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Free the iPhone from AT&T

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the well-it-is-the-fourth-of-july dept.

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Acererak was one of several readers who noted that DVD Jon has released information on unbricking an iPhone. You sacrifice all cel phone functionality of course, but you have an iPDA that will work on your WiFi. Currently the hack is windows only but it doesn't look very complicated.

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Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (5, Insightful)

HouseArrest420 (1105077) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742549)

Why would you pay that much money for a PDA, when you can get other devies whose only purpose it to be a PDA for less?

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (5, Funny)

Simon (S2) (600188) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742597)

hy would you pay that much money for a PDA, when you can get other devies whose only purpose it to be a PDA for less?
Because of the "I" prefix.

USA: The Ideal Nation ! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742681)

Read how at globaltics.net [globaltics.net] .

Your sig (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742915)

homo?

Re:Your sig (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743145)

Well, he does have an interest in Apple products...

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (3, Insightful)

thebrieze (1102809) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742615)

Cool factor, User Interface, Wifi, Almost full featured browser, Full screen, Video player.

Granted its still an expensive, but there isn't another device that does all of the above with quite as nice a user interface, and which has quite as much cool factor.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742775)

Tapwave Zodiac :)

Cool factor > Still looks cool to this day!

User interface > Yup its pretty nice touch screen interface

Wifi > With an SDIO card yeah

Almost full featured browser > yup got that too

Full screen > tis a pretty big screen

Video player > hardware mpeg4 decoder built in :D

plus it plays emulators and has tonnes of over features :)

f*ck the iphone get a Zodiac off ebay now!

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743105)

User interface > Yup its pretty nice touch screen interface

But is it multi-touch?

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (4, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742829)

Cool factor, User Interface, Wifi, Almost full featured browser, Full screen, Video player.

I think the phrase you are looking for is "prosthetic eNis".

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (3, Funny)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743029)

iPeen

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (1)

canUbeleiveIT (787307) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743343)

Thanks a lot...I just snorted cereal milk through my nose.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (1)

newr00tic (471568) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743095)

Agreed, nice points.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (3, Insightful)

appleguru (1030562) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742623)

It's not just a PDA. It's a SWEET solid state iPod... In fact, it;s currently the only flash based iPod that can play videos; and it has a kickass screen and touch interface to boot... the iPhone is apple's best ipod to date. While the price may seem high, there is clearly a demand for an iPhone-like iPod, and I imagine one at a lower price point than the iPhone will be released soon. Time will tell if the new ipod has any connectivity features built in (wifi, bluetooth, etc), but I hope so!

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (-1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743035)

It may well be an iPod - but the one that needs 2 year contract with AT&T!! Fuck your Sweet ipod then.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (5, Funny)

Bemopolis (698691) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743325)

YEAH! Someone should find a way of making the iPhone work without having to sign a 2-year contract with AT&T. Even if they have to sacrifice the cellphone functionality. I sure hope that when someone does that it becomes a story on SLashdot. Of course then, I'd probably have to respond to someone too dense to Read The Fucking Title.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (1)

nogginthenog (582552) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743299)

You just described every PDA released in the past 5 years.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (1)

BigFoot48 (726201) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743365)

Man I hate those tube models!

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (2, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742639)

Because it is an iPhone. If you have one, you are hip and cool. You are important and beautiful. If you don't, you are a loser. Basically it is like middle school but with more money.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (2, Insightful)

Otter (3800) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743167)

Because the way you get to be "DVD Jon" is by bragging about trivial "hacks" to high-profile Apple hardware and services.

OK, you get to be him by taking credit for someone else's DVD player hack. But you stay "DVD Jon" with noisy, pointless attacks on Apple gear.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (1)

dudeX (78272) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743371)

Reminds of an early 90's SNL fake commercial depicting a kid playing with a Macintosh, showing off the things he printed out on his LaserWriter, with the end slogan was "Apple Computer: The Power to Crush Other Kids"

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (0)

highwaytohell (621667) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742657)

so you can be the cool Mac dude being all aloof and shit while us weenies use our Windows Mobile Devices? Jeez, havent you learnt anything yet. You have to forsake functionality to be cool! Being cool is what matters, man!

