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Gates and Jobs to Share A Stage

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the no-not-celebrity-death-match dept.

Microsoft 210

Rob wrote with a link to a Computer Business Review online article, which reports that Microsoft chairman Bill Gates and Apple chief Steve Jobs will make a joint appearance at a future technologies conference in Carlsbad, California. The event is expected to last a little more than an hour, and the two computer industry magnates are expected to reflect on their pasts - while theorizing on the future. "[WSJ Tech columnist] Walt Mossberg, a co-producer of the conference who will interview the execs on-stage along with colleague Kara Swisher, said they simply invited Gates and Jobs to do the interview ... [Mossberg] declined to give any color about the questions he and Swisher are preparing, or any additional information. Most likely, Gates and Jobs will use the occasion to do some friendly sparring on their polar-opposite philosophies on personal computing. Jobs may bang on about the benefits of a software-hardware approach, while Gates may rattle off the joys of partnering with hardware partners."

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heroes (5, Funny)

I_am_mccool (961083) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268539)

I have this vision of the future Heroes episode where Peter and Syler have a showdown. Glowing hands and all.

Re:heroes (OT) (2, Insightful)

houston_pt (514463) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268569)

Best. Episode. Ever.

Re:heroes (OT) (2, Funny)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268679)

Actually, my vision was of Stewie and Olivia fighting over who was on-key in that Family Guy episode [tv.com] . ^_^

Re:heroes (OT) (5, Funny)

shadow349 (1034412) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268817)

I envision it starting like this:

Jobs: I'm a Mac
Gates: ...and I'm a PC

Re:heroes (OT) (-1, Redundant)

DogDude (805747) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269623)

Can anybody explain why this is "+5 Funny"?

Re:heroes (OT) (1)

Naatan (1004158) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269233)

Ok totally off topic but; Amen.. xD

Re:heroes (OT) (1)

flight_master (867426) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269409)

I believe that was "How to Stop an Exploding Man". Would be nice to see wether Mr. Jobs, or Mr. Gates explodes :D

Re:heroes (1)

n2dasun (467303) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268813)

Glowing hands?

"Who's the masta? Sho-Nuff!!!"

"Catches bullets with his TEETH? N**** please!"

Re:heroes (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268875)

ok, lets not bring Sony into this.

Man and PC (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268847)

Wow.

I hope Jobs introduces himself as Mac and Gates introduces himself as PC.

"Hi, I'm Mac.. and I'm PC"

That would be great!

Jared Farnum

Re:heroes (1, Funny)

Marwood (697026) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268909)

IPHONE, BITCH! [current.tv]

Perfect timing! (1)

Non-CleverNickName (1027234) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268549)

Does anybody else think this would be the perfect time to bring back those American Gladiators challenges??

Picture Jobs and Gates onstage in full padding, trying to knock each other off with those giant rubber q-tips!

Re:Perfect timing! (2, Funny)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268705)


I wager 30 quatloos on the newcomer.

"their polar-opposite philosophies"? (4, Funny)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268729)

Gates: We want you to be locked in to proprietary Microsoft products
Jobs: We want you to be locked in to proprietary Apple products

Would that be east-west poles, 'cause they seem pretty close together...

Re:"their polar-opposite philosophies"? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269263)

More like... Jobs: Hi I'm a Mac. Gates: and I'm a PC.

Re:"their polar-opposite philosophies"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269299)

Would that be east-west poles, 'cause they seem pretty close together... - Yep, Germany is on the West side, Ukraine and Belarus on the East. It also borders with Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Russia and has a maritime border with Denmark and Sweden, but who remembers those useless facts? You are right though, mostly Poles go East to West and West to East, many of them are bipolar.

Re:Perfect timing! (1)

BosstonesOwn (794949) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268781)

This is quite obviously a assisination attempt of Jobs.

Ballmer will jump out ninja style and keep slinging chairs at jobs until one comes out victorious. Long live Ninja Steve !

Re:Perfect timing! (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269359)

I'm thinking maybe Jobs and Gates will pit their best warriors against each other for control over their empires. Gates will bring forth Balmer, clad in leather and wielding a chair. But Jobs will have the ace in the hole with some programmer that has been iGenetically enhanced. Chairs will fly, iPods will be used as ninja stars, but ultimately we know that Mr. Rogers [ultimateshowdown.org] will take all.

