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Giant Dinosaur Bird Discovered

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the einstein-looks-scared-of-the-big-birdy dept.

Science 166

Cyclist110 writes "The BBC has the story of the discovery, in Inner Mongolia, of a Dinosaur bird twice the size of a man and weighing in at over 3000 lbs. From the article: 'Chinese researchers uncovered the fossilised remains of the flightless giant in the Erlian basin in Inner Mongolia. The researchers had originally thought they had found the bones of a tyrannosaur — the group of dinosaurs to which T. rex belongs — due to their large size.'"

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Discredited (3, Insightful)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527835)

So this will be discredited when?

More importantly... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528077)

These may be the mortal remains of cmdrtaco. Scientists, I call on you give us a conclusive answer.

Re:Discredited (4, Informative)

mark0 (750639) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528177)

Why is the parent modded down? There is a long history of fake fossils [paleodirect.com] coming out of China. The posting is, perhaps, a bit terse, but hardly a troll.

Re:Discredited (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528265)

Did you bother to read the white text in the website you referred before you jump to the yellow text? While at least, all Chinese fossil out side of China are illegal, because exporting fossil is forbidden by Chinese law. We can not come to a conclusion that all of Chinese fossils out side of China are fake, but there is a big chance.

As fossil discovered in China by scientist, your source said "China has an immense scientific wealth of genuine fossil deposits."

Re:Discredited (1)

mark0 (750639) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528289)

Did you bother to read the white text in the website you referred before you jump to the yellow text?
Yes, of course I did.

While at least, all Chinese fossil out side of China are illegal, because exporting fossil is forbidden by Chinese law. We can not come to a conclusion that all of Chinese fossils out side of China are fake, but there is a big chance.
We aren't at odds here. There are plenty of legitimate fossils in China. At the same time, there are plenty of fakes that hit the news are are show to be bunk. I believe that shows that you are right, I am right, and the parent posting in this thread simply refers to that history of bunk that overshadows the legitimate.

Re:Discredited (0)

tacocat (527354) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528343)

I can't comment on any of that, but I find it difficult to believe that you can have a 3,000 pound bird that is only twice the size of man being capable of flight. Rather it might be capable of plummet, thereby making it extinct.

That's like a flying SUV only the size of a Triumph TR-7. It makes for a very dense bird.

Re:Discredited (3, Informative)

HeroreV (869368) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529097)

The article says it was flightless. You know what else says it was flightless? The summary. Can't you at least read the summary?

Re:Discredited (2, Funny)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528381)

We can not come to a conclusion that all of Chinese fossils out side of China are fake, but there is a big chance.

I have bought fossils from China. They sell everything over there no matter what they say. I had a Chinese trilobite embedded in a slab of sedimentary rock. Then my house burned down. When I went back to salvage it later I made my huge scientific discovery: trilobites were made of plastic!

Re:Discredited (2, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529001)

trilobites were made of plastic!

Clear evidence of intelligent design.

Re:Discredited (1)

mcpkaaos (449561) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529057)

Sounds plausible. Most ID believers are themselves made up of mostly plastic, so why not a 6,000 year old bird?

Re:Discredited (1)

cammoblammo (774120) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529749)

My knowledge of Asian politics and geography is a little hazy, and I haven't read TFA, but the summary says that fossils come from Mongolia. So if these are coming out of China, the researchers must have taken them there first...

Re:Discredited (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19529753)

Why is the parent modded down?

Because "Black September" has, figuratively, with the explosive increase of popularity of the 'net, extended to every core-blog and with it dragged down every democratically-oriented, user-governed site. Slashdot, once a bastion for those on the right of the bell curve, has like everything else been corrupted by an influx of warm bodies, mostly young and unthinking, molded by the irresistible siren song of peer pressure, predictably cowed into succumbing to herd morality.

Note that the GPP was modded up only in the wake of your criticism and the modding-up of such.

00100010 (0, Flamebait)

Taco Meat (1104291) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529155)

This will be discredited when you Americans learn that Brahma and Vishnu did the nasty and out came the world. Since Brahma has a super long pecker, though, he harmed vishnu in the process and caused some rectal bleeding, and when that coagulated the dinosaurs were born. Then vishnu and brahma called up Saraswati and had a threesome. Since that's not her thing, she refused to come but later hooked up with some indian chick named Breena. That's how the birdlike dinosaurs came about. See, it's really quite simple.