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (-1, Troll)

1zenerdiode (777004) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742671)

Why would you pay that much money for a PDA, when you can get other devies whose only purpose it to be a PDA for less?

Simple! So you can feel morally superior to others who are tragically less hip than you are. Your sweatshop-produced microelectronic device is better for society than theirs! Nobody even has to know that the phone doesn't work nor that in reality your iPhone now has less utility than a cell-phone-shaped bubble gum dispenser.

Besides, you can't pinch your fingers on a standard PDA. What could be worse than that?

the number 1 reason..... (0, Flamebait)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742759)

Is that the world is full of idiots. Anyone dumb enough to pay $500.00 for a glorified ipod/cell phone, especially version 1.0 is an idiot. Everyone knows that version 2.0 is around the corner. I think this is more of the "keep up with the Jones's" than anything else. If/when I see someone flash one of those things in my face, I'll just laugh and say, so you are one of the 525,000 idiots that bought an overpriced ipod. Steve Jobs is laughing all the way to the bank.

Re:Yeah make it worthless, then I can afford one!! (5, Funny)

niceone (992278) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742771)

Well, because you get to have a cool iPhone.

This mod has a couple more advantages for the slashdot crowd:

1) you won't have to talk to people.
2) it makes it harder for 'them' to track you

Screw the phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742563)

Give me the chance to buy the device as the next-gen iPod!

HEY (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742591)

But does it run Linux??!?!?!

Re:HEY (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742733)

No - it runs BSD (Mac OS X).

DVD Jon is really asking to be sued again (1)

hoyeru (1116923) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742609)

Hopefully Apple will do so and we will have another round of lols.

Re:DVD Jon is really asking to be sued again (1)

linuxci (3530) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742799)

Why would Apple care if these devices aren't being subsidised, they still get their sale. If anyone is to sue it'd be AT&T.

On its own this development will only cater for those who are not interested in the phone component, but if he can find a way to unlock it then it'll be a lot more useful.

Apple cares because they get a slice of the... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742877)

monthly fees from AT&T for all subscribers on the iPhone plans.

That's one of the many reasons Verizon told Apple to go pound sand.

Re:DVD Jon is really asking to be sued again (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742897)

If it happens widely AT&T will either drop it entirely or start selling it at its full price. At the moment they make a loss every time someone does this. If it's half a dozen slashdotters wanting to turn their new phone into an overpriced 4GB ipod then that's not going to affect much. If a full hack comes out and thousands of people do it... then expect AT&T to react.

Re:DVD Jon is really asking to be sued again (3, Informative)

yellowcord (607995) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743043)

Who's taking a loss? Apparently the mark-up on the 8 GB version is 55% [reuters.com] .

Why "Of course"? (3, Interesting)

l-ascorbic (200822) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742637)

Why is it assumed that phone functionality must be sacrificed? Why can't another SIM be used?

Re:Why "Of course"? (-1, Redundant)

babbling (952366) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742667)

The iPhone doesn't use SIM cards. You have to "activate it" via iTunes.

Re:Why "Of course"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742689)

Then why does it have a pop-out SIM card slot?

Re:Why "Of course"? (1)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742691)

The iPhone doesn't use SIM cards. You have to "activate it" via iTunes.

It has a sim card, but it's a weird one.

Re:Why "Of course"? (2, Informative)

linuxci (3530) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742821)

The iPhone doesn't use SIM cards. You have to "activate it" via iTunes.

It has a sim card, but it's a weird one.
No it's a standard SIM card. The phone is just locked so it can't accept other SIMs. Once you have your AT&T account setup you should be able to use your iPhone SIM is any unlocked GSM phone.