While drinking water.... (4, Funny)

Himring (646324) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268561)

"Jobs -- while Gates drinks a glass of water -- may bang on about the benefits of a software-hardware approach."

Pfffft!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268631)

My kingdom for a mod point! Bwahahaha!!

Re:Pfffft!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268699)

My kingdom for a clue. I don't get it. Could someone explain/link info on the reference to me?

Re:Pfffft!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269269)

Market share percentage as it relates to time taken on stage would be my bet.

I thought it was funny.

Re:Pfffft!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269699)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventriloquism [wikipedia.org]

See also here [wikipedia.org] for specific reference.

Re:Pfffft!!! (1)

ideonode (163753) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269641)

I thought it was the fact that Jobs is Gates' ventriloquist dummy, hence the reference to drinking water.

Notecards (0, Offtopic)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268565)

Well, if Bill doesn't use notecards then he won't be the worst person to ever share the stage with Steve.

Ob (1, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268587)

Hope they don't talk about computers [youtube.com]

where's Linus? (4, Insightful)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268593)

Seems like a scheme to reiterate the idea that people can only choose between Mac and Windows. They are completely ignoring another big player.

Re:where's Linus? (2, Funny)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268647)

He couldn't make it, so they decided to put a cage of these little guys [wikipedia.org] up there instead for cute-factor.

That, and it'll be the only way to get any noise up there that isn't marketing rhetoric.

Re:where's Linus? (4, Insightful)

cronot (530669) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268793)

Even if Linus was invited to attend, I don't think he would accept it. And if he'd accept, he's still not a business guy anyway, so he wouldn't fit on the conversation - he'd just babble "I don't care" at most stuff. He doesn't have the proper composture to behave in a way the target audience would expect in such an ocasion.

Re:where's Linus? (2, Insightful)

Atheose (932144) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268835)

They are ignoring another big player


And I suppose you think Luxembourg is a world superpower?

I think the word "big" above is rather generous.

Re:where's Linus? (1)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268901)

Maybe s/he comparing it to minix or hurd...?

Does Linus have that much power? (1)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268873)

Perhaps a lot of the problem is that Linus doesn't have as much authority over Linux as Gates and Jobs do over their companies' platforms. Linus may play gatekeeper with the official Linux kernel, but he hardly has any power at places like Red Hat, Novell or IBM where many important decisions about getting Linux out there are made. It would make about as much sense to have Miguel De Icaza join in because of his standing with GNOME development.

Re:Does Linus have that much power? (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269147)

Seems to me like it's more of a spokesperson X talks about the future/past. Linus is the most prevalent name as a spokesperson for Gnu/Linux operating systems. OSS is really interesting and people may very well like to understand what Linus does better. For instance he does have complete control over Linux (the kernel), but has little to no influence over the actual distributions. At the end of the day I think the stories of these three software giants are full of dramatic flare (as far as business stories go) and that's what people want to hear about, this makes Linux's story all the more relevant, especially because it seems like they just want a prediction of where these stories will be heading in the next 5-10yrs.

Not Linus - Stallman! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268881)

Three-way cage fight!

Of those three, Stallman is the only one that cares about anyone but himself.

Not Stallman - Shuttleworth! (2, Interesting)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269089)

Of those three, Stallman is the only one that cares about anyone but himself.

Every time rms opens his mouth, he hurts the Free/Open Source Software (I don't care if he doesn't like the term) movement.

Mark Shuttleworth, please.

Re:where's Linus? (5, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268899)

While you have a bit of a point, I don't think Linus is the right choice. I don't want to downplay his contribution or anything, but he's more of a programmer and more specifically a kernel hacker. Jobs and Gates are the businessmen who run the companies and oversee the product vision.

So Linus, the head Mac kernel guy, and the head Vista kernel guy might be interesting. Shuttleworth might be a better guy to line up with Jobs and Gates.

