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Seven Tracks for 80s Guitar Hero Announced

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the rock-hard-with-bigger-hair dept.

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Ars Technica's Opposable Thumbs blog has a partial track list for Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s , an upcoming expansion for the hit music game. Poster Ben Kuchera wonders aloud about the report that it will be 'exclusively for the PlayStation 2'; given the recent release of Guitar Hero on the 360 it makes little sense that we won't see the new tracks as downloadable content. The tracks announced so far: "I Wanna Rock (by Twisted Sister), I Ran (by Flock of Seagulls), Round and Round (as made famous by Ratt), I Want Candy (as made famous by Bow Wow Wow), Metal Health (as made famous by Quiet Riot), Holy Diver (as made famous by Dio), Heat Of The Moment (as made famous by Asia)"

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Not Even Dio (1, Troll)

morari (1080535) | more than 6 years ago | (#19068783)

...can make up for the overwhelming load of crap that are the other tracks. I guess it's not inherently the game's fault though, the 80s wasn't a very good decade overall, popular music just happened to suffer the most.

Re:Not Even Dio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19068849)

At least the fasion was good.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069021)

You honestly think that?

Personally, I LOVE everything about the 80's. It's cheesyness was part of it's appeal.

Go and watch Breakfast Club and just try to get through the whole movie without your foot tapping to the beat at least once.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

Quila (201335) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069047)

Bow wow wow's "I Want Candy" was a cover of the 60s song by the Strangeloves. It was better than any of the other covers.

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Insightful)

slim (1652) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069077)

...can make up for the overwhelming load of crap that are the other tracks. I guess it's not inherently the game's fault though, the 80s wasn't a very good decade overall, popular music just happened to suffer the most.
The 80s were a golden age for the sort of widdly hair metal that works well in Guitar Hero. I hope they're saving the best for later announcements though: some Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Europe...

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

mjbinon (1099409) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069139)

I hope they're saving the best for later announcements though: some Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Europe...
Absolutely. I don't own and haven't really played either of the GH games (other than at a demo), so I apologize if these have been done already, but if there was some Wanted, Dead or Alive or The Final Countdown I'd buy this game in a second.

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Funny)

soulprivate (1011963) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069731)

Blasphemy!!!! Even *naming* Def Leppard on the same sentence with Bon Jovi and Europe is insulting!! (for DL of course)

Re:Not Even Dio (0, Flamebait)

pinchhazard (728983) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070045)

God damn you guys are all so washed up. Especially the guy who suggested that Bon Jovi is worth a damn.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

iron-kurton (891451) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070483)

Seriously.. I'm still just happy Hangar 18 was in GH2. Hell, I'd even settle for 80s Metallica, you know, before they sucked.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

ShadowBlasko (597519) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071417)

Thats kinda funny you say that .. Seeing as the last time I saw Europe in the 80's... They were opening for Def Leppard.

Then again... Ratt/Poison was a good double bill... As was White Lion, Great White, and White Snake. (Who played in that order)

I miss the days when any random person could camp out for 12 hours and come up with front row center seats for a concert that would sell out later that day. Now all the choice seats are snapped up by ticket brokers with automated ordering systems... and they resell them for $500 bucks.

Meh.. must be feeling old. Get off my lawn and all that...

Re:Not Even Dio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19073621)

That reminds me of a riddle: What has seven arms and sucks?

Re:Not Even Dio (-1, Flamebait)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069135)

There were some great songs in the 80's. Those just aren't it. Here are a few I would have liked to see:

  • Paradise City by Guns 'N Roses
  • Wild Wild West by Escape Club
  • I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) by The Proclaimers
  • Ghostbusters by Ray Parker, Jr.
  • Jump by Van Halen
  • It's My Life by Bon Jovi
  • Just about anything by Queen
  • We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel
  • Livin' on a Prayer by Bon Jovi
  • Send Me An Angel by Real Life
  • Tonight, Tonight, Tonight by Genesis

I could probably go on all day, but you get the idea.

