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Fallout 3 Trailer Available Online

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the nice-vault-you've-got-there dept.

Role Playing (Games) 110

Voodoo Extreme and 1up are both hosting the long anticipated Fallout 3 Trailer. Looks like we'll be seeing the game in stores Fall of 2008. Says Bethesda's Pete Hines, Bethesda's PR point man: "Yes, that's in-engine (in-engine means it's done with game assets in our rendering engine, but isn't done real-time. If it was done in real-time, that'd be gameplay footage. This isn't something, for example, that was sent to some house [e.g. Blue Studios] so they could build assets and render it out, and create something for us to release [e.g. Dawn of War 40K intro cinematic]). Yes, that's The Ink Spots singing "I Don't Want to Set the World On Fire" Yes, that's Ron Perlman [voiceover man extraordinaire of Fallout 1 and 2]." The official site doesn't have a lot more in the way of detail than that.

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Awesome! (1)

Cheezymadman (1083175) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400109)

I've been waiting for this trailer for weeks!

And as soon as my 256kbps connection takes an hour and a half to DL the big version, I'm sure I'll nut myself with joy!

Re:Awesome! (2, Insightful)

brkello (642429) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403227)

It's actually pretty boring. At least it is short...I supposed they could have just panned out for another 15 minutes.

Re:Awesome! (2, Insightful)

spoco2 (322835) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404853)

Gee, I guess you wanted it to have a myriad of explosions and maybe some tits, and perhaps a few heads being blown off.

It's atmospheric, it hits all the buttons to make fans of the original games excited again (the period music, the old world war posters, the things from the world that was left lying there...

And the game engine looks pretty darn nice.

I have to say I had no idea that Ron Perlman did the voice overs of the last two games, I guess it would be because I didn't know who he was when I played them... but Hellboy as voice over guy... nice :)

Re:Awesome! (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 7 years ago | (#19410029)

Goes to show my age. When I heard that I didn't think "Hellboy is doing the voice overs", I thought "Oh man Vincent is doing the voice overs" :).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092319/ [imdb.com]

Re:Awesome! (1)

brkello (642429) | more than 7 years ago | (#19410089)

Yeah, I guess it is unrealistic to expect a game trailer to actually, you know, show some of the game. If this is all they have to do to get you excited, I bet you might explode if a girl said hi to you.

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19405489)

I think some people are missing the greater point of this teaser.

It's very much in the style and tone of the other two Fallout game intros, and to me that shows that Bethesda is trying to make this a Fallout game, rather than "Elder Scrolls with guns". That to me, is pretty exciting.

Re:Awesome! (1)

bckrispi (725257) | more than 7 years ago | (#19415789)

It's actually pretty boring. At least it is short...I supposed they could have just panned out for another 15 minutes.
Bethesda doesn't have to prove it can make Fallout with exciting graphics. Bethesda has to prove that it can match the atmosphere and mood of its predecessors. The trailer was very reminiscent of the original Fallout opening: A TV showing post-modern 1950's commercials. Boring, yeah. Until the camera pans out to show that the TV is sitting in a bombed out building in the middle of a ruined city. Simple, not exiting, but very, very effective. This trailer proved to me that Bethesda realizes what it was that made the Fallout franchise so unique and enthralling. Now they just have to deliver the goods.

humm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19400189)

Kinda makes me wish I hadn't sold my copies of Fallout 1 and 2.. anyone else ever get 'gamesick'? :)

Re: Here's hoping... (3, Insightful)

Clockworkalien (1099495) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400191)

...the in-game currency is bottle caps. Awesome trailer!

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400403)

You know, I didn't remember that from Fallout 1 ,but somehow the idea of bottle caps being currency post-war is very ... Warming.

(I just looked it up... I actually didn't like Fallout at the time, since it was supposed to be the sequel to my then-favorite game, Wasteland, and was nothing like it.)

It's the little things in a game that really make it memorable, and I hope they spend the time for all those little touches.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

EricTheMad (603880) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400945)

I actually didn't like Fallout at the time, since it was supposed to be the sequel to my then-favorite game, Wasteland, and was nothing like it.