Re:where's Linus? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268905)

Neither Apple nor Linux is really a big player. I have never seen Linux's desktop user base go much beyond 1%, which makes Apple's 3-5% look big. The server space is a different story, but I expect that this discussion is really about personal devices, not computing in general.

However, Microsoft and Apple are influential, I'm struggling to figure out Linux's level of influence in determining the direction of personal computers and personal electronic devices.

Re:where's Jonathan Schwarz (1)

clacke (214199) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268983)

Linux is not important, IBM is the big player moving Linux now. But is there a famous face to associate with this golem? I don't know the name of their CEO, I don't know how he looks, and I'm not even sure he knows what they are doing on the Linux front. Some third-level R&D boss, maybe?

Shuttleworth (1)

Sweetshark (696449) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269137)

But is there a famous face to associate with this golem? I don't know the name of their CEO, I don't know how he looks, and I'm not even sure he knows what they are doing on the Linux front. Some third-level R&D boss, maybe?
Neither Sun nor IBM are really important for the desktop. But an earlier post is right: Bring in Mark Shuttleworth.

Re:where's Linus? (1)

Redacted (1101591) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269031)

Its a debate/discussion about future technologies between two billionaires - one who built the first personal computers, and one who made them the commodity they are today; both have companies with market caps in the tens of billions of dollars. One controls personal computing, the other (pretty much) digital music and much of the professional graphics/audio market.

Whether people want to admit it or not, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, as individuals, have a hell of a lot more influence of the future of technology (in a lot of fields) than Linus will most likely ever have.

Re:where's Linus? (2, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269719)

Linus nah get RMS. He'll make sure that if you were thinking about switching to Linux you wouldn't.

while I wouldn't call it a confrontation of... (0, Redundant)

jimstapleton (999106) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268595)

powerful good and evil, maybe powerful neutral and evil (you pick which is which).

Wonder if anyone is taking bets on the victor?

Re:while I wouldn't call it a confrontation of... (5, Funny)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268689)

M$ = Lawful Evil (we can do what we want, our lawyers will make it legal)
Mac = Neutral Evil (we're evil, if we break the law our lawyers will get us out)
M$ = 20th level necromancer
special attack = Summon Zombie pc
Mac = 20th level enchanter
special attack = Charm people into thinking a Mac will make them cool

Re:while I wouldn't call it a confrontation of... (1)

Creepy (93888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269319)

wow, who woulda thunk a Chaotic Evil Manager [theonion.com] could run a Lawful evil company. That IS evil. I suppose he's got 13 levels on them and with that 20 charisma can dupe pretty much anyone.

Re:while I wouldn't call it a confrontation of... (3, Funny)

harry666t (1062422) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269565)

GM: M$, you go first.
M$: Trying to summon a lawyer.
GM: 1d20+43 = 63, you summoned bloodsucker bastard lawyer from ninth circle of hell. Your turn, Apple.
Apple: Trying to cast "Control minds of iPod users with vision of drm-free music"
GM: 1d20+16 = 17, forty thousand iPod users are under your command, Steve. M$?
M$: We try to sue Linux users for using software infrigning our patents.
GM: 1d20 - 16 = -4, and you do not own any useful patents. Apple?
Apple: We tell our customers that higher bitrate is worthy 30c.
GM: 1d20+27 = 41, forty one thousand users now believe you. Minus the forty thousands that were hypnotised, they've lost their mind and thus cannot reason.
Some Random Geek: But where are the Linux users?
Some Random Computer User: WTF is Linux?
GM: Some Random Computer User does not know Linux. Sorry, Some Random Geek.
Some Random Geek: But there is Ubuntu...
Dell: ...although computers with Ubuntu cost the same as Windows machines...
Some Random Crapware Company: ...no, they're actually more expensive, since they're not bloated with our crap...
Another Random Geek: It was supposed to be a fight between M$ and Apple.
Some Random Geek: Mod parent +5 insightful!
Another Random Crapware Company: This is not crap!
Dell: Let's have a deal with M$...
M$: OK, like the one with Novell?
Novell: We only want SuSE to be more compatible with M$!
Another Random Geek: You betrayed us, Novell!
Some Random Geek: Mod parent +5 insightful!
Some random /. mod: *goes to preferences, unchecks "willing to mod"*
Apple: Leopard will be delayed.
Another Random Geek: Damn it! I knew that Apple is going to forget about Macs when it dropped "Computers" from its name...
Some Random Geek: Mod parent +5 insightful!
Another Random Geek: Mod parent -1 redundant...
GM: SHUT UP EVERYONE! Time's out, it's been an hour.

