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Linux (Car) Crashes At Indy 500

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the tux-and-rolls dept.

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thanksforthecrabs writes to let us know that the Linux-sponsored Indy 500 car had a rough day at the track this weekend: it was the first car to crash on the track and finished dead last. Joost sponsored a car that came in a respectable seventh.

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Of course it crashed.. (5, Funny)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313483)

Oblig: Of course it crashed because of a bad driver.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (2, Funny)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313529)

Bet they tried to drive it wirelessly.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (5, Funny)

BosstonesOwn (794949) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313745)

That my friend was a horrible joke.

In other news the Windows Vista car was slow off the line, but the car looked good and the driver was heard screaming "accept" as the car lurched forward and stopped every time he used the accelerator.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (5, Funny)

toleraen (831634) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313931)

"You are trying to brake to avoid a deadly accident. Cancel or al..."

One horrible joke deserves another!

Re:Of course it crashed.. (2, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314633)

It's Vista. ALL the pedals are brake pedals.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (5, Funny)

vmxeo (173325) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313631)

Turns out the driver crashed due to a race condition [fh-ulm.de] , which as most programmers know, should be avoided for the obvious reasons.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (5, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313993)

I believe it was also in relation to a problem with a Barrier [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Of course it crashed.. (4, Funny)

Eccles (932) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314189)

At least the firewall seems to have done its job.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (1)

Himring (646324) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313665)

you misspelled "noob."

Yeah, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313971)

They didn't even MAKE a Vista car. They're still clicking "[Cancel] or [Accept]" boxes asking if they want to install an engine, cup holders and mandatory spyware. Not to mention the fact that it's almost impossible to find any good Vista drivers...

As for the Linux car, this just goes to show why you shouldn't use binary drivers! If the driver had been open source, we could've just analyzed the core dump and had him patched in minutes!

Re:Of course it crashed.. (2, Funny)

mnmn (145599) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314011)

Not a bad driver. Just a closed driver. A driver not having been exposed to enough 'eyeballs'.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (3, Interesting)

Herby Sagues (925683) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314439)

Now, seriously, I find this a great idea: why have all sports to be sponsored by corporations? Individual sponsoring could be a good alternative. I don't see the relatioship with Linux though. It would be more like Linux if the community designed the vehicle and even left all the innovations open for the other competitors to benefit from them (as long as they also keep their designs open). But this is not the case. It is a traditional "closed source" car, only that it is sponsored by the public in a more direct way than the traditional publicity model. The other alternative is a more nationalist focus to sports competitions. I would really like it if in sports like Formula One teams stopped using a chassis from one country, an engine from another, tires from yet another and drivers from wherever is left. It would be much more exciting to see a competition between the Italia team, the France team, the British team, Americans and so on. Sponsorship could come from governments, citizens and even companies related to those countries.

The Linux car may have crashed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314085)

...but a Windows car would have crashed earlier and more often.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314451)

I'm sure its developers will be interested in avoiding examination of the core dump.

Re:Of course it crashed.. (1)

DJ Wings (954277) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314681)

Must have been open-source... (Please forgive me.)

hoo boy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313489)


It crashed but it still made it to the finish thanks to an experienced root at the helm.
Take that Netcraft.

The Blue Car of Death (4, Funny)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313505)

Moral of the story: Linux doesn't have good uptimes when you run it on unstable hardware.

Re:The Blue Car of Death (2, Funny)

lib3rtarian (1050840) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313969)

if only they hadn't had all those open windows! Someone should have told the driver to restart the engine and close all those windows!

Well, you have to admit... (2)

jd (1658) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314187)

...that the suspend operation worked flawlessly and throttling handled by hardware monitoring was handled to perfection.

Anyone done a ksymoops? (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314337)

That will tell you why it crashed.

Visual data? (5, Funny)

Swizec (978239) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313507)

Are there any photos or videos available of the crash? I'm all for linux, but seeing Tux splashed all over the road should be an interesting sight.