Fallout wasn't a sequel to Wasteland. It has often been referred to as a "Spiritual Successor", though.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400993)

IIRC, the original idea is they *wanted* to do a Wasteland sequel but secure the rights to Wasteland. So... they designed Fallout instead with a few references to Wasteland. Nonetheless, you are correct, it is a spiritual successor to the game.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401047)

(could NOT secure the rights, sorry!)

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

doombringerltx (1109389) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401303)

They were developed by the same company, so I doubt that was the problem

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

secolactico (519805) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401531)

Maybe they didn't retain the rights. Wasteland was published by Electronics Arts (Fallout by themselves thru Black Isle).

Re: Here's hoping... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19404283)

publishers distribute it, deal with the marketing, etc. They don't have any rights to the game itself.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

elzahir (442873) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401661)

Although the game was developed by Interplay, Wasteland was actually published by Electronic Arts, who held the rights while Fallout was being made.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

naoursla (99850) | more than 7 years ago | (#19407949)

Fallout was also supposed to be GURPS computer adaptation, but "they" had a falling out with Steve Jackson games.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

djasbestos (1035410) | more than 7 years ago | (#19410845)

It's still got that Steve Jackson flavored absurdity and dark humor...the image of Pip-Boy blowing people away for "Bloody Mess" fits right in there with Munchkin and INWO. I'm sure we've all heard the rumors that they cut out a lot of that wonderfully twisted comic relief...I hope it's not true, that's the icing on the cake for that game...

I'm stoked as hell for this game, I just hope it can live up to Fallout 2 and not be as constraining as Fallout: Tactics (not to say I didn't like Tactics, but it wasn't an RPG, and wasn't nearly as evilly hilarious as 2).

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405803)

That's not how it was marketed/hyped at the time. ;) Now, it's quite obvious that it's not a sequel.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 7 years ago | (#19402899)

I agree, Wasteland was my favorite game at the time, I totally skipped Fallout 1 since I'd rather go back and play WL.
Jonah HEX

Re: Here's hoping... (5, Insightful)

vertinox (846076) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400629)

And I hope they have caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices.

One of the big sticking points with me is that the FO series allowed you to be good or evil. It gave you total freedom and even some in between.

But this entailed of course stealing from anyone, doing drugs, killing children, having sex with prostitutes, being a porn star, and basically killing everything that moves, but you would have some repreccusions such as encounters with bounty hunters or various other groups who were mad at you.

But at the same time you could also be a saint or follow the path of good.

Personally, I joined the brother hood and spent my time being a vigilante cleansing places like New Reno with healthy dose of burst fire.

And it still allowed you to beat the game without firing a single shot.

Without the freedom to be truly evil or good... It won't be Fallout.

That is what I am worried about.

Re: Whoops! (1)

vertinox (846076) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400771)

And I hope they have caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices.

Whooops! I meant I hope they have not caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices...

Re: Whoops! (1)

empaler (130732) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401449)

It's an epidemic [slashdot.org] ! :-p

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

Lightwarrior (73124) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401843)

Why do you think Bethesda would do this? It's not like their TES titles were bastions of moral absolutism.

Re: Here's hoping... (2, Insightful)

Rallion (711805) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405955)

Considering the company that's making it, I would definitely say that limited freedom should be the least of your worries.

Re: Here's hoping... (1)

Hankharpoon (1112089) | more than 7 years ago | (#19407985)

and, unfortunately, that is why you will be disappointed. Fortunately, it will be disappointment directed at fallout 3..... and how bad could that really be?

Finally! More single player games! (4, Interesting)

VitrosChemistryAnaly (616952) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400209)

Oh man, I've been waiting for this for years

I'm just not into those damn MMORPGs so it has been a bad few years for me. However, with the announcement of Starcraft 2 and now Fallout 3 being imminent, I'm quite excited.