I saw them at a party last week (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268641)


Bill and Steve have always been good friends, i saw them at a party i was at last week and they where getting along great
see the video for proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwy4R8DfOT4 [youtube.com]

It's a special event. (3, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268645)

When they get on stage, the lights will drop, strobes start going off, and as chain link fences lower from the ceiling, the techno music starts and the announcer screams, TECHNOLOGY CAGE MATCH!!!!!!!

Re:It's a special event. (0)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268789)

And Ballmer of course will jump in from the front row with his favorite wrestling weapon, the chair! It's ok though, Jobs may get some help if Linus shows up and reveals the hidden alliance between Mac and Open Source Software. That'll work until Gates and Ballmer are decommissioned, then RMS shows up and smacks Jobs on the back of the head with his guitar Linus unconscious from the brawl with the M$ brothers will not be able to prove his stance on RMS's actions until.... TECHNOLOGY CAGE MATCH 2!!

Re:It's a special event. (1)

Prof.Phreak (584152) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269415)

Strangely, last time the two were on stage, it didn't end well for Jobs... was the beginning of the end in those days for Apple... is history repeating itself?

Open letter (5, Funny)

styryx (952942) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268657)

Dear Mr Jobs,

Please could you ask Bill to bring along 235 software patents or shut up.

Sincerely, everybody.

what will they do on stage? magic! (0, Redundant)

bazorg (911295) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268675)

Jobs will step into a wooden box leaving his head and feet out. Gates will use a chainsaw to cut the box in half. there will be a fatal error.

Wouldn't you just love.... (1)

raluxs (961449) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268723)


That Jobs enter the stage with a cream pie in his hands?

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Yep, no .sig, so what?

Re:what will they do on stage? magic! (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268829)

BSOD - Blue Stage Of Death?

This Kiss (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268683)

It would be funny if they kissed like one of those wacky MTV movie awards shows.

Re:This Kiss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19268939)

Reminds me of the Ali G episode where he makes peace between North and South Korea.

Looks interesting. (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268701)

Though I won't go see it, I look forward to the dance remixes.

two things i want to see: (4, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268703)

1. a spoof of those pc guy/ mac guy ads with jobs and gates in the appropriate roles. it will never happen, but still

2. an icon for jobs on slashdot. gates has his borg visor one. why not jobs with an ipod?

Re:two things i want to see: (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269111)

>>1. a spoof of those pc guy/ mac guy ads with jobs and gates in the appropriate roles. it will never happen, but still

I doubt it. Those commercials are partially an ego trip for Jobs, saying "see, *I* am cooler than Bill" just as much as Mac is cooler than PC. I don't see why Bill would give him the satisfaction of playing it out in real life.

Of course, I could see Jobs jumping out and saying "Hi, he's a PC and I'm a Mac"

Re:two things i want to see: (1)

root_42 (103434) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269195)

2. an icon for jobs on slashdot. gates has his borg visor one. why not jobs with an ipod

Or an iGasm? *ducks*

Jobs with iPod icon (1)

Nymz (905908) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269257)

an icon for jobs on slashdot. gates has his borg visor one. why not jobs with an ipod?

The Gate-as-Borg icon is typical /. humor, so would Jobs-with-iPod [extraneo.it] meet /. standards?

Why'd I think... (3, Funny)

trudyscousin (258684) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268715)

...when I first glanced at it, that the article headline said, "Gates and Jobs to Share A Grudge?"

2 CEOs enter... (4, Funny)

techmuse (160085) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268757)

2 CEOs enter...

One CEO leaves.

Better than the alternative... (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269379)

Two CEOs enter...

Three CEOs leave!

Re:2 CEOs enter... (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269539)

I wasn't aware that Billy Borg really had assimilation powers...

