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Deathbed Confession Says Aliens Were at Roswell

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the here-comes-the-super-copter-here-comes-the-noise-it-makes dept.

Sci-Fi 1267

xnuandax writes "The army's explanation of weather balloons in the Roswell, New Mexico incident 60 years ago has been dealt a serious public relations blow. Late Army Lt. Walter Haut had signed a sealed affidavit prior to his death last year asserting that he had witnessed the wreckage of an egg-shaped craft and its extraterrestrial crew while working at the Roswell Army Air Field. An article at News.com.au reviews how Haut had worked as public relations officer for the Roswell base and was involved in the original weather balloon explanation of events at the time. This recent evidence would seem to confirm speculation that egg-shaped saucers are notoriously difficult to fly safely at low altitude."

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Bombula (4, Insightful)

Bombula (670389) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711529)

As much as I want to believe aliens are among us, it just doesn't make sense that a civilization advanced enough to cross interstellar space would crash in New Mexico. And the chances of aliens being humanoid in appearance are close to zero.

Re:Bombula (2, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711583)

I can't believe the civilization as advanced as ours is full of people who can't even program a computer. It's just odd.

Re:Bombula (3, Insightful)

Smidge204 (605297) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711719)

Perhaps you are overestimating just how advanced our "civilization" is...

It would not be terribly strange, for example, for someone who bolts tires to cars on an assembly line his entire life to not know much about computer programming.

However, it would be kinda strange for an individual or crew capable of navigating a craft at least twenty four trillion miles to not know how to fly a spacecraft well enough to avoid crashing.

Unless they were on the "B" Ark...
=Smidge=

Re:Bombula (5, Funny)

Jace of Fuse! (72042) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711877)

Yes, but it wouldn't be hard to believe our military would shoot down an unidentified flying egg no matter how advanced or rare it's occupants might be.

Not that I'm saying... uhm... yeah.

Re:Bombula (5, Interesting)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711605)

As much as I want to believe aliens are among us, it just doesn't make sense that a civilization advanced enough to cross interstellar space would crash in New Mexico. And the chances of aliens being humanoid in appearance are close to zero.

First off, it may be that the visitors have a limited budget, just like anything we do does. One allocates the risk based on this budget. Even though we may have the money to make or buy the Ultimate Safest Volvo, it does not mean we will.

As far as appearence, here are some possibilities:

1. They are interested in us *because* we look like them.

2. They are us from the future.

3. We are a degerate form of them.

4. The human-like form is somewhat universal after all.

Re:Bombula (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711663)

What the hell are you talking about!

Humans are a result of the natural evolutionary process on this planet. We are "humanoid" because it's an efficient shape to have. I think it's fairly likely that there *are* aliens with a humanoid shape (two legs, arms), given that there *are* planets, out there, similar to earth. Is it so difficult to imagine that given similar conditions, life on a different planets could converge towards similar solutions to the same problem of survival in nature?

Re:Bombula (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711783)

Yes, it IS hard to believe.

Re:Bombula (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711851)

No, we are not humanoid because it is efficient, we are humanoid because that's just the way it turned out, and it wasn't detrimental to breeding.

People ascribe far too much purpose and design to evolution.

Humanoidness (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711669)

You're right about the humanoid appearance. What's more likely...aliens couldn't go get their "shuttle" after it crashed cuz they didn't have the technology and just let us discover it OR a secret prototype aircraft development location crashed some flying egg and the people inside were burned beyond recognition. Then obviously the PR people wouldn't be told about the details of the craft cuz it's classified so they were just told what to say by the government and he assumed they were covering up aliens.

Re:Bombula (0, Troll)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711677)

"As much as I want to believe aliens are among us, it just doesn't make sense that a civilization advanced enough to cross interstellar space would crash in New Mexico. And the chances of aliens being humanoid in appearance are close to zero."

Could your mind be anymore closed?
What you try to pass of as "objective" thinking is actually a stunning demonstration of your complete lack of those very reasoning faculties you wish to try to convince us you possess. You are nothing more than a caged animal, unable to understand that there is more here than just the confines of your cage. And as such, if the door were to one day fly open, you would merely poke your head out yet remain fastly inside, quite content.