Am I the only person in the world who likes single player games anymore? Seriously all I hear about are MMO games.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400561)

I like single player games too, but I have to admit I enjoy MMORPGS because there is so much to explore, which I can do solo :)

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

skobar (890726) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401279)

There is something wrong with playing single player in an mmo but I understand what you mean. The quest and atmosphere is usually better in a single player game though as they can affect the whole storyline. The problem with mmo is that the world feel so static. They need to keep the same content so that everyone can enjoy it and not only 1 person.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401421)

I see no problem playing single player in a MMORPG. If I don't feel social why should I be?

You should try Guild wars, it's a MMORPG with a single player focus.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Masami Eiri (617825) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401545)

GW isn't, and never has really been an MMO. Also, its made to encourage team-play, as the henchies are really only good early on or as cannon-fodder... though the heroes in Nightfall are a bit better.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403815)

Learning to use hencies is the key. I find Henchies are better than human players as I can focus how they fight. For example a team od ranged users used much more effectively than human players ever could.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

skobar (890726) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401877)

I don't have a problem with playing alone in mmorpg either. I played my share of WoW and did solo quite a bit although I preferred playing with people. It is just that you don't really have a story involving you. You are not really important in the world. I know Guild War is a bit different but I would not call it a real MMo though. It is more of a Diablo clone and instead of having chat rooms to choose the game you want to play, you do it in the city with your character, everything else is instance, a la Diablo. It just isn't the same and I doubt they will ever be able to achieve a real single player experience in a mmorpg world. ps: I did play Guild wars and did not really like it, but that was probably because I was playing world of warcraft at that time and it was so much better. I may try it again.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

bbcisdabomb (863966) | more than 7 years ago | (#19406413)

I just have a problem paying to play a game that I bought. I bought the game, now it should be MINE, dammit!

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

krelian (525362) | more than 7 years ago | (#19406745)

I feel the same. I actually enjoy WoW and EVE quite a lot, but I get this strange feeling that I don't really own the game, that it's not mine. WoW and EVE are probably not the best example but lets say that an new MMO comes out that I really like but it never actually takes off and the company shuts it down after a year or two. Now, although I paid for the game I simply cannot play it anymore (not to mention 10 years from now for nostalgia).

MMO's are not perfect, but what I like about them is the huge world available for exploration and tons of items and different classes to try. As far as I understand, the monthly fee is supposed to cover server costs and the updates to the game. So why aren't companies creating such massive worlds for single player games? Someone correct me if I am wrong but the only game that comes close to the vastness of an MMO is Oblivion, and even that one is very small compared to the world available in a game like WoW.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 7 years ago | (#19409055)

I just have a problem paying to play a game that I bought.

I think you should really, really think about this sentence for a moment.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#19417281)

Solo? Look, I've tried that on both WoW and FFXI, and when you try to solo, you get your ass handed to you. In FFXI, by the monsters, by lvl 20, anything that gives XP will RAPE any single player character. In WoW, its possible to lvl soloing mobs, however above about lvl 25 or so, you get raped by played of the opposing faction. Who come along in a party and then corpse camp you for half an hour. It's pretty disgusting.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Drey (1420) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400571)

"Am I the only person in the world who likes single player games anymore?"

Yes/no. I'd prefer more single *or* multi-player co-op RPGs, along the lines of Diablo 2 or the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance stuff on the PS2. My wife and I would never have even begun on WoW if we'd had a new D2 to play.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (3, Interesting)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400599)

Nope, There's at least the two of us. The trailer was actually pretty encouraging to me. It looked much more like Fallout than I expected from Bethesda. I'm still concerned about it being first person though. I really like isometric games. On the other hand, if they can pull of a first person RPG-like in the Fallout universe that is as cool as Bioshock looks right now, I'll be happy. I just pray it won't be anything like Oblivion. I'm sorry, I've been playing TES since Daggerfall, and they've all failed pretty horribly to deliver on their promise. They suck IMHO.