Re:Why "Of course"? (1)

dwater (72834) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743021)

> so it can't accept other SIMs ...and by 'accept' you mean that they will physically fit, but the phone won't work.

I wonder what would happen if my old AT&T SIM card, from my cancelled contract a few years ago, is put into it...perhaps I could sell it to some iPhone owner :)

Re:Why "Of course"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742765)

Excuse a naive question from a foreigner, but is that legal in the US? Locking a device to vendor that way is a blatant anti-competitive maneuver, isn't it?

Re:Why "Of course"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742931)

Locking a device to vendor that way is a blatant anti-competitive maneuver, isn't it?

Anti-competitive? Perhaps. But there are certainly many competitors in the cell phone market, both for phones and service.

Illegal? Not blatantly. It's a common practice in the US to sell a locked cell phone at a discount with a one or two year service contract. If you want an unlocked cell phone you usually just have to pay more.

Of course, the iPhone is unique that you can only buy it locked to AT&T, but I don't that makes it illegal per se. Someone would have to file a lawsuit and a judge would have to decide.

Re:Why "Of course"? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743333)

Well, I hope US follow the EU here, but then, I also hope to get a girlfriend. Not gonna happen.

Re:Why "Of course"? (5, Interesting)

jonwil (467024) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742693)

The iPhone almost certainly contains a network lock (where it will refuse to talk to any SIM card that isn't from AT&T)

The interesting question would be if you could use any AT&T SIM card in the iPhone after activating it with this hack (or if not whether the hack could be changed so that becomes possible). If so, this allows you to completely avoid the "lock-in contract" by obtaining whatever the "I already have a suitable phone and I just want an AT&T SIM card with no lock in contract" plan is.

Re:Why "Of course"? (4, Insightful)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743249)

I personally think it is fair that a telco wants you to sign up for a 2 year contract when they give you a subsidized phone, especially when they want to give you an expensive phone at (what appears to be) a bargain.

What I think is a little unfair is paying full price for the device and being locked in for 2 years to a company that appears is not subsidizing the phone. AT&T must have wanted the lock-in for them to justify spending money on the extra services the iPhone offers such as video mail, which they would have made money on anyway if they were first to market or offered the best service.

In a truly competitive market the iphone would be free to connect to any telco (and because the phone meets FCC requirements they should not legally be allowed to turn the customer away). Problem is, the Telco's are too accustomed to locking down their services and features and couldn't bear the customer having a choice.

IMHO of course.

Right (5, Funny)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742647)

So "unbricking" the iPhone means losing cell phone ability. What kind of unbricking this is?

How about a guide how to free my PC from Internet security vulnerabilities. By blowing up my modem with a hand grenade.

Re:Right (4, Informative)

arivanov (12034) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742701)

If I understand the idea correctly this allows you to use it without activating it and having a mandatory contract. This does not remove the SIM lock though. If a hack comes out to unlock the SIM lock these two will make a total unlock possible. Anything else aside, this allows you to use the iPhone for something without registering for 2 years contract while you are waiting for the second hack.

The latter is only a matter of time, after all you do not expect a device with a general purpose OS where everything runs as root to last long, do you?

Re:Right (2, Funny)

linuxci (3530) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742837)

The latter is only a matter of time, after all you do not expect a device with a general purpose OS where everything runs as root to last long, do you?
What's Windows got to do with this? :)

Seriously, what makes you think everything runs as root on the iPhone?

Re:Right (1, Insightful)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742943)

Indeed, especially since iPhone has two pre-set-up accounts, "root" and "mobile" [slashdot.org] .

Re:Right (0, Offtopic)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743225)

Wow, linking to a Slashdot story from yesterday is "insightful" now. Perhaps "informative", but "insightful"?

Re:Right (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743197)

At least one of the tech sites (forgot which one, see the iPhone coverage on the Reg, links from there), posted that Safari runs as root based on the UID in memorydumps caused by nuking it the recent Safary vulns. Same for a couple of othr apps which they have managed to coredump. It is only a matter until one of them gets exploited.

