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Far-Fetched Time Travel Concept Receives Private Funds

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the if-you're-going-to-make-a-time-machine-do-it-with-some-style dept.

The Almighty Buck 505

WED Fan writes "A University of Washington researcher who couldn't find funds the old fashioned way has raised funds from private parties to continue with his studies of 'time travel'. He is studying the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox. Basically, using spooky action, he wants to be able to use entangled pairs to send messages, not only through space, but also in time. 'As the evidence for this has accumulated, several fairly contorted and unsatisfying efforts have been aimed at solving the puzzle. Cramer has proposed an explanation that doesn't violate the speed of light but does kind of mess with the traditional concept of time.' Despite the implausibility of the science here laypeople have been inspired by the researcher's idea, enough to donate almost $35,000 to his project."

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obligatory (5, Funny)

uolamer (957159) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478563)

Can I get the investors info?

I have a bridge that...
In soviet Russia Time Travel You.
Is this the Lt. Commander Data theory or the Spock theory of time travel?
if you do manage to do this, send me a copy of all the sports results for the next 100 years and history of the stocks, etc.

Seriously.. If this was possible, i can only start to imagine how the wrong people or even the right people could really mess up things with their first little test.

Re:obligatory (5, Insightful)

Intron (870560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478763)

If this worked then there would already be investors lined up who have sent messages to themselves from the future.

Re:obligatory (5, Interesting)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479055)

it could be that you can't send messages back any earlier than the time the message was created, effectively only slowing time down so it take less time for the message to arrive. Less time could be no time at all so the message arrives when it's sent.

This won't allow you to send messages 'back' in time though.

Re:obligatory (5, Funny)

dfiguero (324827) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479121)

Note to self from the future: don't invest in this idea.

Re:obligatory (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478861)

>>if you do manage to do this, send me a copy of all the sports results for the next 100 years and history of the stocks, etc.

It's been awhile since I have read anything about it so I might not be remembering it correctly, but I think there is an interpretation of the Many Worlds/Parallel Universe view of quantum mechanics that a new instance of reality would be created (a new universe) that would effectively provide a level of separation. The info recieved in the past might not be accurate for this new universe, because in this new universe a different future was possible. Or something like that...It has been awhile. I've seen it used to alleviate the paradox of going back in time and killing your grandfather.

Re:obligatory (0, Flamebait)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478915)

The investors' info probably looks a lot like those that gave money for the Creation Museum [creationmuseum.org] . There's a lot more money than intelligence out there.

Its not that far fetched. (5, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478565)

Its not that far fetched.

I invested some money in this guy next week and have been earning a decent return on my investment for the last 3 years.
I did however feel a little shiver as I considered shorting his stock and for some damned reason pictures of my family have started to fade.

Re:Its not that far fetched. (4, Funny)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478753)

According to SEC disclosure statements: "Principal investors, John Tobor, $1,000,000 New Dollars; John Smallberries, loan backed by 400,000 shares of YoyoDyne Propulsion; and one Captain J. Kirk, who hates whales."

So? (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478573)


he wants to be able to use entangled pairs to send messages, not only through space, but also in time.

Big deal, Slashdot has been bringing us news from the past for years!

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478665)

LOL

As The Doctor once said... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478579)

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but, actually, from a non-linear viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.

First Post from 1972 (4, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478585)

Wooo it works!!!

Re:First Post from 1972 (0, Offtopic)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478701)

Wooo it works!!!

And first troll-mod too.
     

Re:First Post from 1972 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479067)

You will fail it!

I'm all for the scientific method... (3, Insightful)

DanQuixote (945427) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478587)


But I also admire folks who can inspire others toward some dream...

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (5, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478757)

The difference between a crackpot and a scientist with a dream is that the scientist still relies on the rigorous application of the scientific method even if their theory is way outside of mainstream. It sounds like this guy is taking the latter tack. He has experiments in mind, and is completely open to the idea that they may fail.

You don't have to pick between dreaming and scientific rigor. The scientific method is how you turn your dreams into a reality -- if reality is ammenable to your dreams.

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (1)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478889)

Unfortunately $35k won't take him very far. He will probably need at least 10x that much.