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069207)

Does Ghostbusters even have guitar in it? I seem to recall all the music being from a synthesizer. Although I may not be thinking of the same song.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069401)

I'm not sure if it was all a synth or a synth and a guitar. It was certainly intended to sound like a guitar in the background.

Here's Greenday's version [youtube.com] with an actual guitar. They need to slow it down a bit, though...

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069489)

Side Note: I should say it's "allegedly" Green Day's version. Seems to be some confusion on who's cover it actually is. :P

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069623)

depends. the original song is pretty much synthesizer but it plays great on an electric guitar (actually two and a bass guitar) because the rhythm track are basically powerchords and the lead part also sounds like it was made for a guitar in first place, like pretty much the rest of the song. why they used synthesizers at all escapes me completely.

Re:Not Even Dio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19069747)

instead of Ghostbusters wouldn't it be better to use the original: I Want a New Drug by Huey Lewis. It at least has guitars in it.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069819)

Does Ghostbusters even have guitar in it? I seem to recall all the music being from a synthesizer.
Yes... IIRC (also) Ghostbusters was primarily/all synth. Though, the bits where he's saying "I ain't afraid of no ghost" used it in a somewhat guitar-like manner.

As for the GP mentioning Van Halen's "Jump"... not a good choice for a supposed guitar game either. Listen to it... the whole driving force of the song is those in-your-face synth chords. The guitar's only really prominent during the bridge and at the start of the middle-8. Sure, someone could re-arrange the synth parts for guitar, and it would probably work, but it wouldn't be Jump in all its early-80s-analogue-synth cheesiness, would it?

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

pragma_x (644215) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070047)

Technically it did have guitar, but it was playing mostly backup to the synth and had the same hook over and over again. Supposedly, it was a sample of the hook from "I Want a New Drug" played back at a faster tempo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_&_the_News #Ghostbusters [wikipedia.org]

If you listen to both back-to-back, it's impossible to not notice this. Even the reprisal to that hook is mostly saxaphone. That said, it's probably a lousy candidate for a GH song.

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Insightful)

mjbinon (1099409) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069217)

I may be wrong, but It's My Life and We Didn't Start the Fire didn't come out in the 80's. Not even close in the case of It's My Life.

And several of those (We Didn't Start the Fire, Wild, Wild West for example) are great songs, but not exactly known for their guitar tracks.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069305)

Doh! I didn't realize about "It's My Life" (silly me, I had assumed it was a track they didn't play on the radio at the time), but "We didn't start the Fire" most certainly came out in the 80's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Didn't_Start_the_F ire [wikipedia.org]

And several of those (We Didn't Start the Fire, Wild, Wild West for example) are great songs, but not exactly known for their guitar tracks.

Neither are most of their picks. That doesn't stop them from being rearranged for the guitar. Wild, Wild West already utilizes the (bass?) guitar, so it's not too much of a stretch.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070853)

"It's My Life" had a bit of a revival in the 80's while the show Bosom Buddies was popular. That show used "It's My Life" as its theme song. I miss funny Tom Hanks. Peter Scolari needs to smack him around a bit and make him realize how good he used to be.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

markbt73 (1032962) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069733)

"We Didn't Start the Fire" was '89. But that Proclaimers song was like '92-93.

I could probably come up with a list of songs I'd like to see, but I'd be here all day...

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069725)

Dude... It's My Life came out in 2000. And those Ray Parker and Proclaimers aren't exactly featured-guitar songs.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069975)

Dude... It's My Life came out in 2000.

Yeah, I'm feeling pretty sheepish about that one. (Bhaaaaa!)

And those Ray Parker and Proclaimers aren't exactly featured-guitar songs.

As someone already mentioned, Ghostbusters was obviously written for a guitar. Why they used a synth that sounds like a guitar is... well... who the heck knows? There was I link I posted above of a version done with actual guitars.