Right-Nose wars. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742711)

It's called, cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. It's rather common with these, "I'm gonna git The Man" battles.

Re:Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742777)

Dr. Nick: "Inflammable means flammable? What a country."

Re:Right (1)

da5idnetlimit.com (410908) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743347)

"By blowing up my modem with a hand grenade"

I hereby defy you in a game of Worms ! you seem to be in the proper mindframe 8)

His name isn't rocket science (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742669)

He has a real name and it isn't difficult either. Let's all say it, "Jon Lech Johansen." There, wasn't that easy?

tag: !unbricking unlocking (-1, Offtopic)

un1xl0ser (575642) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742697)

Thanks. Maybe /. editors will understand common hardware hacking terminology someday. We can only hope.

Re:tag: !unbricking unlocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742741)

Unlocking would be misleading, as that could mean he's broken the SIM lock.

Re:tag: !unbricking unlocking (1)

un1xl0ser (575642) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742909)

Something else then. Someone gathered the activation codes. Either way, not unbricking.

The iPod video in like 3 months, $399 (1)

gig (78408) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742719)

On the day of the iPhone launch Steve Jobs confirmed that OS X is also in "some iPods we've been working on."

> there are people who want an iPhone to use it as an iPod and WiFi device without having to enter into a 2-year AT&T contract).

Just wait a few months and get a bug-fixed OS X in an iPod video with the same screen and Wi-Fi and Safari and 100 GB disk.

Re:The iPod video in like 3 months, $399 (1)

kabz (770151) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742863)

Or you could read one of the many iPhone articles available on the net, and simply 'fail the credit check' with ATT and go month to month on the go phone plan.

The *really* scary thing is that if there's just the *tiniest* hint that an iPod without a cell phone is lame, then everyone is going to want an iPhone, or whatever v2.0 looks like. iPhone totally *rocks*, even the battery life is great.

Re:The iPod video in like 3 months, $399 (1)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743401)

"...and simply 'fail the credit check' with ATT and go month to month on the go phone plan."

I still want, no need, the ability to connect to another network. I travel enough to need the ability to put a SIM card in for the country I'm in at the time. So i'd love to use your technique to get my hands on the phone, but will certainly need the (inevitable) hack to use another SIM.

I've been looking for a device that has wi-fi web, phone, and all the features the iPhone offers (including cool factor) but gives me freedom. Closest I can get is the Nokia n95 or the open-Moko. Am still looking though.

Unlocking a Cell Phone is LEGAL (5, Informative)

MCSEBear (907831) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742727)

From Ars Technia -- November 24, 2006

The newest list of exemptions to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is out, and the Register of Copyrights is recommending six exemptions this time around. If you've been hankering for the legal authority to remove Sony's rootkit or to unlock your cell phone, then this will be big news. If you were hoping for the ability to make backup copies of your legally purchased DVDs, you're (still) out of luck.

Exemptions are allowed for 1) the educational library of a university's media studies department, in order to watch film clips in class; 2) using computer software that requires the original disks or hardware in order to run; 3) dongle-protected computer programs, if the the dongle no longer functions and a replacement cannot be found; 4) protected e-books, in order to use screen-reader software; 5) cell phone firmware that ties a phone to a specific wireless network; and 6) DRM software included on audio CDs, but only when such software creates security vulnerabilities on personal computers.
You are allowed to unlock your cell phone no matter what Apple or AT&T think about it. They can't sue DVD Jon for breaking their bullshit attempts to control hardware that they have sold. The purchaser can do what they want with their own phone.

Whole article is at: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061124-8280 .html [arstechnica.com]

Mod parent up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742917)

Because we ACs don't get points to award.

Re:Mod parent up! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743165)

Sign up, or shut up.

