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176 comments

Huge penis failure (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655539)

In your pants! [goatse.cz]

The Lone Troller

Re:Huge penis failure (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655699)

It would be like when the power goes out in your apartment...only...in your pants!

Where is the FUCK is iLife '07??? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655737)

Come ON you homosexual deviants in Cupertino. QUIT FUCKING AROUND and update your fucking software every so often. You mincing faggots are worse than Debian...

Number one search? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655545)

Food or water? I'm racing to get my ads up.

Re:Number one search? (5, Informative)

also-rr (980579) | about 7 years ago | (#19655719)

According to the <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the -world-factbook/geos/ke.html">CIA</a> Kenyans have an average life expectancy of 55 years which isn't great (the Sundan rates 49 years, Mexico and China both rate over 70 years) so your comment isn't as much of a troll as one might expect. It's not a well developed place.

Nonetheless the literacy rate is over 90% and the average GDP (PPP) is $1,200... so combined with the inequality between rich and poor you can expect to find some well educated people in the cities. Probably enough for Google's needs, or else they wouldn't be building there!

Investment is also one way to boost the economy of a country. Give them jobs and skills, the rest will follow. Even a market for adwords.

Re:Number one search? (1)

bladesjester (774793) | about 7 years ago | (#19655811)

Maybe they figure that, with the money they have in the bank, they could effectively buy the country and define "evil" legally to be whatever they want it to be.

The frightening thing is that part of me thinks this isn't as far fetched as it might sound at first blush. They have, after all, been getting kind of questionable of late.

Kenya is at the forefront of e Africa ICT rev... (5, Informative)

arcite (661011) | about 7 years ago | (#19656267)

Kenya is currently in negotiation with UAE to build (FINALLY) the first Fibre optic line ($110 million)(which will connect Kenya to Oman and the rest of the world ushering in a new era of cheap high speed internet...as opposed to relying on expensive vsat technology. Only then will data centres, voip ect... become universal. Perhaps Google is anticipating the next stage of the ICT revolution in E.Africa that will happen when the government finally (hopefully) builds the line in a year or so (negotiations are still being held up for the time being). More info here http://allafrica.com/stories/200706251543.html [allafrica.com] [p] I'm in Dar es Salaam ATM using the so called 'free' wireless' in my hotel room and its dreadfully slow (atleast it works). The fibre optic line will be heaven!

Re:Kenya is at the forefront of e Africa ICT rev.. (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 7 years ago | (#19657119)

Actually, there is an undersea fibre-optic cable that runs all the way around Africa, sponsored mostly by South Africa and Nigeria. All Kenia has to do is connect to it.

Re:Kenya is at the forefront of e Africa ICT rev.. (1)

enrevanche (953125) | about 7 years ago | (#19657905)

So all they have to do is send a diver out with a patch cable?

Re:Number one search? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656395)

They are going to Kenya for the same reason companies have been going to India and China. CHEAP LABOR!

It's a little thing called offshoring.

Re:Number one search? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656443)

Well, I don't go around quoting the CIA much, but that's just a religious preference.

I wasn't trolling, it was a poignant joke, modded +2 funny.
Ok, obviously I wasn't anonymous enough for CIA people. Merde.

Google's decision was an economic and political one, though they *probably have more than 1 or 2 reasons.
Sorry to say, I don't think humanitarianism or cultural development are in the top 2. Maybe top 10?

The Q: Is it exploitation to hire capable, hard working people in a developing nation and pay them the minimum wage?

I suppose that depends on who you ask. We'll see what people say in 10 years. If it flops, would google stay?

(So mod unto me, so will I mod unto you) - anonymous coward (the real one)

Life expectancy isn't always a good predictor (4, Interesting)

stomv (80392) | about 7 years ago | (#19656993)

of how long you'll live. Why? The skew caused by child mortality. According to UNICEF child mortality statistics [childinfo.org] , a child born in Kenya is over 3 times more likely to die before five years old than one born in China, over 4 times more likely to die than one in Mexico. Plus, AIDS infection rates are much higher in Kenya, resulting in more deaths of people in their 20s and 30s.

