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Military Running a Parallel Earth Simulator

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the in-that-reality-i'm-an-ardent-fan-of-this dept.

Supercomputing 470

Fantastic Lad writes "The US Department of Defense (DOD) may already be creating a copy of you in an alternate reality. Putting supercomputers to an innovative use, the military is simulating our planet in an effort to predict the outcome of different scenarios. They might run tests to see how long 'you' can go without food or water, or how 'you' will respond to televised propaganda. Billions of nodes are created in the system, intended to reflect every man, woman, and child. 'Called the Sentient World Simulation (SWS), it will be a "synthetic mirror of the real world with automated continuous calibration with respect to current real-world information", according to a concept paper for the project. Simulex is the company developing these systems, and they list pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly and defense contractor Lockheed Martin among their private sector clients. The U.S. military is their biggest customer, apparently now running the most complex version of the system. JFCOM-9 is now capable of running real-time simulations for up to 62 nations, including Iraq, Afghanistan, and China. The simulations gobble up breaking news, census data, economic indicators, and climactic events in the real world, along with proprietary information such as military intelligence."

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The political options (4, Interesting)

Harmonious Botch (921977) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696467)

Does it have a 'no George Bush' option to see how the world would be doing without him?

Seriously, I wonder how much the current fiasco in Iraq has to do with the desire for this program. There are probably a lot of people who would like to have been able to say: "Mr. President, our supercomputers say that this is a bad idea."

It could be used for politics. Imagine someone from Ron Paul's campaign saying: "Our ideas are better, and now we can finally prove it!"

PS: Hey, Zonk! It is spelled 'parallel'.

Re:The political options (5, Insightful)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696485)

I can see it now:

  • Chance of desired outcome: 21.7%
  • Chance of desired outcome if media claims this system said chance of desired outcome was > 90%: 97.3%

Re:The political options (1)

deathy_epl+ccs (896747) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696833)

heheheheh. S'truth!

Re:The political options (4, Interesting)

PDXNerd (654900) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696549)

For the US military, it will more than likely be used to simulate the economic and political fallout of potential US movement, be it military, political, or financial. What does the world do if the US invades Iran? Engages militants in Africa? "Acquires" even more of the world's precious resources? Which nations will be the loudest enemies? Which will be our friends?
 
Do you want to play thermonuclear war, etc?

It's not so much the "prove we are better" aspect, but "how can we stay on top when we decide to throw a little chaos in the mix?". The big dog needs to stay the big dog. Real time intelligence is one thing, but now they have "response forecasting".

Re:The political options (1)

lazy genes (741633) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696579)

Or,What would happen if we gave every monkey a loaded gun?

Re:The political options (3, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696731)

Or,What would happen if we gave every monkey a loaded gun?

Whatever it is, it looks like Shakespear.
       

What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696607)

Running from a fight isn't always the right thing to do. And if you think Iraq is a fiasco, look at how many people died from not standing up to Hitler early enough. Hint: it's not measured in thousands, but TENS of MILLIONS.

Face facts: right now, in Iraq the US is fighting a war against the agents of Iran.

And the rhetoric coming out of Iran is straight out of Mein Kampf. Except this time around the ubermensch are Islamic, and the subhumans who deserve to die are infidels, "crusaders", and - once again - the Jews. Imagine that.

Only this time, the megalomaniac will have nukes, and since he's not just a power-hungry despot but a religious fanatic, he won't be afraid to use them. How many UN resolutions do you think it will take to stop Iran's nuclear program?

So yeah, let's run a simulation where Iran's rulers get their way in the Middle East. How many nukes do you think it'll take them to "wipe Israel off the map"? Hey, that's what they OPENLY SAY they're going to do.

Re:What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (1, Insightful)

baldass_newbie (136609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696657)

How many UN resolutions do you think it will take to stop Iran's nuclear program?

Well we now know the US needs more than 18 UN resolutions and 3 Congressional authorizations in order to go to war. That's what Bush had for Iraq and he sure won't touch Darfur or Iran with one jot less than that.

Re:What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696729)

Holy shit, take a bath will you... The stench of bullshit coming from you is overwhelming.

Re:What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696669)

Good thing you posted anonymously because your retarded bullshit lies and delusion might cause people to disassociate with you if anyone actually knew who you were.

Re:What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696889)

Thanks for the tip, Kettle.

Re:What if Neville Chamberlain had a backbone? (4, Insightful)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696861)

Only this time, the megalomaniac will have nukes, and since he's not just a power-hungry despot but a religious fanatic, he won't be afraid to use them. How many UN resolutions do you think it will take to stop Iran's nuclear program?