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Creationists (0, Flamebait)

Iam9376 (1096787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527845)

I'm more interested in how the Creationists will attempt to explain this one

Perhaps they'll claim it was man's best friend?

meh.

Re:Creationists (1)

TheFlyingWonka (1107171) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527863)

It was obviously some sort of dragon.

Re:Creationists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528283)

Yep thats what I think :)

Re:Creationists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19527877)

No they'll claim that it's really a very big turkey and that over time their species is getting smaller. [evolving how ironic] or even better it was killed by the great non-existent flood that also killed their coconut-eating T-rexs.

Re:Creationists (1)

Iam9376 (1096787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527915)

I always wondered about the "great flood".

I fully accept I may be wrong, but it is my understanding, if you completely submerge a plant of any kind (ie: a Tree), doesn't that kill the plant.

With that reasoning, wouldn't all plant life have died as a result of this "great flood"?

Re:Creationists (5, Insightful)

jeiler (1106393) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527971)

"With that reasoning, wouldn't all plant life have died as a result of this "great flood"?

Yes, it would kill the plant life ... but that doesn't matter, because they'll think of some "reason" why it wouldn't, even if they have to fall back on "Goddidit." Creationism (like any other a priori position) does not rely on logic, reason, or evidence.

That's not to say that I feel that religion or faith or a priori knowledge is worthless--heck, I'm a theist myself. But (IMHO) when a person's gotten to the point that they'll explain away fundamental facts--as Creationists attempt to do--then argument is a waste of time.

For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.

Re:Creationists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528097)

Yes, there is no plant life underwater.

None at all.

Re:Creationists (1)

Iam9376 (1096787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528167)

That's not the point however, the plants that live underwater are designed to.

Trees for instance, do not exist underwater, and I'm sure that any underwater plant produces oxygen.

Re:Creationists (1)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528259)

"the plants that live underwater are designed to.

You may want to rephrase that - or attribute the "design" to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. (unless you're in favor of "Intelligent Design" and Cretionism).

Re:Creationists (1)

Iam9376 (1096787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528557)

Why must the word "design" imply "intelligent design" ?

You could just as easily stipulate that the plants evolved into that 'design'.

For all I (we) know plants originated underwater and evolved out onto land.

meh.

Re:Creationists (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528605)

How about seeds? They can survive being submerged for quite a while. And no, plants don't automatically die under water. I have a bottom field that floods out every spring for several weeks at a time and I have never had to plant grass or shrubs on it. It is protected from a fast moving current since the stream that floods it is small and the flood runs over a dike so you don't have all the plant life eroding or washing away.

I guess dieing out might be a possible and probably is a fact. However I'm not sure how long this would take. I know Fescue grass, turnips, chicory, wild peas, and chufas all with survive being submerged for two or three weeks at a time. I use this field specifically for hunting and have all those plants in it. As for god did it? I don't care to touch that. I'm just sure that plants don't necessarily die off after being under water like animals would. I'm guessing they can last a lot longer then we think.

Re:Creationists (1)

jeiler (1106393) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529209)

How about seeds? They can survive being submerged for quite a while.

Some seeds can--some can't. Even for those that can ... it could take weeks or months for the relatively fast-growing grasses to recover, but years for things like trees.

And no, plants don't automatically die under water.

I'm used to discussing these issues with YEC "Biblical Literalists," so remember you're talking about a whole year under water--and you're not just dealing with the water itself, you're also dealing with the pressure of all that water weighing down on the plants, the lack of sunlight, the absence of the normal reproductive cycle, the lack of pollinating insects. Even if your trees survived, your annuals are gone ... and with only two of each pollinating insects (for those plants that need insects to pollinate), and the necessary wait of perhaps several year for the recovery of the pollinating animals.

The big problem is that, no matter what possibilities one brings up that certain things might have survived a worldwide flood (and no matter what evidence is used to counter those possibilities), the topic is not one that will be solved by debate. When someone believes in proposition X as strongly as YECs believe in Biblical literality, there is literally no amount of evidence in the world that will change their mind. And I don't mean that as an insult--for most (perhaps all) of humanity, concepts that are accepted as "faith issues" cannot be rationally critiqued. When we believe in something that strongly, we will reject any and all evidence that contradicts those beliefs.