Are food and water a problem? Sometimes, sure. But, the bigger problems are child mortality and AIDS. That's what's making the life expectancy a paltry 55.

Re:Life expectancy isn't always a good predictor (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657179)

At least they don't have democracy. That alone can cut 20% on the average lifespan of those who get it.

Re:Number one search? (-1, Offtopic)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | about 7 years ago | (#19655757)

Oh, be consistent, mods! I always plummet to -1 when I joke about Brazilians googling "bond default", "non-inflationary currency", "learn English", and "squatter legal defense".

And that happens more often than you might think. (My joking about Brazil, I mean.)

They evaluated (4, Funny)

dotpavan (829804) | about 7 years ago | (#19655897)

..Nigeria, but the Nigerian Prez rejected Google's offer via email which said "Eric Schimdt would like to invest millions of dollars in Nigeria, but first, send $500 to our Western Union"

Re:Number one search? SA epidemic XDR-TB! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19658643)

According to some, South Africa is now experiencing an extremely scary epidemic of
XDR-Tuberculosis. That is multiple drug resistant to all known therapies, has a death rate of eighty five percent of those infected, is airborne, and kills on an average of sixteen days after onset. This is usually before the tests have time to come back and they are already burying you! Google probably knows this and ran, not walked, to Kenya. That is about as far as one can go and still not be in the crosshairs of some moslem terrorist or subject to some sharian craziness yet still be in Africa and be able to access the Thawte servers. The other logical choice would be Nigeria for modern infrastructure and English speaking local population. They will want some local workers, probably a lot of them. Please everybody pray for the poor souls suffering and yet to be suffering in South Africa. Such a calamity should not happen to an enlightened country such as this. There is no justice in the world!

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Re:GNAA unveils "New for Jew Thousand and Six" pro (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656625)

"LM Go" sounds awesome. Where can I get a one?

Re:GNAA unveils "New for Jew Thousand and Six" pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657121)

...it's 2007

Forget Norway (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655573)

Holy crap! [google.com]

Re:Forget Norway (0, Offtopic)

zmollusc (763634) | about 7 years ago | (#19655637)

TFA doesn't mention the free snorkels. Wtf?

Only in Kenya (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655627)

Damn, now every time I search something, I get stuck in the head that "only in kenya" song with tigers and lions dancing.

Re:Only in Kenya (0, Offtopic)

MuscaDomestica (764805) | about 7 years ago | (#19655649)

Only in Kenya Lions and Tigers - Kenya we got the lions only in kenya , going to kenya, we got lions, we got the tigers, only in kenya , got lions and tigers only in kenya , we got norway, kenya oh kenya where the giraffes are and the zebras kenya kenya kenya kenya kenya we going to kenya we can't believe it (free snorkel with every visit)

Re:Only in Kenya (4, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | about 7 years ago | (#19655715)

I believe the lyric is "forget norway"

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/ [weebls-stuff.com]

Re:Only in Kenya (2, Insightful)

bladesjester (774793) | about 7 years ago | (#19655769)

You beat me to it. That video was the first thing that I thought of when I saw the headline =]

Re:Only in Kenya (1)

macserv (701681) | about 7 years ago | (#19658121)

You know, in his defense, for a good while my friends and I also thought it was "We got Norway". It wasn't until I saw the lyrics written that I thought differently.

More like Snoreway! (0, Troll)

MS-06FZ (832329) | about 7 years ago | (#19658197)

Main Export: Tree

Re:Only in Kenya (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655727)

we got lions, we got the tigers, we got Google, only in Kenya

powerthirst (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655703)

made with REAL LIGHTNING!!
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and you'll be like fuck you and kick her in the face with your ENERGGGYY LEGGS!
you'll have 400 BABIES!!!!
they'll run as fast as kenyans!
they'll race as fast as kenyans ... they'll be deported back to KENYA!
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fairplay (0, Flamebait)

wwmedia (950346) | about 7 years ago | (#19655739)

"Google understands that this is an impediment and is willing to go to the extent of buying international bandwidth that locals don't have to pay the current considerable premium they are."

free/cheap bandwidth for africa, fairplay to google! wonder what evil master plan is behind this idea?

