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Microsoft to Offer Free Online Storage

samzenpus posted about 7 years ago | from the the-first-500-megs-are-free dept.

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athloi writes "Microsoft Corp. is giving computer users up to 500 megabytes of online storage for their documents, music, photos and video. They're offering it to a select 5,000 test users for now, but will make it widely available later this summer. This move is the latest in a series by the previous large corporation we all loved to hate to compete with the newest large corporation we might hate and fear, Google."

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290 comments

I am Microsoft! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669689)

Suck my teet!

Too little... (5, Funny)

A Nun Must Cow Herd (963630) | about 7 years ago | (#19669703)

... too late, and too Microsoft.

Re:Too little... (1, Interesting)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | about 7 years ago | (#19669753)

Exactly. Gmail offers a gig, and plenty of third party applications store documents there. 500 megabytes explains why Bill Gates is a billionaire- as if anybody needed to be hit over the head with the fact he's a cheap penny pincher.

Re:Too little... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669801)

I imagine this is less of a GMail-killer, and more of a .Mac-killer. Some have speculated that the iPhone will have .Mac integration before long. Would be nice to have their Zune automatically sync with this service over wifi before they get there, no?

Re:Too little... (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | about 7 years ago | (#19669901)

Zune doesn't need to. But it sure would be nice if Windows Mobile did (Get your direct competitor products right).

Re:Too little... (2, Interesting)

DECS (891519) | about 7 years ago | (#19670187)

The iPhone already has .Mac integration, because iTunes already syncs it with Safari's bookmarks, email/contacts/calendars, and email settings. ITunes in turn, syncs with .Mac. Users don't have to do anything, and they don't even need to pay for .Mac unless they have various systems they all want to sync together.

Also, bookmarks, contacts, and email can be accessed from .Mac via the web, which the iPhone can do too. I suppose there would be further ways to integrate or expand .Mac, but it works as is already. I don't know what Microsoft offers that is comparable.

--

ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley Says Apple's iPhone Needs ActiveSync [roughlydrafted.com]
Mary Jo Foley, who describes her ZDNet blog as "an unblinking eye on Microsoft," seems to have been charged with the unpleasant task of producing a somewhat positive sounding iPhone story, and gave it her best shot. Unfortunately, it wasn't very well thought out, and reflects a preoccupation with flattering Microsoft.

Gdrive (1)

goombah99 (560566) | about 7 years ago | (#19669865)

where's the Gdrive?

Re:Too little... (5, Funny)

Thwomp (773873) | about 7 years ago | (#19670041)

//TODO: Insert obligatory '500MB should be enough for anyone' comment here.

Re:Too little... (1)

nschubach (922175) | about 7 years ago | (#19670177)

/*TODO:
* 1. write 500MB of gibberish (and hard to compress) files
* 2. upload to use the space given to me
* 3. PROFIT!!
* 4. invite others to do the same
*/

Re:Too little... (2, Informative)

Cal Paterson (881180) | about 7 years ago | (#19670241)

Exactly. Gmail offers a gig, and plenty of third party applications store documents there. 500 megabytes explains why Bill Gates is a billionaire- as if anybody needed to be hit over the head with the fact he's a cheap penny pincher.
This statement is far to dismissive for a product that isn't even concrete yet. It's just heading into beta, there is little available data, and you have already dismissed it.

I'm not even someone who is a big Microsoft fan - this is posted from a Debian machine, and I personally concur with the politics of Debian.

On a side note, Bill Gates did not make money from being a "cheap penny pincher". He made money by entering a market where the only real costs of manufacture are the initial R&D. As he is able to "value price" a product at ~£200 (windows) that has a per-unit cost of only a few pence (cd, booklet, box), he is a billionaire.

I could very easily just mod you down (I have mod points) but I decided that the scale of your ignorance warranted a challenging post.

