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GTA IV Delay Rumoured

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the waiting-for-your-new-car dept.

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This past weekend Gamespot did a Rumor Control article on the possibility of a delay in GTA IV's release. Michael Pachter, of Wedbush Morgan Securities, predicted that the Take-Two board shakeup would result in some game cancellations and (in GTA's case) some delays. The article points out that the rumour is as-yet unconfirmed. The company has gone on record as saying, that the game would still release in October (the expected launch month), but that doesn't necessarily rule out Pachter's scenario. "'We believe that it is possible that the company will choose to 'throw in the towel' on [its 2007 financial year] by shifting the release date for Grand Theft Auto IV by a few weeks, increasing the losses incurred this year and improving the company's prospects for FY:08.' Take-Two's financial year ends on October 31, 2007. Pachter gave another rationale for a GTA IV delay: namely, that moving it to early November would put more space between GTA IV and Halo 3, which is arriving September 25. 'We believe that a two-week delay would provide a reasonable gap between the launch of Halo 3 and the launch of GTA IV, and would actually help sales of both games,' he said."

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seriously (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396173)

My life is officially over.

We at the new take two board would like to explain (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396205)

the previous board was a bunch of Jack Thomson accomodating pansies.

We must delay to add more pointless sex, blood, violence and gore. Please be patient

[Disclaimer: this post is not by the Take 2 board, or anyone affiliated, and is meant only in joke, satyre, and hopes that reality pans out to be like this]

GTA4 on PC? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396229)

We keep hearing of the console version coming in October (or now November), but what's the deal with the PC version? Has a date been announced yet?

Re:GTA4 on PC? (2, Informative)

FlopEJoe (784551) | more than 6 years ago | (#19399621)

It'll probably be the usual time difference with the added constraint of requiring Vista.

Has it ever NOT happened? (4, Insightful)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396239)

Seriously, has any highly anticipated game ever NOT been delayed? I don't think this guy is really going out on a limb here.

Re:Has it ever NOT happened? (2, Insightful)

DocWat232 (895496) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396261)

So would this delay be used to fix any bugs ferreted out in QA, or would this delay be for purely financial reasons?

Re:Has it ever NOT happened? (1)

badasscat (563442) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396577)

Seriously, has any highly anticipated game ever NOT been delayed?

Original GTA games (as opposed to ports) are never delayed. And I only make the "port" caveat because I do recall GTA for the GBA being delayed, and I'm not sure about the PS2 releases of the PSP games.

But Rockstar takes a lot of pride in being one publisher that does *not* delay major releases once a release date has been announced.

Re:Has it ever NOT happened? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19399503)

Seriously, has any highly anticipated game ever NOT been delayed?

Technically, since the deadline for Duke Nukem Forever is "when it's done", it's not possible for it to be delayed. Therefore, when Duke Nukem is released, it will be the only highly anticipated game ever released to NOT be delayed. Or at least, that's what I'll tell my grandson when I give it to him for his 30th birthday.

Signs of the slashdot end times (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396329)

Delays and rumors of delays... and certainly, nothing concrete

Helping Halo3? (2, Insightful)

neumayr (819083) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396361)

Why would it be in Take-Two's interest to help boost the sale of Halo3?

Re:Helping Halo3? (4, Insightful)

Steeltalon (734391) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396435)

It's not helping Halo. It's recognizing that they'd both lose if they came out at the same time since people are more likely to be able to buy one or the other at a given time. This way they each get their own rush.

Re:Helping Halo3? (2, Insightful)

British (51765) | more than 6 years ago | (#19399009)

What about holliday sales? I could see a lot of consoles being sold around Christmas time just for playing GTA4 or Halo 3. Heck, I caved in and bought a PS2 just to play GTA3 when it looked like no PC release was in sight, and never looked back.

Re:Helping Halo3? (1)

nosferatu1001 (264446) | more than 6 years ago | (#19408121)

And if there are delays because of other games, surely it's not just Halo3.

From a PS3 standpoint there is Heavnly sword, WarHawk, Rachet & Clank & the possibility of Tekken 6

Not to mention that Skate & Assassin's Creed will be coming out on both systems in September too.

But once you get to september your entering Christmas present territory anyway, surely when you release in the last six months only effects your first week sales anyway. If people want both Halo 3 and GTAIV or any of the other games out at the end of the year, they will buy them. If not by the end of the year, then Jan next year once they christmas money to spend

Noooooooo! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396379)

This just means politicians will have to wait a few more weeks to find a new scapegoat for all of the problems in the world.

You know the drill (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19396403)

In before duke nukem forever jokes

Not gonna happen (4, Interesting)

badasscat (563442) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396449)

I said this on Kotaku as well, but I worked for several years at Rockstar and through the release of six or seven different GTA titles, and there is no way in hell Rockstar will ever, ever, ever postpone the release date of GTAIV. It is too big of a game with too well-publicized of a release date.