As for the Proclaimers, those look an aweful lot like guitars they're playing there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQfqSWe8eVE [youtube.com]

Ok, so it's not a hard rock beat. But I thought this was 80's music Guitar Hero, not "Electric Guitar Hero". :-P

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Insightful)

pragma_x (644215) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069831)

Good list, but it needs more metal:
  • Breaking the Law* by Judas Priest
  • Run to the Hills by Iron Maiden
  • Bark at the Moon by Ozzy Osbourne
  • Peace Sells (but who's buying?)** by Megadeth
  • The Final Countdown by Europe
And on the pop side of things:
  • Sharp Dressed Man by ZZ Top
  • Power of Love by Hewey Lewis
  • Hungry Like the Wolf by Duran Duran
(* good easy mode song)
(** still appropos 20 years later)

US-centric choice of music? (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070225)

Of the seven songs listed in the article, only two of them ("Heat of the Moment" and "I want Candy") were hits in the UK. Of the others, "I Ran", "Mental Health" and "Holy Diver" didn't even reach the Top 40. The Twisted Sister one isn't even listed as a Top 75 single (if it was released here at all). As for Ratt... who?! I've never heard of them, but apparently the best they could do was #50 in the album charts (no Top 75 singles listed).

Ta very much "Guinness British Hit Singles and Albums"... :-)

Anyway, maybe they'll redo it for different markets, or maybe they'll assume that the target audience is too young to remember the 80s, so they don't think it'll matter anyway. I don't know how important osmosis is (i.e. hearing songs on the radio later on or rifling through your parents record/CD collection) in that case.

Re:US-centric choice of music? (1)

fotbr (855184) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070517)

I think "Crappy choice of music" would be a better description, rather than it being a US-centric thing.

Most of the songs listed sucked here in the States as well.

Re:US-centric choice of music? (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070827)

I think "Crappy choice of music" would be a better description, rather than it being a US-centric thing. Most of the songs listed sucked here in the States as well.
Sure, but I assume that they were hits, which was the point I was making. Even if Americans think they're cheesy now, it's what they grew up with as teenagers (or have heard since) and this- I assume- is part of the game's appeal.

OTOH, most of the songs (and even some of the bands) are pretty unknown in the UK, and I'm not convinced that the point of a game like Guitar Hero is to have unknown songs.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

R2P2 (193577) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070361)

Good list, but it needs more metal

No, no, NO. The biggest complaint about GH2 was TOO MUCH METAL. Are you trying to wreck the game?

Re:Not Even Dio (2, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070837)

Dang, this is difficult isn't it? The more I pull up these old songs, the more I realize that they all have to be rearranged to be effective in Guitar Hero due to their overuse of the synth. Final Countdown is a perfect example. It's got a great solo (as in Jump), but the rest of it is almost entirely driven by the synth.

Ok, here's a few more tries for songs that wouldn't need rearrangement (I think):

  • Rebel Yell by Billy Idol
  • Walk like an Egyptian by The Bangles
  • We Got the Beat by the Go Gos
  • Edge Of Seventeen by Stevie Nicks (?)

? Not sure if this one would translate to the game very well.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

jacobw (975909) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071539)

Am I the only one hungry for a Classical Guitar Hero?

Huh. Guess I am.

Well, it was worth asking.

Basically, my dream Guitar Hero would be half classical and half Aerosmith.

(I KNOW I'm the only one there. I don't even need to ask.)

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071631)

Guitar Hero: Spanish Guitar sounds great to me. Nintendo would then follow up with their own "classic" spinoff, Donkey Harmonica. :P

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

xpsartanx (800410) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070049)

I coulda sworn those 2 Bon Jovi songs were from the 90's... It's My Life was around '99 iirc. They should get some Steve Vai songs on there ;)

My Selection (1)

Garabito (720521) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070509)

I'd choose:

Crazy Train (Ozzy Osbourne)
Rock Of Ages (Def Leppard)
The Number Of The Beast (Iron Maiden)
Jump (Van Halen)
I Will Follow (U2)
Fade To Black (Metallica)
Hurts So Good (John Cougar/Mellencamp/whatever)
Paradise City (Guns 'N Roses)
Rock You Like a Hurricane (Scorpions)
Livin' On a Prayer (Bon Jovi)
Dr Feelgood (Motley Crue)