Stop bashing Microsoft so ignorantly (1)

MasaMuneCyrus (779918) | about 7 years ago | (#19670249)

Hotmail already offers 2GB. This isn't an e-mail storage service like GMail (though Gmail can and is used for some file storage), this is a separate endeavor meant entirely for file storage.

and how! (1, Flamebait)

twitter (104583) | about 7 years ago | (#19669775)

Too little too late, indeed. .mac [apple.com] springs to mind as do dozens of specialized services from Yahoo, Google and others. Offerings by "social networking" sites and photo sharing sites redouble it all. How much do you want to bet that M$ adds insult to injury by selling adverts on the service?

The same as everyone else (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670003)

How much do you want to bet that M$ adds insult to injury by selling adverts on the service?

How much do you want to bet that everyone else does? Oh, wait. They already do. Never mind. Clever use of the dollar sign, though.

Re:The same as everyone else (2, Interesting)

DECS (891519) | about 7 years ago | (#19670137)

For all that can be complained of .Mac, it has no ads.

--


ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley Says Apple's iPhone Needs ActiveSync
Mary Jo Foley, who describes her ZDNet blog as "an unblinking eye on Microsoft," seems to have been charged with the unpleasant task of producing a somewhat positive sounding iPhone story, and gave it her best shot. Unfortunately, it wasn't very well thought out, and reflects a preoccupation with flattering Microsoft.

Re:The same as everyone else (1)

CrabbMan (724775) | about 7 years ago | (#19670199)

Yeah, for a hundred bucks a year [apple.com] for 1Gig of storage, I'd say there'd better not be any ads.

yes! how! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670293)

Yes! ads! on the! service! just like! everyone! else! you don't! know! what is is! but it's! insult! to injury! very insightful!

Seriously, who mods these comments up? Pownce [pownce.com] is Kevin Rose's (of Digg) new venture, and it looks like they're fine with the adverts:

Can my company buy advertisements?

But of course. We haven't had the chance to build a self-service advertising system (something we might do in the future) so send us an email to advertising@pownce.com and we'll work with you to run a campaign that suits your needs. Big or small, we can likely build a campaign with you.

Just like everybody else. But this is "M$" so it's "insult to injury". Way to go.

And .mac? That's a great example, considering they don't have ads because they nail you for $99/yr (or $200 "for the kids"). Only Mac users who have no clue about teh interwebs sign up for that crap. Of course, for $99 a year I can only expect I won't see any ads. But you never know.

Re:Too little... (1)

jt2377 (933506) | about 7 years ago | (#19669791)

why? Not everything created by Google is a home run. MS also enter the Game console late as well and Xbox360 is doing better than expected. If you don't even enter the market, how do you know it's too little and late? how do you know MS's online storage is too little? it's in beta and have you sign up to try it?

Re:Too little... (1)

DECS (891519) | about 7 years ago | (#19670235)

Certainly Google can stumble, but what did you say about the 360 entering late and doing better than expected? HAHA!

The 360 jumped the gun on the next gen consoles, so it entered the game a year ahead of the Wii and PS3. Even so, Microsoft had to stuff the channel unmercifully just to meet its US goals. It has not done anything in foreign markets, and in the US it satiated the market and has not been doing well.

This spring, Microsoft even dropped their 5 million estimate for the first half of 07 down to 2. The growth is dead, and the Wii is outpacing it rapidly, even with an exclusive year head start for the 360. The market is panning both the 360 and PS3 as more of the same, and sales are very much not doing even as good as expected.

It's one thing to be excited about a product, but don't make up shit that isn't remotely true just because you like playing xbox.

Myth 7:The Xbox Success Myth [roughlydrafted.com]
Ten Myths of the Apple TV: Xbox and Hardware [roughlydrafted.com]

Re:Too little... (4, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | about 7 years ago | (#19669927)

AOL's XDrive.com has been offering 5 GB for free about 6 months now.

Re:Too little... (2, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | about 7 years ago | (#19670159)

Wow. Usually when AOL offers something, it's a sure sign that the fad around it is over.

Re:Too little... (4, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | about 7 years ago | (#19670023)

Too little...too late, and too Microsoft.
No kidding. I've seen MySpace pages bigger than that.

Re:Too little... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670117)

...Searching for Windows Vista PrOn Compression utility... here it is .. sweet!!

"We"? Speak for yourself. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669705)

I still hate Microsoft, and still love Google. You hear that Google? I love you, and this submitter doesn't. When you take over the world, you know who had your back.