VitrosChemistryAnaly, I strongly suggest you look into Bioshock, it's a first person RPG/Shooter/Survival horror hybrid by much of the team that did System Shock (which you should also look into if you haven't played them). I have very high hopes for this game (shipping August this year on PC/XBOX360) on the basis of the history of the team. I really hope they can get some success this time, they really deserve it. System Shock 2 got killed by the release of the original Half-Life. The original by the release of Doom II. The same company also created the Thief series. Also, I don't work for them, I'm just a fan.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401165)

Ummm, what makes you think it's going to be first person? The trailer didn't show any gameplay footage. I don't think they'll make Fallout first person. In Bethesda's other games, first person made sense. Not to defend them, Bethesda's made a lot of bad decisions in the past, but let's not jump the gun until we actually have any evidence.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19401719)

Ummm, what makes you think it's going to be first person? The trailer didn't show any gameplay footage.

But they say it is "in-engine", which means they have a 3D engine capable of doing first person. Either way, we don't know for sure right now.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (2, Interesting)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403329)

It's 2007, it's a sequel to a series that's built on a psuedo-3D graphical style (isometric) from a time when 3D graphics weren't good enough to give users what interplay wanted... no shit it's going to be 3D. Probably the best route would be sorta like FF12s camera, but even higher up and farther back... basically the same view as the original three Fallout games, but that could be swivelled around the player and possibly "realed in" to being fairly close behind, when need be. 3D != First Person. Heck, most 3D games aren't first person. Why is everyone jumping to conclusions?

Re:Finally! More single player games! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19401349)

"I'm still concerned about it being first person though."

Personally, I'm still hoping that it's a third-person,over-the-shoulder-camera, in the same vein as ResidentEvil4, MassEffect, or Gears. I dislike first-person for RPG's- whats the point of getting all the cool gear (power armor, etc.) if you're only going to see disembodied hands 95% of the time?

Bethesda has a history of incorporating both 1st and 3rd person views, but most of the time, 3rd person seems to be added as almost an afterthought, and isn't really playable.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403669)

Agreed. I was extremely nervous about Bethesda picking up the license. I really liked the little touches. The music, Ron, the same style in artwork. Here's hoping they pan out.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (2, Interesting)

GreggBz (777373) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400783)

No, me to. I enjoy not having to deal with people sometimes. I'm somehow always reminded that I'm connected to the Internet, and therefore, at the mercy of the whims of others, when playing an MMORPG. Single player games allow me to fall into that private, inner world if you will, rather like reading a good book. STALKER really reminded me of fallout. If it's like STALKER except more refined and with a better, conical plot, I'll be super happy.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401091)

A conical plot? What is that supposed to be?

Re:Finally! More single player games! (5, Informative)

Gropo (445879) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401415)

A conical plot? What is that supposed to be?
Plot = 1/3pr^2h

Or as expressed in English: one common starting point, multiple avenues of plot advancement. The first two games were renowned for the fact that you could become.. a bare-knuckled kung fu master that slaughters every child they come across and is reviled by all... Or a pistolero do-gooder working to 'thwart the evils' of the world and fight organized crime in all forms... (etc) Yet at the end of the game accomplish the same 'scripted' goals.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403703)

Your descriptions brought back warm and fuzzy memories. I just finished Fallout for the Nth time a few weeks ago, but now I'm going to have to go back and replay Fallout 2 again.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

chronosan (1109639) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401457)

I think that's meant to be 'canonical', following the original story in theme, word, and ideals.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (3, Funny)

GreggBz (777373) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401763)

tank good for mozilla's speil cheeking.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

BytePusher (209961) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401329)

Agreed! I haven't personally owned a computer for about three years, but with Starcraft 2 coming and now Fallout 3... I think I'll cave in and get one.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

harrkev (623093) | more than 7 years ago | (#19402671)

Agreed! I haven't personally owned a computer for about three years, but with Starcraft 2 coming and now Fallout 3... I think I'll cave in and get one.
Must be hard typing messages that long on your cell phone keypad. Moleskin is supposed to work quite well for thumb blisters.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

Kal Zekdor (826142) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401465)

Not to mention BioShock right around the corner. A lot of old favorites are being resurrected in the near future. The original Starcraft, Fallout 1 and 2, as well as System Shock 1 and 2, are some of the best games ever made, in my opinion anyway. Here's hoping these new incarnations live up to the old legacies, and that this isn't another Fallout Tactics.

