707698385483188750142938908995 0685453076511680333732226517 56622075269517914422528081651716677667279303548515 4204023817460892328391703275 42575086765511785939500279338959205766827896776445 3184040418554010435134838953 12013263783692835808271937831265496174599705674507 1833206503455664403449045362 75600112501843356073612227659492783937064784264567 6338818807565612168960504161 13903906396016202215368494109260538768871483798955 9999112099164646441191856827 70045742434340216722764455893301277815868695250694 9936461017568506016714535431 58148010545886056455013320375864548584032402987170 9348091055621167154684847780 39447569798042631809917564228098739987669732376957 3701580806822904599212366168 90259627304306793165311494017647376938735140933618 3321614280214976339918983548 48756252987524238730775595559554651963944018218409 9841248982623673771467226061 63364329640633572810707887581640438148501884114318 8598827694490119321296827158 88413386943468285900666408063140777577257056307294 0049294030242049841656547973 67054855804458657202276378404668233798528271057843 1975354179501134727362577408 02134768260450228515797957976474670228409995616015 6910890384582450267926594205 55039587922981852648007068376504183656209455543461 3513415257006597488191634135 95567196496540321872716026485930490397874895890661 2725079482827693895352175362 18507962977851461884327192232238101587444505286652 3802253284389137527384589238 44225354726530981715784478342158223270206902872323 3005386216347988509469547200 47952311201504329322662827276321779088400878614802 2147537657810581970222630971 74950721272484794781695729614236585957820908307332 3356034846531873029302665964 50137183754288975579714499246540386817992138934692 4474198509733462679332107268 68707680626399193619650440995421676278409146698569 2571507431574079380532392523 94775574415918458215625181921552337096074833292349 2103451462643744980559610330 79941453477845746999921285999993996122816152193148 8876938802228108300198601654 94165426169685867883726095877456761825072759929508 9318052187292461086763995891 61458550583972742098090978172932393010676638682404 0111304024700735085782872462 71349463685318154696904669686939254725194139929146 5242385776255004748529547681 47954670070503479995888676950161249722820403039954 6327883069597624936151010243 65553522306906129493885990157346610237122354789112 9254769617600504797492806072 12680392269110277722610254414922157650450812067717 3571202718024296810620377657 88371669091094180744878140490755178203856539099104 7759414132154328440625030180 27571696508209642734841469572639788425600845312140 6593580904127113592004197598 51362547961606322887361813673732445060792441176399 7597461938358457491598809766 74470930065463424234606342374746660804317012600520 5592849369594143408146852981 50539471789004518357551541252235905906872648786357 5254191128887737176637486027 66063496035367947026923229718683277173932361920077 7452212624751869833495151019 86426988784717193966497690708252174233656627259284 4062043021411371992278526998 46988477023238238400556555178890876613601304770984 3861168705231055314916251728 37327286760072481729876375698163354150746088386636 4069347043720668865127568826 61497307886570156850169186474885416791545965072342 8773069985371390430026653078 39877638503238182155355973235306860430106757608389 0862704984188859513809103042 35957824951439885901131858358406674723702971497850 8414585308578133915627076035 63907639473114554958322669457024941398316343323789 7595568085683629725386791327 50555425244919435891284050452269538121791319145135 0099384631177401797151228378 54601160359554028644059024964669307077690554810288 5020808580087811577381719174 17760173307385547580060560143377432990127286772530 4318251975791679296996504146 07066457125888346979796429316229655201687973000356 4630457930884032748077181155 53309098870255052076804630346086581653948769519600 4408482065967379473168086415 64565053004988161649057883115434548505266006982309 3157776500378070466126470602 14575057932709620478256152471459189652236083966456 2410519551052235723973951288 18164059785914279148165426328920042816091369377737 2229998332708208296995573772 73756676155271139225880552018988762011416800546873 6558063347160373429170390798 63965229613128017826797172898229360702880690877686 6059325274637840539769184808 20410219447197138692560841624511239806201131845412 4478205011079876071715568315 40788654390412108730324020106853419472304766667217 4986986854707678120512473679 24791931508564447753798537997322344561227858432968 4664751333657369238720146472 36794278700425032555899268843495928761240075587569 4641370562514001179713316620 71537154360068764773186755871487839890810742953094 1060596944315847753970094398 83949144323536685392099468796450665339857388878661 4762944341401049888993160051 20767810358861166020296119363968213496075011164983 2785635316145168457695687109 00299976984126326650234771672865737857908574664607 7228341540311441529418804782 54387617707904300015669867767957609099669360755949 6515273634981189641304331166 27747123388174060373174397054067031096767657486953 5878967003192586625941051053 35843846560233917967492678447637084749783336555790 0738419147319886271352595462 51816043422537299628632674968240580602964211463864 3686422472488728343417044157 34824818333016405669596688667695634914163284264149 7453334999948000266998758881 59350735781519588990053951208535103572613736403436 7534714104836017546488300407 84641674521673719048310967671134434948192626811107 3994825060739495073503169019 73185211955263563258433909982249862406703107683184 4660729124874754031617969941 13973877658998685541703188477886759290260700432126 6617919223520938227878880988 63359911608192353555704646349113208591897961327913 1975649097600013996234445535 01434642686046449586247690943470482932941404111465 4092398834443515913320107739 44111840741076849810663472410482393582740194493566 5161088463125678529776973468 43030614624180358529331597345830384554103370109167 6776374276210213701354854450 92630719011473184857492331816720721372793556795284 4392548156091372812840633303 93735624200160456645574145881660521666087387480472 4339121295587776390696903707 88285277538940524607584962315743691711317613478388 2719416860662572103685132156 64780014767523103935786068961112599602818393095487 0905907386135191459181951029 73278755710497290114871718971800469616977700179139 1961379141716270701895846921 43436967629274591099400600849835684252019155937037 0101104974733949387788598941 74330317853487076032219829705797511914405109942358 8303454635349234982688362404 33272674155403016195056806541809394099820206099941 4021689090070821330723089662 11977553066591881411915778362729274615618571037217 2471009521423696483086410259 28874579993223749551912219519034244523075351338068 5680735446499512720317448719 54039761073080602699062580760202927314552520780799 1418429063884437349968145827 33720726639176702011830046481900024130835088465841 5214899127610651374153943565 72113903285749187690944137020905170314877734616528 7984823533829726013611098451 48418238081205409961252745808810994869722161285248 9742555551607637167505489617 30168096138038119143611439921063800508321409876045 9930932485102516829446726066 61381517457125597549535802399831469822036133808284 9935670557552471290274539776 21404931820146580080215665360677655087838043041343 1059180460680083459113664083 48874080057412725867047922583191274157390809143831 3845642415094084913391809684 02511639919368532255573389669537490266209232613188 5589158083245557194845387562 87861288590041060060737465014026278240273469625282 1717494158233174923968353013 61786536737606421667781377399510065895288774276626 3684183068019080460984980946 97636673356622829151323527888061577682781595886691 8023894033307644191240341202 23163685778603572769415417788264352381319050280870 1857504704631293335375728538 66058889045831114507739429352019943219711716422350 0564404297989208159430716701 98574692738486538334361457946341759225738985880016 9801475742054299580124295810 54565108310462972829375841611625325625165724980784 9209989799062003593650993472 15829651741357984910471116607915874369865412223483 4188772292944633517865385673 19625598520260729476740726167671455736498121056777 1689348491766077170527718760 11999081441130586455779105256843048114402619384023 2247093924980293355073184589 03553971330884461741079591625117148648744686112476 0542867343670904667846867027 40918810142497111496578177242793470702166882956108 7779440504843752844337510882 82647719785400065097040330218625561473321177711744 1335028160884035178145254196 43203095760186946490886815452856213469883554445602 4955666843660292219512483091 06053772019802183101032704178386654471812603971906 8846237085751808003532704718 56594994761242481109992886791589690495639476246084 2406593094862150769031498702 06735338483495508363660178487710608098042692471324 1000946401437360326564518456 67924566695510015022983307984960799498824970617236 7449361226222961790814311414 66094123415935930958540791390872083227335495720807 5716517187659944985693795623 87555161757543809178052802946420044721539628074636 0211329425591600257073562812 63873310600589106524570802447493754318414940148211 9996276453106800663118382376 16396631809314446712986155275982014514102756006892 9750246304017351489194576360 78935285550531733141645705049964438909363084387448 4783961684051845273288403234 52024705685164657164771393237755172947951261323982 2960239454857975458651745878 77133181387529598094121742273003522965080891777050 6825924882232215493804837145 47816472139768209633205083056479204820859204754998 5732038887639160199524091893 89455767687497308569559580106595265030362661597506 6222508406742889826590751063 75635699682115109496697445805472886936310203678232 5018232370845979011154847208 76182124778132663304120762165873129708112307581598 2124863980721240786887811450 16558251361789030708608701989758898074566439551574 1536319319198107057533663373 80382721527988493503974800158905194208797113080512 3393322190346624991716915094 85414018710603546037946433790058909577211808044657 4396280618671786101715674096 76620802957665770512912099079443046328929473061595 1043090222143937184956063405 61893425130572682914657832933405246350289291754708 7256484260034962961165413823 00773133272983050016025672401418515204189070115428 8579920812198449315699905918 20118197335001261877280368124819958770702075324063 6125931343859554254778196114 29351635612234966615226147353996740515849986035529 5332924575238881013620234762 46690558164389678630976273655047243486430712184943 7348530060638764456627218666 17012381277156213797461498613287441177145524447089 9714452288566294244023018479 12054784985745216346964489738920624019435183100882 8348024924908540307786387516 59113028739587870981007727182718745290139728366148 4214287170553179654307650453 43246005363614726181809699769334862640774351999286 8632383508875668359509726557 48154319401955768504372480010204137498318722596773 8715495839971844490727914196 58459300839426370208756353982169620553248032122674 9891140267852859967340524203 10917978999057188219493913207534317079800237365909 8537552023891164346718558290 68537118979526262344924833924963424497146568465912 4891855662958932990903523923 33336474352037077010108438800329075983421701855422 8386161721041760301164591878 05393674474720599850235828918336929223373239994804 3710841965947316265482574809 