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479053)

If $35k buys him one experiment that disproves his theory, then he's saved 9x that much. If his experiment shows that his theory produces reproducible results, then he's that much closer to convincing people he's not a nut.

The question is whether $35k is enough to fund one experiment.

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (4, Informative)

WalksOnDirt (704461) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478917)

John Cramer has been writing science articles for the science fiction magazine Analog for some time. They are available online here: http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV [washington.edu]

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478973)

Somebody probably watched this discovery 'science' channel video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8 [youtube.com]

It was right after the UFO's uncovered and just before bigfoot.

Re:I'm all for the scientific method... (1)

dotspiral (1114559) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479087)

The problem is that these sorts of activities are akin to investment scams, fleecing idealistic but perhaps more naive people.

ROI (3, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478591)

If time travel can be produced, it's worth (asymptotically) nearly any amount of investmemnt to get it.

Re:ROI (5, Interesting)

timster (32400) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479003)

Nah, it's not worth anything. If time travel is ever developed, the universe enters an unstable state. Stability isn't returned until a scenario occurs where time travel is never discovered in the first place.

This process takes no time (obviously), so any discovery of time travel is immediately undone. Actually, this happens all the, er, time.

Re:ROI (2, Interesting)

squidfood (149212) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479051)

If time travel can be produced, it's worth (asymptotically) nearly any amount of investmemnt to get it.


It is extraordinarily sad to me that the "geeks" of this forum are considering this a financial investment rather than a scientific investment. I am a scientist, and I know that the logic of grants and funding agencies is a game that can be far removed from science, supportive of the status quo and the tenured. For $2-10K, if I had it lying around, I'd happily play "funding reviewer" in the hope of funding something small but with good potential.

This "private investment" model is intriguing, it's much more accessible than the mammoth granting agencies, perhaps better for the public than funneling public money through the NSF. It creates direct communication between scientists and interested supporters. Especially as the article quotes seem to indicate the investors are intelligent - the pooling of a small amount of money for a credible scientific result is to be encouraged. Though I do recognize one must be careful, it can be a fine line sometimes between this credible (though bleeding edge and possibly wrong) research and snake oil.

And small investments help: a year of a grad student can get a lot done. Well, with some grad students.

Re:ROI (3, Insightful)

cowscows (103644) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479117)

Not to mention that there are plenty of people out there for which $35,000 is really a drop in the bucket. Giving that money to this guy is most likely money wasted, but if that money was most likely just going to sit in the bank with a few other tens of millions of dollars until you die, then you haven't really lost anything worth worrying about anyways.

If you've got more money than you know what to do with, why not take a couple long-shot bets?

Re:ROI (1)

jbarr (2233) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479133)

If time travel can be produced, it's worth (asymptotically) nearly any amount of investmemnt to get it.
The glory and gain will still be short-lived as you'll still die just like the rest of us.

Come on... (4, Funny)

vurg (639307) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478597)

If I ever start thinking about building a time machine, I would make a promise to myself beforehand that my first plan of action is to send a message back in time to right now telling me that it works. I'm still waiting for that message.

Re:Come on... (1)

rwhamann (598229) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478671)

Your future self probably suffered some memory loss when you fell off the toilet, so you forget to send the message.

Re:Come on... (1)

nonsequitor (893813) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478805)

Maybe you just need to look harder for the message. Go watch "The Number 23" and tell me if you haven't been trying to contact yourself from the future.

Re:Come on... (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478877)

In one theoretical model of time travel, you can just go on waiting, because you haven't sent it yet so it won't have happened. If you actually get to that point in the future and actually get back here to pass yourself a note, then you'll suddenly "have gotten it" back now, and any resulting headaches, paradoxes, failed history reports, and dead grandfathers will be your own problem.

If this works... (0, Redundant)

Organic Brain Damage (863655) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478615)

...then it's all over for Powerball. [I hate the minimum time between Reply/Submit]

for chists sake (4, Informative)

brunascle (994197) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478619)

how many times must it be explained, you cannot send information FTL using quantum entanglement. more specifically, you cannot send information using quantum entanglement. you can only use it together with a classical communication channel.

you'd think these people wouldve already known that.

Re:for chists sake (2, Informative)

tylersoze (789256) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478747)

Uhh this isn't FTL, the information is sent through advanced waves at exactly the speed of light.