I read a study somewhere (can't find it now) that the brain will reward itself for defending its beliefs--the pleasure center of the brain is stimulated by justifying one's beliefs, even if one has to deny facts to do so. The context of the study was political: the subjects would be shown politicians that they favored doing things that they politically opposed, and if the person could suppress the memory of the politician saying something they disagreed with, the limbic center of the brain was stimulated. Evidently, we as human beings are hardwired to hold fast to our beliefs ... even if we have to turn a blind eye to the facts to do so.

Re:Creationists (1)

mixtape5 (762922) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529617)

I'm used to discussing these issues with YEC "Biblical Literalists," so remember you're talking about a whole year under water--and you're not just dealing with the water itself, you're also dealing with the pressure of all that water weighing down on the plants, the lack of sunlight, the absence of the normal reproductive cycle, the lack of pollinating insects. Even if your trees survived, your annuals are gone ... and with only two of each pollinating insects (for those plants that need insects to pollinate), and the necessary wait of perhaps several year for the recovery of the pollinating animals.
According to the Bible the flood did not last a year, 40 days and 40 nights. Or about 1.3 months. Also...couldn't there have been a stash of seed on the arc as well? The ones that can't survive underwater simply could have been replanted.

Re:Creationists (1)

cammoblammo (774120) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529721)

No, the flood lasted for 150 days (Genesis 7:24). The rain that caused the flood lasted for forty days and forty nights.

Of course, the biblical story of the flood is an amalgamation of at least two separate stories, so there is certainly room for movement there.

Re:Creationists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19527975)

Depends on how you define the "Great Flood". Many will say that the flood was localized to the known civilized world at the time while others will say that it was indeed a global flood. Now I don't know much about plants either but needless to say plant life would be fine if it was localized. Although even if the parent plant was completely submerged I'd think the possibility of the plants' seeds surviving and taking root later on would still be pretty good.

It's pretty simple (I'm a Creationist myself) (5, Funny)

EaglemanBSA (950534) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528087)

Well, it's pretty simple, actually. I believe in some way, shape or form, God created the thing. Maybe He made it evolve, maybe He made it appear out of thin air...essentially I don't know, and don't need to. Creationism and science aren't necessarily exclusive. I simply believe that the scientific reasons behind what happens exist at the behest of a supreme being.

Re:It's pretty simple (I'm a Creationist myself) (2)

Cheezymadman (1083175) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528211)

So you're basically saying "I don't care how it happened, all I know is that God made it do whatever it did." Am I about right?

Re:It's pretty simple (I'm a Creationist myself) (1, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528865)

I simply believe that ...
Based on....?

Re:It's pretty simple (I'm a Creationist myself) (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19529335)

Based on what his parents and the church beat into him from childhood. Not that their fairy tales are of any consequence in the real world (apart from holy wars and anti-gay violence).

Re:Creationists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528195)

God put it there to test us. 8-P

Re:Creationists (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528365)

I'm more interested in how the Creationists will attempt to explain this one

"Big Daddy" God had a hunkerin' for fried chicken, and KFC was too small for him.
     

Re:Creationists (1)

Ticklemonster (736987) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528459)

It was created to dupe people, duh. (sorry, that just leaped out at me, so I had to put it here, please don't troll me!!!)

I am thinking.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528495)

...some killer drumsticks that would be a hit at any SCA wingding, and family sized omelets! A *big* family!

Re:Creationists (0, Offtopic)

--daz-- (139799) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528773)

This is somewhat on-topic, please bear with me...

First, let's establish that 'Creationists' don't necessarily deny Evolution.

What you're mostly referring to are Evangelical Protestant Bible-only Christians.

'Christian', for 1,500 years meant 'Roman Catholic' (or, after 1,200 years Catholic or Orthodox, very very similar).

After the Reformation, many Christians threw authority out the window and started wondering around in Theology making stuff up as they went along and now we have Bible-only Christians that think every word is LITERALLY (as opposed to LITERALISTICALLY which is what most rational, thinking people read the Bible as) the absolute direct translation of God's will (despite their lose, error-prone translations into English, etc). These people think the Universe was created in precisely 6 24-hour periods and think (I'm not kidding, I heard one say this) that Christ himself use the King James Version to quote scripture. Using LITERAL interpretation, they would also think that 'Raining Cats and Dogs' literally means that canines and felines were falling from the sky.