Re:"We"? Speak for yourself. (1)

AchiIIe (974900) | about 7 years ago | (#19669815)

Have you tried it yet?

Don't speak so fast, competition is ultimately good for the consumer.

Here you go, give it a spin: http://folders.live.com/ [live.com]

Re:"We"? Speak for yourself. (4, Informative)

AchiIIe (974900) | about 7 years ago | (#19669973)

Meh, I spoke too fast.

I tried it. It sucks.
Nothing innovative, plain old technologies. You go to a page with 5 filename inputs, you select each file, you put them in folders, you share certain folders.

Screenshots:
* http://tinyurl.com/2vaa7e [tinyurl.com] (main page)
* http://tinyurl.com/38fsb9 [tinyurl.com] (uploading screen )
* http://tinyurl.com/2j53kp [tinyurl.com] (folder with files)

It does not seem to be "mountable" either.

Re:"We"? Speak for yourself. (1)

John3 (85454) | about 7 years ago | (#19670165)

Probably still in the early stages in terms of features and interface. They need to work out the performance and reliability issues and get some user feedback from the initial testers. They obviously are taking it slow because they are limiting the hours the server is even available for use during the initial test.

Google already done it... indirectly (5, Informative)

Yoooder (1038520) | about 7 years ago | (#19669707)

GMail storage anyone? It lets you use your GMails many GB's of storage as a network drive. 500 fixed MB is pretty paltry in comparison...

Huge penis failure (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669771)

In your pants! [goatse.cz]

The Lone Troller

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (4, Informative)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 7 years ago | (#19669779)

And will be doing it for real shortly with Gdrive [google.com] , which is apparently no longer a rumor.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (2, Funny)

cperciva (102828) | about 7 years ago | (#19670121)

[Gdrive] is apparently no longer a rumor.

I think you mean "Gdrive has been rumoured for the past year to no longer be just a rumour". There's no announcement or even confirmation from Google.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (2, Interesting)

Yoooder (1038520) | about 7 years ago | (#19669817)

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

Utopia (149375) | about 7 years ago | (#19669835)

Hotmail also offers mailbox sizes with several GBs.
The primary problem with mail based storage is that you have to split the files and use http form upload.
Http form uploads are very unreliable.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 7 years ago | (#19670265)

The primary problem with mail based storage is that you have to split the files and use http form upload. Http form uploads are very unreliable.

Uh, or you can just use POP/SMTP, as GMail supports that.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (4, Informative)

Chabil Ha' (875116) | about 7 years ago | (#19669979)

Yes, but you can only send emails that are a maximum of 20MB. I'd love to have to split up a bunch of archives in 20MB chunks...

That aside, the mere fact that nobody can be held liable for the lost of data and that backups are likely not made, I wouldn't feel bery comfortable with the data being there as a means of recovery.

Already a free alternative (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | about 7 years ago | (#19670025)

There's a free service called Openomy [openomy.com] which offers 1GB of free "network drive" space.

The whole thing seems very dot-com-era-ish to me; I'm not clear on how they're going to make money off of it, and until I understand their business model I'm not going to trust them with anything valuable, but hey -- it would beat emailing myself stuff. Apparently they're going to offer "Premium Memberships" in the future which will offer extra services (this sounds a little like "3. ???", but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt).

They have an open API, and file organization is done via tags (which is either a bug or a neat feature depending on your stance on tags vs folder-hierarchies in terms of organizational paradigms). The API is similar, in some ways to Flickr's -- applications need to be authorized before they can access user data, using cryptographic keys, and it uses simple HTTP calls for the actual interaction/transfer.

Anyway, I haven't played with it much but I'm definitely pretty intrigued. I think that online file storage is definitely harder to monetize than free email (you can't offer context-sensitive ads when the user only accesses the site through an API and a frontend app, and if their files are all encrypted archives or something), but it seems like there are enough possibilities that we're going to see some serious competition in the market soon.

And there's nothing better than a bunch of cash-flush tech companies competing to give the most stuff away for free...reminds me of 1998...