Re:Bombula (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711715)

"Any more" should be two words in your sentence, Mr. Reasoning Faculties.

Re:Bombula (-1, Troll)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711903)

Yes, becuz perfkt spelling is importnat onm de internet.
And like, if u cant spel, then it meanz u r stoopid.

Or maybe it just means that I type fast and don't spell check, because I have other things to do with my life than treat an online forum like some fucking elite social club. So go stuff it, spelling nazi, you aand others like you are pathetic.

Re:Bombula (1)

imstanny (722685) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711691)

Actually, whether or not Aliens from outer space look human would be based on evolution. Given similar earth-like conditions, I think it's a higher probability Aliens from outer space would be humanoid than not. I'm no scientist, but it made logical sense when I heard this argument presentedon Discover/TLC/NOVA type program.

Re:Bombula (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711843)

> Given similar earth-like conditions, I think it's a higher probability Aliens from outer space would be humanoid than not.

That makes no sense at all, when at least 99.9% of the species on Earth (a very "earth-like" planet) are not humanoid!

Comparison (1)

gerf (532474) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711891)

We only have to look at the comparison between Vertabrates and Invertabrates to see how evolution favors certain characteristics.

Animals tend to have heads, at the leading end of the body. This head contains sensory organs, often eyes, but not limited to them. Antennae/trunks/feelers are also common, as well as ears (though ears may be elsewhere as well).

Also the head tends to contain a mouth-like orgain for feeding/drinking that often includes teeth or other specialized feeding aparatus. There is also a digestive tract throughout the body and abdomen, leading to a rectum or exit hole. There is also a kind of circulation system to move the necessities of life through the body.

Appendages such as arms or legs are common, as well as wings. They tend to have claws or appendages at the ends for grasping or manipulation.

There may be some things unique to intelligent species, such as a large brain organ, or nimble appendages.

But, then again, their life forms may be so much different as to be unimaginable. Nucular powered instead of solar/chemical powered? Non-Carbon based? Who knows.

Why not? (2, Interesting)

mfh (56) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711721)

A drop of water is the same shape in any atmosphere (relative to temperature and gravity), so who would argue that people wouldn't kinda take the same basic shape anyway? If they crashed, the idea they were of higher intelligence sheds new light on theories of their conquering ways. They came to Earth likely to give us an intergalactic hug and US air force likely shot them down, thinking they were Russians.

Boy were they surprised!

The mystifying result of that accident sheds light on the nature of the universe itself... ... ... We're all stupid!!

Re:Why not? (1, Troll)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711909)

A drop of water is of the same basic shape because of surface tension, and its dominance, at various length scales, over the forces of air resistance and gravitational gradients. There's really only one principle at work there.

Arguing that relatively advanced lifeforms should all be vaguely humanoid because we consider ourselves to be advanced and humanoid is essentially saying that environment has no influence on evolution. It might fly at the Creation Museum, but won't work in the real world.

Re:Bombula (1)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711723)

...it just doesn't make sense that a civilization advanced enough to cross interstellar space would crash in New Mexico.
Yeah, because any civilization that was even one iota more advanced than us would never have an accident, mistake, bad design, equipment failure, pilot error, or unforeseen outcome. In other words, they would be absolutely perfect.

Perhaps it's easy to create a vehicle that can travel the low-gravity vacuum of interstellar space, but to have it also be able to navigate the pressure and gravity of low orbit of a rocky planet can pose a problem. Local eddies of wind and uneven gravity could create a problem for those navigating manually.

Or is it the crashing in New Mexico part that gets you? That any other place for a crash would make more sense, like the mountains?

Re:Bombula (1)

Surt (22457) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711801)

There's little reason to believe that our computer controlled cars will be capable of crashing in 50 years, much less so by the time we can build an interstellar craft capable of carrying crew.

Re:Bombula (1)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711825)

If I were having equipment failure, I'd probably aim for something that gave me a chance at survival - deserts are really flat, unlike the rockies.

Re:Bombula (1)

martin_henry (1032656) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711769)

I think prenty of /.ers have seen the x-files and know that extraterrestrials are supposed to have long arms, and be 3-4 feet tall (see above graphic associated with the /. post).