(again, bear with me, I'm going to bring this back on topic, I swear)

Proper Christianity, that is Christianity that stuck with what Christ intended and with the proper Apostolic Authority and proper scriptural interpretation based on ACCURATE translations of the Bible (i.e. the Roman Catholic Church and the Greek/Russian/Etc Orthodox Church), do NOT interpret the Bible this way, and instead interpret LITERALISTICALY which is to say that 'Raining cats and dogs' has a specific literalistic meaning and is not intended to be interpreted literally.

Now, here we go: True Christians know that God created the Universe according to his own design in a specific fashion in a specific order and that the FULL details are NOT included in Genesis.

It's ENTIRELY possible that when Genesis talks about the 6th day God made animals, it means 'after 400 million years, vertebrate lifeforms evolved from invertebrates'.

The Catholic Church does not specifically deny nor promote Evolution (it's possible there's an even more complete and compelling theory that fleshes out some of the problems with Evolution).

So, please don't lump 'Creationists' (true Authority Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc) in with off-in-the-wilderness Evangelical Christians who are making things up and interpreting the Bible in a theological vacuum.

Re:Creationists (0, Troll)

Taco Meat (1104291) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529199)

I am of the Bahai faith, so I don't know much about yours.

If you don't believe your own holy book, why not find a new religion? Or maybe just stop trying and do what you feel is right?

I am not kidding, Americans are a bunch of lemmings.

Re:Creationists (1)

oddman (204968) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529317)

Where in the above post does it say that we don't believe our own holy book? The point is that there are different ways to read the book. Some of those ways are more rational than others.

As for us being lemmings, do you follow a unique version of your faith? Did someone teach it to you? Is your family Bahai, your community? Why aren't you a lemming, too?

Re:Creationists (1)

mixtape5 (762922) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529573)

After the Reformation, many Christians threw authority out the window and started wondering around in Theology making stuff up as they went along and now we have Bible-only Christians that think every word is LITERALLY (as opposed to LITERALISTICALLY which is what most rational, thinking people read the Bible as) the absolute direct translation of God's will (despite their lose, error-prone translations into English, etc).
First of all, "wondering around in Theology making stuff up" is a very interesting statement considering the rest of your post. How do you suppose the people who think the 6 days of creation mentioned in the Bible did happen however they took place over millions of years arrived at that conclusion? Another problem I have with your opening sentence is that you claim the Christians who have thrown away the authority of the Bible are the ones who believe it...this doesn't even make sense from a non-religious standpoint.

I will concede to you and agree that the Bible inevitably looses some of its meaning when it is translated into any language other than its original. However, you forget that it was translated from something, and most theologians do not open up a copy of the KJV and go solely off of its translation. Many Bible schools offer courses in ancient Greek and Hebrew, enabling their students to analyze the original laguage texts as well.

These people think the Universe was created in precisely 6 24-hour periods and think (I'm not kidding, I heard one say this) that Christ himself use the King James Version to quote scripture. Using LITERAL interpretation, they would also think that 'Raining Cats and Dogs' literally means that canines and felines were falling from the sky.
Can I ask you why it is so hard to believe that a supreme being could create the universe in *only* 6 24-hour days? In addition I encourage you to examine this paragraph about the six literal days:

When Moses, under the inspiration of God, compiled the account of creation in Genesis 1, he used the Hebrew word yôm for 'day'. He combined yôm with numbers ('first day', 'second day', 'third day', etc.) and with the words 'evening and morning', and the first time he employed it he carefully defined the meaning of yôm (used in this way) as being one night/day cycle (Genesis 1:5). Thereafter, throughout the Bible, yôm used in this way always refers to a normal 24-hour day.2,3 There is thus a prima facie case that, when God used the word yôm in this way, He intended to convey that the days of creation were 24 hours long. (source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/da ys.asp [answersingenesis.org] )

Proper Christianity, that is Christianity that stuck with what Christ intended and with the proper Apostolic Authority and proper scriptural interpretation based on ACCURATE translations of the Bible (i.e. the Roman Catholic Church and the Greek/Russian/Etc Orthodox Church), do NOT interpret the Bible this way, and instead interpret LITERALISTICALY which is to say that 'Raining cats and dogs' has a specific literalistic meaning and is not intended to be interpreted literally.
I would love to know what "ACCURATE translations of the Bible" the Roman Catholic Church and the Greek/Russian/Etc Orthodox Church use that is not available to any Bible scholar. Claiming that "Proper Christianity" is based on anything but the Bible seems a bit ridiculous to me--I would argue that proper Christianity is rooted in following the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Now, here we go: True Christians know that God created the Universe according to his own design in a specific fashion in a specific order and that the FULL details are NOT included in Genesis.