Re:Visual data? (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313647)

Yes, inquiring minds want to know. I think it was a Lone Gunman hired by Microsoft who splattered Tux on the roadway.

Re:Visual data? (5, Informative)

canUbeleiveIT (787307) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313837)

Video of crash [youtube.com]

Re:Visual data? (1)

Swizec (978239) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314039)

The Tux IS too small ...

Smells fishy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313519)

I wonder if M$'s people were at the track?

No... (3, Funny)

Zatchmort (1091857) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313521)

That's impossible; everyone knows Linux can't crash. He must have been dual-booting Windows.

Re:No... (2, Interesting)

rapidweather (567364) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314577)

If the car had "won", would everyone want to adopt Linux? No.
Putting your product, name or cause on a racecar is exactly why you don't see a "Windows" racecar.
Every time that car had a mishap, lots of jokes would be forthcoming.

The idea behind putting your name on a racecar is that if the car wins, then that win
is somehow transferred to the product. "If whoever can put a good, winning car out there must have a super product." Back in the days when tobacco companies sponsored racecars, it was supposed to make it "alright" to smoke if there was a tobacco sponsored racecar even on the track. It didn't have to win, just sit around with a nice paint job, promoting the product.
Now, we have laundry soap sponsors for racecars, and every thing else. "If whoever puts a racecar out there with the name of a laundry soap on it must make a really good laundry soap". "When I go down the grocery store isle, I'm gonna pick up a box of that stuff and put it in my shopping basket, for sure!"
It's all about advertising. The Goodyear Blimp is a good example. It really has to hold "air" to stay up, just like the tires that Goodyear sells. At least Goodyear's airship had a valid point there. I see no correlation between "Linux" and a winning or losing racecar.
The Microsoft people might not be so dumb after all. No "Vista" racecar.
 

LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313525)

It did as well as the geek vote of '04.

The reason was obvious (5, Funny)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313527)

The penguin couldn't see over the dashboard.

Oblig pengion joke (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313753)

A penguin walks into an auto repair shop. "There's oil all over the motor and I have to add oil every day," she says. The mechanic says it will take an hour to check out so the penguin leaves.

It's a hot day, and not being an African penguin [wikipedia.org] doesn't like the heat and decides to get an ice cream cone to cool off.

Of course, hot as it is it drips all over her chest. An hour later she goes to check on her car.

"Looks like you blew a seal," the machanic says.

"Oh, no," laughs the penguin, "That's just ice cream."

I blame Windows (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313543)

Obviously he couldn't see through his.

Let a bot moderate this one (5, Funny)

Sciros (986030) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313547)

Everyone here's gonna post some smartass comment about it all so just have a bot go through and give everyone +5 Funny to save time as well as valuable mod points.

Re:Let a bot moderate this one (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313693)

Only if the bot is running Linux. :P

Re:Let a bot moderate this one (1)

mmccoombe (533146) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313733)

Valuable, eh? I think I just figured out my new retirement plan!

Re:Let a bot moderate this one (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313935)

Since I browse with Funny=-3, that would definitely weed out the garbage pretty fast.

Re:Let a bot moderate this one (2, Funny)

nelsonal (549144) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313983)

So all you're going to see in this thread is, "move along, nothing to see here."

Enjoy it while you can Microsofties.... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313549)

...cuz this is the only way you'll see Linux crash....

to paraphrase John Glen (4, Funny)

phrostie (121428) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313557)

we must be gracious and magnaminous and say, damm i hate it when that happens.

now we know how Bill Gates feels

Title should be.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313581)

Linux Crashes At Indy 500

Good Publicity (1)

statusbar (314703) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313593)

I wouldn't have even heard about this if the car didn't crash!!

--jeffk++

Re:Good Publicity (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313961)

I wouldn't have even heard about this if the car didn't crash!!

There was a slashdot story about it, so you have no reason to complain HERE about not knowing about it.

Actually, there almost wasn't a story here; out of about twenty or twenty-five submissions that I saw cross the firehose on various days, only one was not written by a complete fucking idiot.