Trying to care... (0, Redundant)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268759)

Given that I run neither MSFT nor apple products [aside from an ipod which has never seen itunes that was bought for me as a gift] I don't care what "vision" these two can come up with. The fact that they're talking like this at all suggests they're scared about "the other choice." Let's not forget it wasn't long ago that MSFT basically ripped off apple [who rippled off PARC] and they all got mad up in each others face about it.

Tom

Re:Trying to care... (4, Informative)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268841)

Let's not forget it wasn't long ago that MSFT basically ripped off apple [who rippled off PARC]

If Woz's explanation is correct, no one did any "ripping off" in this case. Apple paid for the rights to various parts of GUI from Xerox, and Microsoft traded rights to Apple II Basic in exchange for the GUI rights to make Windows.

Re:Trying to care... (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269017)

Even if you don't use either company's products, you still might care on the basis that each company is influential, powerful, and trying to compete with the product of your choice. Sometimes it's good to know your enemies.

Re:Trying to care... (0)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269267)

Life's too short to try and follow the low S/N that is corporate software shops. If either side came up with something I found useful [that I couldn't get elsewhere] I'd already be looking for it or know about it.

For example, MSFT says that Vista is a whole new OS [lie] that gives consumers new ways to use their PC [also a lie] and opens up a world of multimedia never before possible [another lie]. They say that the UAC will bring security to the desktop [lie], and that signed drivers protect users [another lie]. Balmer often says he wants developers [lie], etc.

Then you look at the mac. They claim to be hip, but in reality they're just an overpriced gimmick. They claim that multimedia shines on the mac [lie, hint: this isn't 1991, multimedia PCs are just as good, and look at the recent laptop screen fiasco], they claim that their software is basically the only way to organize photos, music and videos [lie], that macs are more "fun" than PCs [lie], etc.

To be honest I just don't see what all the hoopla is about. A custom built or Dell [style] computer is just as good as an expensive apple laptop. Why would I buy a macbook over a cheaper laptop and just install a linux distro myself? Why would I buy a loaded down Vista box when a high quality custom box is the same cost or cheaper and can be loaded with whatever OS distro I want.

They may be big companies but they're totally out of the realm of what I care about in computing. They're not making products [or pricing them] according to the way I [and frankly many of my friends] see the market.

Tom

Re:Trying to care... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269049)

What??!! Really?? Teh GUI is teh ripoff?

Seriously. Let it go. It's no longer a valid arguing point.

Re:Trying to care... (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269163)

My point was that these are not the most friendly of pairings. Apple does try to promote and sell the Apple brand of software let's not forget. They each have minor incursions into each others territory mostly as a way to drive up sales [re: ipod, office] but also lure people to the other camp.

If they're doing the song and dance on stage together again it's because they're trying to divide the market again between OSS and non-OSS camps.

Tom

Re:Trying to care... (1)

itchy92 (533370) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269459)

The fact that they're talking like this at all suggests they're scared about "the other choice."

This is so stupid. Perhaps the fact that they're talking like this suggests that they are the current "market leaders" in technology standards (Windows for the OS, iPod for digital media). Besides, as TFA states a whopping paragraph in, they didn't organize this; they were both invited to speak at this third-party conference. Neither one is scared of anything. If Apple or Linux encroach more than 15% of the OS market, Microsoft may start to notice; if the Zune encroaches more than 10% (*snicker*) of the media player market, Apple may start to notice. And if Linux takes over 15% of the embedded market, both may start to notice. Until then, I suspect that neither company is really scared of much.

I personally think Linux is great... for what it is. But I am not convinced that it will ever be seen as a real contender unless it makes some drastic changes to its very model; changes that would essentially destroy the appeal of F/OSS. And statements like "they're scared about the 'other choice' just sound absolutely ridiculous to me, especially in the context of this article.

Oblig. (4, Funny)

vivaoporto (1064484) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268765)

Walt Mossberg: Bill Gates, what about a shared interview with Steve Jobs?
Billg: Sharing a stage with Steve Jobs? That's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard since I've been at Microsoft.