It's ENTIRELY possible that when Genesis talks about the 6th day God made animals, it means 'after 400 million years, vertebrate lifeforms evolved from invertebrates'.
This is actually the section that prompted me to reply. I'm glad you realize that beginning of Genesis does not fully cover every detail of creation. However I don't understand where you transition from "every detail isn't included" to "the details included are wrong". I am also curious as to how you can interpret the "6th day" as meaning "after 400 million years". Where does this number come from? As I pointed out earlier, the Hebrew word used in Genesis to describe the "days" of creation is used several other instances referring to a 24 hour period and not once to refer to a longer period. If you are interested there are several other words that could have been used to refer to a longer period of time and I suggest you check out the link I referenced above.

New Record! (1)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529417)

This story was posted at 9:35. This comment was posted at 9:39. Thats a whole four minutes on a story about dinosaurs, ect., without someone trying to be funny by making a lame creationist joke. Yep, didn't see that coming. Seriously, could someone please tell me so many people on /. feel so threatened by creationism that they feel the need to make bad jokes about it every other story? You'd swear that half the people here are closet creationists who are trying to deny it by doing this stuff.

Re:New Record! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19529471)

That's because there is no middle ground in... The War on Science!!!

(shock! horror! images of helicopters, fiery explosions and sweaty US Marines dashing to and fro!)

Twice as tall as a man? (0, Redundant)

x_MeRLiN_x (935994) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527847)

I've never heard of a human 4 metres tall nor have I seen height being measured from foot to shoulder.

Re:Twice as tall as a man? (2, Informative)

Lachlan Hunt (1021263) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528001)

It said 8m long, not 8m tall.

Twice as *long* as a man? (1)

Blighten (992637) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528553)

It said 8m long, not 8m tall.


Some men are longer than others....I guess

Re:Twice as *long* as a man? (1)

the_tsi (19767) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528797)

Agh! Yer mother been tellin' stories about me, then?

Re:Twice as tall as a man? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528003)

I've never heard of a human 4 metres tall nor have I seen height being measured from foot to shoulder.


We must have read different articles. The one I read said that the dinosaur was 4 metres tall, not a man. Also, it is common for animals with a longer flexible neck to be measured to the shoulder. It's how horses are measured, for example.

Congratulations on the "insightful" modifier though.

Re:Twice as tall as a man? (3, Informative)

jfengel (409917) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528047)

The height of a horse is measured to the withers, basically its shoulders. I suspect that applies to quadrupeds in general. It's because it's a fairly stable place to measure to, but it's hard to keep a horse steady.

This bird isn't a quadruped, but if it has a long and neck it's more meaningful to measure to the shoulder than the top of its head.

The 8 meters is length, rather than height: tip of its head to the top of its tail, and the height is measured foot to shoulder. (I'm inferring that the thing has a tail. I'd much rather get my science news from Science News than from the BBC.)

I, for one (1)

vivin (671928) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528111)

I, for one, welcome our 3000 lb, twice-as-tall-as-a-man, giant dinosaur bird overlords.

Twice the size of a man? (1)

evilsofa (947078) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527849)

So it's twice the size of a man and weighs 3000 pounds?

Re:Twice the size of a man? (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527943)

The writeup is bad. The article is something like "Dinosaur be twice the size of yo mama, fat Capitalist Caucasian Running Dog". The scientist studied Communism at Mao Tse Tung University in Beijing and then did a post Doc in Ghetto Insults at a community college in Brooklyn.

Re:Twice the size of a man? (2, Insightful)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527957)

3000 lbs is not much more than twice as much as this 1200 lb guy [go.com]

But, in general, I agree with your shock and horror of picturing a 1500 pound man...

Re:Twice the size of a man? (2, Funny)

cammoblammo (774120) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529737)

I too am glad that /. doesn't have a webcam facility.