94825099918330069765693671596893644933488647442135 0084070066088359723503953234 01795825570360169369909886711321097988970705172807 5585519126993067309925070407 02455685077867906947661262980822516331363995211709 8452809263037592242674257559 98928927837047444521893632034894155210445972618838 0030067761793138139916205806 27016510244588692476492468919246121253102757313908 4047000714356136231699237169 48481325542009145304103713545329662063921054798243 9212517254013231490274058589 20632175894943454890684639931375709103463327141531 6223280552297297953801880162 85907357295541627886764982741861642187898857410716 4906919185116281528548679417 36389066538857642291583425006736124538491606741373 4017357277995634104332688356 95078149313780073623541800706191802673285511919426 7609122103598746924117283749 31261633950012395992405084543756985079570462226646 1900010350049018303415354584 28337643781119885563187777925372011667185395418359 8443830520376281944076159410 68207169703022851522505731260930468984234331527321 3136121658280807521263154773 06044237747535059522871744026663891488171730864361 1138906942027908814311944879 94171540421034121908470940802540239329429454938786 4023051292711909751353600092 19711054120966831115163287054230284700731206580326 2641711616595761327235156666 25366727189985341998952368848309993027574199164638 4142707798870887422927705389 12271724863220288984251252872178260305009945108247 8357290569198855546788607946 28053712270424665431921452817607414824038278358297 1930101788834567416781139895 47504483393146896307633966572267270433932167454218 2455706252479721997866854279 89779923395790575818906225254735822052364248507834 0711014498047872669199018643 88229323053823185597328697809222535295910173414073 3488476100556401824239219269 50620831838145469839236646136398910121021770959767 0490830508185470419466437131 22996923588953849301363565761861060622287055994233 7163102127845744646398973818 85667462608794820186474876727272220626764653380998 0196688368099415907577685263 98651462533363124505364026105696055131838131742611 8442018908885319635698696279 50367384243130113317533053298020166888174813429886 8158557781034323175306478498 32106297184251843855344276201282345707169885305183 2617964117857960888815032960 22907056144762209150947390359466469162353968092013 9457817589108893199211226007 39281491694816152738427362642980982340632002440244 9589445612916704950823581248 73917996486411334803247577752197089327722623494860 1504665268143987705161531702 66969297049283162855042128981467061953319702695072 1437823047687528028735412616 63917082459251700107141808548006369232594620190022 7808740985977192180515853214 73926532515590354102092846659252999143537918253145 4529059841581763705892790690 98969111643811878094353715213322614436253144901274 5477269573939348154691631162 49288735747188240715039950094467319543161938554852 0766573882513963916357672315 10055560372633948672082078086537349424401157996675 0736071115935133195919712094 89647175530245313647709420946356969822266737752099 4516845064362382421185353488 79893956731878066061078854400055082765703055874485 4180577889171920788142335113 86629296671796434687600770479995378833878703487180 2184243734211227394025571769 08196030920182401884270570460926225641783752652633 5832424066125331152942345796 55695025068100183109004112453790153329661569705223 7921032570693705109083078947 99990049993953221536227484766036136776979785673865 8467093667958858378879562594 64648913766521995882869338018360119323685785585581 9555604215625088365020332202 45137621582046181067051953306530606065010548871672 4537794283133887163139559690 58320834168984760656071183471362181232462272588419 9028614208728495687963932546 42853430753011052857138296437099903569488852851904 0295604734613113826387889755 17885604249987483163828040468486189381895905420398 8987265069762020199554841265 00053944282039301274816381585303964399254702016727 5932857436666164411096256633 73054092195196751483287348089574777752783442210910 7311135182804603634719818565 55729571447476825528578633493428584231187494400032 2969069775831590385803935352 13588600796003420975473922967333106493956018122378 1285458431760556173386112673 47807458506760630482294096530411183066710818930311 0887172816751957967534718853 72293096161432040063813224658411111577583585811350 1856904781536893813771847281 47519983505047812977185990847076219746058874232569 9582889253504193795826061621 18423687685114183160683158679946016520577405294230 5360178031335726326705479033 84012573059123396018801378254219270947673371919872 8738524805742124892118347087 66296672072723256505651293331260595057777275424712 4164831283298207236175057467 38701282095755443059683955556868611883971355220844 5285264008125202766555767749 59696266126045652456840861392382657685833846984997 7872670655519185446869846947 84957346226062942196245570853712727765230989554501 9303773216664918257815467729 20052126671434632096378918523232150189761260343736 8406719419303774688099929687 75824410478781232662531818459604538535438391144967 7531286426092521153767325886 67226040425234910870269580996475958057946639734190 6401003636190404203311357933 65424263035614570090112448008900208014780566037101 5412232889146572239314507607 16706435568274377439657890679726874384730763464516 7756210309860409271709095128 08630902973850445271828927496892121066700816485833 9553773591913695015316201890 88874842107987068991148046692706509407620465027725 2865072890532854856143316081 26930056937854178610969692025388650345771831766868 8592368148847527649846882194 97397297077371871884004143231276365048145311228509 9002074240925585925292610302 10673681543470152523487863516439762358604191941296 9769040526483234700991115424 26012734380220893310966863678986949779940012601642 2760926082349304118064382913 83473546797253992623387915829984864592717340592256 2074910530853153718291168163 72193951887009577881815868504645076993439409874335 1443162633031724774748689791 82092394808331439708406730840795893581089665647758 5990556376952523265361442478 02308268118310377358870892406130313364773710116282 1461466167940409051861526036 00925219472188909181073358719641421444786548995285 8234394705007983038853886083 10357193060027711945580219119428999227223534587075 6624692617766317885514435021 82870266856106650035310502163182060176092179846849 3686316129372795187307897263 73537171502563787335797718081848784588665043358243 7700414771041493492743845758 71071597315594394264125702709651251081155482479394 0359768118811728247215825010 94960966253933953809221955919181885526780621499231 7276316321833989693807561685 59117529984501320671293924041445938623988093812404 5219148483164621014738918251 01090967738690664041589736104764365000680771056567 1848628149637111883219244566 39458144914861655004956769826903089111856879869294 7051352481609174324301538368 47072928989828460222373014526556798986277679680914 6979837826876431159883210904 37156112997665215396354644208691975673700057387649 7843768628768179249746943842 74652563163230055513041742273416464551278127845777 7245752038654375428282567141 28858345444351325620544642410110379554641905811686 2305964476958705407214198521 21067343324107567675758184569906930460475227701670 0568454396923404171108988899 34163505851578873534308155208117720718803791040469 8306957868547393765643363197 97868036718730796939242363214484503547763156702553 9006542311792015346497792906 62415083288583952905426376876689688050333172278001 8588506973623240389470047189 76193473443084374437599250341788079722358591342458 1314404984770173236169471976 57153531977549971627856631190469126091825912498903 6765417697990362375528652637 57337635269693443544004730671988689019681474287677 9086697968852250163694985673 02175231325292653758964151714795595387842784998664 5630287883196209983049451987 43963690706827626574858104391122326187940599415540 6327013198989570376110532360 62986748037791537675115830432084987209202809297526 4981256916342500052290887264 69252846661046653921714820801305022980526378364269 5973370705392278915351056888 39381132497570713310295044303467159894487868471164 3832805069250776627450012200 35262037094660234146489983902525888301486781621967 7519458316771876275720050543 97944124599007711520515461993050983869825428464072 5554092740313257163264079293 41833421470904125425335232480219322770753555467958 7163835875018159338717423606 15511710131235256334858203651461418700492057043720 1826173319471570086757853933 60786227395581857975872587441025420771054753612940 4746010009409544495966288148 69159038990718659805636171376922272907641977551777 2010427649694961105622059250 24202177042696221549587264539892276976603105249808 5575947163107587013320886146 32664125911486338812202844406941694882615295776253 2501987035987067438046982194 20563812558334364219492322759372212890564209430823 5254408411086454536940496927 14940033197828613181861888111184082578659287574263 8445005994422956858646048103 30153889114994869354360302218109434667640000223625 5057363129462629609619876056 42599639461386923308371962659547392346241345977957 4852464783798079569319865081 59776753505539189911513352522987361127791827485420 0868953965835942196333150286 95611920122988898870060799927954111882690230789131 0760361763477948943203210277 33594169086500719328040171638406449878717537567811 8532132840821657110754952829 49749362146082155832056872321855740651610962748743 7509809223021160998263303391 54694946444910045152809250897450748967603240907689 8365294065792019831526541065 81368237919840906457124689484702093577611931399802 4681340520039478194986620262 40089021501661638135383815150377350229660746279529 1038406868556907015751662419 29872444827194293310048548244545807188976330032325 2582158128032746796200281476 24318286221710543528983482082734516801861317195933 2471107466222850871066611770 34653528395776259977446721857158161264111432717943 4788599089280848669491413909 77167369002777585026866465405659503948678411107901 1610400857274456293842549416 75946054871172359464291058509099502149587931121961 3590831588262068233215615308 68337308381732793281969838750870834838804638847844 1884003184712697454370937329 83624028751979208023218787448828728437273780178270 0805878241074935751488997891 17397461293203510814327032514090304874622629423443 2757126008664250833318768865 07564292716055252895449215376517514921963671810494 3531785838345386525565664065 72513635750643532365089367904317025978781771903148 6796384082881020946149007971 51377170990619549696400708676671023300486726314755 1053723175711432231741141168 06228642063889062101923552235467116621374996932693 2173704310598722503945657492 46169782609702533594750209138366737728944386964000 2811034402608471289900074680 77648440887113413525033678773167977093727786821661 1786534423173226463784769787 51443320953400016506921305464768909850502030150448 8083426184520873053097318949 29164253229336124315143065782640702838984098416029 5030924189712097160164926561 34134334222988279099217860426798124572853458013382 6099587717811310216734025656 27440072968340661984806766158050216918337236803990 2793160642043681207990031626 44491461902194582296909921227885539487835383056468 6488165556229431567312827439 08264506116289428035016613366978240517701552196265 2272545585073864058529983037 91803504328767038092521679075712040612375963276856 7484507915114731344000183257 03449209097124358094479004624943134550289006806487 