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

LighterShadeOfBlack (1011407) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401993)

Am I the only person in the world who likes single player games anymore? Seriously all I hear about are MMO games.
You're certainly not. MMOGs just don't appeal to me. The misanthropist in me strongly resists the idea of a game where my enjoyment rests largely on the good faith of others. Not to mention relying on the continued support of the game developers in that you're at their mercy with the direction they take the game (very rarely a choice to not "upgrade") and that the game stops when the company chooses (or folds).

Re:Finally! More single player games! (1)

dalmiroy2k (768278) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404515)

there are some 2007 PC games that offer solid single player experience:

_ Command and Conquer 3
_ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
_ Tomb Raider 10th anniversary edition

Re:Finally! More single player games! (3, Funny)

LKM (227954) | more than 7 years ago | (#19407771)

_ Command and Conquer 3
_ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
_ Tomb Raider 10th anniversary edition
_ hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Wow, that "hex" game sounds intriguing!

I'm Too Cheap to Play MMORPG (1)

Rev Jim (AKA Metal F (1004571) | more than 7 years ago | (#19411709)

That and it seems there might be more of a time commitment to play many, many hours a week so I haven't tried a MMORPG yet. Battlefield 2 was fun to go online and play though I thought. I'm not going to pay a monthly fee for a game I already bought, I must be too cheap I guess. Elder Scrolls to me is one of the best series of games evah! I trust Fallout in their hands, looking forward to seeing this trailer at lunch. I may have to try the upcoming Conan MMORPG though...that's the plan anyways, we'll see.

Game of the year 2008 anyone? (1)

phildawg (1104325) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400281)

I know it's way to early to throw out such phrases... but Fallout is such a break from the normal video game. I was completely drawn in by the first and second one... and cannot wait for another =)

Nice Touch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19400293)

The old-timey tube radio that starts up playing the song in the beginning has a brand name of "Radiation King" on the front of it.

I don't know if this was an actual brand name but it's something that Abe Simpson calls his old TV with the burnt in shadow of Homer sitting crosslegged in front of it.

I really appreciate tiny details like that on games :)

Re:Nice Touch (2, Insightful)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#19406431)

IIRC, "Radiation King" was the brand of the TV in the Fallout 1 opening video. In fact, all sorts of fallouty things are in there: Vault Boy in the correct context; a super toolkit right next to a bottle of rotgut; the Ink Spots song that was supposed to be the original music used in Fallout 1; american 50s style propaganda; using retro tube sci-fi to depict technology; RON FUCKING PERLMAN; a poster with a car advertisement with the correct car style (is it the highwayman? not sure tho).

The power armor was different... but it was still ok. why it's different (i.e. creative direction or a different model) is still a mystery.

Ever changing never changing (2, Insightful)

sanjacguy (908392) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400441)

"War...War never changes." Thank God neither does Ron Perlman's voice.

Re:Ever changing never changing (1)

Walkingshark (711886) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405319)

Actually, now that you mention it, it is a little known fact that Ron Perlman is the world's only sufferer from Perlman's Syndrome, a genetic mutation that causes the vocal cords to go through their full adult development while still in the womb. Literally, Ron Perlman's voice has never changed.

Hmm...pc or console? solo or co-op? (-1, Troll)

sckeener (137243) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400537)

I really need console and I really need co-op. I love fallout, but like the game I've got old. As I get older I have less and less time to play games alone. It is easier for me to play games when I know I can play them with others.

If it isn't co-op, I'm not interested...

I have one thing to say about that... (1)

Sperbels (1008585) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400627)

Awesome.

Nice choice of music. (5, Informative)

efence (927813) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400647)

"I Don't Want to Set the World On Fire" by The Ink Spots. It was supposed to be a title track for Fallout 1, but Black Isle couldn't get the license.