Re:Twice the size of a man? (1)

jfengel (409917) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528089)

Remember the square-cube law. If it's twice as tall, it's got eight times as much volume. Double the height of 200 pound man and you get a 1,600 pound man. That puts us within a factor of two.

The thing must be somewhat rounder than we are. Remember that a horse the size of a man at the shoulder weighs over a ton. If it were shaped like a horse, at "twice the size" of a man it would weigh 16,000 pounds.

Clearly it's shaped somewhere between a human and a horse, and much closer to the human side of things. (Which makes sense, given that it's bipedal.)

Wark! (3, Funny)

Arakageeta (671142) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527859)

Waaaaaark!

The current theory is (1)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529477)

Back in the day, cavemen would breed these things. They'd take two of them, and have them mate. Then they'd take a select male and a select female offspring mate them. Then they'd pick out a male and female pair from that litter and mate those! Then, maybe they'd do it one more time. The result was a bird so fucked up, it couldn't walk, let alone run. Then they'd race them.

So ... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19527889)

... is it Jesus-old or Eve-really-old [flickr.com] ?


BTW, she looks like she just smoked a big ol' rock doesn't she?

that's a very big chicken (0)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527893)

While some have theorised that meat-eating dinosaurs got smaller as they evolved to be more bird-like, this beast weighed about 1,400kg (3,080lbs). That is about 35 times heavier than other similar feathered dinosaurs. Nature journal reports that the beaked animal was 8m (26ft) long and twice as tall as a man at the shoulder; yet it was only a young adult when it died.

this thing wasn't even done growing either- it was 11 years old when it died and apparently had a lot more growing up to do before it died.

Joust Anyone? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19527913)

I have already spent years mastering the control of these beasts!

Re:Joust Anyone? (1)

Tatisimo (1061320) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528053)

Let's get cloning these things right away! Not just for joust, think of he Chocobo racing!!!

Re:Joust Anyone? (1)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528233)

I have to admit that one of the first things I thought was "Pass the barbeque sauce!"

I figure a ton and a half of barbequed dino-chicken should be food enough for a nice party (considering some of the ones we've had where we roasted half a cow). Besides, eating something that would probably want to eat you first is a case of turnabout being fair play in my book.

Not Joust, Final Fantasy (2, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528237)

This thing cannot fly; it can only run. It is the Chocobo.

Re:Not Joust, Final Fantasy (1)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529275)

In Joust, you were riding an ostrich as player one or an emu as player two and neither of those fly, so I think he's alright.

Imagine the potential! (3, Funny)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527933)

If birdlike dinosaurs got that big then giant chickens must be possible. Just imagine the MacNuggets!

Re:Imagine the potential! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528269)

That's going to take a LOT of corn! http://sanityforsale.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/indu strial-waste-in-mcdonalds-chicken-nuggets/ [wordpress.com]


(*sigh* A quick search didn't reveal it as a common "myth." One of my junior high teachers convinced half his students that McNuggets were made from chicken tumors. I was hoping to go that route in stead.)

Re:Imagine the potential! (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528331)

If birdlike dinosaurs got that big then giant chickens must be possible. Just imagine the [size of the] MacNuggets!

Or the people who eat them
     

Re:Imagine the potential! (1)

bigsam411 (1043552) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528899)

Just imagine the MacNuggets!
You mean iNuggets.

Tastes like chicken! (2, Funny)

throatmonster (147275) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527979)

(score -1: really, really f'ing lame)

Terror Birds!!! (3, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527993)

Phorusrhacids (marketed as Terror Birds!!! by the ever highbrow Scientific American) are cooler giant extinct birds. I like the way in the SciAm pictures they have a thoughtful, confident expression too, like they're thinking "I could bite that dude's head clean off. I don't think he knows that"

E.g. see the picture here -

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/08 01_050801_terrorbirds.html [nationalgeographic.com]

Re:Terror Birds!!! (1)

localroger (258128) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528157)

"I could bite that dude's head clean off. I don't think he knows that"

My parrot, who weighs about 5 pounds soaking wet, has that same expression. It's just a birdism.

Units (1)

emm-tee (23371) | more than 7 years ago | (#19527997)

It would have been more terrifying if I didn't first have to work out what those ridiculous Imperial units meant...!

Re:Units (1)

illegalcortex (1007791) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528179)

Well, dinosaurs existed before the metric switch, after all.