0429353403743603262582053579 01183956490893543451013429696175452495739606214902 8872893279252069653538639644 32253883275224996059869747598823299162635459733244 4516375533437749292899058117 57863555556269374269109471170021654117182197505198 3178713710605106379555858890 55688528879890847509157646390746936198815078146852 6213325247383765119299015610 91897779220087057933964638274906806987691681974923 6562422608715417610043060890 43779766785196618914041449252704808819714988015420 5778700652159400928977760133 07568479669929554336561398477380603943688958876460 5498387147896848280538470173 08711177611596635050399793438693391197898871091565 4170913308260764740630571141 10988393880954814378284745288383680794188843426662 2207043872288741394780101772 13922819119923654055163958934742639538248296090369 0028835932774585506080131798 84071624465639979482757836501955142215513392819782 2698427863839167971509126241 05487257009240700454884856929504481107380879965474 8156891393538094347455697212 89198271770207666136024895814681191336141212587838 9557735719498631721084439890 14239484966592517313881716026632619310653665350414 7307080441493916936326237376 77770958503132559900957627319573086480424677012123 2702053374266705314244820816 81303063973787366424836725398374876909806021827857 8621651273856351329014890350 98832706172589325753639939790557291751600976154590 4477169226580631511102803843 60173747421524760851520990161585823125715907334217 3657626714239047827958728150 50956330928026684589376496497702329736413190609827 4063353108979246424213458374 09011693919642504591288134034988106354008875968200 5440836438651661788055760895 68967275315380819420773325979172784376256611843198 9102500749182908647514979400 31607038455494653859460274524474668123146879434416 1099333890899263841184742525 70445725174593257389895651857165759614812660203107 9762825416559050604247911401 69579003383565748692528007430256234194982864679144 7632277400552946090394017753 63356554719310001754300475047191448998410400158679 4617924161001645471655133707 40739502604427695385538343975505488710997852054011 7516974758134492607943368954 37832211724506873442319898788441285420647428097356 2580706698310697993526069339 21356858813912148073547284632277849080870024677763 0360555123238665629517885371 96730346347012229395816067925091532174890308408865 1606111901149844341235012464 69280288059961342835118847154497712784733617662850 6216977871774382436256571177 94500644777183702219991066950216567576440449979407 6503799995484500271066598781 36038023141268369057831904607927652972776940436130 2305178708054651154246939526 51271010529270703066730244471259739399505146284047 6743136373997825918454117641 33279064606365841529270190302760173394748669603486 9497654175242930604072700505 90395031485229213925755948450788679779252539317651 5641619716844352436979444735 59642606333910551268260615957262170366985064732812 6672452198906054988028078288 14297963366967441248059821921463395657457221022986 7759974673812606936706913408 15594120161159601902377535255563006062479832612498 8128819293734347686268921923 97778339107331065882568137771723283153290825250927 3304785072497713944833389255 20811756084529665905539409655685417060011798572938 1399825831929367910039184409 92865756059935989100029698644609747147184701015312 8376263114677420914557404181 59088000649432378558393085308283054760767995243573 9163122188605754967383224319 56506554608528812019023636447127037486344217272578 7950342848631294491631847534 75314350413920961087960577309872013524840750576371 9925365047090858251393686346 38633680428917671076021111598288755399401200760139 4703366179371539630613986365 54922137415979051190835882900976566473007338793146 7891318146510931676157582135 14248604422924453041131606527009743300884990346754 0551864067734260358340960860 55337473627609356588531097609942383473822220872924 6449768456057956251676557408 84103217313456277358560523582363895320385340248422 7337163912397321599544082842 16666360232965456947035771848734420342277066538373 8750616921276801576618109542 00977083636043611105924091178895403380214265239489 2968643980892611463541457153 51943428507213534530183158756282757338982688985235 5779929572764522939156747756 66760510878876484534936360682780505646228135988858 7925994094644604170520447004 63151379754317371877560398159626475014109066588661 6218003826698996196558058720 86397211769952194667898570117983324406018115756580 7428418291061519391763005919 43144346051540477105700543390001824531177337189558 5760360718286050635647997900 41397618089553636696031621931132502238517916720551 8065926351803625121457592623 83693482226658955769946604919381124866090997981285 7182349400661555219611220720 30922776462009993152442735894887105766238946938894 4649509396033045434084210246 24010487233287500817491798755438793873814398942380 1176270083719605309438394006 37561164585609431295175977139353960743227924892212 6704580818331376416581826956 21058728924477400359470092686626596514220506300785 9200248829186083974373235384 90839643261470005324235406470420894992102504047267 8105908364400746638002087012 66642094571817029467522785400745085523777208905816 8391844659282941701828823301 49715542352359117748186285929676050482038643431087 7956289292540563894662194826 87110428281638939757117577869154301650586029652174 5958198887868040811032843273 98671986213062055598552660364050462821523061545944 7448990883908199973874745296 98107762014871340001225355222466954093152131153379 1579802697955571050850747387 47507580687653764457825244326380461430428892359348 5296105826938210349800040524 84070844035611678171705128133788057056434506161193 3042444079826037795119854869 45591520519600930412710072778493015550388953603382 6192934379708187432094991415 95933963681106275572952780042548630600545238391510 6899891357882001941178653568 21491185282078521301255185184937115034221595422445 1190020739353962740020811046 55302079328672547405436527175958935007163360763216 1472581540764205302004534018 35723382926619153083540951202263291650544261236191 9705161383935732669376015691 44299449437448568097756963031295887191611292946818 8493633864739274760122696415 88489009657170861605981472044674286642087653347998 5822209061980217321161423041 94777549907387385679411898246609130916917722742072 3336763503267834058630193019 32429963972044451792881228544782119535308989101253 4297552472763573022628138209 18074397486714535907786335301608215599113141442050 9144729353502223081719366350 93468658586563148555758624478186201087118897606529 6989926932817870557643514338 20601410773292610634315253371822433852635202177354 4071528189813769875515757454 69397271504884697936195004777209705617939138289898 4532742622728864710888327017 37232588182446584362495805925603381052156062061557 1329915608489206434030339526 22634514542836786982880742514225674518061841495646 8611163540497189768215422772 24794740335715274368194098920501136534001238467142 9655186734415374161504256325 67134302476551252192180357801692403266995417460875 9240920700466934039651017813 48578356944407604702325407555577647284507518268904 1829396611331016013111907739 86324627782190236506603740416067249624901374332172 4645409741299557052914243820 80760983648234659738866913499197840131080155813439 7919485283043673901248208244 48141280954437738983200598649091595053228579145768 8496257866588599917986752055 45580990045564611787552493701245532171701942828846 1740273664997847550829422802 02329012216301023097721515694464279098021908266898 6883426307160920791408519769 52355534886577434252775311972474308730436195113961 1908003025587838764420608504 47306312992778889427291897271698905759252446796601 8970748296094919064876469370 27507738664323919190422542902353189233772931667360 8699622803255718530891928440 38050710300647768478632431910002239297852553723755 6621364474009676053943983823 57646069924652600890906241059042154539279044115295 8034533450025624410100635953 00395988644661695956263518780606885137234627079973 2723313469397145628554261546 76506324656766202792452085813477176085216913409465 2030767339184114750414016892 41213198268815686645614853802875393311602322925556 1894104299533564009578649534 09351152664540244187759493169305604486864208627572 0117231952640502309977456764 78384889734643172159806267876718380052476968840849 8918508614900343240347674268 62459523958903585821350064509981782446360873177543 7885967767291952611121385919 47254514003011805034378752776644027626189410175768 7268042817662386068047788524 28874302591452470739505465251353394595987896197789 1104189029294381856720507096 46062635417329446495766126519534957018600154126239 6228641389779673332907056737 69621564981845068422636903678495559700260798679962 6101903933126376855696876702 92953711625280055431007864087289392257145124811357 7862766490242516199027747109 03359333093049483805978566288447874414698414990671 2376478958226329490467981208 99848571635710878311918486302545016209298058292083 3481363840542172005612198935 36693713367333924644161252231969434712064173754912 1635700857369439730597970971 97266666422674311177621764030686813103518991122713 3972403688700099686292254646 50063852886203938005047782769128356033725482557939 1298525150682996910775425764 74883253414121328006267170940090982235296579579978 0301828242849022147074811112 40186076134151503875698309186527806588966823625239 3784527263453042041880250844 23631903833183845505223679923577529291069250432614 4695010986108889991465855188 18735825281643025209392852580779697376208456374821 1443398816271003170315133440 23095263519295886806908213558536801610002137408511 5448491268584126869589917414 91338205784928006982551957402018181056412972508360 7035685105533178784082900004 15525118657794539633175385320921497205266078312602 8196116485809868458752512999 74040927976831766399146553861089375879522149717317 2813151793290443112181587102 35187407572221001237687219447472093493123241070650 8061856237252673254073332487 57544829675734500193219021991199607979893733836732 4257610393898534927877747398 05080800155447640610535222023254094435677187945654 3040673589649101761077594836 45408234861302547184764851895758366743997915085128 5802060782055446299172320202 82229148869593997299742974711553718589242384938558 5859540743810488262464878805 33042714630119415898963287926783273224561038521970 1113046658710050008328517731 17764897352309266612345888731028835156264460236719 9664455472760831011878838915 11493409393447500730258558147561908813987523578123 3134227986650352272536717123 07568610450045489703600795698276263923441071465848 9578024140815840522953693749 97106655948944592462866199635563506526234053394391 4211127181069105229002465742 36041300936918892558657846684612156795542566054160 0507127664176605687427420032 95771606434486062012398216982717231978268166282499 3871499544913730205184366907 67235774000539326626227603236597517189259018011042 9038427418550789488743883270 30632832799630072006980122443651163940869222207453 2024462412115580435454206421 51215850568961573564143130688834431852808539759277 3443365538418834030351782294 62537020157821573732655231857635540989540332363823 1921989217117744946940367829 61859208034038675758341115188241774391450773663840 7188048935825686854201164503 13576333555094403192367203486510105610498727264721 3198654343545040913185951314 51812764373104389725070049819870521762724940652146 1995923214231443977654670835...