Pachter doesn't know how Rockstar thinks (and I'm making the distinction between Rockstar and Take 2, because while they are the same company really, the decision-making between each is handled differently). First of all, there's no chance whatsoever of them delaying a game because of the competition. None. Because they don't think they have any competition. They think of GTA as the #1 game series in the world (and I'm not sure if that's true, but it may be over the last 7 or 8 years). If anything, they're wondering if Bungie is going to delay Halo 3 because of GTAIV, not the other way around.

Second, they don't delay games because they're not ready. Never happens. They're one of those game companies that work their developers to the bone to make milestones. This is completely different from Take 2 - we all know about the DNF saga. Rockstar doesn't operate that way. They pride themselves on discipline, and they will work 20 hour days for six months straight if that's what it takes to release a game on time.

The only *possible* reason they would ever delay a game was to move it into another fiscal quarter. I think they actually did that with one game while I was there... maybe Max Payne 2. I don't remember exactly. But never a numbered GTA game. They would never spend millions promoting a release date and then change it. They've considered all the fiscal considerations long ago, before setting that date.

Note that there's also a difference between "delaying" a game that never had a release date (like The Warriors, which came out about 2 years later than original internal schedules had it) and delaying a game that does have an announced release date. Rockstar thinks of themselves as above doing the latter, and they also just consider it suicidal in terms of publicity and eventual sales. To them, delaying a game 2 weeks in October just means 2 fewer weeks worth of Christmas season sales, not to mention garnering them an air of incompetence and generating questions among the public about the game's state of readiness.

I have been wrong once or twice in my life, but I will seriously cook and eat the Rockstar shirt that I'm currently wearing if they delay GTAIV. There would have had to have been a complete sea change in attitude at Rockstar since I left for that to ever happen, and I know the people who are still there from when I was there - and the real decision makers at Rockstar are among them. It would take direct involvement from the Zelnick to delay GTAIV, and even then it would be strenuously argued against, literally to the point of threats and near-violence. I have seen it happen before - there are reasons why Take 2's CEO churn rate is so high that go beyond simple fiscal issues.

Re:Not gonna happen (3, Insightful)

palewook (1101845) | more than 6 years ago | (#19396685)

if they did delay it to tighten the code, nobody is going to boycott the game. its going to sell crazy numbers the day it goes gold. shipping it in a nonworking manner could be bad for long term sales though. sometimes a small delay beats mountains of patches. poor launch code has killed one or two anticipated releases. patching after the fact isnt always good for business.

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

dhakbar (783117) | more than 6 years ago | (#19397643)

Since when has Rockstar released buggy games with the strategy of patching it up after release?

Name one title they've even patched post-release aside from the Hot Coffee fiasco.

Re:Not gonna happen (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19398995)

Second, they don't delay games because they're not ready. Never happens. They're one of those game companies that work their developers to the bone to make milestones. This is completely different from Take 2 - we all know about the DNF saga. Rockstar doesn't operate that way. They pride themselves on discipline, and they will work 20 hour days for six months straight if that's what it takes to release a game on time.

Sounds like a perfect recipe for causing delays. Overtired developers introduce bugs quicker than they can fix them. Working harder is counterproductive.

No, if Rockstar manage to stay on target with respect to deadlines, it's because they know when they aren't going to meet them, and decide to drop features. Remember the original GTA 3? That was supposed to have proper planes in it like the sequels, but they didn't have the time to do it properly, and so they ended up with one crappy "easter egg" plane instead.

Re:Not gonna happen (2, Interesting)

MorpheousMarty (1094907) | more than 6 years ago | (#19401589)

Interesting points. It explains why the games seems seem to have such a high level of polish and yet seem rushed. Make sure you post the video on YouTube if you have to eat your shirt though.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19406335)

I agree with you, but it seems that you've forgotten about the San Andreas delay. The original PS2 version of San Andreas was delayed by one or two weeks (I think 2 weeks) fairly late in its development. My memory from three years ago isn't perfect, but I seem to remember the delay being announced in around August or September. So we can't rule out short delays just yet. As for a several month delay, you're right - not gunna happen.

The Plan (0)

commisaro (1007549) | more than 6 years ago | (#19397119)

We should load up on weapons and ammo, grab some gang members, steal a car, sleep with a few hookers, then drive down to Rockstar HQ and beat them up with a baseball bat until they release the game. ... but maybe that's just GTA3 talking.

Delay it as much as you want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19397245)

I wish they would have delayed San Andreas to the PS3 and 360...

The slow PS2 almost made it impossible to enjoy for me with all those framedrops and that fucked up controls when I was running through a house shooting. No way I would have made it trough certain Missions without the auto-aim.

I wish the next GTA will have the performance to make auto-aim unnecessary.

Will there be a downloadable demo of the rumor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19400359)


 

Okay (2, Insightful)

DaveCBio (659840) | more than 6 years ago | (#19402589)

Anyone that takes Pachter seriously ought to have their noggins examined. The guy is about as accurate as a coin flip or a Magic 8 Ball (tm). Over the years I've seen him quoted again and again and he's almost always been wrong. It's possible that I haven't seen his correct predictions, but anyone that knows anything gaming industry usually scratches their heads when they read quotes from him. In conclusion, you can spell analyst without the "anal" and he's got plenty of it.
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