Not what they say... (3, Interesting)

paintswithcolour (929954) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268799)

What will be interesting is how they come across, Gates has always struck me as lacking heavily in charisma; which just happens to be Jobs strong point. In fact, I'm suprised that Microsoft shuffle Gates out quite so much, apart from being a very notable computing figure he never seems to be a good promoter of tech.; partly because he brings out resentment in many people and partly because he sums up the typical mainstream concept of 'Geekness' and all the ideas of inaccessability that conjures up...

Jobs on the other hand is gives off (regardless of if it is true or not) a degree of approachability and dramatic flair (but, some would argue, at a hinderence of reality and pesky fact).

So I'm not going to be too interested in what they say, but how they say, and most interestingly of all how they play it against each other. Although I can't shake the feeling that they will be slapping each other on the back....

Re:Not what they say... (2, Funny)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269489)

Jobs on the other hand is gives off (regardless of if it is true or not) a degree of approachability and dramatic flair (but, some would argue, at a hinderence of reality and pesky fact).

Jobs does not hinder reality.

He merely... distorts it.

Imagine (0, Troll)

Shelbspeaks (1103745) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268825)

This would be an awesome conference to attend! I'd love to get the heads up on the future of technology. Curious? Check out Christopher Ruddy [annonline.com]

Re:Imagine (1)

Goffee71 (628501) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268929)

I hope there's sarcasm buried in there... these two can evangelise and hypothesise all they like at their own events but put on the stand all they'll do is spout the PR fluff about their respective corners - stuff we've all heard before.

Who else is going to be there? (1)

Kurrurrin (790594) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268891)

Because I'm more interested as to who will be on the B stage.

(not so obvious?)

It'll be like this: (2, Funny)

d3m0nCr4t (869332) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268903)

Jobs: Hi, I'm a Mac. Gates: And I'm a PC.

Re:It'll be like this: (2, Funny)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269401)

It would be funnier if they were reversed, Bill dressed up as Mac/Jobs and Jobs dressed as PC/Gates. Bill could say something like "Hi, I am a Mac, the 3rd most expensive purchase you will ever make". And Jobs could say "Hi, I am PC. Far from cool, but I do follow lemmings off cliffs". And so on and so on...

I can almost... (1)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268917)

...imagine what they would talk about [myextralife.com] already!

Ohhhh... Mudslinging or mudwrestling? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268927)

Either way, it's gonna be entertaining!

Because it's Friday..... (1)

bryan1945 (301828) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268957)

Real wrath-of-God type stuff
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

Have a nice day!

Thank goodness it wasn't Ballmer (4, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#19268979)

I'm sure Apple technicians breathed a sigh of relief when they found it was going to be Gates instead of Ballmer. An anti-pie personal forcefield is much easier to build than an anti-chair personal forcefield. :P

Re:Thank goodness it wasn't Ballmer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269581)

That doesn't make sense. Do you mean to say that Gates throws pies at people? Jobs is safe with Gates no matter what, even if we are talking bullets here. Jobs is still safe because Gates would not be shooting the bullets, someone else would be shooting him. Contrast that to Ballmer, who did not have chairs thrown at him but instead throws the chairs at people. Even then, Jobs may still be safe because he doesn't work for Google.

Too bad Steve doesn't seem to care about hardware (2, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269009)

anymore. The macbook was updated after 6 months without a product refresh(I don't consider adding an 8 core option to an otherwised unchanged mac pro a refresh, you could do that aftermarket before anyhow). And the previously updated model was the macbook as well. The mac mini is a joke, hasn't seen a real update in over a year, and there are rumors of its demise. The iMac, macbook pros, and mac pros are no longer price competitive with other manufacturers like they were when they first came out. I don't mind paying a little bit more, but this is just stupid. It just seems to me that Apple no longer cares about computers, they want to peddle ipods, overpriced phones, and crappy media center pc replacements. If Apple doesn't majorly ramp up its lines by WWDC, my powerbook G4 will be the last mac I own. I don't want to sit around and wait until Steve Jobs considers computers are important enought to start making good ones again.

Is it safe? (3, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269035)

Bringing matter and antimatter so close together? What if they annihilate each other in a giant explosion?