Re:fairplay (1)

bladesjester (774793) | about 7 years ago | (#19655865)

The fact that, if played right, Google could effectively control the country?

Re:fairplay (5, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 7 years ago | (#19656003)

One of the biggest exports of Kenya is (decent) coffee. Google is staffed by geeks. Do I really need to connect the dots here?

You know what's wierd (5, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | about 7 years ago | (#19656741)

it wasn't until about 10-12 years ago coffee became and indicator of nerd/geek.

until I was 35, almost nobody I knew or worked with drank coffee. I wonder if it is a fallout from the dot com era of everyone working late nighters for start ups.

Re:You know what's wierd (1)

grazzy (56382) | about 7 years ago | (#19657189)

Bah, mistakenly moderated your comment offtopic. Posting to fix that :)

Re:You know what's wierd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657763)

Dude, you should review when Jolt Cola hit the market. I'm not sure about coffee in particular, but caffeine has long been linked with geekdom--if anything, it's probably that some of the geeks grew up and acquired the taste.

Kenya (4, Funny)

OverlordQ (264228) | about 7 years ago | (#19655783)

where can you see Google?
only in kenya
come to kenya we've got Google!

For those who don't get the reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19658283)

Don't get the joke? See the original Kenya animation at Weebl's World [weebls-stuff.com] .

Google Knows: +1 Informative (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655825)

that BushCo [whitehouse.org] intends to seize all U.S. assets in the name of Patriotism on Dec.31, 2007.

Check it out.

Re:Google Knows: +1 Informative (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656005)

Dumbass attempt at social engineering with that fake informative tag. It's useless on Slashdot, nothing social works on nerds.

Why not Kenya? (0, Flamebait)

internetcommie (945194) | about 7 years ago | (#19655849)

Not to be rude to anybody, but I've heard government corruption is a bigger problem in Kenya than South Africa...

Re:Why not Kenya? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 7 years ago | (#19655895)

Possibly but I'd say you are less likley to be murdered in Kenya than South Africa. Have you ever been to Johanesburg? Every home is like a small prison with high walls and even security services that come on alarms... just recently a noted photographer was critically injured when a head sized piece of cement was thrown through his windshield, something they apparently wish to reduce the instances of down there around Capetown.

I went to a hotel there and we were advised not to walk on the street at any time, night or day.

Re:Why not Kenya? (1)

internetcommie (945194) | about 7 years ago | (#19656007)

That would make Kenya an even better place for a big corporation. The government officials they buy are likely to survive for a while, which will save them money. And, minor issue of course; the employees are likely to live till the next work day too.

Re:Why not Kenya? (3, Interesting)

ChatHuant (801522) | about 7 years ago | (#19656733)

Possibly but I'd say you are less likley to be murdered in Kenya than South Africa. (...)

I went to a hotel there and we were advised not to walk on the street at any time, night or day.


Well, I've been to Nairobi, and it's quite similar - all homes in Karen and Langata (the rich suburbs of Nairobi) are small fortresses, with alarms, barbed wire, fences and dogs. You see askaris (armed policemen) everywhere in downtown Nairobi, and, when arriving at a hotel, they inspect the underside of your car for bombs. And from what I read, Nairobi and Jo'burg take turns being the crime capital of Africa. Especially lately, because of the war in neighboring Somalia, armed robbery and other attacks have grown a lot.

But except for the crime problem (which is worst in Nairobi), and for the widespread corruption (which you'll find almost everywhere in Africa) Kenya is a great place to visit, and one of the more advanced countries in Sub-Saharan Africa. The education levels are fairly high, you see lots of schools everywhere, even in the impoverished countryside areas. So Google's decision to go to Kenya isn't totally unreasonable.