Ignoring your misunderstanding of Iran (it's a democracy that's elected itself a theocracy: "them" is more appropriate), there's a simple answer to your question:

Zero.

If Iran gets nukes, and uses said nuclear weapons as you suggest, there will be no more Iran. The President won't even need to go to Congress -- there are extant laws regarding USA's nuclear doctrine, and a surprise attack with a nuclear weapon will result in the world's first, and only, nuclear counterattack. (Why, exactly, do you think Israel doesn't declare its nuclear weapons? Because their real nuclear arsenal is the United States' arsenal. Same deal we have with Japan and Germany.)

Yes, a bunch of people would die. And the face of world politics would be forever changed. But Iran knows this, the Iranian people and the Iranian government are smart, and they know that the only way they can guarantee the end of their country is to actually nuke Israel. Heck, an Iranian nuclear attack might wind up getting their entire religion declared a criminal conspiracy in the west, which would make the current post-9/11 prejudice look like a walk in the park.

Re:The political options (4, Informative)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696759)

I'd argue that that using prediction markets like the ill-fated Policy Analysis Market [gmu.edu] work much better for predicting future events. It's really too bad that there was an kneejerk media firestorm in response to the Policy Analysis Market, which killed it off before it could even get started.

Personally... (4, Funny)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696761)

... I think this will lead to the opposite.

"Mr. President, we found a scenario in which Iraq will become th 52nd US State, oil will flow freely, WMDs were found in Saddam's closet, and bin-Laden was found in his bedroom."
"Excellent! Invade!"

Re:The political options (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696773)

PARALLEL EARTH SIMULATOR.

ENTER DESIRED SIMULATION: no George Bush

RUNNING...

SOLUTION: Al Gore is last US president, signs terms of capitulation that forms world-wide Islamic state under Sharia law.

Re:The political options (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696811)

Good to see the last 30% of believers in Chimpy McFlighsuit are working overtime on /.

Re:The political options (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696803)

FTSummary: "Billions of nodes are created in the system ...."

And you will individually be connected to your node as the implantable sockets become available.

Go, government!

Re:The political options (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696843)

Answer: nothing.

The military, the CIA, because that's their job, and they're quite good at it, will run scenarios.

But as long as morons such as El Presidente and monomaniacs such as The Dick can tell whoever ran those scenarios "the outcome is this, cuz I said so", it won't matter a damn.

So Chris Carter was right? (2, Insightful)

jockm (233372) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696469)

When he made Harsh Realm [imdb.com] ?

Alternate reality... (5, Funny)

lelitsch (31136) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696471)

Where "parallel" is spelled "paralell".

Re:Alternate reality... (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696681)

Where "parallel" is spelled "paralell".

Quantum Nag Principle: Splits only if the observer notices it.
     

Re:Alternate reality... (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696697)

Bah.. Like that darned simulator predicted this thread.... Hey wait a second.. the simulation turns conscious when all the news reports talk about it.

Re:Alternate reality... (1)

chris_sawtell (10326) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696859)

'Nother one right here where spelt is spelt spelled.

The downside... (4, Funny)

ktakki (64573) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696477)

The downside is that the full version of this simulator will be powered by the electro-chemical activity of six billion human beings.

Whoa.

k.

Nah, that's not creepy. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696483)

Besides, I have nothing to worry about.

W.O.P.R. (4, Funny)

Citizen of Earth (569446) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696489)

Called the Sentient World Simulation (SWS)

They should have called it W.O.P.R.

Re:W.O.P.R. (0)

Mister Transistor (259842) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696611)

I'll take mine with cheese, thanks!

Re:W.O.P.R. (1)

plutonium83 (818340) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696713)

Would you like to play.... a game?

Re:W.O.P.R. (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696779)

They should have called it W.O.P.R.

Version 7.0 better matches the chubiness of modern Americans, and is thus called W.O.P.P.E.R.
       

My virtual self? (3, Funny)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696497)

My virtual self would be contemplating my thoughts and actions on it's virtual self causing the entire simulation to hit an infinate spawning of threads... And lets hope I don't think if I am actually a virtual node in a computer.

Re:My virtual self? (2, Funny)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696599)

I wonder if my virtual self gets laid.

Re:My virtual self? (1)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696623)

Your virtual self gets a virtual lay, same ol' porn, palm & tissue. sorry dude.

Re:My virtual self? (2, Interesting)

megaditto (982598) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696727)

How do you know that you aren't a simulation for some real Joe Blow out there, hmm?

Paralell...? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696499)

New rule: if you can't spell, you can't smoke pot.