Left out... (2, Funny)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269053)

I'm surprised nobody's excited about the part where Bill Gates walks towards a table of Apple gear and Steve Jobs stops him, yelling, "You shall not pass!"

How Influential is Walter Mossberg? (2, Interesting)

mpapet (761907) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269091)

As someone that has done some DIY once-upon-a-time:

1. this would be considered a "win" for both companies. IMHO the Wall Street Journal and a mention by Walt Mossberg is the pinnacle of PR success. Literally, it doesn't get much higher than that in the U.S. anyway.

2. This is a perfect example of the power of the media. Bitter rivals? Not if Walt Mossberg asks you to come to his event.

3. Walt's not going to do anything to ruffle any feathers. Considering the audience, this will most likely be a snoozer for most ./'ers.

4. Linus _should_ be in Walt's media contacts list. Does Linus pay an _insane_ amount of money to PR hacks who bribe their way into Walt's assistant's office? That's kind of a pre-requisite.

Ladies and Gentlemen (1)

Scoldog (875927) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269129)

Lllllleeeeeetttttt'sss get ready to RUUUU-MMMMMBBBBBBBLLLLLLEEEEEE!!!!!
 
*DING-DING*

Mac and PC (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19269167)

Wow.

I hope Jobs introduces himself as Mac and Gates introduces himself as PC.

"Hi, I'm Mac.. and I'm PC"

That would be great!

Jared F

Interesting, but (1)

Centurix (249778) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269345)

This would be more interesting as the two Steve's, Ballmer and Wozniak. More chair throwing involved, sweating , big bushy beards and lots of phone hacking.

Or the two Larry's, Ellison and Page. I can't imagine what would happen, but Larry Ellison always reminds me of the pencil neck EPA character from Ghostbusters, which could be funny for the first five minutes...

Gates, Jobs, and Balmer (1)

Laebshade (643478) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269365)

Can you picture the side show event for this? Ballmer is off to one side, throwing chairs...

How much is a ticket for this event again? :)

You know... (2, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269371)

...you would think that Gates and Jobs would be best buddies....

After all, who else besides them have duped and lied more than them? (outside of politics, of course)

The difference between Gates and Jobs is only this: Gates TELLS you he is fucking you in the ass, whereas Jobs just hopes you won't notice.

The more things change... (5, Interesting)

withoutfeathers (743004) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269387)

Almost 25 years ago I was working as a programmer/analyst at Aetna Life & Casualty in Hartford CT. The company brought in Gates and Jobs for a one day seminar/meet-and-greet to help decide how seriously we should take the personal/desktop computer revolution. AL&C was at the time, of course, heavily into mainframe computing and barely looking at workgroup computing (System/38) let along personal computing.

The two gentlemen were cordial, but not particularly friendly toward each other and clearly had different visions of the future of corporate computing. Now here's the punchline: The big debate between the two was over the viability of COBOL. Jobs passionately prevailed on AL&C to drop the use of COBOL altogether (money quote: "Aetna is just about the only place left in the world that still uses COBOL, everyone else has migrated to C") while Gates was just as passionately (albeit not as charismatically) espousing the virtue of moving COBOL off of mainframes and on to the desktop.

Not a word from either of them about GUI or operating systems. Jobs was all about "new programming paradigms" and Gates was all about "the craft of programming" and how the broad range of Microsoft programming languages on PCs would accomodate that model. Gates was even promoting the idea that each programmer would have a wide range of programming languages at hand, using each one as appropriate for the task at hand like tools on a workbench. Of course, at the time, Microsoft's bread and butter was programming languages.

My, how times have changed!

Share a stage? (1)

DrivingBear (931124) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269465)

I hope the amount of stage you get isn't based on PC market share or Jobs might fall off. Probably into an ocean of iPod shaped pillows.

meh. (1)

XJHardware (809439) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269519)

Let me know when Allen and Woz share a stage. THAT I might be interested in seeing.

This must have happened before (1)

simong (32944) | more than 7 years ago | (#19269545)

Ah yes, way back in 1983 [applematters.com] . Although they had a phone call [time.com] after Microsoft put some cash into Apple in 1997. I bet they go to the pub when they're both in the same town too.
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