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

w3stfa11 (1093355) | about 7 years ago | (#19670069)

Xdrive [xdrive.com] is what you're looking for. It's got 5GB just for you with no attachment limit.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670313)

What's the deal with their certificate chain? xdrive signed by "VeriSign" (no, not the right Verisign) that is signed by an AOL dialup user-issued certificate?

Why do they fake a certificate of VeriSign? And once you accept the chain, what else will this new "VeriSign" sign for you?

Something doesn't smell right here.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670071)

Google is ahead of them, this is MS's response. Platypus [downloadsquad.com] and more on Platypus [outer-court.com] .

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

Jugalator (259273) | about 7 years ago | (#19670083)

Gmail is awkward though. Mostly because it's intended for mail, and comes with a 20 MB attachment limit. There are workarounds like GDrive and stuff, but if this service would come with actual merged files without cludges to solve the limitations, I'd much rather use that.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

DogDude (805747) | about 7 years ago | (#19670099)

You're talking about a bad workaround, in violation of the Gmail terms of use. MS actually might get to free online storage before Google. It's obvious they're playing catch up, but if they can do it, it'll still be big among the rest of the population that are not Slashdot freaks.

Re:Google already done it... indirectly (1)

Anonymous McCartneyf (1037584) | about 7 years ago | (#19670139)

And Yahoo!Mail now has unlimited storage, plus links to a blog site (for public storage--complete with photo album option) and what used to be Flicker. Their e-mail folder actually has links for "photos" and "attachments."

subby loses (-1, Offtopic)

timmarhy (659436) | about 7 years ago | (#19669711)

no one except MS fan boys hates google, so far their track record is as good as you can hope for

Re:subby loses (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 7 years ago | (#19670039)

Now that's a lie. I think most of the people singling Google out for privacy are stupid(everyone else regularly does much worse and nobody calls them up on it) but there are quite a few non-MS-lovers who think Google is evil. The obvious one is the GoogleWatch guy although he's mostly mad that nobody linked to his website so he got no PageRank.

Re:subby loses (1)

Goaway (82658) | about 7 years ago | (#19670217)

Actually, no, he just suffers from that particular kind of paranoid schizophrenia that makes people write huge amounts of incoherent text on badly-designed websites, and draw diagrams with lots of images and arrows (http://www.google-watch.org/gifs/connec5.gif).

Oh puhlease (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669717)

That's not even enough space for a regular linux ISO. Come on Microsoft, you can do better than 500MB - it's about time you helped getting decent software out to the masses. /me ducks

Love for... (5, Funny)

ajenteks (943860) | about 7 years ago | (#19669719)

They're offering it to a select 5,000 test users for now
... each and every one of the Zune adopters?

Re:Love for... (5, Funny)

whiteranger99x (235024) | about 7 years ago | (#19670153)

Sure, but where do the other 4995 test users come from?

You've Got To Be Kidding... (3, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 7 years ago | (#19669723)

Would that all my "stolen" music and "pirated" movies would fit in 500MB.

Frankly, MS, that's smaller than my current USB drive, and that drive isn't actually very large by today's standards. And it has faster access, too.

It's easier, when I want to store something, to GMail it to myself. They have over 5X this amount of storage -- and aren't Microsoft!

Re:You've Got To Be Kidding... (3, Informative)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 7 years ago | (#19669811)

"It's easier, when I want to store something, to GMail it to myself. They have over 5X this amount of storage..."

And a 20 megabyte attachment limit.

cool (1)

blhack (921171) | about 7 years ago | (#19669731)

Evil microsoft aside, this is actually pretty cool. I know that i keep quite a few little apps and docs and stuff inside of $home so that i can grab them via scp (pscp on windows). With this service, I won't have to go through the steps of googling PSCP, then downloading it to whoever's C:\WINDOWS\system32\ folder. Most of these files used to reside on a flash drive, but given the ubiquity of high speed internet these days, the necessity of keeping a 2-3mb file on removable media seems to be kindof gone.

This service just simplifies a process that most /. users probably perform several times a day.