Eating Chicken (1)

AugustZephyr (989775) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528005)

[Eating_Chicken] Giant bird resembling a chicken walks up to me and stares menacingly.
[/Eating_Chicken]"I hope you two were not related"
[Loud Clucking]
[run]

Hold me (-1, Offtopic)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528009)

If birds evolved from dinosaurs, & we're evolving from apes, that means that things must be getting smaller as they evolve.
What if there's a minimum scale somthing can evolve to, sooner or later we're going to be smaller than the birds, again, & I don't think they're going to take too kindly to what we've been doing to their ancestors.

Re:Hold me (2, Interesting)

ChronoFish (948067) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528091)

You rationalize like a creationist.

For starters humans are larger than most other primates and our fossil record shows a progression in height.

Aside from that, evolution makes no prediction about size. Evolution is not (does not have to be) linear. What is predictable, is that if size matters (either smaller or larger) a population will tend to the beneficial size over time.

-CF

Re:Hold me (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19529175)

You're right. This theory of evolution doesn't make any sense, so Christianity must be right. Let's all pray to God and ask for forgiveness.

Even more evidence that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528065)

Even more evidence that Nazis rode dinosaurs!

Xing Xu (5, Interesting)

BamZyth (940235) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528069)

I am too lazy to find hard references, but Xing Xu, the researcher who found
this fossil was once involed in the discovery of another "dinosaur bird" which
was shown as a fraud. To his credit, he was also involved in the team that discovered
the fraud (isn't it strange?)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2007/19 50967.htm [abc.net.au]

FTFA : In 2001 he was embroiled in controversy over the discovery of a fossil believed to be the 'missing link between dinosaurs and birds, which tests revealed to be a clever fraud.

Re:Xing Xu (1)

BamZyth (940235) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528107)

Ok, he was victim of an elaborate plot. I do not want in any case to cast any doubt on this great scientific who identified around 20 new species of dinosaurs. And google did nothing wrong when they gave my info to the chinese, and I am going to jail without claiming 200$. goodbye.

Re:Xing Xu (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528499)

once involed in the discovery of another "dinosaur bird" which
was shown as a fraud.


It was the "Made in China" label that gave it away :-)
       

Groot, baie groot (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528165)

Drie duisend pond is 'n blerrie groot voe"l...

No Slashdoter Can Answer this Question: QUIS SCIT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528173)

What was Oregon Trail written in?

Signed,
Grumpus Maximus

SOMEBODY HELP!!! DO NOT MOD THIS DOWN!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528187)

Date/Time:      2007-06-15 22:36:18.319 -0400
OS Version:     10.4.9 (Build 8P2137)
Report Version: 4

Command: QuickTime Player
Path:    /Applications/QuickTime Player.app/Contents/MacOS/QuickTime Player
Parent:  WindowServer [65]

Version:        7.1.6 (7.1.6)
Build Version:  5
Project Name:   QuickTime
Source Version: 4932000

PID:    1263
Thread: 9

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000009

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1   com.apple.CoreFoundation           0x9082c2b3 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
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1   com.apple.CoreFoundation           0x9082c2b3 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
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Thread 8:
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Thread 9 Crashed:
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1   com.apple.CoreVideo                0x940f30a4 CVPixelBufferTextureBacking::update2vuyPBufferText ure(CVImageBuffer*, CVOpenGLTexture*) + 228
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3   com.apple.CoreVideo                0x940ef6dd CVOpenGLTextureCache::createTextureFromImage(__CFA llocator const*, CVImageBuffer*, int*) + 1251
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10  com.apple.QuickTime                0x9439494f QTVisualContextCopyImageForTime + 92
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12  com.apple.CoreVideo                0x940f63a0 CVDisplayLink::performIO(CVTimeStamp*) + 428
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Thread 10:
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1   com.apple.opengl                   0x931d574e CGLCreatePBuffer + 438
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Thread 11:
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Thread 12:
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Thread 13:
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Thread 14:
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Thread 15:
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1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore     0x90cdfdcd TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 163
2   com.apple.QuickTime                0x94397fbf VideoDecodeThread + 63
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Thread 9 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
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  edi: 0x16a6ed40  esi: 0x16a1a660  ebp: 0xb0489578  esp: 0xb0489450
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SOMEONE'S gotta say it! (1)

SadGeekHermit (1077125) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528209)

That, gentlemen, is a great big cock.