Re:Nice choice of music. (2, Informative)

hemorex (1013427) | more than 7 years ago | (#19402541)

I feel quite ashamed to be the one to point this out, but a clip from that song was also used in an old Megadeth song... which happened to be about the aftermath of nuclear war.

Re:Nice choice of music. (1)

bckrispi (725257) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405599)

Shame on you for being ashamed for knowing your Megadeth history!!

Deja Vu (1)

Helge9210 (759666) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400687)

Long long ago I was looking for information about sequel for TES: Daggerfall. There was a site about Morrowind with some "Project frozen..." and something like that. When project was reanimated and then completed it became one of best CRPGs. Now Fallout 3...

Shred of hope (1)

HaymarketRiot (931189) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400973)

Yes I am one of those angry and unreasonable Fallout fans. Yes, I cried a little at the trailer. I can honestly say that this trailer has given me a shred of hope that Fallout 3 might just turn out alright.

Re:Shred of hope (3, Insightful)

Rallion (711805) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405997)

I know what you mean. It's obvious that the sole purpose of the trailer was to say, 'Look, we get it, we know what Fallout is supposed to be.' And they convinced me. And I truly did almost shed a tear of happiness.

I'm a little uncomfortable with the realization that it means that much to me, but it does. I wouldn't say that either Fallout 1 or 2 is my favorite game ever, but there is absolutely no series that I would be sadder to see messed up. (Tactics wasn't a super-great game, but I didn't feel like it 'corrupted' the series in any way. Just a sub-par entry.)

So where's the gameplay? (5, Insightful)

hindumagic (232591) | more than 7 years ago | (#19400995)

Great, yet another hype video that shows the "engine" - whatever that means. Let's see some gameplay! Given the lovely engine that they have, I guess that we won't have the isometric view as per Fallout 1 & 2 - or will we?

Fallout had some nice graphics for its time, but it was the gameplay, story, and amazing art direction that made it a standout. This preview shows nothing, other than a 3D engine that could be swapped out for ID's or Epic's - hell, it could be Duke Nukem reborn for all we know. Yeah, it looks cool, but there is really nothing here.

Yawn.

Re:So where's the gameplay? (2, Insightful)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401123)

TEASER VIDEO - HELLO? When has a teaser video a year and a half before release (at least) ever shown gameplay footage? At best, the gameplay is in a rough alpha state, with bugs to fix, tweaks to make, and possibly a action item list for the interface and executions of said gameplay miles and miles long. No company (well, almost... the half-way smart ones) wants to show off something that is not ready for the public eye yet. Closer to the end of the year, I bet stabler beta states of the gameplay engine will be ready... will videos be shown then? who knows...

Re:So where's the gameplay? (1)

Mondoz (672060) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401169)

"it was the gameplay, story, and amazing art direction that made it a standout."

At least this gives us a taste of the new game's art direction...

Just knowing they've kept the old 'War never changes' gives me warm fuzzies all over. The old-school retro look of the radio brings back memories of the devices from the first games. Fallout Boy was a nice touch as well. Hopefully that shows they're not forgetting about #1 or 2 in favor of some reboot of the series.

This trailer might not have shown gameplay, but it looks like the soul of the first ones might be in there somewhere.

Re:So where's the gameplay? (1)

The G (7787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19411521)

Oh man. I heard that "War. War never changes..." and it just brought back so many memories right there.

They may yet screw this game up. But keeping that chilling and evocative opening tells me that they aren't completely untouched by the magic -- and utter despair -- of Fallout.

Re:So where's the gameplay? (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404015)

yet another hype video that shows the "engine" - whatever that means."


it means they're not done raping the corpse of your memories. They'll show you in game when they're done with it in 6 months.

Re:So where's the gameplay? (1)

DirePickle (796986) | more than 7 years ago | (#19406409)

It's a teaser video. It's a "Look, we're working on the game!" video. And it's a "See? It's the Ink Spots! We haven't forgotten Fallout's roots!" video. It's not a "Lookit! Gameplay!" video.

With StarCraft 2 and Fallout 3 coming out... (0, Offtopic)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401501)

Owning a Mac Pro never felt so good!