I'll let you in on a little secret (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669789)

ftp.exe

Re:I'll let you in on a little secret (1)

blhack (921171) | about 7 years ago | (#19669945)

Most home DSL connections use a dynamic IP address, not to mention the fact that upstream spead on my cable modem is something around 30kbps.

Re:I'll let you in on a little secret (1)

nschubach (922175) | about 7 years ago | (#19670257)

http://www.dyndns.org/ [dyndns.org] (and my Linksys router updates it auto-magically every time it changes) 30kbps = 2MB file in 9-10 minutes(?) You still have to upload the file even with the internet drive alternative. Either way, your going to take at least 9 minutes for that 2 MB file. The difference being, one you can do while you wait for your coffee to brew while shooting the shit with your coworker and the other you can do when you leave for work. It's a matter of preference I guess. Then again. If you have an FTP server at work, you can just upload it and leave for work as well. The FTP solution has so much more flexibility.

Re:cool (1)

timmarhy (659436) | about 7 years ago | (#19669859)

what the hell? how does do anything that isn't out there and million times better do?

Re:cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669911)

> what the hell? how does do anything that isn't out there and million times better do?

Not does do anything that isn't out there and million times better does?

Re:cool (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 7 years ago | (#19669909)

Set up a WebDAV server with SSL, then you can just mount it as a folder using the 'Web Folders' thing in Explorer, mount it on a *NIX box, or use any of a large number of tools for accessing it.

Re:cool (1)

Threni (635302) | about 7 years ago | (#19669991)

> This service just simplifies a process that most /. users probably perform several times a day.

Except most Slashdot users have figured out that Google offer the same, only with almost 6 times as much storage, and with an email address thrown in.

Re:cool (1)

fireman sam (662213) | about 7 years ago | (#19670089)

http://folders.live.com/ [live.com] http://tou.live.com/en-us/default.aspx

Section 8: ...snip...

However, by posting or otherwise providing your submission, you are granting to the public free permission to:

        * use, copy, distribute, display, publish and modify your submission, each in connection with the service;
        * publish your name in connection with your submission; and
        * grant these permissions to other persons.

Re:cool (1)

John3 (85454) | about 7 years ago | (#19670131)

I agree with you on this. Been testing Windows Home Server which also offers remote access to files. With the availability of high speed Internet service (I have FIOS at home...blazes) I really don't see why someone (novice or average user) would want to maintain a home server or even a NAS device. Just use Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, whomever for remote file storage. Flickr [flickr.com] already does something similar but just limited to photos. They provide an easy to use upload location, tools to manage the photos, and tons of space.

Hate what? (4, Insightful)

jshriverWVU (810740) | about 7 years ago | (#19669737)

This move is the latest in a series by the previous large corporation we all loved to hate to compete with the newest large corporation we might hate and fear, Google.

Wait what? We hate who... I can guess we all dislike MS, but I dont think fear or hate should be in the same sentence with Google.

Re:Hate what? (4, Interesting)

Zeebs (577100) | about 7 years ago | (#19669939)

Google hasn't burned it's social credit with tech types, yet. I'm not claiming they will, and I'd like to think they won't.(Why yes I am interested in buying a bridge why do you ask?) I think the might hate and fear is a little strong but not far off in meaning.

Re:Hate what? (1)

orkysoft (93727) | about 7 years ago | (#19670045)

Lately, some Slashdotters have been posting about how they fear Google is going to know everything and abuse this knowledge. I noticed there has been a lot of this "Googlebashing" going on lately. I don't know whether it's just a few loudmouth posters, or a general feeling of unease among many posters, or just MS astroturfing.

Re:Hate what? (4, Funny)

russotto (537200) | about 7 years ago | (#19670113)

Lately, some Slashdotters have been posting about how they fear Google is going to know everything and abuse this knowledge.
Yeah. The difference is that while it's fear and caution with Google, it's the next best thing to certain knowledge with Microsoft. Entrusting your data to Microsoft is like entrusting your hand to the garbage disposal.

Re:Hate what? (1)

vux984 (928602) | about 7 years ago | (#19670299)

"hate" - no, not yet. No real reason to hate.

But

"fear" - definitely. The bigger they get and the more information they accumulate the easier it will be for them abuse their power.