Re:I claim this first post for pi! (2, Funny)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047199)

just so you know, you've got a typo in there

Re:I claim this first post for pi! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047979)


NGA not NGIA (0, Offtopic)

DivineHawk (570091) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047165)

Kind of like calling the USA "USOA" or the FBI "FBOI".

Re:NGA not NGIA (1, Informative)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047189)

Actually not like that at all. But you are correct that it's officially the NGA, not NGIA.

Re:NGA not NGIA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047223)

Kind of like Central *Intelligence* Agency or CIA? ;)

Re:NGA not NGIA (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047369)

I think he actually means NIGA - the intelligence agency from the ghetto.

Re:NGA not NGIA (5, Funny)

Simon Garlick (104721) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047517)

nga plz.

Restriction on restriction (5, Insightful)

denoir (960304) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047173)

They can try to restrict as much as they can, but the fact is that much of the satellite images used by for instance Google are from non-US commercial sources. The only thing they'll accomplish by a restriction is hurting US business. The images will still be available from European and Japanese satellites.

More realistic is that they have to learn to live with the fact that satellite images are available to the general public and adjust their strategy accordingly.

Re:Restriction on restriction (4, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047281)

The only thing they'll accomplish by a restriction is hurting US business. The images will still be available from European and Japanese satellites.

Or US companies will just start doing more flyovers like they have been for Microsoft's Live Maps which offer views of locations from multiple locations (N, E, S, W). They are already trying to ban picture taking by civilians at various locations (what is this fucking North Korea?) and the flyovers will be next :(

Re:Restriction on restriction (4, Insightful)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047291)

They *bought* all the imagery.
You can restrict information in many ways you know.

Re:Restriction on restriction (2, Informative)

Ernesto Alvarez (750678) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047357)

More like they paid for the information not to be distributed.
The same information can be sold many times, it's not something that can be out of stock.
There is always the chance of someone having the information and not wanting an "exclusive deal" with the US intelligence community.

Re:Restriction on restriction (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047645)

"There is always the chance of someone having the information and not wanting an "exclusive deal" with the US intelligence community."
not likely.
Money talks.
"sure you can buy it, it costs $"
"mumble mumble no redistribution, mumble pay $$"
"well, normally I get $ from at least three companies, plus many 1/$ from smalltime users"
"mumble, family, mumble $$$$$$"
"deal!, you want the disks?"
"nah, we got better, mumble, destroy"

Re:Restriction on restriction (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047383)

...non-US commercial sources...

...images will still be available from European and Japanese satellites...
Either they are for US or against US.

...learn to live with the fact...
You must be new here. This regime does not "live with facts".

Re:Restriction on restriction (2, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047387)

More realistic is that they have to learn to live with the fact that satellite images are available to the general public and adjust their strategy accordingly.

Um, it's not the NGA that would have to 'adjust their strategy.' It's the many facilities, run by everyone from the DoE to DoS to DoD to state and municipal entities, all of which would have to adapt to it.

Re:Restriction on restriction (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047825)

Don't forget CTU and "Division"!

Re:Restriction on restriction (4, Insightful)

demachina (71715) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047451)

Exactly. The U.S. bureaucracy in particular, and America in general has such a massive dose of arrogance they are under the delusion they can still dictate anything and everything to the whole planet.