Re:for chists sake (1)

brunascle (994197) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478957)

true. what i said still stands though, just take out the words FTL. quantum entanglement is often described (including in the article) in ways that make people think there is information transfer going on, which leads people to look for ways to harness it. and it always fails because they misunderstood what was going on in the first place.

Actually, it IS FTL. (1)

Rachel Lucid (964267) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479111)

Logically, the best way to make FTL communications is not to make them beat the speed of light per se, but to make them able to travel back in time so they APPEAR to be FTL when in fact the messages sent took far longer to get to their destination.

This would give us communication that appears to be FTL, but with the consequence that we still can't send organic materials back in time the same way ('cause they'd probably age ridiculously by the time they got there), AND it would get around the pesky paradoxes of traveling back in time since you're never sending anything later than what time it already currently is - The message is the only thing traveling back in time, in other words.

Re:for chists sake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478905)

How many times must people on slashdot be told to the RTFA? You'd think these people would've already known that.

I am already Half way there. (5, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478621)

I can send messages to the future but I am having sending messages back.

#/bin/sh
 
#send a message 5 minutes in the future
sleep 300
echo "Hello from the Past"
But this doesn't seem to work yet

#/bin/sh
sleep -300
echo "Hello from the Future"

Re:I am already Half way there. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478663)

Um yes I know I even did a preview but I forgot to start my scrips with #! my bad.

Re:I am already Half way there. (1)

kat_skan (5219) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478871)

Actually, it only seems like it isn't working because the timelines are diverging. Keep trying, eventually you will randomly be on the one where you receive your message!

Re:I am already Half way there. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478939)

Yeah, but it works in LOLCODE:

HAI
BRB -300
VISIBLE "HAI FROM FEWCHUR LOL"
KTHXBYE

Re:I am already Half way there. (1)

HappySmileMan (1088123) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478963)

If this doesn't get modded as funny instead of informative I've given up all hope on humanity

Re:I am already Half way there. (1)

jalet (36114) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479027)

Just try this one instead :

echo "Hello from the past" | (sleep 300 && /bin/cat)

Re:I am already Half way there. (4, Funny)

Panaflex (13191) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479045)

The reason it doesn't appear to work is the output happened before you even ran it, unless you didn't run it, See?? .... Look in your shell history silly man ...

>:-*-D

Re:I am already Half way there. (4, Funny)

D-Cypell (446534) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479047)

Actually my grandfather did develop a negative sleep function but I got so pissed off with my great grandchildren pestering me for an early inheiritance I went back and shot the bastard.

Re:I am already Half way there. (1)

MenTaLguY (5483) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479141)

Heh. I wrote a Ruby Quiz problem [rubyquiz.com] on just that a while back.

Sadly, nobody submitted a solution involving time travel. :(

Themselves (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478661)

Have them fund themselves. They can go back to the 60's and invest in Intel.
       

In that case please.... (1)

Burb (620144) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478797)

Tell them to go back to the late seventies and tell them that the 8086 architecture is too simple and must be radically complexicated. Oh, they've already done that.

Not news (1, Troll)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478667)

The story is really just,

"Another investor rooked into making a stupid investment through investment pitch X."

Individuals invest in stupid things all the time. Like workers who just read Slashdot all day. ;-)

Request for Funds (0, Redundant)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478677)

Hello,

My project consists of sending messages back in time. Although this is proving very expensive to accomplish at this moment, I'll pay you off as soon as I send back the first winning set of Powerball numbers from the future. Please send money to me now. Because of past banking "misunderstandings", cheques are best made out to Cash. Thank you!

Sincerely,
R. U. Stupid

Does it mention *which* direction? (1)

AZScotsman (962881) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478703)

I mean, you can't count Mail Server Lag as sending messages into the future.... Right?

List of investors? (3, Insightful)

MECC (8478) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478709)

I wonder if there's a way to get the names of the people who gave him money, and their contact info.

Re:List of investors? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478765)


I wonder if there's a way to get the names of the people who gave him money, and their contact info.

DEAR SIR,
This letter may come as a surprise as we have never met. A mutual associate of ours, DR. JOHN CRAMER, has recently received $35,000 (Thirty Five Thousand) dollars for investment in his time machine....