Re:My Selection (1)

bloodstar (866306) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071325)

On the Punk Side:
Why Not DK?
or Toss in Some Misfits/Samhain (Die Die My darling or London Dungeon)

Goth/Punk:
The Damned
The Cure (Early Cure was closer to Punk than anything else)

Good Ole Rock:
The Who
Pink Floyd
Prince

Other:
Ministry
Killing Joke
Faith No More

Really, There are a ton of good artists from the 80s... but will people find the gems? I can handle GH if it's 50 percent pop songs from hell, but I do want a variety of songs and genres to enjoy.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

Skreems (598317) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070829)

Queen's stuff from the 70s was better, though... they need to put Liar in GH. Good lord, would that be awesome.

Re:Not Even Dio (1)

Lord_Ultimate (1049752) | more than 6 years ago | (#19072229)

Runaway would be a better choice for a Bon Jovi song

I've seen a few of these artists in other posts, but I don't remember which ones.
Pat Benetar
Blondie
Gogos
Bangles
AC/DC
Whitesnake
Billy Idol
Bryan Adams
Don Henley - Boys of Summer (the Atari's remix could be used as well)
Genesis/Phil Collins - pick a better song that Tonight, Tonight, Tonight, that song blows
Chicago, although I have no idea which song I would pick
Def Leppard
Sting/The Police
Wang Chung
The Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star - sure it came out in '79, but it's still an 80's song.

Re:Not Even Dio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19070603)

Your opinion must be the one true opinion.

Idiot.

Frets on Fire (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19068817)

You could drop hundreds on a Playstation, guitar controller, and songs, or just get Frets on Fire and play the 600+ songs for it from TPB.

New songs at http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3671314/Frets_on_Fire_ Song_Pack__3_(311_songs) [thepiratebay.org]

Re:Frets on Fire (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19069673)

That would work, except for one small fact:

FOF SUCKS

Have a nice day.

Re:Frets on Fire (1)

toolie (22684) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070073)

Of course, stealing stuff for a crappy attempt at a game rather than legally buying (licensing?) it for a decent game always makes sense.

Frets on Fire! (2, Informative)

Nosklo (815041) | more than 6 years ago | (#19068955)

I am just waiting for someone to convert them into Frets on Fire [sourceforge.net] format and post somewhere. If you know any links (torrent or not) please share!!

Re:Frets on Fire! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19070011)

That game has a long, long way to go to be playable.

Re:Frets on Fire! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19071721)

That game has a long, long way to go to be playable.
Actually, the game is easily playable - but only after applying RF Mod, a mod fixing many memory leaks and adding features.
Surprisingly for an open source game, these mods haven't been incorporated into the main project yet...

Latest version of RF Mod (I think...)
http://www.fretsonfire.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?a ct=ST;f=11;t=4721 [fretsonfire.net]
If you're going to use it, read the readme -- it requires a specific version of the main game to work atm...

Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

WMD_88 (843388) | more than 6 years ago | (#19068985)

Rock music (especially the "hair metal" that near-defines the decade) sucked in the 80s. Why would you make an entire game of those kinds of tracks? Especially given how diverse the playlists are in the regular GH games.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

Sciros (986030) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069431)

You're joking, right? Journey and Def Leppard sound familiar? How about Van Halen :-) The 80s had some AWESOME rock, at least if you like rock. And I'd think that folks who buy Guitar Hero should at least like the *good* 80s rock...

I can't say I agree with Guitar Hero's selections, but then again I hate Guitar Hero anyway. I'd much rather rock out on my Ibanez than that thing that comes with the game. It seriously reminds me of a toddler toy :-/

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

Auz (50055) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069695)

May I direct your attention this way [cad-comic.com]?

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

Sciros (986030) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069755)

Thanks for reminding me why I never read the PA wannabe that is Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

pinchhazard (728983) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070009)

Thanks for reminding me that Penny Arcade is terrible and CAD is not really on my radar.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19070153)

Thanks for reminding me why I never read the PA wannabe that is Ctrl-Alt-Del.