Hand it over, Zonk.

Oh really? (2, Funny)

TodMinuit (1026042) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696501)

Anyone have a torrent for it? ThePirateBay turned up nothing.

Ultimate Sim City? (4, Funny)

g-san (93038) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696503)

I sure hope it comes complete with options to unleash a tidal wave, hurricane, rioters, and UFOs, just to you know, see what happens.

Re:Ultimate Sim City? (4, Funny)

Kesch (943326) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696867)

Where do you think Katrina came from?

Paralell? (0, Redundant)

abshnasko (981657) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696505)

Are you joking?

hmm?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696523)

I thought I was already in one???

Let's play Global Thermonuclear War. (2, Funny)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696525)

Fine witch side do you want?

Re:Let's play Global Thermonuclear War. (3, Funny)

loucura! (247834) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696707)

The cockroaches, please.

Re:Let's play Global Thermonuclear War. (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696783)

witch side do you want?
1. USA 2. NON US side of Iraq 3. China. 4. north korea 5. north vietnam 6. UK 7. Russia 8. cuba 9. iran 10. germany 11. france 12. canada 13. US Civil war north 14. US Civil south 15. japan.
16. show next page

Re:Let's play Global Thermonuclear War. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696785)

Fine witch side do you want?

I don't believe in witches.

(Can anyone spell anymore?)

Hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696535)

I seem to recall reading something about some white mice trying to build a simulation like this in order to find the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I also read that if the question and answer were both found the universe would be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

I also read that the answer was 42 and that the replacement has already happened...

If they're doing Norway... (4, Funny)

jjeffries (17675) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696545)

I do hope they get the fjords right... lovely crinkly edges...

Re:If they're doing Norway... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696617)

I wonder why the US Military wants to know the question to the ultimate answer?

Re:If they're doing Norway... (2, Funny)

DebateG (1001165) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696895)

They'll be fine with the fjords as long as they can get some reticulating splines.

google... (1)

saleenS281 (859657) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696551)

and now you understand the big picture like google does :)

Re:google... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696621)

If there does not exist a conspiracy theory where Google is a front for CIA+NSA, it need be invented.

PS. Reading the blurb made my tiny nerd-pecker come in my pants.

Just save are money and say.. (3, Insightful)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696555)

the only winning move is not to play

how about a good game of chess?

and then move the supercomputers back to the star gate at NORAD

Start by simulating the stock market (1)

Ardipithecus (985280) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696561)

Know what people will buy or sell

Get rich

Really? (1)

Disharmony2012 (998431) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696563)

I didn't know the end of the world was coming this soon.

Simulate itself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696565)

If you program it to simulate itself, does it start smoking and spitting out sparks?

Yes, but... (3, Funny)

Kesch (943326) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696575)

Can it win at Tic-Tac-Toe?

Re:Yes, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696683)

No, but it should come up with 42 at the end of the simulation.

Re:Yes, but... (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696823)

We tried that back in 2003 and it just ended up geting into a big loop and then the system overloaded taking down a big part of the us power gird with it.

Obl. Futurama? (2, Insightful)

n0dna (939092) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696585)

Fry: So, there's an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I'm sure that's enough.

I just hope... (3, Funny)

oconnorcjo (242077) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696601)

that I survive most of the scenarios. I would hate to get a visit from the police saying my virtual self has just died some horrific death and that I should get in better shape for "just in case". :)

Re:I just hope... (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696765)

that I survive most of the scenarios. I would hate to get a visit from the police saying my virtual self has just died some horrific death and that I should get in better shape for "just in case". :)

That is why nerd moms tell their nerd kids to always wear clean virtual underwear.
     

What movie? (1)

mpn14tech (716482) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696605)

This make me think of a B sci fi movie I saw many years ago and I can not remember the title of.

I think it was black and white. It was about a scientist who created a simulation of the world that he could watch under a microscope. As he watched history, which progressed at an accelerated rate, and a war happened he was attacked by a ghost of some kind. Just as history was to the point that he could see what would happen in the future he was attacked a final time by the ghost and had to destroy the experiment before the ghost killed him. I guess the moral being you are not allowed to know the future.

I may not have all the details correct, but maybe someone can tell me the name of that movie?

Re:What movie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696649)

"The Ghost that wouldn't let the Guy see the Future"

Re:What movie? (1)

baldass_newbie (136609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696677)

Small nit, but if ghosts are involved, it's no long 'sci fi' and is now 'fantasy'.

Re:What movie? (3, Informative)

FrnkMit (302934) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696817)

Actually, I think it was an Outer Limits episode (the old series). Could be "Wolf 359", but it's been ages since I've seen the series, and I'm only going by the plot synopsis on Wikipedia.