Re:With StarCraft 2 and Fallout 3 coming out... (1)

virgil_disgr4ce (909068) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401591)

Why? Will these games be released for OS X?

Re:With StarCraft 2 and Fallout 3 coming out... (1)

Clock Nova (549733) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401891)

Not likely, but he's set up pretty well to run it with Bootcamp or Parallels.

Re:With StarCraft 2 and Fallout 3 coming out... (1)

DarkJC (810888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401941)

I can't speak for Fallout 3, but Blizzard has always released a native Mac version of their games on the same disc as the Windows release.

Re:With StarCraft 2 and Fallout 3 coming out... (1)

Creepy (93888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404285)

well I can speak for Fallout 3, and Bethesda has never written or had a game ported to mac, at least none that I'm aware of.

according to this, [insidemacgames.com] they are open to it (and Linux), but will not do it themselves unless they get a porting house to make an offer. This makes sense to me because Bethesda uses DirectX and a true port to Mac and/or Linux would require a conversion to OpenGL. I don't know if it's DX9 or DX10, but if its the latter, it may also need the new OpenGL profile due toward the end of this year, as well (and certainly don't expect the game before mid-2009).

Blizzard does concurrent development and testing on Mac and PC, which often is the most cost-effective and profitable, but also has the most expensive up-front costs.

Useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19401543)

That was a big nothing. So they show us some pre-rendered zoom out from a wrecked subway car. Who cares that if it wasn't "outsourced" like the PR guy said? It still tells us nothing about the game other than a release date and who's making it.

Hmmm (1)

anduz (1027854) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401577)

I like the teaser, I didn't want too but I do.

I am however still somewhat doubtful about Bethsoft pulling off another Fallout games, which will be to the liking of us old fanatical fanboys. Interesting narrative, dialog and npcs hasn't excatly been the most delicious thing on the plate in any recent Bethsoft game (if ever) - and those are some of the key aspects you will want to master if you're going to succeed in making a Fallout game. Naturally Bethsoft havn't gotten to the position they are in now by making horribly games - and seing how they're Fallout fans themselves they probably know about these keys without any of us fanboys screaming at them. ;)

Still, the morbid attitude/feel, the wicked approach to morals where everything goes because nothing is really right or wrong and of course the freedom to commit violence hasn't really been mastered by anyone in the gaming industry aside from "Trokia Trio" (Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson). I don't see how Bethsoft will ever handle that, when Black Isle themselves weren't fully capable of doing it in Fallout 2 after the Trokia trio had left to form, well Trokia. :p

There is always hope I suppose, at least this teaser builds a solid foundation for hope. But I, and others like me will likely remain bitter skeptics until having completed the game.

Re:Hmmm (1)

MonorailCat (1104823) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403263)

I disagree, I found the narrative and lore in morrowind very compelling, Oblivion less so unfortunately...

I've never played fallout so I can't comment, although in light of the excitement over 3, 1 and 2 might be a good cheap buy

Re:Hmmm (1)

anduz (1027854) | more than 7 years ago | (#19409637)

I won't despute the lore and the quests being interresting in elderscroll games, some of the stories are even half-decent. Unfortunately nothing ties it together in a good narrative, the dialog is rotten and the NPCs are monotome at best - worse yet they're all goofy and dumb about almost everything that takes place. Of course the latter never truely comes to the test because you can't act completely morbid - and I guess Bethsoft should have the benefit of doubt.

Still, Fallout 1 is one of the few video games with a narrative that could go book or movie and come out rather good. Something no elderscroll game would be capable off, of course Fallout 2 probably couldn't either though I suppose it would make the perfect bad sequel.

Lastly, yes you should buy the original fallout games right now, I still play mine one a regular basis. Just remember to get the correct patches if you get the violated versions - available on http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php [nma-fallout.com] though I guess this would be illegal in a few countries where the government knows better than you.

from the nice-vault-you've-got-there dept (1)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 7 years ago | (#19401715)

did anyone else mentally complete this with:
... be a shame if something were to happen to it.