I think you're mistaken. Penny Arcade has a wide layout with typically three panels. Ctrl-Alt-Del has a more square layout with typically four panels. They are completely different.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

iron-kurton (891451) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071095)

The 80s had awesome metal. Pop Rock sucked in the 80s. Def Leppard and Journey are probably not the best examples to defend 80s rock. Van Halen is maybe the only good "rock" band out of the 80s, but only because Eddie revolutionized tapping. Oh yeah, I thought of another - Aerosmith is definitely decent.

But then look at metal bands: Rush (which paved the way for Dream Theater), Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica (shudder), Motorhead, and even Priest.

Anyhow, the real point of all this is that the only reason some of us like Guitar Hero is because some of the much harder songs (like Hangar 18 or YYZ) are damn near impossible to play on a real guitar. So instead of pretending like I'm a guitar virtuoso thinking I'm Steve Vai while my neighbors think I'm Kurt Cobain or that I left my guitar on while my cat is jumping up and down on it, I'd rather pretend and, hell, even have some fun with my wife because now we can BOTH mess around with it. And yes, I did just equate Kurt Cobain to a cat on the guitar -- he was a great songwriter, just not the greatest guitar player in the world.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

Sciros (986030) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071541)

Heh I like all those bands :-P

Thanks for mentioning Steve Vai, that man is amazing. Though my all-time fav is probably still Malmsteen.

I can see Guitar Hero's appeal in some ways, but I just can't play a music game of that sort without wanting to turn it off and go jam on an actual guitar or play around on a keyboard. But that's just me. Just like if there were a similar dancing game (DDR isn't really, not that I like it...) I'd want to just go out and dance for real instead.

Now, luckily that doesn't carry over when it comes to fighting games. Or FPSs for that matter, hahah. Those I'm just fine with in their "virtual" incarnations ^_^

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071655)

It's all about Dream Theater, man. I'm hoping I can get some Metropolis action in the next guitar hero game. It's just shameful they haven't had any Petrucci-rippin' tunes in the series up until now. If it did, I'd probably actually buy the game. YYXs a good start, though.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

TheBishop613 (454798) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069581)

Why bother? It may have sucked, but it was popular! I suspect there are a ton of us who were teens in the 80s who will eat this stuff up. Sure looking back now a lot of the music had a pretty low level of artistic merit, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to hit the nostalgia strings of a pretty huge audience. I do think they'd be better off focusing on the Rock/Metal scene of the 80s which was more guitar focused than the New Wave scene which had a big synth/keyboard influence but I liked a little bit of everything from that time period.

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

soulprivate (1011963) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069811)

Not *everything* sucked. What about old *real* rockers, like Judas Priest? KK Downing and Glenn Tipton are guitars KINGS, and would have all the pretty-hair "rockers" for breakfast. What about early Maiden? AC/DC? Van Halen?

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

WMD_88 (843388) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070405)

What about old *real* rockers, like Judas Priest? KK Downing and Glenn Tipton are guitars KINGS, and would have all the pretty-hair "rockers" for breakfast.

Oh, indeed. Thing is, I don't see them on the list. ;) Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll be among the ones not known to the public yet.
And yes, early Iron Maiden and AC/DC were good too. :) But they haven't shown up for this game either (and I figure that the announcement would list off the biggest names in the playlist).

Re:Why bother? Lacks diversity (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070467)

I'm thinking the same thing. There are some notable exceptions like van halen and some metal bands, but I wouldnt pay much for this. This would make a nice free (or very cheap) expansion disk or downloadable xbox live content. As another 60 dollar game just, meh. They can add a few token 80s songs to GH III and be done with it.

My band is better than your band (1)

Otis2222222 (581406) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071951)

I love these discussions. Apparently it's just not cool to like some bands (if only we could all agree on which ones weren't cool), and god forbid you actually enjoy playing a video game instead of a real guitar. Also, don't fret guys - they are just publishing a "teaser" list and I'd say everyone should save the REAL bitching until the final list is out.