Re:Why not Kenya? (0, Troll)

fishbowl (7759) | about 7 years ago | (#19657577)

>all homes in Karen and Langata (the rich suburbs of Nairobi) are small fortresses, with alarms, barbed wire, fences
>and dogs.

Like Cincinnati!

FYI (1)

arcite (661011) | about 7 years ago | (#19656799)

They don't call it Nairobbery for nothin... ;0)

so (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655853)

Looks like Google caught a case of Jungle Fever.

More Expansion? (1)

syntaxeater (1070272) | about 7 years ago | (#19655859)

I don't have a link to the article infront of me, but they are also opening up a 1200-1600~ acre shop in Council Bluffs, IA as well. There hasn't been any details given on the type of development being done there, but this new Google expanding is deffinitely getting interesting.

Iowa == Kenya? (1)

internetcommie (945194) | about 7 years ago | (#19656093)

And what does Iowa and Kenya have in common? Apart from being located very centrally on two different continents, of course!

Re:Iowa == Kenya? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 7 years ago | (#19657333)

And what does Iowa and Kenya have in common?

You've obviously never been to Iowa.

Re:Iowa == Kenya? (1)

internetcommie (945194) | about 7 years ago | (#19658011)

You didn't answer my question!

(btw. I live in Iowa City)

Space Elevator (4, Funny)

zzztkf (574953) | about 7 years ago | (#19655887)

I know Google is going to build the space elevator to go to the orbit. Kenya is better than SA for that purpose.



I think you mean (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 7 years ago | (#19656711)

Gvator

Google conspiracy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19655893)

Never seen so many trolls on one topic. Maybe google hired them to keep discussion away from this topic. Only one explanation.
They're going for World Domination!

"What're they going to do tonight, Brain?" (0, Offtopic)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | about 7 years ago | (#19658599)

"Same thing they do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world!"

About geography (2, Funny)

Koookiemonster (1099467) | about 7 years ago | (#19655955)

Kenya is in the middle of the continent -- does that make any difference?

Re:About geography (1)

maubp (303462) | about 7 years ago | (#19656283)

No, Kenya is NOT in the middle of the continent. Its on the east coast straddling the equator.

No (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | about 7 years ago | (#19656827)

How would it help?

If you wanted an African base, then South Africa is a lot easier to travel to (more airlines etc) and has far better infrastructure.

WTF does Google want to do in Africa anyway? If they want to access programmers etc, then they should target South Africa which holds probably 95+% of the African programmer talent.

Re:No (1)

dabraun (626287) | about 7 years ago | (#19658477)

Actually, Ethiopia is the central air hub in Africa simply because Ethiopian airlines (more modern than you may think) is based there (yes, I've been there).

All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (5, Insightful)

ZachReligious (313979) | about 7 years ago | (#19655983)

Google is simply moving into a country that is on the technology curve, but behind enough that they can have MAJOR influence over new policy. Imagine having your own government to run. Who wouldn't do it?

... Seriously though, what other search / advertising players have taken the 2nd and 3rd world economies seriously at all? If this "test" goes well for them, they could have a major head start at monetizing the internet in the rest of the world (Where most of the population is). Remember for a lot of people, AOL *was* the internet. Now imagine in 10 years that 4/5ths of the worlds population thinks that Google is the internet. Everything else will cease to be relevant.

Re:All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (1)

moderatorrater (1095745) | about 7 years ago | (#19657071)

Remember for a lot of people, AOL *was* the internet...Now imagine in 10 years that 4/5ths of the worlds population thinks that Google is the internet. Everything else will cease to be relevant
Yes, because AOL drove all their competition out of the market so very thoroughly.

My guess is that Google's trying to tap otherwise untapped markets for talent. It's advertising for south african jobs and it's setting up in the middle of the continent rather than the southern tip. With Google's resources, they should be able to attract anyone with mathematical skills in the (well educated) country and its neighbors. They can do this while building up the African economies and tech base, which will open up markets to them (and allow them to be the first, but not the only, player there) and give them good will around the world.