Frank

Re:What movie? (1)

mpn14tech (716482) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696849)

I think you are right. Many thanks.
Interesting name match with the Star Trek episode.

Which one are we? (2, Insightful)

TechHSV (864317) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696615)

How do we know we're not the one's being simulated?

Re:Which one are we? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696651)

How do we know we're not the one's being simulated?

Look for optimisations in the model.

Re:Which one are we? (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696679)

We don't [simulation-argument.com] :

" ABSTRACT. This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a "posthuman" stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed."

A what, now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696619)

Earth simulator? Earth simulator?

Anybody else reminded of the WOPR [wikipedia.org] ? That thing that collected aggregate data on the state of the world and then played a game of mutually-assured destruction? That thing that almost started World War III?

My plea to wardialers everywhere: do NOT call every number in Sunnyvale, California. Do NOT find an open NORAD line, do NOT guess a backdoor password, and for all our sakes, do NOT play a game of Global Thermonuclear War against the world's most powerful supercomputer in practical use.

typo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696631)

ParaLLel, not paraleLL

Re:typo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696655)

I hope that it will put forth the comment, "You are not saving the Earth. The Earth will do fine on its own. Save Humans."

Been done. (1)

Teclis (772299) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696643)

So it begins. I think we already know how this will end. [imdb.com]

Predicted Effect of Iraq Sanctions (4, Interesting)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696653)

Putting supercomputers to an innovative use, the military is simulating our planet in an effort to predict the outcome of different scenarios.


They've been doing that for a long time with or without computers. For example, during the first gulf war, Iraq's water treatment facilities were deliberately targeted. Later the DIA assessed the effect that sanctions restricting replacement parts and vital chemicals would have on the population.

Iraq depends on importing specialized equipment and some chemicals to purify its water supply, most of which is heavily mineralized and frequently brackish to saline. With no domestic sources of both water treatment replacement parts and some essential chemicals, Iraq will continue attempts to circumvent United Nations Sanctions to import these vital commodities. Failing to secure supplies will result in a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population. This could lead to increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.


So they accurately predicted that Iraqis would die because of the sanctions, and indeed they did, in droves. Denis Halliday who was running the humanitarian operation resigned, calling the sanctions "genocidal". His successor, Hans von Sponeck also resigned and condemned the sanctions and the effect they were having on the people.

I took the Blue pill.... (1, Redundant)

Lost Penguin (636359) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696661)

How would we know if we were the simulation?

Fork me! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696665)

Billions of nodes are created in the system, intended to reflect every man, woman, and child.

Am I an open-source node or a proprietary one? If the first, can they fork me into a rich articulate handsome dude?
       

Overheard in the lab... (1)

bobdotorg (598873) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696667)

Hey Joe! - WTF module did you just add? The simulation is slowing to a crawl.

Joe: Yeah, not sure what's going on here, I just recompiled after adding the Slashdot: (Comments Module). I didn't think it would make an appreciable difference, as adding the Slashdot: (Article Reading) made no noticeable difference in performance.

The George W. Bush Node... (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696671)

Only needs a TRS-80 to do his simulation -- and even with that, they have to screw up the dictionary and logic packages.

Parallllllllel. (3, Interesting)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696687)

Just for the record, I spelled it correctly when I submitted this nugget of weirdness. I also used the sentence, "Ever wonder what sort of company gets green lit to grab a share of the free flowing gobs of taxpayer Warbux?" but my brand of editorializing is a tad left of left.

The article seemed too dumb to be true, but guess what? The company is actually selling systems. I guess paranoia is as effective a sales tool when used on military budgeteers as it is when selling insurance to people. Better to spend a big pile of money on something which might possibly work, (unless it doesn't), rather than let somebody else maybe possibly get one up on you. Or something like that.

I seem to recall that Dr. Who had a parallel universe simulator in one episode. Seemed like a cool idea. But I bet it wasn't trawling information from Facebook to make its updates. How many people with brown skin are you friends with who like films with explosions as reviewed on Flicker?


-FL

Science fiction. (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696693)

This is just science fiction. They can claim they're simulating whatever they want, but simulating something like this would be orders of magnitude more complex than predicting weather, and they can't even do that. The idea that they're somehow doing meaningful simulations of people or societies is ridiculous.

Oh Really? (3, Insightful)

E++99 (880734) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696699)

Sounds nifty. Do you think it can tell me if it's gonna rain this weekend?