Maybe it's cause I just got done reading a story on slate about mafiaa hitmen dropping their guns.

Re:from the nice-vault-you've-got-there dept (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19402475)

"Say, this waterchip looks awfully expensive."

Re:from the nice-vault-you've-got-there dept (1)

pNutz (45478) | more than 7 years ago | (#19402695)

"Don't step on it! You'll create the plotline!"

Who cares about game "trailers" (0, Troll)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 7 years ago | (#19402587)

Seriously, who over the age of 14 or so cares about trailers?

Grow up people. Buy or don't buy the game. Quit buying into the hype.

Re:Who cares about game "trailers" (1)

brkello (642429) | more than 7 years ago | (#19403309)

The real question is...who cares about your posts? Who cares about my posts? Yet we still post. Let the fans enjoy their trailer. If you don't care, just don't watch it.

Re:Who cares about game "trailers" (1)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404533)

Now where's the fun in that?

Re:Who cares about game "trailers" (2, Interesting)

mcvos (645701) | more than 7 years ago | (#19409141)

Seriously, who over the age of 14 or so cares about trailers?

Remember that we're not talking about just some game and its gameplay here. We're talking Fallout, which is a game where style and atmosphere is vital. Lots of people were afraid that Bethesda wouldn't be able to get that across, and this trailer lets them show that they "get it". For just some random action game, trailers and pretty movies are meaningless, but in this case and at this moment, a stylish trailer to show the atmosphere is a great idea. Because that's what Fallout is about.

disappointing (1)

sentientbrendan (316150) | more than 7 years ago | (#19404447)

disappointing how short the trailer is... I'd like to get some background. The cities look like they were only just recently destroyed... does this immediately follow the nuclear attack?

Turn-based... (2, Interesting)

Braintrust (449843) | more than 7 years ago | (#19405459)

It can have all the style and charm of the first two games, but if they fiddle with the combat mechanics and move to a twitchy, real-time mode of gameplay... this will make Vault Boy shed radioactive tears.

I've always felt that turn-based combat is what's really lacking in most modern games that disappoint... there are people that play tennis, and there are people that play chess; both great games, but the people who are drawn to crpgs tend to be looking for something a little more like chess, imo.

I play these games to relax and escape... being able to sit and think about my next move, is a luxury unavailable in real-life most of the time.

Here's hoping for turn-based combat remaining in the game.

peace

Unpopular Opinion (1)

atomicstrawberry (955148) | more than 7 years ago | (#19407399)

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but I really hope they modernise the gameplay. I never played Fallout back when it was fresh and current, I was playing all the games based off Bioware's engine - Planescape, Baldur's Gate, etc. I decided to dig up a copy of Fallout a few years back and give it a go since it's such a well-loved game.

The setting is absolutely fantastic, and generally I liked most of the concepts behind it. The gameplay, however, felt incredibly clunky. So much so that I ended up giving up on the game. I can see why people would find the concept so compelling, but the actual execution of the gameplay was like running into a brick wall for me.

Re:Unpopular Opinion (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#19409775)

Fallout 2 fixed MANY of the issues that were seen in Fallout 1. Truthfully, I really don't see any show stopping issues with either game.

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Purpose of the trailer (1)

Taulin (569009) | more than 7 years ago | (#19410313)

I think the reason they made the trailer, and made such a big fuss that it was done in engine, was to show that they are capable of making the Fallout world in 3D. The funny part, at least to me, is they got the greenish-gray hue the first two games had. The thing is, the first two games did that most likely because of lack of a bigger palette. Still looks good, and I think they got at least the looks down. Graphics capabilities will change in a year and half though.

Blue Studios? (1)

GustoGaiden (1080739) | more than 7 years ago | (#19413157)

I think you either mean Blue Sky Studios [blueskystudios.com] , or more likely, Blur Studios [blur.com] , Who were the ones who did the Dawn of War cinematic. Blue Sky does more feature length stuff. Horay for using in game assets and all, but that was pretty unsatisfying for me. I don't think it conveyed enough of the fallout world to get me that excited.
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