Besides, what's the benefit of owning a country's government? What would that allow them to do for their business that US laws won't allow them to do here?

Re:All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (1)

Darundal (891860) | about 7 years ago | (#19658715)

A lot of things that are illegal here in the US but that aren't there, and that they could make sure stayed not illegal.

Re:All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (1)

moderatorrater (1095745) | about 7 years ago | (#19658837)

But what are these things that are illegal here but would benefit google if they were legal?

Re:All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (1)

AaxelB (1034884) | about 7 years ago | (#19657817)

I think a decent proportion of the current population using the web does think Google is the internet...

I mean, if somebody set it up for them and Google is their homepage, then when you click on the internet, it's just Google! Then you type something into Google and it takes you to a list of the internet! Therefore, what is the internet but Google? They've got no reason (well, not really, but, you know, it happens) to think otherwise.

Reader wana forwards (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657833)

If reader wana forwards it, why dona the reader forward it?

Re:All your Sub-Saharan Countries Are Belong To Us (1)

hyperstation (185147) | about 7 years ago | (#19657863)

Now imagine in 10 years that 4/5ths of the worlds population thinks that Google is the internet. Everything else will cease to be relevant.

something like 40% of the world doesn't even have access to clean water. you think google could take care of that first?

Reminds me of Brunner's book "Stand on Zanzibar" (1)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | about 7 years ago | (#19658665)

For those of you who are familiar with the book and were able to make sense of it, you may recall that one of the plot lines was that a large high-tech company was planning on basically taking over a small African country's economy... and that there were even some execs who were looking at how to let the inhabitants benefit from this as well as the stockholders.

Perhaps Google is looking to, if not completely take over the Kenyan economy lock, stock, and barrel, but at least become a dominant player there... and from there perhaps into the rest of the African continent.

And maybe they might have enough people there who are idealistic enough to want to make sure that the Kenyans benefit from this... and from there perhaps the rest of the African continent.

SA? (1)

jimbo3123 (320148) | about 7 years ago | (#19656099)

I had to read the whole summary and all the way to the second paragraph of the linked article to find out that SA = South Africa (not San Antonio or Santa Ana) or any other SA location.

Even there, it was very ambiguous. It says "They have advertised for South African personnel so the chances ..."

Re:SA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656481)

Welcome to the world Jimbo... SA is used, and understood, globally. Just like USA and UK.

Re:SA? (1)

moderatorrater (1095745) | about 7 years ago | (#19657083)

From the summary,

What advanced infrastructure exists on the African continent is mostly in South Africa, and a blogger from there speculates on what Google might have been thinking in choosing Kenya over SA
Probably just skimmed over it.

Re:SA? (1)

mjwx (966435) | about 7 years ago | (#19657443)

South Australia.

Here's the deal. (0, Troll)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 7 years ago | (#19656137)

Here's the deal. Indians and Chinese will soon cost as much as Americans. Google is, contrary to what most Slashdot's with their rose colored glasses think, a BIG HUGE MEGA CORPORATION.

Re:Here's the deal. (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 7 years ago | (#19656665)

and?

Having been to Kenya (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656149)

I love Kenyans. I want to see them do well. If Google is going there, great. I wouldn't work for Google no matter what they paid me but if their presence means more money for the local population, I'm all for that.

Asante sana Google. Do some good with the power you have.

working at google (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657759)

Yeah, I don't really understand why still people want to work for google after reading some reports [wordpress.com] .

They still need one more site... (1)

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GPO Official: Ankwat i odr inkerat Gobi Desert dot com...

SUBTITLE: 'THIS NEW SERVER COMPLETES THE ENCIRCLEMENT OF THE GOBI DESERT'

GPO Official: Ik artwar, hyaddin... (etc.)