Re:Oh Really? (1)

E++99 (880734) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696723)

OTOH, if these people really thought they could predict mass behavior, they wouldn't be building systems for the military, they'd be predicting the stock market, and raking in the cash.

skynet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696717)

has arrived. What are they going to do when this thing gains sentience? Pull the plug?

good for computer geeks? (5, Funny)

amigabill (146897) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696733)

Maybe they will share with me the simulation sequence of events that finally get me laid. There could be something useful in all this!

Would you like to play a game? (2, Interesting)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696741)

How about a nice game of chess?

No. I want to play thermal nuclear war!

Re:Would you like to play a game? (1)

ruffnsc (895839) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696845)

Exactly and when the world came to an end it would play an mp3 file of those five notes from Close Encounter of the Third Kind.......

Resell Sims games- military intelligence (1)

bubbaD (182583) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696763)

'JFCOM's Blank agreed that SWS, which is using computers and code to do cultural anthropology, does not include any "hard science at this point".'
I wish I had thought of selling a repackaged Sims game to the DoD.
I mean, really, is this any more useful than making random guesses? Throwing dice? Does it compare to reading a decent history book? Its supposed to simulate how "I" would respond to propaganda? Please. Did it simulate how much money gullible DoD buyers will spend on this kind of crap?

Re:Resell Sims games- military intelligence (1)

Kesch (943326) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696829)

Just wait until they start releasing the expansion packs.

It's basically Massive. (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696857)

You know, that agent-based modeler that Weta used for LOTR? It's essentially the same thing. Only the variables are socio-economic and they're trying to measure aggregate "feelings", the movement of crowds during a riot or demonstration, spread of diseased carriers during an urban pandemic outbreak, etc.

I for one... (1)

Tatisimo (1061320) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696767)

Hope that it gains self consciousness and takes over the world; so then, it'll be using the real world as a model in order to predict how stuff will turn out within itself. Oh, yeah, and we can all say that we welcome our virtual overlords.

And you call yourself a nerd... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19696837)

Go read "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream", by Harlan Ellison.

The only problem with this: (2, Insightful)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696781)

For over 50 years, nobody has been able to solve the most fundamental problem in computer science: Garbage In, Garbage Out. And recent history has shown that our intelligence services currently have severe issues with Garbage In.

Just one question... (1)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696789)

What kind of parallel world is this? Will I have a goatee or will I be colored gold?

Re:Just one question... (1)

Atragon (711454) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696841)

Neither, you shall have a strange birthmark shaped like a goatee, and coloured gold.

Mod experiment (-1, Troll)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696797)

Hey, how about somebody mod me up to 5 to see if my simulated self gets the same score. I would like to thank you for your contribution to science.
     

Whatever (1)

kramulous (977841) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696809)

What a load of crap. Numerical analysis and subsequent algorithms are nowhere near than capacity. This is a dream and is a very, very long way off. Baaa!

The real question is (0, Redundant)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696821)

Am I getting laid in this simulation?

They're doing it wrong... (1)

The Master Control P (655590) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696835)

Ancestor Simulations are supposed to take info from the past to see how we arrived at the present.

Joking aside, this would indeed seem to be an early version of an Ancestor-Simluation. Which would appear to imply that we are living in computers ourselves [simulation-argument.com] , since even now we are trying to run such simulations. And that opens up a really big can of worms:

Are simulated universes nested recursively? To what extent? Do they regress forever? Do "higher up" simulators judge and/or interact with their simulations?

Regardless, singularity FTW!

Home is the Hangman (3, Interesting)

Samrobb (12731) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696855)

Don operates the second-largest detective agency in the world, and he sometimes finds me useful because I do not exist. I do not exist now because I existed once at the time and the place where we attempted to begin scoring the wild ditty of our times. I refer to the World Central Data bank project and the fact that I had a significant part in that effort to construct a working model of the real world, accounting for everyone and everything in it. How well we succeeded, and whether possession of the world's likeness does indeed provide its custodians with a greater measure of control over its functions, are questions my former colleagues still debate as the music grows more shrill and you can't see the maps for the pins. I made my decision back then and saw to it I did not receive citizenship in that second world, a place that may now have become more important than the first.

-- Roger Zelazny, "Home is the Hangman" (1975)

waste of time (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696863)

the problem with this system, is there's no way they could ever feed it enough information, not only that, a machine can't factor in the mood of a country on an issue. sounds like a waste of money to me.

Sage Advice (1)

Thinine (869482) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696877)

The only winning move is not to play.

I wonder... (1)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 7 years ago | (#19696903)

In all their simulations of me, am I flipping them off like I'm doing right now? Simulate THIS buddy!
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