90% of whats gone wrong in the last six years is almost entirely due to a acute arrogance mixed with bad case of ignorance on the part of the people in the Bush administration. That's a really dangerous cocktail.

Russia, China, the E.U., Japan and India all have respectable capabilities to build and launch satellites, and more are joining the club. When the Space Shuttle is scraped there is probably going to be a very long window in which Russia and China will be able to put men in to orbit and the U.S. wont. The U.S. tries to bottle up satellite imagery I'm sure Russia or China will fill the void just to poke a finger in the eye of the U.S.

To me this just sounds like another round of post 9/11 fear mongering.

The U.S. seriously needs to wake up to the fact that the biggest threat to its National security is its massive trade and budget deficits, broken education system, energy dependence on parts of the world it can no long control, and a plunging dollar because no one has confidence in the U.S. anymore.

If the U.S. were spending money on those issues instead of on an out of control defense industrial complex:

A. It would be a lot more prosperous and secure
B. The rest of the world would hate the U.S. a lot less and have fewer reasons to want to attack it

The best defense program the U.S. could invest in right now is a serious effort to improve car mileage ASAP and then to develop clean, renewable and affordable energy sources.

Re:Restriction on restriction (2, Insightful)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047575)

Totally agree.

The best defense would be getting rid of the elements
that are inside the US that are actively trying to
damage the US.

The current admin does everything, seriously, everything
wrong, which creates long term damage.

You can predict what their response will be to any
situation: whatever will create damage will be the choice.

The list is long. Katrina is a good example.

Re:Restriction on restriction (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047705)

I was about to say that you don't understand human motivations very well... but I really think you don't understand them at all.

Re:Restriction on restriction (1)

ishobo (160209) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048267)

That plunging dollar has been helping our economy, making our exports attractive to foreign markets. Coporations also use the weak dollar to their advatange when repatriating their profits.

Russia has been helping us with our space needs for awhile; they have a contract in place with NASA.

Re:Restriction on restriction (3, Insightful)

adarklite (1033564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047907)

You can restrict a lot if you put your mind to it. The other countries will do as the US wishes because they don't want their sensitive military and intelligence data posted in a public forum as well. Quid pro quo. We don't want this information released to the general public and you don't want this information released.

Reasons (1)

mholt108 (229701) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048105)

the reason for this does not seem logical.. almost as if they would like to keep dark areas of the world .. so they can still have wars armies etc that most people are not aware of .. i cannot see the release of information leading to more conflict / suspicion / paranoia etc. but the restriction of these new sources of information would help perpetuate old prejudices and fear of others. how do i mistrust mistrusting Arabs / Chinese /Americans when i look into their lives and see that their struggles are the same as mine. so the restriction of information can only benefit those who thrive in the dark and who will loose power or income if we know what they are doing (if it is not legitimate) .. so more power to google earth i say.

panic? (2, Interesting)

blhack (921171) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047175)

While i understand the logic here to an extent, it is a bit of a knee jerk reaction. If somebody really needed ariel photos of a place for illicit purposes it would be MUCH easier for them to obtain them from a balloon, or even an airplane. Not to mention the fact that they would be much more up to date. Its not like google earth has chloe sitting there hacking into the secret reserved spy satelite and feeding a live stream to the turrists.

Re:panic? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047447)

While i understand the logic here to an extent, it is a bit of a knee jerk reaction. If somebody really needed ariel photos of a place for illicit purposes it would be MUCH easier for them to obtain them from a balloon, or even an airplane.

Have you ever tried this near military locations? And what kind of sentence did you get?

Re:panic? (1)

Grave (8234) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048231)

This has more to do with restricting access to imagery which might compromise potential or ongoing military action, I believe. To me, that makes complete sense - why allow your enemy to get a nice overhead view of your troop buildup if you don't have to?

Then again, I did not RTFA, so maybe I missed something.

May you know them better as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047177)

I had never heard of this particular intelligence agency.
They used to be called Defense Mapping

on control of information... (3, Insightful)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047179)

Vice Adm. Robert Murrett, director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, says that the increasing availability of commercial satellite photos may require the government to restrict distribution.

Reminds me of the old saying, "Beware of he who would restrict you from information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

Re:on control of information... (1)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047313)

Reminds me of the old saying, "Beware of he who would restrict you from information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

Isn't that from Alpha Centauri? 1998's not old, and I don't know of it from any other source.

Re:on control of information... (1)

Yartrebo (690383) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047853)

I just looked it up in the game, and it is indeed from the game. That line is quoted as being said by 'Pravin Lal,' while things the game quotes from outside sources are referred to as 'datalinks.'

Re:on control of information... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19048073)

1998's not old

Get back in your wheelchair you fossil! That's almost a whole friggin decade ago!

Re:on control of information... (1)

Urusai (865560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047409)

That ain't no dream, buddy.

Re:on control of information... (2, Insightful)

cowwoc2001 (976892) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048195)

Give me a break.

You didn't have unlimited access to satelite photography in the past, how is restricting said information in any way going to make them the masters of you. Governments have had this information for years and citizens did not.

Censorship is also a loaded word here too. They are not censoring your freedom of speech nor anything which you have inherit rights to. You, as a human being, do not have an inherit right to any bit of information that might exist on the face of the earth and it is silly for people to claim that restriction of information of any kind is censorship. It simply is not.

Stop wasting your days away on conspiracy theories. They're dumb and counter-productive. I'm not saying governments are always right but people have been overreaching as of late, wanting everything - immediately - for free. I think this says more a reflection of the selfish behavior of our generation than anything about our governments.

The TERROR of AN ATHEIST WORLD! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047201)

Ever wonder what life would be like in a world where atheism was the dominant religion? Wonder no more! Thanks to newly discovered Prayer Technologies we can glimpse into what life would be like in a godless world.
Let's take a look:

ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go fuck a hooker.
ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.
ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive."
ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!

The athiest kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again. I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life."
ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!
ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.
ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men fucking eachother in there.
ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?
ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile. They just aren't finished yet.
ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.

ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!
ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!

The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.

RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate your's! That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that! Die, Christian!


Scary, isn't it! Thank god we live in a christian nation, run by god-fearing republicans. Praise be to Jesus!

A Message from the Ministry of Truth (5, Insightful)

r_jensen11 (598210) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047203)

Ingorance is Strength

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Winston Smith

Re:A Message from the Ministry of Truth (1, Troll)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047527)

Ingorance is Strength
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery

Winston Smith
I'm sorry, why is this funny? Sounds pretty inciteful (yah, I can spell) to me.

Re:A Message from the Ministry of Truth (2, Interesting)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047769)

Google it, it's a quote (mixed up but accurate nonetheless) from 1984 by George Orwell. I believe the GP is commenting on how this act is a very Orwellian move by the government, trying to restrict information. Personally I have to agree, most countries have spy satellites, at least ones that are considered powerful, and so really if the terrorist's have any links to any countries, no matter how obscure, this won't matter. This is really nothing more than a solution to a problem that doesn't exist...a solution which won't work...remind anyone of anything *cough cough* DRM *cough cough* copy protection *cough*

Re:A Message from the Ministry of Truth (4, Funny)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048087)

remind anyone of anything *cough cough* DRM *cough cough* copy protection *cough*

Do you need some Sucrets? Maybe you should have called-in sick to Slashdot today.

Re:A Message from the Ministry of Truth (0, Offtopic)

r_jensen11 (598210) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047775)

Sounds pretty inciteful (yah, I can spell) to me.

Yah? How about "Ja," "Yea," or "Yeah"? But Yah? defines as "an exclamation of impatience or derision."

You americans are living in intelligence hell (3, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047209)

and service hell to boot.

nsa, fema, homeland security (what the fuck is that), cia, fbi, this new thing in the article now, count as much as you can im sure there are more.

i started to often think which rules your country - congress, senate and president, or these "service" organizations.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047289)

hey, fuck you bitch. what country do you live in? i bet it is every bit as restrictive as the u.s. and probably worse. stfu

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (2, Insightful)

MeNeXT (200840) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047329)

Did he touch a nerve?

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047339)

a nerve? More like more hate ramblings from another country.. like England maybe? where they have.. lip reading cameras... hah.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047541)

Such a fucking loser. Get out. Look outside the US. You're living a fucking police state and you don't even know it.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (0, Troll)

gsfprez (27403) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047413)

you can be jailed for going over the speeding limit by 20 mph, there are more cameras than people, its illegal to own GPS recievers that tell you where the speeding cameras are, new speeding cameras that identify individual cars and time you over long distances to see if you broke the average speeding limit, and now they're going to watch your every single move from the A4 and thru London, and send you a smegging bill.