The best way to ensure people or corporations or governments don't abuse their power is to refuse to give it to them in the first place. Trusting them because they're the 'good guys' is a very distant second place.

At this stage google has enough marketshare in search, and enough presence in email, analytics, google payments, social networking, stuff like youtube, etc that the potential for abuse is becoming enormous. If you have any sort of google account they can link a tremendous amount of stuff to it if they wanted to... or if they are ordered by a court to. Even if you don't have a google account, they can link a tremendous amount of information together, and possibly even identify you.

For example if you so much as reply to someone with a gmail address google gets a source ip address they can link to search history if they wanted to. Sure its not fool proof, and yes ip addresses change all the time... but its reliable enough to be useful for some tasks, and promising enough to be alluring to those who'd want to abuse it. After all, the number of households who've used the ip address I currently have in the last 18 months is probably around 2-3.

The point is googles 'net' is now wide enough, that it can snare almost anyone. Simply having that much power, even if they don't currently plan to use or abuse it is clearly a much higher risk than if they simply didn't have that power in the first place. Perhaps paranoid levels of 'fear' are unjustified, but they've reached the point where their moves should be scrutinized with caution. And then there is always risk that they'll be coerced to abuse that power by government.

No problem, I one for one welcome... (5, Funny)

605dave (722736) | about 7 years ago | (#19669759)

I wonder if that enough disk space for all my most sensitive documents.

Because if there is one company I trust not to abuse their power...

Interesting Combination of Apps Coming Up (5, Interesting)

popo (107611) | about 7 years ago | (#19669805)

It should probably be noted that Microsoft also bought FolderShare.com (which is a very sweet little app).

The free-storage combined with FolderShare's file swapping is starting to paint an interesting picture... IMHO I wouldn't discount this as "trying to be like Gmail"...

Re:Interesting Combination of Apps Coming Up (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | about 7 years ago | (#19669923)

This isn't nearly like "trying to be like gmail". If it was, it would have significantly more storage space (as was mentioned earlier) and would allow access via standardized hooks. Any bet on the microsoft product implementing a broken virtual filesystem design that only works with Windows Vista?

Here's hoping Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19669807)

Comes out with something similar.

This is a killer product offering, and having something clean and open would be great.

I'm thinking Google Talk (ie, Jabber with any client able to connect) vs MSN Messenger

If you haven't already, time to get going Google!

Re:Here's hoping Google (0, Troll)

timmarhy (659436) | about 7 years ago | (#19669887)

how the fuck is this anything killer? news flash storing files on teh intarweb is nothing new.

What does it mean (2, Interesting)

pembo13 (770295) | about 7 years ago | (#19669819)

When I rather the evil Google corp have (some) of my data than Microsoft have any of my data?

Would you like a chocoleet! (1)

Adambomb (118938) | about 7 years ago | (#19669823)

GMailFS [wikipedia.org] . Why wait to see how long before microsofts offerings are available.

Overhead is a bit of a pain but its certainly useable, unless you're wanting to swap to it of course =).

500M document (1)

zakeria (1031430) | about 7 years ago | (#19669843)

with all the crud thats included in their document formats you'd think they would have the scenes to give quite a bit more space than 500M this is an excellent opportunity to embed some MP3's / Movies or even Linux distro's inside the documents... warez

Omnidrive (4, Informative)

Simon Garlick (104721) | about 7 years ago | (#19669845)

www.omnidrive.com

Users get 1Gb free, and up to 50Gb is available if you want to pay.

Disclaimer: not a shill, just a happy beta tester.

Re:Omnidrive (1)

Jugalator (259273) | about 7 years ago | (#19670101)

I can't really rely on a service to host a full 1 GB if it's
1. Still in beta
2. Of an unknown brand. Yes, it matters. A well known company has much much more PR to lose if they mess up. A startup company has very little.

yahoo? (1)

euice (953774) | about 7 years ago | (#19669875)

I sure can understand yahoo writing such a story: Only compare your dick with smaller ones.