Re:Bombula (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711775)

You can only assume that the chance of aliens looking somewhat like us if you believe that we got to look like this by accident. Truth is, we got to look like this for various reasons that might be expeced to come about on other planets. For example, we happen to have 4 limbs, why? Probably because 4 is the minimum amout of appendiges necessary to lift a body away from the ground and remain stable. Light sensors(read eyes) would almost alway be at one end of the body,and that part of the body would require a thicker bony mass to protect the advanced circuitry. I could go on but you get the hint

Re:Bombula (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711875)

we happen to have 4 limbs, why? Probably because 4 is the minimum amout of appendiges necessary to lift a body away from the ground and remain stable.
Two is the minimum, witness many birds and dinosaurs. Tripods are more stable, they just aren't easy to make with bilaterally symmetical organisms.

Re:Bombula (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711781)

Not everyone who buys a car is smart enough to design one. Maybe they're just hick aliens crashing their society's equivalent of a mass-market SUV into some boring planet in the middle of nowhere.

Re:Bombula (1)

zaunuz (624853) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711787)

When it comes to their shape being humanoid: Agreed.. our evolution has proven that two legs and two arms is the way to go, but i really doubt aliens have the same evolution as we have.
When it comes to the fact that they crash, well, im sure regardless of intelligence/travel-distance/technology, you're still able to make mistakes, such as spilling your favourite beverage on the dashboard, getting distracted by some alien pr0n DVD, and such. ..IF the aliens exist, that is.

Re:Bombula (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711885)

make mistakes, such as spilling your favourite beverage on the dashboard, getting distracted by some alien pr0n DVD, and such.

Perhaps porn is the real reason the gov't covered it up. If it crashed in Europe, there'd be no coverup :-)
       

Re:Bombula (5, Funny)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711789)

As much as I want to believe aliens are among us, it just doesn't make sense that [they] would crash in New Mexico.

No kidding. New Mexico is soooo, yesterday. Kansas is where anybody who's anybody crashes.

Humanoid form (2, Insightful)

riker1384 (735780) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711809)

I disagree, I think there are significant chances they would be somewhat humanoid if they existed. If they move around on land, they most likely need legs to do that. They might have more, but two is the minimum so they might have two. To make tools they need manipulative parts, and they could end up with two there. They would work better if they're up off the ground and a geared more towards fine control rather than being robust enough to walk on. Biology and evolution seem to favor bilateral symmetry, so they would probably have even numbers of limbs at least.

Also, sensory organs would usually work best when they're high up off the ground and able to turn in different directions, so I wouldn't be suprised if they had something resembling a head.

Re:Bombula (2, Interesting)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711819)

Accounts at the time noted there had been a massive thunder and lightning storm. Maybe they took a really big lightning hit. My guess is that what went down was only a small kind of landing craft, not the big boy. Probably couldn't take a massive lightning strike.

And given the huge number of people deployed to cover many acres looking to retrieve SMALL debris, no weather balloon or Russian nuke detector payload would have justified such effort. And several local people did find and see unusual materials, notably thin yet very strong metallic foil. That was not a technology of the time. Unless we had some form of stiff Mylar, but why aluminize it for a 1947 balloon? And we didn't really have any vacuum-deposition for plastic films technology back then. Remember, plastics technology of the time was limited to Bakelite and other hard chunky plastics, not thin films; the plastics revolution had not yet occurred. Cellophane maybe but nothing better.

And in particular, why would they have rushed to gather a large amount of dry ice, as a local coroner noted occurred, unless there was something likely to chemically or biologically degrade?

As for the chances of aliens being humanoid in appearance close to zero, I refute that simply by pointing to Dick Cheney.

So? (2, Insightful)

sanmarcos (811477) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711537)

It is not like this affidavit is going to change the world or anything. There is absolutely no proof. It just sells newspapers and adds fire to crackpot theories. Even if there was extraterrestrial life, I would not want to know about, or even let any of the crazy people in this world know about it. The reaction would not be good. Humanity is not ready yet.

Re:So? (4, Insightful)

Bombula (670389) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711561)

I disagree. I think humanity is more than ready, and it would do us an enormous amount of good.

Re:So? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711571)

In related news, George Bush has announced his new War on Aliens. He's asking Congress to allocate $400 billion dollars for space weapon technology.