I'd rather live in the US than in England.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (3, Funny)

Anomolous Cowturd (190524) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048101)

You know you're headed for disaster when your only consolation is being better than the English.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047463)

These big $$$ people are bound to come to our countries and screw us up when they bring us their "civilization". It's not that the US is bad, it's simply that their laws are actually enforced, and they have too many rules and loopholes (and lawyers) that will eventually reach us all for the sake of keeping big business owners happy (hello, copyright inquisitors, welcome to my our beautiful land). Unless we (people in the US included) get complaining and not accepting it instead of flaming at each other for our stupid governments that bows down to big money so easily.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047501)

Not just that there's also the NRO, the INR, that DIA, the Department of the Treasury intelligence division, the NIC, the NCTC, the NSA, the Army Intelligence and Security Command, the Office of Naval Intelligence, the Naval Security Group Command, the Air Intelligence Agency, the Energy Department Office of Intelligence, the INL, the DS and the Information Security Oversight Office. []

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (1, Interesting)

megamerican (1073936) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047623)

Your rant doesn't fit into the argument of this article in the slightest. If the NGA tries to restrict satellite imagery again like it did in Afghanistan it will effect everyone, not just Americans. There most likely won't even be a complete blackout in an area. They might restrict the most current photographs that would show American troops, but showing a picture taken in 2000 or another arbitrary date that doesn't show sensitive information wouldn't need to be blocked. It would be dumb to think that the NGA would publish photos of American troop movements or let others do so.

In this country we have a system of checks and balances, so no one of the three branches rule our country. Certainly none of these service organizations do either. Their budgets are way too small and most have direct congressional oversight. Our system is far from perfect, but it works well. This is not the place to bash America, or any other country.

Re:You americans are living in intelligence hell (4, Insightful)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048051)

homeland security (what the fuck is that)

Fatherland was taken.

Somewhat pointless, horse, barn, ... (4, Informative)

Tjp($)pjT (266360) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047211)

The European satellite imagery is also for sale and can be had in multi-spectral and .5 meter resolution. There are too many commercial satellite image providers and sources to make limiting access unrealistic. Governments can put up there own and collect the data, state sponsorered para-military can just use what their sponsor obtains and high altitude aerial photography can be purchased for almsot any local on an on-demand basis. The "bad guys" have this info easily no matter what is done, all they prevent is sending a picture of your house captured from above to your friends and family and such. All it takes is money to purchase the imagery and at better resolution than most free sources, as well as IR and various other wavelengths if desired. India and China launch satellites too and make satellites. With current known technology it would not be tough to collect the imagery and resell it just to tweak the NRO/NGIA noses.

Re:Somewhat pointless, horse, barn, ... (1)

chill (34294) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047649)

And .5 meter is the limit. His point is the NGA forked over over $1 Billion to help companies launch satellites that get better than .5 m resolution, and by law -- U.S. AND European, IIRC -- they are supposed to degrade the image to .5 m before selling it to non-approved clients.

They have $$, and money talks. So much so that during the beginning of the Afghan war, they simply BOUGHT UP EVERY SAT PHOTO AVAILABLE of the area for months.

Half-meter resolution is good. If you know what you're looking at, you can identify makes and models of vehicles. But they're probably talking about ~.1 meter resolution which is more like "Hey, look -- he dropped his wallet while exiting the factory red 2006 BMW Z4 with the black rag-top. Wow, get a load of the rack on that blond he is with!"

Considering Europe can't even get Galileo off the ground, they don't seem like likely candidates to rush into the skies with super-spy sats.

Coming soon to a country near you... (3, Interesting)

Kuroji (990107) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047213)

I'm sure that Congress will pass a bill restricting the distribution of satellite imagery attached to something else that must pass in the near future. Something innocuous and large like a budget or telecom related bill.

On the plus side, the images that are already out there are staying out there, so some things like Google Earth are just going to become outdated, but they've already been doing this in some other circumstances - ever try to look at any of the buildings in DC for instance?

Will the images out there stay out there? (1)

Anonymous McCartneyf (1037584) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047301)

We are talking about a government that has removed things like nuclear-plant schematics from libraries. There are many plans and censuses and charts which were once freely available, but if you the average slashdotter want them now, then you'd better have made copies before now or know someone else who has.
It's easy to take down a website. I see fanfiction websites (think "derivative works") disappear all the time. The government can't keep satellites from other nations from taking pictures at whatever resolution, but they could make Google take Google Earth down.

torn between privascy and rigth to know (5, Insightful)

uncreativ (793402) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047221)

I really don't like the government telling us what information we have the right to have. (sigh) guess we've gone too far down the rabbit hole on that one.

I also really don't like the idea of companies making imagery of my property available to whomever wants it. My business is my business and is not for sale. I guess preventing that from happening is futile as well.

Re:torn between privascy and rigth to know (2, Interesting)

Tuoqui (1091447) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047309)

You could always cover you property in a giant tarp. That way they cant see whats going on underneath it...

Ofcourse that only works if you have a relatively small property.

Re:torn between privascy and rigth to know (1)

Score Whore (32328) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047587)

Or a relatively giant tarp.

Re:torn between privascy and rigth to know (2, Interesting)

Duhavid (677874) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048427)

And, you can put advertising on the tarp.
Rent it out, you know.

Re:torn between privascy and rigth to know (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047653)

Comes back to the use of personal anti-satalite weaponry, so long as its not ballistic or laser you should be fine.

If you are charged with destruction of national property you can ask them where it was clearly labled, and of course claim that you thought it was a meteorite and you were upholding your right to bear (admittedly a little overpowered) arms to defend your home, family and country.

Of course they would just throw you in jail with no charges and claim 6mths later that "army contractors have finnished testing of a new weapon", but there would be one less eye up there...

Censorship of satellite photos? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047235)

Enjoy [] while [] you [] can. []

Slashdot Strategy Sessions (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047269)

"we would not want imagery to be openly disseminated of a sensitive site of any type, whether it is here or overseas"
This guy has it all wrong - they should be opensourcing these images, not closing them off. Let the denizens of parents' basements across America search for signs of Osama. We could have slashdot strategy sessions:

slashdotter 1: 'We need to lure them with a weak force down the center, then surprise outflank them - it worked for the Carthaginians.

slashdotter 2: 'You asstard: the Carthaginians were destroyed - the Romans sowed their fucking fields with fucking salt. someone mod this dipshit down

slashdotter 3: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047305)

On 24 Apr 2007, The Black Monk wrote:

>Here are some of his words from his manifesto:
> april07/nerdkiller.htm
>"Psy-Cho, as Lone Star Times calls him, rejected Christianity,
>condemned debauchery and wealth


Interesting juxtaposition of words. Cho "rejected Xianity", yet
he "condemned debauchery" and mammon-worship. In the sense that
most self-described "Christians" are wholesale hypocrites, then
Cho rejected them, not our LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ. Or if
Cho did say he rejected Christianity, I haven't seen this video,
or read it in his manifesto. Perhaps someone knows where he said
"I reject Christianity". Are these Cho's word's, or the media's?

>and called himself "Ishmael" or
>"Ismail Ax". Scores of bloggers have speculated about a link to

Cho's aforementioned condemnation of debauchery, and mammon-
worship, and imputed rejection of westernized "Christianity",
rejection -- condemnation, such reveals Cho's projection of
his own feelings of not fitting into a hypocritical society
of "Christians" who worship mammon and promote all manner of
debauchery. Obviously, Cho himself felt--in some ways, was--
rejected and condemned by the aforesaid. Cho didn't fit in,
much as our Muslim brethren are having trouble "fitting in",
or our Mexican brethren are having trouble "fitting in" etc.
But all nations, all peoples are guilty of being xenophobic,
hypocritical, mammon-worshipping and into everything immoral;
if not one thing, then something else, sinners are *always*
into _something_ immoral, pornography, pharmaceuticals, etc.