Re:List of investors? (1)

jalefkowit (101585) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479035)

That's easy. Just go forward in time a few years and find them in the bankruptcy notices.

Entangled pairs? (1)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478715)

I thought you said NOT to cross the streams!

I can prove that it won't work (3, Interesting)

14erCleaner (745600) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478735)

If he could send messages back in time, he could just send his impoverished past self some winning Lotto numbers, thereby funding the project far more than $35K.

Of course, the past impoverished researcher would have to build a receiver first, requiring funds up front. Maybe that's what he's doing now. Keep an eye on how this guy's "luck" goes in the, um, future.

Re:I can prove that it won't work (1)

Fry-kun (619632) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479091)

Actually, using this method you can only send messages as far back as you created the apparatus for reading those messages - and this project is apparently about creating it.
Still pretty sure it won't work, though ;)

Causality anyone? (0, Troll)

nweaver (113078) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478737)

If relativity is correct (and even possibly if it isn't), backwards-in-time communication really REALLY F@#)(*s up causality. Heck, Faster Than Light (FTL) communication at all F@#)(*s up causality.

The EPR paradox, in particular, can't actually communicate information, as you can't actually tell which of the two sides measured it first (or at all), preventing FTL communication and saving causality. (Of course, simultinaity doesn't make sense either, thanks to relativity, but causality does).

This guy sounds like a good snake-oil salesman.

Self followup.... (1)

nweaver (113078) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478781)

OK, he doesn't seem QUITE so loony. But I remember seeing some nice proofs how EPR doesn't violate causality, because it can't transmit classical information.

But I don't remember how those proofs work, because quantum gives me a headache.

Time travel is impossible. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478739)

Time is used, it cannot be reused. Is the Universe expanding into nothing or is it expanding into time (existence itself)?

Can Ziggy help?

Push it to the limit (2, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478749)

I wonder if investors' safety is guaranteed. [ytmnd.com]

The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478759)

Isn't the basic premise that if sending messages back to the past is possible, we'd have received some by now? Seems like that's the same type of premise w/SETI as well. If there was intelligent life somewhere in the galaxy, we'd have already picked up the messages, unless of course, we're already the most advanced life forms.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

jjh37997 (456473) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478897)

The thing is, if the man is correct, his device will be able to send messages back through time. But it will only be able to send messages back as far as when the device was first created. As a result, the reason we've never received messages from the future is because he has not built his device yet. Think of it as a time radio or a time bridge.... messages from the future can't arrive until those of us in the "past" finish work on our end.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478913)

Maybe it's possible that if there is other life they have a Prime Directive or something equivalent?

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478953)

We don't have a listening device for backward time communication so we can't receive it. Lets pretend radio was a way to send messages back in time, however we are in the stone age before anyone knows about EM radiation and no one can hear it.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478969)

Maybe we haven't set up a proper receiver yet. Just as with SETI, you could detect our signals from the moon, or any other extraterrestrial location, but just because nobody is looking doesn't mean the messages aren't there. With SETI we're assuming that the signals are there, we just have to point our antennas at the right spot.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

daskinil (991205) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478993)

Um, not quite. We are still discovering new planets and solar systems constantly. If there were other life forms, just as intelligent as us (we can't even travel to mars mind you), Do you really think they would have found us by now? Its not much of a proof saying intelligent life doesn't exist because they haven't found us. Exspecially when our "view" of distant stars may be millions of years old.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478995)

From what I understand, most (not necessarily this one, I didn't cheat and RTFA) send-messages-into-the-past theories limit the amount of time the information can be sent back to when the first device for this is activated. So, if this works and he should likely get flooded with messages as soon as it's finished. And on the SETI thing - it *could* be that intelligent life is just waiting for us to break the speed of light and get basic warp technology before contacting us. While there's logic to what you're saying, I don't think your point is really definitive.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479101)

While there's logic to what you're saying, I don't think your point is really definitive.
I know, I'm just a layman with a passing interest in sci-fi, space travel, etc. While I highly doubt there's a "prime directive" for any alien civilizations out there, I think something that could be equally as possible is like with the aliens in Ender's Game. They communicated telepathically instead of through the radio spectrum, so there was no way for us to receive their communication. A "Prime Directive" might be in the best interest of any alien civilization, as they wouldn't want us to get their advanced technologies.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479033)

Yeah but this implies that the standard most basic form of communcation using EMR is not just the most basic standard form of communication for our world but also other worlds as well. Who says that our technology and the steps we aquired it would parallel another species on another planet with different elements abundent than the ones we had/have? In other words...if there is an intelligent life form out there...they would adapt to their environment and nothing...no law of God or law of science says their first form of communication or future forms of communication must be radiation of some type.