Re:So? (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711685)

Sweet. Time to open a "Space Weapons Research" lab.

interesting (1)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711709)

I read your sig as an explanation of the kind of good it would do us...

Re:So? (2, Insightful)

gravos (912628) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711611)

I couldn't agree more.

Some guy signing a docket on his deathbed is strange behavior that needs explaining, certainly, but the best explanation may well not be that there actually were aliens.

Perhaps the CIA was testing LSD or an experimental new drug at that site at that time to see what it would do to young army officers. In fact that seems a lot more likely to me than aliens crashing in a desert.

Re:So? (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711893)

Perhaps the CIA was testing LSD or an experimental new drug at that site at that time to see what it would do to young army officers.

I doubt LSD would be capable of inducing clear halucinations, believed and remembered until the deathbed. Perhaps you should try it and see what it does, you may find you are aware that your perception has changed and hey, it may even open your mind somewhat...

If this isn't true, it's far more likely to be a hoax.

Re:So? (0, Flamebait)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711807)

We are ready! In fact, it would finally get us to disband NASA and finally start getting a real space program for real uses, not just tests and robots surveyers.
If there is one thing that can make an American get off his fat lazy ass, drop his Doritos and go do something hard and really work for it, it's seeing someone else have something he doesn't.

Joe Sixpack will not abide Xexloi-3 from Alpha Centauri cruising around in a shiny FTL saucer craft while he's stuck with payments on his Earth-bound SUV.

anyone curious... (4, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711835)

why the affadavit, which has been "released", is not printed in any of the articles?

Re:So? (1)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711897)

The reaction would not be good. Humanity is not ready yet.

Alright everyone, back to your basements! Sanmarcos has decided that we're not ready for this information.

I don't suppose... (4, Funny)

wesley96 (934306) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711541)

the craft's name was 'Humpty Dumpty'?

I *KNOW* where the aliens came from! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711755)

Check out this wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] . It has everything that you need to know.

Eggheads! (1)

sg_oneill (159032) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711543)

Last time I threw an egg it didnt fly :(

So yeah. Scientific testing confirms the theory!

Also, isnt this a repost story?

Re:Eggheads! (1)

CriminalNerd (882826) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711739)

1) In science, for a theory to be accepted, the result must be replicated independently elsewhere.
2) You can never prove a theory, you can only support it.

Re:Eggheads! (1)

Ajehals (947354) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711797)

Last time I threw an egg it didnt fly :(

So yeah. Scientific testing confirms the theory!

1) In science, for a theory to be accepted, the result must be replicated independently elsewhere.
2) You can never prove a theory, you can only support it.
In support of his hypothesis, I also threw an egg, it didn't fly. Therefore I find that the theory that eggs don't fly (under the conditions that they were tested... Oh and before they are hatched and turn into birds...) is sound.

Re:Eggheads! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711813)

I, too, tried throwing an egg and watched it not fly. That's two cases that support his theory. Anyone else?

Fantastic News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711545)

This makes Bigfoot real!

Ah! (5, Insightful)

McGiraf (196030) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711547)

He probably died laughing behind his teethes.

Re:Ah! (1)

anagama (611277) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711585)

Or the forger is laughing still.

Mod Parent UP (2, Insightful)

Gabrill (556503) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711625)

At this point, unless his affidavit leads to compelling and PUBLIC evidence, it doesn't matter whether it was a deathbed joke or and earnest confession. It will come to nothing more than a Discovery Channel episode.

Re:Ah! (3, Interesting)

hedgemage (934558) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711665)

I would love to leave behind one last, great practical joke such as this.

Re:Ah! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711705)

He probably died laughing behind his teethes.

Whadda hoot. I'm hoping a federal food inspector will "confess" that "Cocoa Puffs are people!".
     

Re:Ah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711895)

It's possible to be both sincere and wrong.

Imagine a guy that really did think wreckage from a balloon was alien. He might believe in the conspiracy theories as much as the next crackpot.

Egg-shaped craft?!?!?!? (3, Funny)

jzarling (600712) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711549)

THEY WERE FROM ORK

Re:Egg-shaped craft?!?!?!? (1)

Lawrence_Bird (67278) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711657)

nanu nanu

Re:Egg-shaped craft?!?!?!? (1)

T23M (705682) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711799)

I'm torn between nanu-nanu and WAAAAAGH!