Cho had attended America's hard-line Anti-Christian Atheistic
public schools from the time he arrived here at age 8, through
2003 when he graduated high school. Thus Cho was schizophrenic:
part-Atheist by training and indoctrination, part-Christian by
his immortal soul seeing the Light. We might loosely associate
the left-brain with the mundane (Atheist) training, "severity",
and right-brain with the more sublime awareness of heaven and
hell, ergo "wisdom". Whereby Cho's intense psychic affliction,
his karma, and karmic attraction by those to his upset sphere
of influence, could not be reconciled from within and so Cho
externalized it, and went bloody "postal" April 16, 2007 AD.

This next quote from Cho is likewise revealing:

>Cho rejected the reported strong Christian faith of his parents.
>"Jesus loves crucifying me," he said in a video clip. "You loved
>introducing cancer in my head and terrorising my heart, raping my soul
>all this time."

Jesus, love, take up your cross, me (Cho's mortal ego-self).
That's a very Christian thing to say, actually. Next, "You",
here meaning the mortal-world fallen in sin, "meet my new
friend cancer", mortality, dis-ease, which can manifest in
real disease (kudos Edgar Cayce). Cho was contemptuous of
his bad karma, and that of the world, seeing that we are
verily Lucifers all: each time our soul is kicked out of
heaven to mortally incarnate to this "struggling" earth
(cf. Adolf Hitler's Kampf--revealing his own afflictions).

Cho seems to blame Jesus Christ for Cho's own sinfulness.
you know, like "the devil made me do it". Indeed, by Cho
allowing his God-self (Devil of the major arcana, Aries)
to be controlled by his ego-self (devil-incarnate of the
minor arcana, literally the human ego of the human brain,
it can be rightly said that the devil did make Cho do it.
As the maxim goes, our ego makes an excellent servant but
a poor master. Cho lost control of his own ego, as we see.

Thus, the holier-than-thou hypocritical world loves mammon
and debauchery, exacerbating the unease, unsettling motion,
emotional distress, in Cho's mortal ego-self, "in my head".

Then "terrorizing my heart", which Cho clearly externalized,
culminating in the profuse VT massacre. Cho's "heart," heart
of passion, compassion, for mortal life on earth. The terror
being his Taurean affliction. The obvious association of the
term "terrorism" with the on-going war with the Mahumetanes
goes without saying. But terrorism is global, all vulnerable
men being terrorists, to varying degrees, in their own right:
survival of the fittest is part of our human-animal instinct.
Those who worship the animal man, the beast, lose control of
it, enslaving their souls to the image thereof. Cho did this,
just as all mortal sinners do this, each to their own degree.

The "axe" invokes the Scythe of time, Saturn, Kronos; e.g.,
"from heaven will come one grand King of terror", 'K'utting
off the head of the beast. Cho wanted the war to end in time.
Cf. battle axe, or an executioner's axe, edge of a guillotine,
or to quote the Authorised Version "every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is *hewn* down, and cast into the fire";
"Armageddon", rising and falling, our shame in death, and our
contempt in the second death--in the long count of experience.

Only the elect few are aware of this and remember some parts
of their past incarnations and corresponding physical births,
lives and deaths, and interim discarnations and corresponding
heavenly recoveries, superconscious heavenly lives, Limbo and
Purgatory, the nine circles of Heaven & Hell, and inevitable
second death, when soul is banished from heaven again, until
the grand cycle of the fallen man is complete before 2331 AD.

* Gk ekkopto

Next, the word "rape", in context, is most conspicuous of all,
literally "raping my soul all this time". Any soul, any person,
who's ever actually been forcibly raped, they know exactly what
the word "rape" means! And for that matter, to be badly beaten,
kidnapped, incarcerated, tortured, murdered, (all of the above).

What was that film starring Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr.
(I googled it, 'Instinct', 1999): "What have I taken from you?"
Among the many illusions that the illusory suffer from, is the
illusion that they are somehow "better" than human beings from
other nations, of other races, creeds, cultures, etc. All men
are Created equal. Or, from another Anthony Hopkins film "what
one man can do, another man can do". The hypocrites who judge
Cho are as much judging them-selves, even society. America and
the empire shall be verily Judged...and mighty is His Judgment!

From the seat of his soul, Cho had felt violated the entire time
he was mortally-incarnate upon the earth. So karma's a bitch and
then you die(!) Cho failed to heed the sermons, precepts, of God.
Cho had long-since surrendered his own God-given sovereignty and
allowed his animal-self to become a pawn in a vastly bigger game.

So I say again, and this is just advice, do not judge Cho or any
other sinner too harshly, else, to quote M. Nostradamus (C10Q65):

                "O vaste Rome ta ruyne s'approche,
                  O vast Rome your ruin is approaching,

                  Non de tes murs, de ton sang & substance,
                  Not of your walls, of your blood & substance,

                  L'aspre par lettres fera si horrible coche,
                  The harsh by letters will make so horrible notch,

                  Fer pointu mis a tous iusques au manche.
                  Iron pointed put to all until the grip."

In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min []

iQA/AwUBRjFGgZljD7YrHM/nEQIOlQCeNwZ6JbzuFANo3it8M1 gujM3HbssAn0lR

Spy Chief Hints At Limits On Satellite Photos (1)

JackSpratts (660957) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047335)

good luck on that one pal.

Re:Spy Chief Hints At Limits On Satellite Photos (1)

Anonymous McCartneyf (1037584) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047379)

So, how many of us plan to launch satellites in the near future?

I welcome... (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047337)

... our capitalist overlords!

NGA = NIMA (4, Informative)

Dolphinzilla (199489) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047353)

NGA (NGIA in the submission) the artist formerly known as NIMA - not a new organization just a different name...

For profit division (1)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047717)

Link []

The Department of the Interior, U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), is the distributor of public sale National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) topographic maps, publications, and digital products.

Re:For profit division (1)

swilly (24960) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047847)

Better Link []

While you are there, check out their Kids Site [] . I can't make up my mind if this is funny, sad, or both.

NIMA changed their name to NGA when they realized that all the cool agencies have a Three Letter Acronym (TLA). Without a TLA, they weren't being invited to the best parties, so they changed their name to National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. Using the dash to make a TLA out of four words is a great conversation starter at these kinds of parties.

Re:For profit division (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19048107)

While you are there, check out their Kids Site. I can't make up my mind if this is funny, sad, or both.

WARNING: That link is not to be used while intoxicated. Trust me on this one.

Re:For profit division (1)

Gazzonyx (982402) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048431)

While you are there, check out their Kids Site. I can't make up my mind if this is funny, sad, or both.

WARNING: That link is not to be used while intoxicated. Trust me on this one.

My friend, I just visited and I assure you; I cannot handle this trip sober. On the bright side, you'll be able to forget it, whereas I must now live with it. There are just some things you can't unsee. I, most unfortunately, do believe that talking planets and satellites fall into this category. I think this confirms something or other than Hunter S. Thompson once said... I'm not sure what, but it has to !

Re:NGA = NIMA (1)

Danny Rathjens (8471) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047895)

Not In My Atlas?!

Suspicious Cloud (1)

limegreenman (719290) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047365)

A certain agri-chemical plant, embroiled in a dioxin controversy, is conveniently obscured by cloud on google maps th,+new+zealand&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=-39.062691,174.024 376&spn=0.002878,0.00559&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr/ [] . Surely a better solution?

Re:Suspicious Cloud (1)

ObjetDart (700355) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047513)

Hey, that looks exactly like a screenshot from Sim City when you've zoned too much industrial in one place. You should put in some more parks.

Re:Suspicious Cloud (2, Funny)

slayermet420 (1053520) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047577)

Ummmm, you said it's a "suspicious cloud" over a "chemical plant"? You ever stop to think that it could be "smoke"? That's what it looks like to me.

Re:Suspicious Cloud (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047725)

Looks like the edge of a cumulus cloud to me. Zoom out a little.

In Soviet Russia... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047421)

Maps are classified documents! ...oh wait...

Don't Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! It's a ... (5, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047443)

There are already plenty of public places in the USA with posted signs prohibiting video/photos.

These restrictions are clear violations of the Constitution, which creates no power for our government to prevent our recording public places. Not to mention absolutely unamerican in attitude.

There's so much accumulated destruction of America to fix now that it'll take generations to even catch up to where we could be, not to mention all the new problems accumulating while we're catching up. If we can even reverse momentum at all.

Re:Don't Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! It's a (1)

gadzook33 (740455) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047791)

Right, but this is a totally unrealistic view of the world. If government buildings are public places, you should be able to photograph those to, right? You should be able to photograph the invasion plans for Normandy, right? I'm as afraid of the slippery slope of censorship as the next person but surely the answer (as usual) is actually somewhere in the middle.