Some had the URL only in the submitter's name. Some had no links; some of those had the URL in the text, and some didn't. Most of the rest had stupid pithy comments about linux. Some of them had people whining about how it hadn't appeared on the front page yet.

This is the standard state of affairs. It turns out that slashdot isn't actually a more intelligent group than any other bunch of people who like computers and have web access; probably 90-95% of the story submissions suffer from the same problems. There would be a lot more stories on the slashdot front page if the majority of people who submit them weren't dumbfucks. The sad thing is that a lot of the submitted stories are quite interesting, but a leet-speaking myspacecase would do a better job with the submission. At least kids know how to make links in HTML.

Re:Good Publicity (4, Insightful)

forkazoo (138186) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314395)

This is the standard state of affairs. It turns out that slashdot isn't actually a more intelligent group than any other bunch of people who like computers and have web access; probably 90-95% of the story submissions suffer from the same problems. There would be a lot more stories on the slashdot front page if the majority of people who submit them weren't dumbfucks. The sad thing is that a lot of the submitted stories are quite interesting, but a leet-speaking myspacecase would do a better job with the submission. At least kids know how to make links in HTML.


Sadly, yes. I have been spending quite some time in the firehose myself, and it is pretty terrible. IMHO, the firehose needs some additional options besides just a thumbs up/thumbs down.

This submission should be on the front page.
This submission is terrible but the subject should be posted on the front page.
The subject is terrible.
The linked-to article is obviously stupid/hoax/idiotic, but merits some discussion anyway.
This submission is on the same subject as (identify another submission)

This way, the editors could see, "Hey, this block of 20 submissions were all identified by firehosers as being of the same subject, and the subject is considered important, I'll look at a few of the submissions and cobble together something."

Re:Good Publicity (0, Flamebait)

manifoldronin (827401) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314651)

It turns out that slashdot isn't actually a more intelligent group than any other bunch of people who like computers and have web access;
Did you just buy that low id number off ebay yesterday?

Re:Good Publicity (1)

StringBlade (557322) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314027)

Agreed. Aside from winning, crashing is the only other reason people would become aware of the Linux car. There were two "favorable" outcomes in terms of publicity and we got one of them, because there's no such thing as bad publicity.

After all, you can't spell "infamous" without "famous"!

It also provides a potential launchpad for new funding next year. Lots of people like to root for the underdog, and you can't be much more of an underdog than crashing and coming in dead last. Next time around people will remember the utter failure and may be willing to donate time or money to help the team.

Re:Good Publicity (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314233)

Maybe next year they won't use an ATI card to power the dash display.

A driver problem, for sure (5, Funny)

Stringer Bell (989985) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313597)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: it's hard to find drivers for Linux.

On the other hand... (2)

Cyko_01 (1092499) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314373)

...this proves that no matter how bad your drivers are linux will always keep you on your feet

Yep (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313599)

Poor driver support as usual.

ouch (5, Funny)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313603)

That reminds me when Sun Microsystems fielded the only yacht to have ever sunk in the Americas Cup. Sun had this tongue-in-cheek orientation video with a "thrill of victory / agony of defeat" section that showed the video clip of their yacht, with the Sun logo prominently emblazoned on the side, going to Davey Jones' Locker.

Re:ouch (4, Funny)

jinxidoru (743428) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313855)

It's actually Will Turner's Locker now.

Not "Will Turner's Locker"... (3, Funny)

ClayJar (126217) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314397)

He took me to his cabin and he told me his secret. 'I am not the Dread Pirate Roberts' he said. 'My name is Ryan; I inherited the ship from the previous Dread Pirate Roberts, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from is not the real Dread Pirate Roberts either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Roberts has been retired 15 years and living like a king in Patagonia.'
Nobody would surrender (their lives) to Will Turner. ;)

In other news.. (0, Troll)

pak9rabid (1011935) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313607)

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was spotted at the sides lines at the Indie 500 with a miniature version of the Linux-sponsored Indie 500 car. When questioned why he was shaking it around in a comical fasion, Ballmer responded he was trying his hand at voodoo.