Re:Unlocking a Cell Phone is LEGAL (1)

catxk (1086945) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743205)

That makes me wonder how it can even be legal to lock a phone in such a manner. To make an effort to limit consumer freedom never sounded right, and in the light of your post, it sounds like syntax error.

Re:Unlocking a Cell Phone is LEGAL (4, Insightful)

MCSEBear (907831) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743353)

It's just a function of the fact that telecoms have buckets full of money and congress-persons like buckets full of money.

You notice that congress never said telecoms can't reduce consumer choice by locking cell phones. Instead, the head of the copyright office decided to make an exemption to the DMCA to cover unlocking cell phones. Perhaps the telecoms forgot to offer the head of the copyright office enough buckets full of money. Heck, I suppose it's even possible that this official is honest and has the consumers best interests in mind.

Sadly, the US totally lacks a political party that is willing to protect consumers when there is the possibility of gaining access to said buckets full of money. There was a lot of talk about network neutrality from the Democrats before they took control of congress. Now that they are in power and those buckets full of money are in the offing, they seem to have suddenly shut the fuck up about the importance of network neutrality. Sigh. Libertarians, anyone?

Worst.Article.Evar!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742735)

Thanks Taco...for keeping the "high standards" we are all accustomed to.

--
Jaap van Ballspoogen

Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742753)

In order to justify his name he should do Blue Ray and HD DVD stuff. Does he have anything against Apple Computer and/or Steve Jobs?

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (1)

hotdiggitydawg (881316) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742839)

The guy is a modern-day Robin Hood. You still have to respect his "stick it to The Man" talents, regardless of what he calls himself or who is today's choice for "Sherriff of Nottingham"...

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (2, Funny)

drifterusa (987504) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743331)

Yes, taking from the evil technology innovators and giving to the impoverished geeks who can't survive without the latest gizmo delivered on their terms. Robin Hood my ass!

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (5, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742867)

He earned his name long ago. He has no need to 'justify' himself to anyone, and he certainly doesn't owe us anything. He can do whatever he damned well pleases, and you should be thankful for anything that happens to help you, instead of disrespecting him for the stuff that doesn't.

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (5, Funny)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743093)

He earned his name long ago. He has no need to 'justify' himself to anyone, and he certainly doesn't owe us anything. He can do whatever he damned well pleases, and you should be thankful for anything that happens to help you, instead of disrespecting him for the stuff that doesn't.

Showing your gratitude means you're weak. You gotta hate things. Hate Windows, hate Oracle, hate IBM, hate Intel, hate RIAA, hate Exxon. Hate the government, hate DVD Jon. Hate some guy who made a million by selling pixels on his home page and so on.

It's a survival technique. Now, of course, I kinda like Linux. I contributed a brightness adjustment to the "paste" icon in the KDE file manager, so by extension this puts me in the same group with the guys who created the Linux kernel.

But I'm not gonna tell you I like Linux. I'll just instead tell you you're an idiot for not using Linux, otherwise it means I'm weak.

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (1)

neonmonk (467567) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743369)

I hate you cause I'm alpha.

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742951)

Does he have anything against Apple Computer and/or Steve Jobs?

What red-blooded Earthican doesn't?

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743031)

COCKSUCKER

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (0)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743175)

Does he have anything against Apple Computer and/or Steve Jobs?
He is basically interested in breaking the 'lock' of 'locked' devices.

If he is focusing on Apple, it may be because Apple and Steve Wonder have released products after products which are completely locked in with them or some other entity like AT&T?? You know... just may be?

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (5, Funny)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743183)

In order to justify his name he should do Blue Ray and HD DVD stuff.

Totally agreed. And he better do it quick, I'm on the phone talking with the head of the Name Giving Commission, and they're seriously considering taking his name back.

Re:Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple? (2, Insightful)

Ant P. (974313) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743275)

Why is DVD Jon focused on Apple?

Because HD formats aren't worth anyone's attention.