The spacecraft has been rumored... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711563)

to have emitted strange sounds....

"Bite my shiny, metal ass."

On the fitting Futurama quotes... (1)

Neitokun (882224) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711635)

"Crazy theories 1, regular theories a billion".

Lacking in skill (1)

ascendant (1116807) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711567)

This recent evidence would seem to confirm speculation that egg-shaped saucers are notoriously difficult to fly safely at low altitude.
Either that or the aliens are just noobs. I mean: how many pro aliens crash their saucers- be they egg-shaped or not?

Re:Lacking in skill (1)

kryten_nl (863119) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711641)

Either that or the aliens are just noobs. I mean: how many pro aliens crash their saucers- be they egg-shaped or not?
--
Do not attribute to malice that which can be easily explained by incompetence.


Has your sig ever been more appropriate?

Re:Lacking in skill (1)

ascendant (1116807) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711733)

Has your sig ever been more appropriate?
Probably when whoever it was I quoted said it?

Re:Lacking in skill (1)

zaunuz (624853) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711751)

How many pro airline pilots crash their plane? not many, but it happends.. im not saying that "OMG, TEH ALIUMS AER HERE", it's just that im sure that IF they are/were/will be here, they're just as likely to splill their coffee on the dashboard or hogging the onboard computer with a request for regular tea (see: Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy). ...nobody's perfect, and if aliens exist, they are as subject to alien/human error as we are.

Re:Lacking in skill (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711829)

They were not "pro" alien pilots. Didn't you RTFA? They were 1.2 meters tall. Everybody knows aliens are really tall and skinny.

These were alien teenagers. We all know teenagers drive like shit. Going to fast, probably trying to pass someone in a blind wormhole.

Highly improbable (4, Insightful)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711577)

I want to believe.....

That being said... the U.S. government is remarkably inept at keeping secrets much less orchestrating a cover up of this size.

Same is true of most conspiracy theories.

Re:Highly improbable (3, Insightful)

jstomel (985001) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711619)

I often hear this kind of reasoning, that the government is too incompetent to keep something like this secret. I find this an odd defense, seeing as if it did happen then the government obviously was not able to keep it secret. Otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.

Re:Highly improbable (3, Funny)

Danny Rathjens (8471) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711847)

"Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."

Re:Highly improbable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711659)

... but Would they tried to warn us about Windows Vista?

+1 Insightful (2, Funny)

coaxial (28297) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711687)

Hear! Hear!

You can't keep anything secret for 60 years.

The most recent vast government conspiracy is of course that GWB et. al. Either orchastrated, or allowed to happen and then embellished, 9/11. Of course, all of this hinges on a grand conspiracy being meticulously carried out by Bush Administration. I'm sorry. But THIS adminstration? The adminstration that brought you Iraq and Katrina? I'm sorry, but we've seen the MO for this adminstration and competence, just isn't it.

Re:+1 Insightful (1)

ccmay (116316) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711805)

The most recent vast government conspiracy is of course that GWB et. al. Either orchastrated, or allowed to happen and then embellished, 9/11. Of course, all of this hinges on a grand conspiracy being meticulously carried out by Bush Administration. I'm sorry. But THIS adminstration? The adminstration that brought you Iraq and Katrina? I'm sorry, but we've seen the MO for this adminstration and competence, just isn't it.

I have to agree. It would have taken months to prepare the WTC for an intentional demolition, and the cooperation of thousands of people from the President to the building's janitors.

Any crackpot "truther" alleging an inside job on the WTC is telling me a lot more about himself than he is about George Bush.

-ccm

Exactly! (2, Insightful)

Tony (765) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711887)

The most recent "vast government conspiracy" has to do with GWB and friends hijacking the US Constitution, lying to the world to lead the US into war with Iraq, providing bid-free billion-dollar contracts to close friends, and declaring the Vice-Presidency is outside the law.

I mean, who could believe *that*?

Re:Highly improbable (1)

dameron (307970) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711707)

I want to believe.....

That being said... the U.S. government is remarkably inept at keeping secrets much less orchestrating a cover up of this size.