Re:The problem with Time Travel, etc. (1)

pyite69 (463042) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479109)

No, because when you first entangle the pairs, they are at the same point in time.

Then, you move one of them really fast for awhile, and then relativity would separate them.

This means that the pairs would have had to be entangled many years ago in order to use them now. Time travel may be possible in the future, but it would not allow you to go back to an arbitrary point in time

John Cramer (2, Interesting)

FredK (140786) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478777)

I've wondered why so few seem to pay attention to his ideas. He has offered the only explanation for the weirdness of quantum mechanics that makes any sense to me. See http://laputan.blogspot.com/2003_09_21_laputan_arc hive.html [blogspot.com] for Carver Mead's take on it.
Fred

Re:John Cramer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479099)

In four years, they haven't corrected the grievous spelling error: "So without further adieu". In my eyes this site lost all credibility. I mean really now, "adieu"? If you're gonna try to use fancy expressions, you could make a little effort to spell them correctly instead of coming across as a retard. "Adieu" means goodbye in French, perhaps he meant "ado"?

Haven't they watched Bill and Ted? (1)

ebcdic (39948) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478789)

Why don't they just get the money from under the book on the shelf where they're going to put it once they've made megabucks?

Business plan:

Profit!
???
Invent time travel

Good idea (4, Interesting)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478803)

I find the idea of public funded science research heart warming. No need for the government or the science establishment to get involved. If an individual wants to contribute good for him and the researcher.

I care not if I think the researcher is not all there, it's not my money.

For instance Robert Bussard is trying to raise funds to continue his fusion research. Now I don't think he spent money wisely in the past, I don't think he was too smart in his dealings with the DoD, I do not think he has solved all the problem. But I do think he is the closest to cheap fusion. Should I fund him?

My only stipulation is that everything must be published, not only the research but also the money trail. I want to see where the dork spent $10k on software.

Sounds Clinton-esque... (1)

Bob-taro (996889) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478837)

Cramer has proposed an explanation that doesn't violate the speed of light but does kind of mess with the traditional concept of time.
Isn't time travel impossible?
Well, that depends on your definition of "time" ... and "travel" ... and "is".

Remember, folks... (2, Insightful)

InfinityWpi (175421) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478847)

Not every crackpot is really a brilliant genius... but almost all brilliant geniuses were, at one point, considered to be crackpots.

Investment chain (1)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478849)

I'm thinking the local pub will receive about $35,000 in funding over the next year or so...

Spooky action and entagled pairs... (1)

phloe (264566) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478851)

...what did he need the money for again?

oh, right - to travel into the future - 30 seconds a time I bet.

the answer is .. (1)

rs232 (849320) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478859)

The answer is 47 ..

Re:the answer is .. (1)

u-bend (1095729) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479083)

OK, uh, [47.net] that's kinda messed up...

My future self just phoned me... (1)

monkeyboythom (796957) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478867)

and said don't bother. Zombie-robot Microsoft President-for-Life Ballmer stuns the world of 2021 that he indeed owns the patents for time travel (both Windows and Linux versions).

Instead my future self tells me that I am very wealthy because I [will] license my genome to some guy named Palpatine...

First post using time travel (1)

garoush (111257) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478869)

His research actually works! And the prof for it is this first post which was posted yesterday BEFORE this article showed up on /.

The Vulcan Science Directorate... (1)

DirtySouthAfrican (984664) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478873)

...has deemed time travel impossible.