People will actually do this (-1, Troll)

DogDude (805747) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742763)

From the reviews I've been reading, the iPhone's "phone" functionality is pretty much worthless anyway. Even though each sucker [customer] paid a few thousand for what is apparently the worst cell phone service on the market, I'm sure we'll see people just getting rid of it, and instead having a $2000+ iPod. It's twisted, but I'll bet money that it'll be widespread.

Re:People will actually do this (1)

Stu Charlton (1311) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742957)

Voice quality is quite good in the phone itself. The quality of network varies depending on your location. I've been in the Washington D.C. area and it was clear. In Toronto, roaming with Rogers has also been great.

I doubt that most will cancel their service.

Re:People will actually do this (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743117)

We don't even have their "service" here, not till 2012.

Unlock?? (4, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742823)

I am much more looking forward to unlocking the iPhone so you can use it with any GSM card - including those up here in the great white north.

Re:Unlock?? (2, Insightful)

SpinyNorman (33776) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742929)

Even if that becomes possible, I think you'd lose the "Visual Voicemail" feature (email-like random access to voicemail messages) since they said at the launch that it required AT&T back end development, and minimally has to be closely tied to the AT&T way of retrieving voice mail messages.

Or... (5, Informative)

dwightk (415372) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742853)

Re:Or... Not (1)

nbritton (823086) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743295)

You forgot step 2... Pay $200 to get out of the contract you signed with AT&T.

Wait.... (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742903)

You're saying people are already bricking their iPhones?

Re:Wait.... (1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743219)

Yes. Activation = Bricking.

Its funny some of the hippies were pissed off when it took them 24 to 36 hrs in queue for, er, bricking their phone.

A better idea (1)

ThisIsWhyImHot (1121637) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742923)

Couldn't you just buy the iPhone and not activate it? Now all you slashdotters will be able to get girls phone numbers and have an excuse when you don't call them!

Re:A better idea (3, Informative)

Magneon (1067470) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743003)

You can't use it for anything at all without activating it... ...without this hack.

Re:A better idea (1)

mst (30456) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743109)

Getting a girl's phone number? This is Slashdot, remember!

Well (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742955)

I'm interested in a hack that allows tunring my nano into a phone. Let me know when this happens...

Fuck DVD Jon (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19742971)

This guy is a Windows shithead who isn't doing anybody a favor with his stupid cracks. Why don't you focus on Microsoft, asshole?

Glass, total pwnag3

Anyone care to unbrick the server? (1)

peektwice (726616) | more than 7 years ago | (#19742985)

Looks like nanocr.eu is groaning under the ./ effect.

iPhone - phone - introducing the "i" (1)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743049)

Genius, so you take a phone and "unlock it" thus meaning it is no longer a phone.

And this "Begs the Question" (0)

JamesP (688957) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743101)

Unlocking the iPhone will become trivial in the following weeks. However, what to do with the 2 year contract you signed at the time you bought it???

Re:And this "Begs the Question" (2, Insightful)

Yosho (135835) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743217)

However, what to do with the 2 year contract you signed at the time you bought it???

You don't sign a contract at the time you buy it. Have you been ignoring all of the previous iPhone discussions?

iPhone shuffle (3, Funny)

Elsapotk421 (1097205) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743107)

I'll take one!

YOU FAIL It (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743137)

voip (5, Interesting)

metroplex (883298) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743139)

would a voip webapp be feasible? then the iphone would be pretty cool even whitout gsm functionality

DVDJon needs to get a life... (-1, Troll)

jpellino (202698) | more than 7 years ago | (#19743273)

"What do you want to be when you grow up, Jonny?"
"I want to piss people off by throwing a big ugly monkey wrench into their life's work."
"Hmm... well there's the IRS, Jews for Jesus, or, well, there's this third thing you could try, but it would never work..."

Stupid tags (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19743373)

Why is this tagged "hardhack" when the summary plainly says that it's not complicated?
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