Well, we are discussing it on Slashdot.

Re:Highly improbable (1)

wall0159 (881759) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711785)

Well, if you want burglers not to find your jewelery, hide it well - then hide some cheaper jewels/money less well (to be found).

Having said that, I share your skepticism ;-)

LOL HY!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711589)

My name is Jaap Ballspoogen,

and I have a problem!!877@#$%^&45RTFGB!

Not a trustworthy source (5, Informative)

evildogeye (106313) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711601)

He was the founder of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell, NM. I think that makes it necessary to take his death bed statement with a grain of salt.

Re:Not a trustworthy source (0, Troll)

ichigo 2.0 (900288) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711693)

Why?

Re:Not a trustworthy source (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711757)

I'd say I'd take his death bed statement with a salt mine not a grain of salt. Some death bed statements have fueled both sides. Jesse Marselles has been given as proof but if you listen to it and add the information about how Mogal balloons where constructed it also supports the Mogal theory. Ultimately why would a space craft be built out material resembling tin foil. Nothing larger than sticks and thicker than tin foil were found at the first site and there's serious doubt if there was a second site. Most of the witnesses are suspect, at least the ones with the most dramatic stories. Possible, Maybe. Evidence, zero.

Re:Not a trustworthy source (5, Funny)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711853)

"Ultimately why would a space craft be built out material resembling tin foil. "

Because it's powered by hats?

Hardly a blow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711603)

It's hardly a blow. It could be just a BS story that he made up. Maybe he went to his grave laughing at the thought of people taking his sealed "story" seriously. Just look at out of control L. Ron Hubbard's little joke has become. Of course, there's no evidence, just his statement.

You think that's funny? (1, Funny)

Tony (765) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711859)

Just look at out of control L. Ron Hubbard's little joke has become. Of course, there's no evidence, just his statement.

Even better, just look at what happened with that Jesus dude's little practical joke.

"'Son of God.' I slay me!"

huh? (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711623)

" This recent evidence would seem to confirm speculation that egg-shaped saucers are notoriously difficult to fly safely at low altitude."

Mork from Ork?

Shazbot, na-nu na-nu

Re:huh? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711773)

[egg-shaped saucers] Mork from Ork?

Last heard before the crash: Shhhaaaaazzzzzzbooooo [CRUNCH!]
       

An interesting story ... (1)

More_Cowbell (957742) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711639)

But really, what will an affidavit from a dead dude prove? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the little green guys as much as the next guy. But will this spur the Air Force to open Area 51 up to visitors?

No? Well, bummer then because this becomes another in the long history of anecdotes.

Queue all the people saying he only waited until after he died so no one could rebut his story.

Maybe he just has a wicked sense of humor (2, Interesting)

Don'tTreadOnMe (686201) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711647)

You gotta admit, a deathbed confession deisgned to perpeutate a myth would be pretty funny. I'd be laughing all the way to the mortuary, if it were me...

Re:Maybe he just has a wicked sense of humor (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711833)

I'd be laughing all the way to the mortuary, if it were me...

And I'd be really creeped out if I were the coroner...

follow the money or the little green men .. (5, Insightful)

abes (82351) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711681)

This was posted on digg, and as someone pointed out, Haut also ran a UFO museum. So .. yeah .. no ulterior motives ..

A simple google search gives one of many such links:

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/07-20-95/cover.htm [tucsonweekly.com]

Not to say that's the only reason he did that .. who knows. It just a bit odd. Other military people have come forward, including a high ranking general (who released a book). The general claimed all our current technology came from UFOs. Such as the night-vision goggles. This is a fairly outrageous claim even for someone with a rudimentary understanding of electronics.

It's not that I think aliens are impossible. I just am highly suspicious that they'd sneak about so much. Or that our government could keep anything a secret for so long. And crackpots coming out with books on UFOs does not count as the leaks.

Re:follow the money or the little green men .. (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711763)

The general claimed all our current technology came from UFOs. Such as the night-vision goggles.
Well, that would explain the hair - Einstein [about-night-vision.com] was really an alien!

Yeah, the makes it the guaranteed truth (1)

davmoo (63521) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711703)

This eliminates all debate, since we all know that old people who are in the process of dying never hallucinate, and they always remember perfectly something that happened 60 years before. I hope this "confession" is written on toilet paper, because at least then it would have a useful purpose. Obviously its another slow news day.