I'd love to see the EULA (4, Interesting)

RobertM1968 (951074) | about 7 years ago | (#19669883)

The most relevant information to this whole thing (to me) is the EULA MS is foisting on people. Some of their previous EULAs for their online properties have included giving them the right to sell, market and/or redistribute any content you create and upload to those online properties. That, and other privacy issues (using the information to profile you in some manner and then sell ads to you via their LiveSearch stuff for instance - as referenced in a previous post regarding their work on obtaining as much private, identifying data on people as possible) are things I'd like to see clearly addressed and spelled out in their EULA.

I am also interested in how this all fits in with their current DRM schemes and related practices. Will they DRM any music I upload? Report me to the RIAA? Assume the program archives I upload are pirated and sue me?

All in all, I see this service as one for only the brain dead - based off MS's previous track record for trustability. (Yeah, it's probably not a real word, get over it).

they've got complete access to those files now so- (1)

Locutus (9039) | about 7 years ago | (#19669885)

it's no big deal if you're worried about that. And if you're worried about security.... WTF are you doing on Windows to begin with? ;-)

I can see the lemmings falling over themselves to jump off this cliff already.

LoB

Re:they've got complete access to those files now (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 7 years ago | (#19669961)

they don't have access to MY files.

I never run MS update, live. I use the offline method and my xp box NEVER connects directly to the net.

(ctupdate is the thing I use. I now swear by it.)

never let your winblows box 'autoupdate' itself ever again. always update OFFLINE. much more sane, that way. and secure.

Re:they've got complete access to those files now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670015)

> never let your winblows box 'autoupdate' itself ever again.
> always update OFFLINE. much more sane, that way. and secure.

WTF are you talking about? Microsoft have full system access every time you install an update - you've no way of knowing what they're installing.

MiSpace (1)

kaos07 (1113443) | about 7 years ago | (#19669935)

Is that what they'll call it I wonder...

B-b-but it's F-F-FREE! (1)

Telecommando (513768) | about 7 years ago | (#19669951)

Of course we all know Microsoft would never, EVER mine your personal data for it's own gain.

Pass. Mostly because I have no need of it.

Between my music player, camera SD cards and USB sticks, I'm carrying nearly 18G of storage in my pockets right now.

Free? Perhaps you already paid for it! (1)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | about 7 years ago | (#19670093)

I didn't RTFA or RTFS, but if this is only for Windows users then you've long ago paid for this with your Windows purchase.

If not locked in to MS, then expect some sort of incentives of the form 500MB for everyone, 2GB for Vista systems. A nice low-cost bait to get people to buy a high price product.

Great. Just great. (1)

sweetandy (1051830) | about 7 years ago | (#19669981)

That's a brilliant idea! I can't wait to read the EULA saying "Microsoft Corp can at any time access, copy, edit, and delete any and all files uploaded by users for whatever users." Except in a quieter way. Awe this is great, as if privacy ever existed with MSFT! I hope that there isn't a single sorry sod who falls for this nonsense.

Not Enough! (1)

BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) | about 7 years ago | (#19670007)

> Microsoft Corp. is giving computer users up to 500 megabytes of online storage

500Mb is not enough. It should be at least enough to store an upload of a Vista DVD. ;)

> This move is the latest in a series ... of companies doing exactly what someone else has already done. Oooh look! Someone's written a web browser!

One question (2, Funny)

edwardpickman (965122) | about 7 years ago | (#19670019)

Are viruses included in that 500 meg total? They could really cut into that 500 meg number.

Warez, pr0n, MP3's... (1)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | about 7 years ago | (#19670043)

Won't take long for the "creative programmer" community to turn Microsoft's new offering into a wonderful, free, shared, non-traceable BIG FILE SERVER for all the warez, pr0n, and MP3's they'd like to keep online.

Microsoft isn't competing with Google, they're competing with Pirate Bay. Why torrent or FTP when you can just mount a drive?

If you like the little guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19670059)

Try XDrive at www.xdrive.com. 5 gig for free.

once upon a time.. (1)

josepha48 (13953) | about 7 years ago | (#19670063)

.. I use hotmail. then MS bought them, and converted over to IIS. They promptly lost some of my email. When I contacted them about it, they said, sorry, we cannot recover it. Ever since then I have not trusted MS with my email, so I can't see trusting them with my documents either.