Re:Don't Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! It's a (2, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048041)

Of course I should be able to photograph the public parts of those buildings, like the parts I can see from the street. Of course I should be able to photograph the Normandy invasion plans, now that the invasion is over a half-century old, and they're in a museum.

And of course the interiors of "public" buildings that are actually classified/restricted (including offices requiring appointments), and new plans still closed to public access, should not be photographed without proper authorization.

That's why we spend so much time and money building public buildings: they control access to their interiors.

This situation seems like a basic reality, while trying to stop photography of public exteriors is a basic fantasy. Part of the simcurity that pretends to protect us but keeps us scared into obedience by merely obscuring both how vulnerable and how safe we actually are.

Re:Don't Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! It's a (1)

gadzook33 (740455) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048263)

Yeah, the outside of those building are sensitive (maybe not classified but that doesn't really matter). There's no difference between the security posture of a nuclear silo and war plans. They don't have those signs up because they're worried about you photographing the building, they have signs up because they're worried about you doing recon on the security detail. But then, that's sort of self-evident, isn't it?

Re:Don't Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! It's a (2, Insightful)

njchick (611256) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048247)

The US Constitution doesn't preclude the states from regulating public places.

You Americans (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047511)

You're nothing but Chinese...with round eyes... blonde hair, and thick white beards. Your dick is hard, and your spine is limp as an overcooked noodle.

Its for our own good, folks. (1)

sizzzzlerz (714878) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047539)

It will keep up safe from them evil terra-ists should they decide to follow us home using Google Earth to find their way. Besides, knowledge is way over-rated anyway.

oh really... (4, Insightful)

toby (759) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047549)

During the early months of the invasion of Afghanistan they bought up all satellite imagery over that country, worldwide

Did they buy everything Russia has*? How? Is it really credible that Russia would enter into some kind of clandestine NDA over this material? And what would it mean if they did? We can assume that the US government has more money than $GOD to execute its evil. But what would be the motive here? To prevent before-and-after comparisons? Did they buy up all Iraq's too?

* - There must be a substantial archive of Afghan intelligence somewhere in Russia, as a legacy of the 9-year war. []

Re:oh really... (1)

jim_deane (63059) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047929)

If you're referring to nine year old intelligence images, you might as well give them maps of Kansas and label them "Afghanistan".

Nine year old data, unless it is part of a "then and now" data set or some specific study about historical trends, is useless.

Agency names (2, Informative)

Galen Wolffit (188146) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047567)

The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency used to be the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA), but they changed their name sometime in 2003 or 2004. They wanted to play with the "big boy" intelligence agencies, all of whom had three letter acronyms, so they changed their name and added a hyphen - they're now known as NGA, not NGIA.

Other people have satellites (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047659)

The Russians are hungry for cash- why wouldn't they or the Chinese sell images that the US wanted hidden?

is that peter norton? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047663)

it just occurred to me that, for as long as i can remember, i have assumed that the slashdot censorship icon was peter norton--of norton utilities fame--with tape over his mouth.

now i'm not so sure.

Intelligence Agency? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047683)

If you click around the NGIA website long enough, you will wind up at an open Netscape LDAP server, where you may freely search the agency's employee LDAP tree. There are some visible admin links, but I didn't click any. Most of the information is mundane, but each search result included full name, employment status (contractor/fte), sex, and user ids. Hint: you get there through a link in a PDF available on the site. You might not find that information interesting, but others might (it is a government intelligence agency, after all).

I question the legitimacy of any intelligence agency this sloppy. I bet they have as much depth as the DHS.

Re:Intelligence Agency? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047959)

Look out, they'll be after you because you haxxored them! Obscurity is security, and you didn't respect their securitah!

Re:Intelligence Agency? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047967)

>I question the legitimacy of any intelligence agency this sloppy.

I hope slashdot will let me make an anon posting today.

I know quite a few of the people who work in that office, because they provide a great deal of Geospatial data to us research types, to the USEPA, to the USGS, to state agencies, etc.

The thing I wanted to point out is that many of them could, if they chose, greatly increase their salaries if they wanted to work in the EPA, USGS, or for a municipal survey organization. They choose to stay at the federal level either because it is a good way to start a career, or because it's important to remain there until retirement (there are vanishingly few employees in-between). It's a different kind of Dilbert Principle that's somewhat unique to government work.

"Launches"?? (1)

retrogameguy (1096733) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047737)

I guess they didn't read Slashdot a little while back on how Google Earth gets the images they use. Not all are from space - they also use planes, hot air balloons - really anything that can get high and have a camera attached.

What for? (5, Insightful)

snowwrestler (896305) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047845)

What is the strategic weakness exposed by satellite imagery, that is not exposed by the other myriad sources of information that are available? So you can see the top of the White House on Google Maps. So what, anyone can see it from the Washington Monument or the Hay Adams.

Important strategic installations are already satellite-proofed because of the Russians. The rest doesn't matter because there are so many other ways to find out the same information.

This is just like the time a National Geographic photographer was denied permission to photograph a bridge becuase of security concerns. He pointed out that if someone wants to know where the bridge is, they can read a map. If they want to see it they can drive over it as many time as they want. It didn't sway them and in fact he was told if he went up in the helicopter he would be shot down. Morons.

How to mirror google earth (1)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047889)

Is there a way to wget (or similar method) the entire contents of the google earth system to a local server(s) so as to have a local system that can't be taken down/controlled by information supressionists?
I'm no fan of google but a local, isolated copy of their google earth system could perhaps prove useful if for some reason it ever falls under some sort of restrictions or is even shut down..

I have no idea how much space the server would consume but I would guess it's a lot.
But hey, 500gb drives are regular $129 at newegg now. Building BIG data retention systems is easy and cheap now.

Re:How to mirror google earth (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19047961)

"Is there a way to wget (or similar method) the entire contents of the google earth system to a local server(s) so as to have a local system that can't be taken down/controlled by information supressionists?"

That's easy. Download USAPhotoMaps, the free...shareware program. All the map data gets downloaded to your local HD and is there for ever and ever.

Restricting information (0, Troll)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047949)

What they are concerned about, of course, is not Google Maps and static data like that. They are very concerned about these foreign concerns sharing near-real-time tactical information, i.e. there's a brigade camped out at Lat xx, Long xx. and they have 4 tanks. This would permit active use in targeting and attack planning our troops.

          The US are perfectly justified in using any means possible to deny the enemy this information. Of course, our allies will refuse to supply it, if they do not they are not our allies but are aiding the enemy. If they can't talk them into not sharing it, they will try to buy it, but if they can't or the operators refuse, they are perfectly legitimate targets and can and should be taken out. And it's certainly feasible to do so.

        This isn't some sort of Goddamn game, we are talking about our troops lives here.


India is the only other country .. (2, Interesting)

viksit (604616) | more than 7 years ago | (#19047999) offer that kind of imagery at the resolutions of 1m or less. There's no way people are going to sell their rights - especially if they're foreign governments.

ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) is the world's third and only second non-US supplier of 1-m imageries and perhaps the most competitively priced; the data comes at a premium of nearly 40 per cent. Some data is internationally priced at $18-20 per picture of a sq km.

From []

Restrictions? Laughable.

How dare they.... (1)

hcmtnbiker (925661) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048007)

Whatever will I do without 10cm resolution aerial photos of nuclear power plants? Honestly, when the time comes up that i need that, that's when I'll bitch, not now.

Can you receive and decode this stuff yourself? (4, Interesting)

ikekrull (59661) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048059)

I know that weather satellites transmissions can be received and decoded using a PC easily enough - I wonder just how much more difficult it would be to decode signals from imaging satellites from your own dish?

I'm sure they use some type of encryption, but you know, thats not always (e.g. HD-DVD) the barrier it is supposed to be. Also, recent events such as the Tamil Tigers hijacking satellite bandwidth makes me wonder just what might be possible.

Anyone do any satellite hacking?

down with the man! (1)

saltmiser (946687) | more than 7 years ago | (#19048121)

More examples of the man trying to ruin perfectally good online data. If they fully had it their way, they'd probably fully dub out every government funded building...

It's not wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19048187)

Not to them. It's not wrong. To them, it is exactly right, because it is exactly what they want.

Can't comprehend that behaviour? I urge you, and anyone else who is continually asking the question "why, why would they do that?" to research Ponerology, or failing that, Psychopathy. Our planet depends on it.
Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?