I agree with what other posters have said. I want to believe aliens exist. If nothing else, I want to see how the major religions deal with it when it is conclusively proven that we are not the only life in the universe. But our government has shown time and time again it couldn't keep a secret if it were placed in a hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar on Funk & Wagnall's porch. There is no way they could keep a secret of this magnitude and cover it up for 60 years.

Re:Yeah, the makes it the guaranteed truth (1)

dameron (307970) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711815)

There is no way they could keep a secret of this magnitude and cover it up for 60 years.

Thus the > 1,000,000 results google returns for "roswell ufo".

It hasn't been a secret (1)

Tony (765) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711845)

There is no way they could keep a secret of this magnitude and cover it up for 60 years.

That's what they *want* you to believe, man. See, it hasn't been a secret, has it? People have *known for years* there was a spacecraft accident near Roswell. But the government has spent so much time putting out so much counter- and counter-counter propaganda, nobody can see the truth through the lies.

That's how the government keeps secrets. *It doesn't.* It puts the truth out there with a bunch of *other* crackpot theories, so that it seems like there's no real conspiracy. Like, "Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK," and "Terrorists flew planes into the twin towers," (actually, this one is true, but *it's not the terrorists they claimed!*), or "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction aimed at some three-year-old girl in New York City," or, "Fluoridation is good for you," or "Santa-- Satan. See the similarity?"

It's all about providing the truth alongside a bunch of crazier-sounding lies, and then making the "official" explanation seem more plausible. It's just that simple.

Oh, and those aliens looked just like Elvis.

Alternate Headline: (4, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711717)

Dying Man Has Perverse Sense of Humor

Old News (2, Funny)

Stanislav_J (947290) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711729)

I thought we had already established that it was the Ferengi [wikipedia.org] ?

Aliens, ghosts, and gods never leave evidence ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711767)

With no evidence they exist, to call them 'rare' is to dramatically overstate the matter. On the other hand, people that jump to wild and irrational conclusions are common as dirt. Total nut-jobs are not exactly uncommon. I think I'll have to go with the numbers on this one.

Have to say it... (1)

SigIO (139237) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711779)

"All your Eggs are belong to us."

There...now no one else can post it.

end of all current religion, beginning of a new on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19711803)

I for one, hope that we don't discover advanced aliens- sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from 'God'/magic.

Say for instance God himself decided to pop in, would we think he was an alien? Or the other way around, an alien pops in, would we think he is God?

one i made earlyer (1)

AchiestDragon (971685) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711817)

wow

well if true then we can make a real space ship from pastic foil , selotape and balsa wood
and some weather monitoring kit for navigation i expect

given that it may crash is another point , but its got to be cheaper than a shuttle

Hearsay evidence (1)

OHdog (1069248) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711821)

The Uncle of a co-worker was employed by the Army-AirForce in Ft Worth. He told DeeDee he saw the material from Roswell and it was not a weather balloon. He didn't know what it was but his opinion was the material was not American and maybe not terrestrial.

Speculated Where??? (5, Funny)

DumbSwede (521261) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711837)

"This recent evidence would seem to confirm speculation that egg-shaped saucers are notoriously difficult to fly safely at low altitude."

I'm curious just where this speculation was forwarded. Is there some UFO magazine with articles like "Egg Shape Saucers -- How Easy to Fly" or "Egg shaped versus conventional Plate shaped, which Flying Saucer is right for your intergalactic traveling needs?" or better yet is Consumer Reports planning a Fly Saucer Safety issue? "Flying Saucer Roll Over Crash Test Results -- Egg Shaped Models perform poorly"

obligatory (1)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711871)

...and its extraterrestrial crew while working at the Roswell Army Air Field.

And the extraterrestrial's name was Zoidberg!!!!!

joking aside (1)

phrostie (121428) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711901)

all joking aside, i would have been more interested to read the acctual document than a reporters version of it.

as for the Egg, it sounds more like an escape pod than a flying saucer, but i guess we'll never know.

ros (1)

ralph1 (900228) | more than 7 years ago | (#19711907)

well any darn fool knows that.
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