Meh. (1)

AceCaseOR (594637) | more than 6 years ago | (#19068991)

I don't really recall any shredding Guitar Solos in most of those songs, except for maybe "I Wanna Rock". Now, if "Take It On The Run" by REO Speedwagon was on the list, I'd so be there.

*cough* (1)

evwah (954864) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069013)

do I need to mention the lack of dire straights on the list??

Re:*cough* (1)

Dr. Smoove (1099425) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069311)

Right? Where is the sultans of swing, one of the greatest guitar solos ever. And one of the only 80s hits that comes to mind that didn't suck shit through a straw.

Re:*cough* (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069949)

Where is the sultans of swing, one of the greatest guitar solos ever. And one of the only 80s hits that comes to mind that didn't suck shit through a straw.
Sultans of Swing originally came out in 1978.

Re:*cough* (1)

bitrot42 (523887) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069785)


Actually, Sultans of Swing was released in 1978.

Still, it would rock to have this, and some other (better) guitar work to play with.

Money for Nothing (1)

edawstwin (242027) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071501)

Money for Nothing would be outstanding. One of the great 80s rock songs, with an excellent guitar riff. Makes me think of the (now cheesy) video. Who wouldn't want to play that on Guitar Hero?

Re:Money for Nothing (1)

MS-06FZ (832329) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071665)

Money for Nothing would be outstanding. One of the great 80s rock songs, with an excellent guitar riff. Makes me think of the (now cheesy) video. Who wouldn't want to play that on Guitar Hero?
That video was always cheesy. Cheesiness isn't measured on an inverse relative scale of technical merit, it's based on effect...

'Would be cool to have that big dude from the video as an unlockable character, though, for sure - all 20 polygons of him.

Real Guitar (3, Interesting)

ptelligence (685287) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069377)

It would be cool if there were a cheap analog to digital converter that you could plug into your console and play the notes on an actual electric guitar. Of course you'd have to tune it first, and start out simple. But the software could recognize tones and keep score based on your accuracy. Could also pipe your own sound through the system so you could hear yourself play. I already own a bass, so I think something like this would be pretty cool.

Re:Real Guitar (2, Interesting)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070733)

I've seen something similar for the pc. Don't know if I could find it via google. it would increase the difficulty level 100%, but it would finally remove my objection to the game.

Re:Real Guitar (1)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 6 years ago | (#19073391)

Actually, especially on Amazing difficulty, some songs are actually quite a bit easier to play on an actual guitar. The fretting patterns are just more natural.

Re:Real Guitar (2, Insightful)

DemiKnute (237008) | more than 6 years ago | (#19073493)

Do you object to baseball games because you don't use a baseball bat to play? Will you only play play Wii Sports when they come out with a baseball bat cover for the remote?

Do you object to racing games because the steering wheel is smaller than in real life?

Do you object to FPS's because you're playing with a mouse and not a real gun?

It's a game, dude. An analogue to real life. The controller is an analogue as well. If you want to play real guitar, play real guitar. If you want to have fun pretending to play a guitar, without the years of practice and bleeding fingers, play Guitar Hero, because even with a real guitar, it's still going to be completely unrealistic (does your guitar make those crazy noises when you screw up the beat?).

Re:Real Guitar (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070911)

This device would seem to be amazingly simple. Tuning would have to happen on the device, which would probably wind up being an amp-like box with a game controller cord coming out of it. You'd map the sound waves to electrical signals and go.

You could even feed the console's audio (and for ease of cabling, video, even though you'd just be coupling it) through the amp-like box and add your sound to the output.

The biggest problem, that I can see. Is that the game is expecting input that's not all that similar at all to the strumming of strings. Especially at the easier levels, the press of a single key might represent several picks at the strings. And a finger-ripping solo gets reduced to a back-and-forth series of button presses. The device would have to compensate. That would be the hard part, for sure.

Unless, I guess you were to somehow reverse engineer what they did to put the song in that format in the first place. Then you'd probably be pretty close.

Re:Real Guitar (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 6 years ago | (#19072885)

Why not just convert a digital tuner to report on the notes played to the console via USB? You could use another of the info lines to carry a digitally converted sound. The game would listen to you play or just play what you play. I don't play guitar and I suck at GH, but I have friends who have some pretty nice tuners that seem like they can easily handle this.