Also consider that for less than $40 USD, you can get a 4Gig usb drive, why do you really need this online storage?

I've got it covered (4, Funny)

Statecraftsman (718862) | about 7 years ago | (#19670073)

I'm perfectly capable of losing my files and documents all by myself. Thanks anyway.

i will store? (1)

vx922 (1108955) | about 7 years ago | (#19670079)

the finest in goatse and hot shemale action

Format of the storage... (3, Funny)

Vexler (127353) | about 7 years ago | (#19670129)

...will be a .PST file.

First 500 MB are free? That is, until it hits that 2 GB limit. Then everything goes down the toilet.

Trust (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 7 years ago | (#19670169)

Who would honesty trust their data to some company that you dont even have a valid contract with? ( i dont care if its yahoo, microsoft, or countless others )

Sure, if you are paying customer to a remote datacenter with TOS, i can see this, but some free service that is subject to terms that change on a dime, security holes all over the place, or it might suddenly dissapear?

No thanks, ill stick with my ( encrypted ) 2gb usb key, that doesnt even need network access.

Awesome (1)

obeythefist (719316) | about 7 years ago | (#19670221)

Microsoft will compete with Google, maybe they will compete in terms of volume, so we will get about 2GB from MS and 2GB from Google as well. If I make up enough dummy accounts I can back my whole home network up over the wire. And distributed too! MS can keep one copy and Google can keep the other. That way if one destroys the other when the war comes, I'll still have a good backup.

Admiral Akbar: "It's a Trap!" (3, Insightful)

CheeseburgerBrown (553703) | about 7 years ago | (#19670251)

This is an obvious honeypot ploy to draw unsuspecting, God-fearing users everywhere to upload their copywrong material and thereby indict themselves for extraordinary rendering by a nefarious acronym.

Run away! Run away!

Now you have to read the EULA! (1)

jskline (301574) | about 7 years ago | (#19670253)

I betcha!!! Just read the EULA before you sign up for the *free* service. A requirement buried in the document will state that at any time they can seize your documents or files and use them for any purpose what-so-ever without any responsibility to you--not even financially. And the lawyers will make sure of that.

Better not put anything up there that is important!

Hi I'm a Mac 7500 ... (0, Offtopic)

ta ma de (851887) | about 7 years ago | (#19670267)

I was made in 1997 and I want my freakin hard drive back.

Paranoia, or is it? (1)

Ub3rT3Rr0R1St (920830) | about 7 years ago | (#19670281)

Who knows if this is just a way for the "good folks" at MS to get a look at their client's common files, and use it as some sort of marketing ploy for spam and whatnot.

I say this, because the ISP I used to work for, whose name I won't mention, used to scan customer e-mails, and require that we ask for alternate e-mails for spamming purposes.

Honestly, if this is MS's scheme, it really wouldn't surprise me.

If it isn't the case, and this is just for the sake of competition, then MS should realize that they're name and quality has been smeared enough, and they should try to improve on their current merchandising ventures instead of dabbling with new ones. For God's sake, make what you already have actually function, don't just make more and more useless crap.

Privacy issues? What about using TrueCrypt? (1)

SpecialAgentXXX (623692) | about 7 years ago | (#19670347)

As I read this article, the very first thing that popped into my head was privacy issues. We've all ready how the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. accessed AT&T's phone records, etc. I wouldn't put it past them if they are already accessing and data-mining Yahoo! and Google E-mail.

The service gives users who e-mail documents between home and work computers an alternative way to access their files on the go. Users can keep files private or share them with people they know or with anyone on the Web.

When I need to take some of my work home with me to finish it up, I always use TrueCrypt [truecrypt.org] to create a volume and use AES-Twofish-Serpent with Whirlpool. Since it is free, I recommend that everyone here use it. You have nothing to lose if you do and if you don't - you don't want to be in the news as the employee who lost another database of customer records.

Sadly, "in this day and age (tm)," you need to be vigilant of all of your data as everyone from hackers to governments want to see what you are doing.
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