What?

It's basically a big rooster, right?

What's that look for?

With that kind of weight, it (1)

El Gruga (1029472) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528227)

probably needed two Pratt and Whitney JT9D's to get it to fly. I believe this was the first wide-bodied chicken and was put into service by various airlines in China. When it crashed, there was always enough food until rescuers arrived.....

Re:With that kind of weight, it (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529051)

When it crashed, there was always enough food until rescuers arrived.....

Mmmm.... lemon chicken

3000 lbs./Twice the size of a man (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528229)

It takes a lot of Big Macs to make a man 1500 lbs.

Creationism is RIGHT! (1)

dduardo (592868) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528247)

By the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on the seventh day He rested from all His work. But like anyone after much work, He was hungry; so at that moment He said: "Wait, one more thing...Let there be a KFC!" And with those words a giant dinosaur bird appeared, battered in the Colonel's secret recipe and deep fried. He took one bite of it and said: "Mmmm, tastes just like chicken."

Why beaks? (1, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528403)

What is not clear to me is why so many bird-like dino's evolved beaks, even (so far) indepedently of each other in some cases. Other than pecking into trees, which was probably a niche of only a few, I don't see what advantage beaks have over teethed jaws. If a beak cracks off, it is harder to grow back than teeth.

Another little mystery is why snails survive. Their method of locamotion seems rather expensive and slow compared to legs. Being able to pull into a shell helps, but what about slugs? The insects should have wiped their niche out long ago.
     

Re:Why beaks? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529081)

I don't see what advantage beaks have over teethed jaws.

Well, it is less complex. Probably less mass. Better overall for a lightweight animal.

Another little mystery is why snails survive

Perhaps by being barely alive in the first place. Less energy needed to stay alive.

Thats enough mysteries solved for today.

Chocobo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19528477)

Anyone else see "giant dinosuar bird" and immediately think chocobo?
Maybe it's just me.

What the hell (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528667)

This story has been posted for long enough. Where's the "I bow before our new feathered overlords?" Or how about "I'm allergic to down, you insensitive clod!"

Man /. really *is* getting less worth my time!

And it flew? (1)

rdmiller3 (29465) | more than 7 years ago | (#19528787)

It's twice the size of a man but weighs 3000 pounds (about twenty times what a man weighs)...
and it flew??

Re:And it flew? (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529023)

"...and it flew??"

At least read the summary, I know it's bad form on /. to RTFA, but not even the summary???

Or is it the fact 'flightless'(from the summary) has too many syllables for you to grasp?

I would ask if you were new here, but I see your UID says otherwise...you should know better by now if you aren't brain dead.

If you feel your 5 digit UID elevates you past such concerns, then do the rest of us a favor and just lurk.

Re:And it flew? (1)

BungaDunga (801391) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529059)

"Chinese researchers uncovered the fossilised remains of the flightless giant"
I know nobody reads TFA, but not reading the summary is surely a new low.

Re:And it flew? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529103)

It's twice the size of a man but weighs 3000 pounds (about twenty times what a man weighs)... and it flew??

But with a high wing loading (and stall speed). Maybe it was a giant hummingbird.

Mourn (2, Funny)

weinrich (414267) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529077)

I for one mourn the loss of our Gigantoraptor overlords. May we always be rulled by beings as humble and powerful as the Gigantoraptor.

phew! (1)

nanosquid (1074949) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529113)

over 3000 lbs. From the article: 'Chinese researchers uncovered the fossilised remains of the flightless giant

That's a relief.

Obligatory (1)

DavidD_CA (750156) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529123)

I, for one, welcome our giant bird dinosaur overlo--- oh, wait, just the fossils? Nevermind then.

China fossils not all Bunk (1)

Magdalene (263144) | more than 7 years ago | (#19529231)

Not all fossils out of China are hoaxes, and I have yet to see one scientific site discredit this find. So for now the fossil stands:
Gigantoraptor:
flightless birdlike dinosaur
feathers (some paleontologists theorize feathers first provided an evolutionary bonus for their insulation value)
young adult
3,080lbs
26ft long
10 - 12ft tall
11 years old
evolutionary side branch from birds.

Science has no truths, ideally, science can only disprove hypothesis and theorem, so until someone disproves this find, it stands as the current science of palaeontology.
 
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