Re:Real Guitar (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 6 years ago | (#19073105)

Yeah, but if you sent it via USB, wouldn't you need to make the game accept that input? I'm assuming that the game only takes input via controller port...

Re:Real Guitar (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 6 years ago | (#19073487)

I was under the impression that all game systems the the Guitar Hero series appears on has USB input (even the original XBox uses modified USB for its controller ports).

Re:Real Guitar (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 6 years ago | (#19073597)

Xbox360 would, that's true. Not sure about the PS2.

Re:Real Guitar (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 6 years ago | (#19074051)

The PS2 does have two USB ports on the front. Check out the wiki [wikipedia.org]. Look at the pictures.

Re:Real Guitar (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 6 years ago | (#19074121)

I know, I have one. But they're not for controllers. Just (as far as I've ever used it) accessories like the eye toy.

Holy Diver (1)

ThanatosMinor (1046978) | more than 6 years ago | (#19069415)

I guess the long intro will give people time to stand there stupidly and finish their beers before the actual song starts.

mid-late 80s=mostly bad sound (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19069663)

The problem with that period is the sound. Exactly in mid-80s digital effects became widely available and thus were heavily used (mostly abused) for at least 4-5 years before people got bored of them. There are some good tracks from that era almost completely destroyed by too much chorus and reverberation on everything, from voices to drums: you can listen the first 5 seconds of a track and guess that it was recorded between 1984 and 1988 from the sound. That's very bad.
I'd rather love a list from the late 70s-early 80s only: AC-DC, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden (with Paul di' Anno singing), Blackfoot, Ramones, Molly Hatchet, Kiss, etc.

On a side note, a "Drum Hero" for the Wii with tracks by Neil Peart and Mike Portnoy would probably decrease the obesity amount in western world by 80% or so.

Neil Peart Drum Hero Kit (1)

miller701 (525024) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070691)

He's certainly worthy, but I'd hate to see he controller, It'd have to have what, 80 pads on it?

I just wish... (1)

MarcoAtWork (28889) | more than 6 years ago | (#19070675)

they re-released GH1 with GH2's engine... would be nice to have HO/PO working in GH1 the same way...

How about Dramarama? (1)

edawstwin (242027) | more than 6 years ago | (#19071831)

We all knew there would be hair bands (and I'm pleasantly surprised to see "I Ran"), but how about bands like Dramarama, The Replacements, The Smiths? They're probably not known for blistering solos, but certainly for playable riffs and generally good songs. "Anything Anything" by Dramarama is the epitome of a great one-hit wonder (I know they had other songs, but nothing as big as this). Gary's Got A Boner or Bastards of Young by The Replacements would also be good choices. Johnny Marr is an excellent guitarist. Surely one of his songs with The Smiths could be featured.

Oh, one other hair band that I haven't seen mentioned yet - Tesla. Heaven's Trail(No Way Out), Little Suzi, or Modern Day Cowboy would all be fun to play.

South Park! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19072979)

Heat of the Moment? I hope they use Cartman's version!!

the 80's sucked for guitar? (1)

Watersharer (209011) | more than 6 years ago | (#19074777)

are you kidding me? The 80's was a seminal decade for guitar. GIT anyone? Didnt anyone here have a Lita Ford poster?

Eric Johnson - Tones
Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien
Stevie Ray Vaughn - nuff said.

And as for hair bands sucking, yes there were a few that were obscene and ridiculed...funny how some of them are considered the 'classics' now...Twisted Sister? AYFKM? Quiet Riot I could at least understand because Randy played with them for a while... What about Dokken, or Crue? Paul Gilbert and RacerX? Yngwie? Dire Straits? Holy crap the list goes on of killer guitar from the 80's...even The Smiths as someone else pointed out...

Seems to me some of these posters are actually quite clueless when it comes to 80'S guitar rock. Or are you really that impressed by 3 chord wonders like Nirvana and Pearl Jam?
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