Transactional interpretation isn't crazy (2, Informative)

tylersoze (789256) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478879)

This guy isn't crazy, the idea of using advanced waves goes all the way back to Feynman (see Wheeler-Feynman absorber theory which is what this is based upon). This merely another interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. All he's trying to do is see if we can experimentally verify it as producing different results than the "standard" interpretations. It's called science people, look into it. Sometimes crazy ideas turn out to be true, you don't know until, you know, you run experiments. As crazy ideas go, this one isn't that off the wall, it's based on actual physics. There's no FTL involved, the transactions all occur at the speed of light through advanced and retarded waves.

http://www.npl.washington.edu/npl/int_rep/ti_over/ ti_over.html [washington.edu]
http://www.npl.washington.edu/npl/int_rep/tiqm/TI_ toc.html [washington.edu]
http://www.npl.washington.edu/npl/int_rep/dtime/no de2.html [washington.edu]

Re:Transactional interpretation isn't crazy (2, Informative)

DirtySouthAfrican (984664) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478971)

And for those who don't want to read all that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpr etation [wikipedia.org] It sounds very much like conventioanl QFT viewed through 1930s eyes... Especially the part about waves cancelling. Expectation values of commutation relations vanish (decay exponentially) outside the lightcone where they are acausal.

It is not possible (1)

ravishjunk (618123) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478931)

if it were, people from the far far far future would have traveled and we would have known about. Or it is possible that during the time time travel is invented people found that the time now and the past is so boring that no one wanted to visit

Man, everyone knows (1)

Jimmy King (828214) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478937)

the Einstein-Rosen-Podolsky bridge doesn't allow time travel. It allows you to travel to parallel universes but at the SAME time as it is in your universe.

Perfect target for the Facebook group: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19478951)

"For every 100 who join by yesterday, I'll donate $1 to time travel research"
http://osu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2229376042 [facebook.com]

were all time travelers (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478961)

We all are time travelers and that clock on the wall is the speedometer...

Seriously though i doubt time travel is even possible, this guy is whacked...

I'm putting some money in my will (1)

samuel4242 (630369) | more than 7 years ago | (#19478975)

It should arrive yesterday if this thing really works.

Information is TimeTravelling, not phisical matter (1)

C0deJunkie (309293) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479013)

What you need to realize is that the underlying theory (entangled particles) permits the information to travel acress time, non the matter. In fact it permits the information a a particular particle "state" to trave trhough time. That's quite different from making phisical matter to decompose and appear in the future or in the past.

First (1)

charlieo88 (658362) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479015)

Time travel? Sheesh, the lengths some people will go to, to get the first comment on /.

If quantum entanglement is real... (1)

pyite69 (463042) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479031)

then this is a great idea. It is not like you will be able to create a wormhole or anything, but maybe you could theoretically use it to send morse code to the future or past.

He fails (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479041)

If he was successful in sending messages through time, we'd know about it already!

The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Bridge? (1)

pboyd2004 (860767) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479057)

If this is the same thing as the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Bridge. Then they'll just end up bouncing from one slightly different earth to the next. And then they get to run into Kromags...

Maybe I'm Old Fashioned.... (1)

slas6654 (996022) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479075)

...since when did the federal government become sugar daddy to the university research world. Its crazy that we, as Americans, have come to accept the financing of every crackpot research project vis-a-vis the Federal Treasury. Why is it that every university in America finds it absolutely imperative to bankrupt the country on crazy ideas?

Why is it so remarkable that a scientist has to go to the private sector for money ?

RIAA Funded (2, Funny)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479081)

"This country puts a lot more money into things that seem to me much crazier than this," said Mitch Rudman, a music industry executive in Las Vegas whose family foundation donated $20,000 to the experiment.

Oh no! This must be a conspiracy to allow RIAA hit-men to go back into time and take out the Internet before it was born.

So that's what they use all that money for (1)

DefenderThree (920248) | more than 7 years ago | (#19479107)

"This country puts a lot more money into things that seem to me much crazier than this," said Mitch Rudman, a music industry executive in Las Vegas whose family foundation donated $20,000 to the experiment. "It's outrageous to me that talented scientists have to go looking for a few bucks to do anything slightly outside the box."
All these years I've been wondering where all the money from RIAA record sales actually goes. Now I know.

Wohooo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479115)

I did it, I did it!

-- Hiro

mod D0wn (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19479139)

market share. Red TodaY. It's about recent Sys Admin be 'very poor7y and suggesting engineering project = 36400 FreeBSD Pooper. Nothing
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