Re:In other news.. (1, Troll)

kitsunewarlock (971818) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313787)

I wondered why he bought little 1/8th scale plastic chairs...

Calm down (3, Funny)

John.P.Jones (601028) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313609)

Everyone, try not to Panic!

Who's panicking? (5, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313771)

People are panicking? Why are they panicking, is something wrong? And why say "TRY not to," is it so bad that panic is almost a certainty? FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHAT AREN'T YOU TELLING US?

Re:Calm down (1)

danbert8 (1024253) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313989)

That's it, it must have had a kernel panic... Must have been a hardware problem.

Windows (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313623)

If it was a windows car we would have a bunch of jokes about how windows sucks.

Where are the Linux jokes /. ? Or can Linux do no evil because it is the underdog?

It was a driver issue.... (0, Flamebait)

fotbr (855184) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313625)

So many jokes.....

ATI drivers, binary blobs vs open source, etc.

Shamelessly stolen from Digg

Yeah but (4, Funny)

thewils (463314) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313689)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of them...

Re:Yeah but (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313729)

Burnt rubber in a race condition? Uh, no thanks.

Re:Yeah but (1)

kasperd (592156) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314181)

You have a point with that beowulf cluster, there is slightly more to it than a simple joke though. What this incident really proves is, that a race car with a penguin painted on the side does not perform as well as a race car designed by a beowulf cluster of linux machines [linuxelectrons.com] . (And this is probably not the only one, it was just the first I found).

If Linux made cars: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313709)

They would be the worst of the best and crash quickly apparently.

Maybe Microsoft should try making cars.

Drinking (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313763)

I blame the WINE.

The Microsoft Car (1)

BodyCount07 (260070) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313765)

"... meanwhile, the Microsoft car was seen slinking away from the scene with a guilty look on its face."

(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (-1, Flamebait)

Olaf Underbridge (717091) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313807)

The concept of Linux geeks caring about Nascar
is just bewildering. Spectator sports are
for beaten terminally-soul-ravaged wage-slaves,
not for hackers. What's next, betting on the
Detroit Penguins to win the World Series?

I searched Wikipedia for "Detroit Penguins" and the
first page of results didn't have a page with that
name, but it did mention NHL a few times; good enough
to be sure I'm remembering the name right.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313891)

Given the amount of cool as shit tech that goes into racing, if there was ever a sport embraced by geeks, racing would be it :P

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

Cyko_01 (1092499) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314221)

...only because you get to sit on your arse the whole time

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

Aleanil (1106167) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313913)

*coughs* The Detroit Redwings are probably the team you are thinking of, not the Detroit "Penguins". Or perhaps you are thinking of the NBA team, the Detroit Pistons. But there are no penguins in Detroit.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

SlowMovingTarget (550823) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314305)

But there are no penguins in Detroit.

Exactly! The Detroit Zoo is in Royal Oak.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

the linux geek (799780) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313925)

The team you're looking for is the Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit is the Red Wings.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

neersign (956437) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314265)

He probably also meant "Stanley Cup", unless he has mistaken the Penguin to be interchangable with the Tiger.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314017)

The concept of Linux geeks caring about Nascar is just bewildering.

Does this [indy500.com] look like NASCAR to you?

It would be better if you checked to see if you knew what you were talking about before posting comments.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314149)

Could you help us out maybe by posting a relevant URL here? Maybe to some sort of news article with more information?

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314161)

If probably does look like NASCAR to him. That's the point.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

plover (150551) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314367)

****whoosh****

That was the commenter's point, going straight over your head.

Does this look like NASCAR to you?
Yes.

Oh, wait, I see the difference now. Indy 500 is "Go fast, turn left, winner drinks Champagne." But NASCAR is "Go fast, turn left, winner drinks Budweiser."

Maybe we should just stick with the lame driver jokes.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

senatorpjt (709879) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314589)

I believe the winner drinks milk.

Re:(union linux-geeks nascar-fans) (1)

plover (150551) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314615)

Shows what I know.