SUBTITLE: 'GOOGLE.COM IS NOW IN A POSITION TO ACHIEVE COMPLETE WORLD DOMINATION'

Re:They still need one more site... (1)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | about 7 years ago | (#19657513)

And just when they think they have won; ZOMBO.COM beats them silly.

Google's plan for world dominance... (1)

writermike (57327) | about 7 years ago | (#19656401)

1. Hire programmers.
2. Open facility in place known for making good, strong coffee.
3. Dangle said coffee in front of programmers noses.
4. Move programmers to Kenya
5. ???
6. Profit!

How will they power this? (2, Interesting)

r_jensen11 (598210) | about 7 years ago | (#19656413)

When I think of Africa, I think of VERY large areas that, to put it mildly, are miles away from an electrical grid. How does Google plan on powering this? Unless this thing is in Nairobi (which I'm guessing it would have to be,) would they have to use solar power?

On a related topic, maybe Google will actually pay attention to Google Maps for Kenya, and especially Nairobi?

Re:How will they power this? (0, Troll)

timmarhy (659436) | about 7 years ago | (#19656531)

americans... duh they can build a power plant? where do you think think your power comes from now? the hot air eminating out of bush?

Re:How will they power this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19656813)

americans... duh they can build a power plant?
Are you sure about that? [washingtonpost.com]

Re:How will they power this? (1)

Tacticus.v1 (1102137) | about 7 years ago | (#19657665)

Simple solution.
Don't hand the contracts to haliburton and co. if you want something done.

Re:How will they power this? (1)

AfricanImpi (879572) | about 7 years ago | (#19657039)

If that's your conclusion when thinking of Africa, might I suggest you get yourself an education? Every major city and town in Kenya is connected to the country's national electricity grid, as are most rural towns. In addition, the Kenyan grid is connected to all other southern African electricity grids via the Southern African Power Pool, allowing them to draw on the additional shared power when needed. Trust me, Google's not going to have to use solar panels to power its Kenyan office.

And yes, part of the reason for this move is to improve the sub-Saharan African localisation of Google's products, especially Google Maps. There is a fairly large Google user base in the region, so the company is keen to improve its service offering and get a foothold in the door early, as all predictions are that internet usage there is going to skyrocket in the next few years even more so than it's doing already.

MAMBA (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 7 years ago | (#19657143)

MAMBA == Miles And Miles of Bloody Africa

Anyhoo, after South Africa and Egypt, Kenia is the most developed country in Africa and also one of the most peaceful and stable.

Peaceful? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657397)

The Mungiki hysteria seems like a military coup in the making. All the rumors that they are being funded by members of government/parliament, if there is a conspiracy I'd sooner suspect someone is intentionally spreading those rumors rather than them being true, and accusations of the police/courts not being able to handle the threat are a perfect set up for it.

Re:How will they power this? (1)

benzapp (464105) | about 7 years ago | (#19657173)

Actually, Nairobi is not as backwards of a place as you seem to think. A number of international corporations have office towers there. Infrastructure is largely there, but their biggest problem is most certainly crime. To be fair, South Africa has certainly become a shockingly dangerous place as well since the end of apartheid.

Why don't you read up on it a bit. [wikipedia.org]

Re:How will they power this? (1)

nimblebrain (683478) | about 7 years ago | (#19658339)

There's a fair amount of town and city electrification there. Nairobi might make an okay place for them, but it really is crime-ridden in a lot of spots, and Kibera is a freaking huge shantytown on the edge. Someone was shot out in open daylight not too far away from one of our co-safari travelers. Karen is a pretty nice suburb, as close as you can get to a "North American" feel. We didn't brave any transport to get us to the business center of town - the one you always see in pictures that makes you think the rest of Nairobi would be really nice. Nairobi's a mile-high city, and is not as freakishly hot as I would have imagined.