Not NASCAR (4, Funny)

wsanders (114993) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314047)

This is Grand Prix racing, not a bunch of hicks with tractors from NASCAR. You know, super expensive cars, handsome drivers with fancy European names like "Dario", silken ascots worn under tight-fitting racing uniforms, sponsorships by barely profitable Internet firms . . .
OMFG! IT'S 1999 AGAIN!

Re:Not NASCAR (1)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314329)

This is Grand Prix racing, not a bunch of hicks with tractors from NASCAR. You know, super expensive cars, handsome drivers with fancy European names like "Dario", silken ascots worn under tight-fitting racing uniforms, sponsorships by barely profitable Internet firms
Indycars is 'Grand Prix' racing? I could be wrong but I thought that label only applied to Formula 1.

nascar is just like life (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313823)

linux come in last? it's the loser that just can't cut it? who would have imagined that.

but still the fanbois just to make it seem like it's fine.

I guess 2007... (5, Funny)

MLS100 (1073958) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313927)

...is not the year of Linux on the Racetrack.

Re:I guess 2007... (1)

FMota91 (1050752) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314611)

Perhaps Linux should've been on Rails...

Re:I guess 2007... (3, Funny)

senatorpjt (709879) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314627)

Well, this is the first port of the kernel to the indycar platform, there are bound to be bugs to work out.

7th place? pffffft (1)

burris (122191) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313949)

If you're not first, you're last. - Ricky Bobby

Of course it crashed... (3, Funny)

Refelian (923767) | more than 7 years ago | (#19313953)

Considering it didn't have windows.

In Soviet Indy: +1, Helpful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19313977)


Car crashes Linux and then phones "President" George W. Bush [huffingtonpost.com] .

Must have been a BTD (1)

ClosedSource (238333) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314051)

Black Tarmac of Death.

Finished Last (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314073)

I see a trend. Linux Car finishes last. Linux OS is in last place for the desktop market. The only thing you have going for your is the server market and you still can not get 85% of that like how Windows has 85% of the desktop market (or is it close to 95%?)

Not Ready (4, Funny)

Imexius (967514) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314101)

Obviously Linux isn't ready for the race-track ;)

Just need to spin this the right way... (1)

dfsmith (960400) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314379)

In this timing benchmark, the Tux car was first to complete the race.

Just to prove that Penguins can't drive. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314409)

When I was in college I won a sweepstakes to go to Bob Bondurant at Sears Point, this is before they moved to Arizona. I learn much in that week of driving school and one of classes was driving a mini-Indy race car. That car was difficult to drive since you are fighting G's and no power steering on those fat wheels. My arms where sore because of steering and shoulders and rear where bruised because of banging against the side of car for just one hour for only 160 miles. I hate to do that for 500 miles. It does look easy in those video games but the real thing that is missing in those games are the G's and steering effort.

In that case... (1)

NYYankee161st (785590) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314453)

The Linux car drove in a never-ending circle (infinite loop), the Solaris car barely got moving at speed, and the Windows car crashed into a tree...

Microsoft's car (0, Troll)

jazzman75 (637691) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314531)

The Microsoft sponsored car turned blue with white writing mid way through and idled in the middle of the track for the rest of the race.

So that's what happened to tux500 (1)

neurovish (315867) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314537)

After hearing that the car qualified, I watched as the cars were rolled out of the pits and the first few laps of the race, trying to find the car with the linux sponsorship (I only saw the rendering [tux500.com] until just now). The car was nowhere to be found, so I completely forgot about it and figured that it blew up/crashed/dq'd on Carburetion Day. Now I see that the entire tux500 project came down to a tiny sticker that was visible on TV for about 5 seconds when the car wrecked. Sounds a bit like a waste.

genric drivers (1)

3mpire (953036) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314609)

Those generic drivers are always unstable.

obligatory... (1)

CYDVicious (834329) | more than 7 years ago | (#19314687)

He had to swerve to avoid a flying chair...

oblig simpsons ref, sorry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19314715)

<nelson voice> Ha ha! </nelson voice>
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