The rest of Kenya that we saw varied a lot. As far as towns go in Kenya, Nakuru was my favorite by far. Apart from a number of annoying vendors where safari buses stop, it was a decently relaxed place with some nice grocery/department stores and less pestering than usual, and right next to a game park that contained pretty much half of every kind of animal we saw in Africa. I vote for them to set up base there :)

Google Maps Kenya needs a legend for the roads for number of spines broken, though. They essentially killed the railway so that officials could have their own little trucking companies that are habitually overloaded. Yeah, Google will have to settle for somewhere with an airport.

Future OB comment?? (1)

IgLou (732042) | about 7 years ago | (#19656477)

In Google Kenya, Kenya googles you!

Nope, it just doesn't flow right...

the only reason this was posted (-1, Redundant)

Kuciwalker (891651) | about 7 years ago | (#19656681)

is obvious from the comments: so we [url=http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/]forg et norway[/url]

gr8 stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657007)

nice choice google - let's hope it's near the beach for um water cooling that datacentre

http://www.kenyanview.com/Hotel-watamu-beach-Ken_0 5.jpg [kenyanview.com]

Network security? (4, Interesting)

CPE1704TKS (995414) | about 7 years ago | (#19657145)

Will this Kenyan network be on the same corporate network as the rest of the Google offices? If I were a corporate spy and wanted to infiltrate Google this would probably be my point of choice. It's far away from the main headquarters, the society isn't as developed or rich, so if you bribe employees with $10-20k, they would probably let you do whatever you wanted and give you whatever access you wanted.

It's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy though, because if you don't treat the Kenyan employees like full-fledged employees with full privileges, it will probably cause resentment and make them even more likely to take bribes, etc.

I wonder if this is a consideration for them.

Re:Network security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657429)

I see... because in California you can't bribe an employee with $10-20 grand. Especially if they are a lower-level but privileged employee (like a secretary).

You are either delusional or naive.

Re:Network security? (1)

dbIII (701233) | about 7 years ago | (#19657867)

It's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy though, because if you don't treat the Kenyan employees like full-fledged employees with full privileges

As an Australian that has seen offshoring I'll point out that this is google and they have done this sort of thing before. It's not the typical US offshore operation that arrives with a lot of noise and young management chosen by nepotism, marvels at the low wages and no need to pay health care but imposes lower than usual conditions (ie. another 100% of normal work hours in unpaid overtime), bullies the "savages" (word used by imported management at Telstra but a common attitude), doesn't care about the high staff turnover and then makes some major stuffup and implodes.

a few very good reasons (2, Interesting)

RobertLTux (260313) | about 7 years ago | (#19657163)

1 kenya is probably one of the only "green field" areas left NOT on the south pole
2 Google could buy the IT/Infrastructure
3 Built in security (lions and other savan predators)
4 OLPC start node

Forget Norway (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657177)

Where can you see google, only in Kenya. Come to kenya we got google. Forget Norway. Kenya...

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/ [weebls-stuff.com]

So it was google all along! (2, Insightful)

Esc7 (996317) | about 7 years ago | (#19657323)

If youre going to buy a government (2, Interesting)

voss (52565) | about 7 years ago | (#19657391)

buy it completely. Google cant afford South Africa...it can probably afford Kenya.

The GDP of south africa is 201 billion, The GDP of Kenya is 17 billion, the Net worth of Google 150 billion.

Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19657675)

Better coffee.

Forerunners (1)

Namarrgon (105036) | about 7 years ago | (#19657985)

Obviously they've found the Ark, or some other Forerunner facility.

When Google mentioned the Great Journey on their prospectus & SEC filings, I really didn't think we'd be seeing this [google.com] as the next Google Datacenter...

Good News for Africa (4, Insightful)

magixman (883752) | about 7 years ago | (#19658487)

The fact that Google is setting up in country other than ZA is a very big vote of confidence for the continent. I am not in a position to understand the business aspects of the deal with respect to communications infrastructure or regulatory frameworks but I think that if you want to win the hearts and minds of Africans you have to look into the future and see beyond just South Africa which has been the "safe" choice for western-based international businesses.
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